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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 4:25pm On Jul 17, 2018
Most people slandering Micheal Owen are conc English haters am not surprised.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:25pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
Amala comes again.

when it's KDB vs Hazard, you say no need for skills just one time pass and finish

Now Owen could run and finish, you say he no do skills. Which skills did Mbappe even do, apart from kick and follow in this world cup?

With Mbappe he has 10 CL goals , 4 world cup goals before his 20th birthday that is not just skill but finishing as well

10 world cup goals is more than Hazard has in his entire CL career and 1 behind the entire Michael Owen CL career

Not this world cup alone, watch Mbappes collection and see the skills he used to displace defenders unlike Owen whose only skill was run
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:26pm On Jul 17, 2018
Elnino4ladies:
Most people slandering Micheal Owen are conc English haters am not surprised.

Including Ibime who supported England at the world cup.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 4:28pm On Jul 17, 2018
To me Mbappe is an Owen level striker for now. Definitely nowhere near Igwe, and comparisons to Fat Ronaldo ar just asinine.

Have a look at these videos and it's like watching the same player. Some of the Mbappe goals are so similar to Owen's sef, that it's like watching a replay


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsP4CN_fQaM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW96pH9r8Ug

Both players were speed merchants with good finishing.

El Fenomeno was just something else


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0_ZAhwKRh8


Compare and contrast the quality of the first two videos to this one.

Abeg Mbappe has his level jare. Make una bring that overhype come this side...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 4:29pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:

Including Ibime who supported England at the world cup.

Ibime has natural hatred for some certain players, maybe Owen is one of them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 4:35pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
How do they decorate you when Ronaldo and Messi have taken all the accolades. Even the center forwards what have tjey won?
Did you realise if Rooney was developed as a striker, he would be going toe to toe with the likes of Ibra, Suarez, Costa and Rvp who were known as worldclass striker? In the long run, Lukaku may even eclipse him at the end of the day.

What do we call Muller and Rooney? Do we call them strikers in the ranks of great strikers such as Ibra, Rvp, Falcao, Cavani, Suarez? Or great forwards in the rank of Messi, Ronaldo, Arjen Robben? None.

Both were jack of all trades and mastered nothing in the end. Muller is even clueless in the striker role today eventhough he had the skillset to develop as one but he failed to do that so early in his career and lost that great chance. Same happened to Rooney. Both became nothing special once they lost little speed.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 4:38pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Mbappe was on the field at everytime, Owen wasnt good enough to make it onto the field. Maybe you can say Walcott plays like Owen, Not Mbappe. Mbappe can from a standing position dribble a defender, Owen will rather push the ball on the run to beat the defender.

Balon dor was the very inferior award in Owens time which Shevchenko, Nedved and those who couldnt make the WPOTY were consoled with

It will be the type of awards Ribery Zlatan, David Silva will be winning nowadays while the Messi Ronaldo Neymar vie for the WPOTY

I have posted Mbappe and Owens collection.

Their games are exactly the same. Kick and follow up with pace.

You guys and your overhype.

I've said it before that Mbappe isn't even better than Rashford. If not for an unfortunate encounter with the grim reaper of football talent, Rashford should rightfully be eclipsing Mbappe.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:40pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
To me Mbappe is an Owen level striker for now. Definitely nowhere near Igwe, and comparisons to Fat Ronaldo ar just asinine.

Have a look at these videos and it's like watching the same player. Some of the Mbappe goals are so similar to Owen's sef, that it's like watching a replay

Both players were speed merchants with good finishing.

El Fenomeno was just something else

Compare and contrast the quality of the first two videos to this one.

Abeg Mbappe has his level jare. Make una bring that overhype come this side...

Most of those Owens highlight were one touch finishing or outpacing the last defender

Mbappe is nowhere close to Ronaldo, but he is nowhere as low as Owen, He can do much more than Owen and not as much as Ronaldo

Take away the regular English hype, Owen is just another runner who can finish, There are many moves Mbappe can do to beat his defender and create chances that Owen can never do
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:41pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
I have posted Mbappe and Owens collection.
Their games are exactly the same. Kick and follow up with pace.
You guys and your overhype.
I've said it before that Mbappe isn't even better than Rashford. If not for an unfortunate encounter with the grim reaper of football talent, Rashford should rightfully be eclipsing Mbappe.

They have been looking for the one who made that comment, Mbappe and Rashford. KIKIKIKIKI

I dont even know how to respond
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 4:44pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
Ol boy I have zero care for preseason. All I know is Mbappe would never drop 3 goals and 8 assists even on crutches, even if he was playing with Monaco Feminine. Abeg you need to dead this depleted narrative because if Monaco relied on Thomas Lemar they would not sniff the Champions League. Enuff with the excuses

Lemme repeat! You're dragging a 19yo for a 21 goal 11 assist season yet praising a 22 yo for a 3 goal 8 assist season. If that's not you tacitly admitting Mbappe's greatness then I don't know what is

Yet went on to stink up the World Cup, can you bet on Sterling reproducing last season? As for Walcott lol


Abeggi its one thing to hoof a ball forward and another for the striker to do something with it. The irony is Mbappe's goals vs Argentina had nothing to do with Pogba and you can say that for almost every goal France scored at the World Cup. Stop dropping yarns that won't stand up to scrutiny
But same Mbappe got benched for a fortified Psg side and with the league's best midfield behind him. How do we reconcile this then?

Mbappe's goals against Argentina had nothing to do with Pogba? Every passes made by Pogba were for Mbappe all through the worldcup campaign.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:46pm On Jul 17, 2018
Mbappe and Owen are comparable, but no one should just bring De Lima into this. Please. For your own safety. Dude was the best player in the world at 21.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 4:48pm On Jul 17, 2018
So many wrong submissions from almost every single side.

If Mbappe is better than Owen as a teenager the difference is marginal. Owen was a better finisher and had more speed IMO but Mbappe has better passing,dribbling and creative ability but Owen’s supporters will say he didn’t have time for shakushaku.

The best teenager in modern football was hands down the Brazilian Ronaldo.

And please you people should stop mentioning Henry. As a teenager Henry was still a raw kick n follow winger, he has no business in this debate.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:51pm On Jul 17, 2018
afrodoc2:

So many wrong submissions from almost every single side.

If Mbappe is better than Owen as a teenager the difference is marginal. Owen was a better finisher and had more speed IMO but Mbappe has better passing,dribbling and creative ability but Owen’s supporters will say he didn’t have time for shakushaku.

The best teenager in modern football was hands down the Brazilian Ronaldo.

And please you people should stop mentioning Henry. As a teenager Henry was still a raw kick n follow winger, he has no business in this debate.

Only that despite the lack of shakushaku, we still didnt see 10CL goals and 4 world cup goals from him before 20, Its like Elber saying the difference between him and Ronaldo Lima is shakushaku, when you still cannot score like Ronaldo
I dont even think Owen is faster than Mbappe

Ronaldo is definitely out on his own and Mbappe is definitely out of Owens league
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:51pm On Jul 17, 2018
afrodoc2:

So many wrong submissions from almost every single side.

If Mbappe is better than Owen as a teenager the difference is marginal. Owen was a better finisher and had more speed IMO but Mbappe has better passing,dribbling and creative ability but Owen’s supporters will say he didn’t have time for shakushaku.

The best teenager in modern football was hands down the Brazilian Ronaldo.

And please you people should stop mentioning Henry. As a teenager Henry was still a raw kick n follow winger, he has no business in this debate.
I said this earlier. Mbappe and teenage Owen are comparable. Mbappe and teenage Rooney are comparable.
The only person clearly out of this league is R9.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:55pm On Jul 17, 2018
In all this furore and hullabaloo, we've forgotten we have an untapped goldmine in central midfield, called Marco Van Ginkel.
Good Lord, Kante, Jorginho and Van Ginkel would be bloody. RLC, Fab and Bakayoko to complement.
Drinkwater can be loaned back to Leicester. Or another one of them can bleep off with Ross Barkley replacing him.
But I think Golovin is coming.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:55pm On Jul 17, 2018
Elnino4ladies:
Most people slandering Micheal Owen are conc English haters am not surprised.

The only people talking in favour of Owen are reviewing backward in history.

Nobody watch Owen live pass me. No be DSTV talks.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AmoryBlacq: 5:00pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
If he like let him win Platinum ball, the productive ones that guided their country to glory with actual goals and assists and not shaku shaku dancing we know them

So Hazard goals and assists were "unactual"?

sprinkle holy water on your brain!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 5:02pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Only that despite the lack of shakushaku, we still didnt see 10CL goals and 4 world cup goals from him before 20, Its like Elber saying the difference between him and Ronaldo Lima is shakushaku, when you still cannot score like Ronaldo
I dont even think Owen is faster than Mbappe

Ronaldo is definitely out on his own and Mbappe is definitely out of Owens league

How would he score 10 UCL goals when in that era of only champion or top 2 making champs league Liverpool never played in the champions league.

It is like you arguing that Amokachi is better than George Weah because he has World Cup goals, Liberia dey go World Cup?

P.S I am actually leaning towards Mbappe but difference is marginal.

The guy above all others is Da Lima.
All others are counterfeit.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 5:06pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


They have been looking for the one who made that comment, Mbappe and Rashford. KIKIKIKIKI

I dont even know how to respond

Take van Gaa era Rashford and put him in France and see what he does.

No be say dem shoot bird the mama fly. French league is full of hungry men.

To the point where even French internationals are blaming the quality of the league as one of the reasons why PSG continue to flop in Europe.

when domestic opposition is non-existent, and every match is contested at the same pace as a friendly game, what is there to keep PSG players sharp and on their toes?

If not for the Portuguese grim reaper, then for no born anybody well to mention Mbappe where Rashford dey.

Are you kidding me?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 5:07pm On Jul 17, 2018
AmoryBlacq:


So Hazard goals and assists were "unactual"?

sprinkle holy water on your brain!

LMAO.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Jul 17, 2018
afrodoc2:


How would he score 10 UCL goals when in that era of only champion or top 2 making champs league Liverpool never played in the champions league.

It is like you arguing that Amokachi is better than George Weah because he has World Cup goals, Liberia dey go World Cup?

P.S I am actually leaning towards Mbappe but difference is marginal.

The guy above all others is Da Lima.
All others are counterfeit.

Well from 1999/2000 England was presenting 3 clubs and by 2002 England had 4 reps. That was the time Owen was 23.

Owen played in Liverpool, Newcastle Madrid Man Utd and had 11 career CL goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 5:09pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


Take van Gaa era Rashford and put him in France and see what he does.

No be say dem shoot bird the mama fly. French league is full of hungry men.

To the point where even French internationals are blaming the quality of the league as one of the reasons why PSG continue to flop in Europe.

when domestic opposition is non-existent, and every match is contested at the same pace as a friendly game, what is there to keep PSG players sharp and on their toes?

If not for the Portuguese grim reaper, then for no born anybody well to mention Mbappe where Rashford dey.

Are you kidding me?
Truth is Rashford has regressed, what with him not having a particular position, and a lack of games. The boys confidence is now fragile sef.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 5:12pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Well from 1999/2000 England was presenting 3 clubs and by 2002 England had 4 reps. That was the time Owen was 23.

Owen played in Liverpool, Newcastle Madrid Man Utd and had 11 career CL goals

I don’t understand why you are digressing.
The debate is about their TEENAGE years. What they did after 20 is not included in this. And that is why I said Igwe’s name should be expunged from the list, dude lit up only after he hit 20.

In all likelihood Mbappe will have a better career, heck the 19 yr old Owen was better than the 24yr old Owen.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:12pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
[s]Oloshious fellow. Your fellow quack and ebola pundits are in Intensive care unit, hopefully they can recover unlike an asinwin like you whose case is a hopeless one[/s]

I wanted to flog your brain before but it's better to

AmoryBlacq:


So Hazard goals and assists were "unactual"?

sprinkle holy water on your brain!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:12pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:

Take van Gaa era Rashford and put him in France and see what he does.
No be say dem shoot bird the mama fly. French league is full of hungry men.
To the point where even French internationals are blaming the quality of the league as one of the reasons why PSG continue to flop in Europe.
when domestic opposition is non-existent, and every match is contested at the same pace as a friendly game, what is there to keep PSG players sharp and on their toes?

If not for the Portuguese grim reaper, then for no born anybody well to mention Mbappe where Rashford dey.

Are you kidding me?

Mbappe has scored 10 CL goals and 4 world cup goals that is vs the very top opponents not from French league.

All those posts about PSG flop blame in Europe are just lazy revisionism. Has Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea done significantly better than PSG in Europe in the past 5 seasons

Juve has made 2 finals from a weaker league.

How many teams from the stronger league in EPL has done better that Juve, Bayern or PSG

PSG simply ran into Madrid or Barcelona. the 2 teams that are better than everyone else. If like Liverpool last season they had to play Porto in second round instead of Madrid they will make the quarter final or beyond. If Liverpool had played Madrid too in the second round they will be knocked out where you get to depends on how you are able to avoid Madrid
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 5:16pm On Jul 17, 2018
Unlimited22:

Truth is Rashford has regressed, what with him not having a particular position, and a lack of games. The boys confidence is now fragile sef.

How won't he regress?

He can see his boss asking the striker that was bought for 70m+ to play left back, and berating a concussed defender for failing to ignore his potential brain injury, and focus on his defending instead.





If goal scoring and attacking play is not enough to get a striker into the team, you think he's going to focus on those aspects in training?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 5:18pm On Jul 17, 2018
AmoryBlacq:

So Hazard goals and assists were "unactual"?
sprinkle holy water on your brain!


See the way I laughed like mumu LMFAO

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 5:20pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Mbappe has scored 10 CL goals and 4 world cup goals that is vs the very top opponents not from French league.

All those posts about PSG flop blame in Europe are just lazy revisionism. Has Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea done significantly better than PSG in Europe in the past 5 seasons

Juve has made 2 finals from a weaker league.

How many teams from the stronger league in EPL has done better that Juve, Bayern or PSG

PSG simply ran into Madrid or Barcelona. the 2 teams that are better than everyone else. If like Liverpool last season they had to play Porto in second round instead of Madrid they will make the quarter final or beyond. If Liverpool had played Madrid too in the second round they will be knocked out where you get to depends on how you are able to avoid Madrid

Yes because Man City, Man Utd and co have spent more on transfers than PSG over the last 3 seasons.


PSG bought world's most expensive player. Bought world most expensive teenager. And before that have been cooking their books to under report transfer values, yet nothing to show for it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:21pm On Jul 17, 2018
Benzema was better than Mbappe in his teens. He is still better than him with his ucl goals and trophies.

The best striker ever to come from France.

Benzema: Fvvck Henry, fvvck Mbappe, fvvck Giroud, fvvck Pogba, fvvck Kante, fvvck Griezmann, fvvck Modric, fvvck Hazard, fvvck Deschamps, fvvck Infantino, fvvck world cup, fvck apari raumdeuter, who abandoned me, celebrating a camerounian teenager, who never won ucl like me. Fvvck y'all.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:23pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


Yes because Man City, Man Utd and co have spent more on transfers than PSG over the last 3 seasons.

Psg, city man utd will be top 5-7 spenders in Europe over the past 5 years. It takes money to meet up to where others have been for decades

If Everton outspends Madrid for the next 4 years will they catch up with Madrid in 4 years?

The main reason psg get knocked out is because they meet Barcelona and Madrid

Chelsea spent money for almost a decade before they won the CL no one was telling us about weak league then

Juventus have made 2 Cl finals from weak league, how many clubs from EPL strong league have madeit in that same time frame
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 5:27pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Psg, city man utd will be top 5-7 spenders in Europe over the past 5 years. It takes money to meet up to where others have been for decades

If Everton outspends Madrid for the next 4 years will they catch up with Madrid in 4 years?

If Everton buy Neymar, Mbappe, Cavani, Marquinos, Thiago Silva, Veratti, Di Maria, Draxler, Dani Elves, Guedes, etc today, I will immediately expect them to win UCL.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:28pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


If Everton buy Neymar, Mbappe, Cavani, Marquinos, Thiago Silva, Veratti, Di Maria, Draxler, Dani Elves, Guedes, etc today, I will immediately expect them to win UCL.

How long did it take Chelsea to win the cl after such spending

This year makes it a decade that city has been spending no CL final yet

Madrid broke records from 2008 to 2013 no CL final

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