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Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by alBHAGDADI: 6:51pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
adescopy: If you had read Mathew 24 further, you would have seen that Jesus said the tribulation will come first before he raptures his saints. 1 Like |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by alBHAGDADI: 6:55pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
linearity: The rapture and the second coming of Jesus are the same event, not separate. The below passage shatters all you have been saying since. It shows that the rapture and the second coming of Jesus will not happen until the Antichrist is revealed who will persecuted Christians. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Likes |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by sanmitee(m): 7:06pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Big thumbs up Op. I was moved to write about this here also, you did great justice to this important issue in believers' beliefs. Do you listen to Pastor Stephen Anderson of First Baptist USA? |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by sanmitee(m): 7:07pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Big thumbs up Op. I was moved to write about this here also, you did great justice to this important issue in believers' beliefs. Do you listen to Pastor Stephen Anderson of First Baptist USA? I'll recommend everyone watch 'After the tribulation' on YouTube. 1 Like |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by FirePower1(m): 7:11pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
There is no need for arguments, there are two separate events that could be referred to as the great tribulation in the Book Of Revelation, one is greater and more severe than the other. The first one is recorded in Revelation 5:1-8:1, and it is regulated by the opening of the seven seals. It is for the trial of the saints. Revelation 7:13-14 KJV And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? [14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. The second is record in Revelation 8:2-10:4, it is regulated by the blowing of the trumpets. It is the recompense of trouble to the wicked. Revelation 9:20-21 KJV And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: [21] Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. 2 Thessalonians 1:6 KJV Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; Please do all you can now to endure the trial of the saint and avoid the judgment of the wicked James 1:12 KJV Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Hebrews 10:31 KJV It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. May God bless and uphold you till the end in Jesus Christ Name. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 7:24pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
OyinO:If I will return unto dust and not have an eternal fate. then what's the point seeking to overcome sin? Please stop deceiving people with this unbiblical doctrine. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 7:31pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
quentin06:Don't condemn what you haven't experienced. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 7:38pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
OyinO:Lol this your logic is funny. Believing in God's existence and subsequently accepting His promise in His son, Jesus Christ isn't what subjects one to an eternal fate. Your very existence as a homo sapiens does, and choosing to BELIEVE will ultimately lead you to the right part of the two fates available. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by brodalokie: 7:38pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
No the great tribulation will happen after the rapture of the bridal church. It is those who doesn't make it that will undergo the receive Mark of the beast (Cain/666) or die tribulation. You will not be able to tell the difference between the Christian Church vs state anymore. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 7:46pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:You seem to have this mindset that the bible must state everything explicitly before its existence or genuineness can be proven. This is a carnal mindset and it gives no room for an effective reception of the holy spirit's teachings. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Olumeme: 7:49pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Eres94: I was born by my father who was born by his father and so on. How the first man came about, I don't know, I didn't come from ape either. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Olumeme: 7:50pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
farem: English teacher, epp me correct the statement.. Mumu |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by brodalokie: 7:50pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: The rapture is a secret coming only for the gentile church also reffered to as the bridal church. While the second coming is for the Jewish church who may be reffered to as His brethren. This second coming will be preceeded by Moses and Elijah (the two Olive tree). There are lots of signs to watch out for... |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by alBHAGDADI: 7:51pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
brodalokie:Where are all of these written in the Bible? |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by alBHAGDADI: 7:53pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Jayhazard:The Holy Spirit doesn't teach anything different from what is in the Bible. If the Bible doesn't say something and you go about portraying that thing as the word of God, then you make yourself a liar. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by alBHAGDADI: 7:56pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
sanmitee: Pastor Steven Anderson is my mentor. I watch his YouTube videos almost everyday. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 7:59pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Olumeme:You don't know how the first man came about, but the bible has all the details you need. Why then do you keep rejecting it? |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by brodalokie: 8:00pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: All over the new testerment... This world will not continue forever. It will to seize to exist maybe sooner than later... The testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy. One of my occult acquaintance who live in California thinks that the Bible is a book of spell. I think the Bible is the absolute. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
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Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by alBHAGDADI: 8:05pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
brodalokie: Show me where it is written all over the new testament. I'm waiting. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by brodalokie: 8:37pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
stableprice: If you're not a Christian, you don't have to borther about a tribulation in the first place but the great tribulation will be felt by all and the only way to work, trade or even walk around then is only if you have the Mark of Cain. The Mark of the beast is some sort of global intelligence corporation which is used for policing, educating and whealth redistribution and has the Beast at the very center. Ever wonder how closely this resemble the Orion system of reign? Or the Egyptian pyramid? In contrast to the New Jerusalem that the world will experience after? Add: I've been wanting to say that the office of the Beast is already around for a long time but the Beast in the book of revelation has not been born yet or perhaps not mature yet. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by femarse: 8:56pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
oloriLFC:to educate you of your ignorance |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Eres94: 9:24pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Olumeme: then stop being foolish, and ask the right questions |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by mufy1990: 10:17pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Swargu: u re predicting d death of ur fellow human being, what is ur assurance dt u self will see tomorrow |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Olumeme: 11:06pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Eres94:Idiocy and stupidity runs in your generation. If your great grandfathers are from clay, we are not here |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Olumeme: 11:08pm On Nov 18, 2018 |
Jayhazard: If I don't know would not mean I'll believe any story thrown at me. There are over 500 stories about creation across the world, from various religion and tribes, all are contradictory and not consistent. They are all lies |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by OyinO: 3:08am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Jayhazard:Sorry, you miss road. Jesus cannot save Africans or Nigerians. Even your name - Jay (Bros Jay/ Jesus) Jayhazard means Jesus hazard. There were Gods in Africa before imperial and Arabic introductons of Allah and Jesus. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by OyinO: 3:11am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Jayhazard:Then, argue with your bible that stated it. And why can't you stop sinning instead of struggling and seeking to overcome sin? Your religion is a serious joke taken too seriously. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Nobody: 7:30am On Nov 19, 2018 |
mufy1990:Its good I am predicting, he has killed people. |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Honesty007(m): 10:08am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Albaghdadi ,u r trying to twist the truth and i would beat u with these facts 1)The church age is different from the tribulation age.many jews,christians have been killed before the rapture and they are saints called matyrs.i ask you "who is killing them? is it antichrist? certainly not.what killed them are the false religions and the religious systems that do not know or believe in Jesus christ.it is the saints and the early church that were killed by these religious system.it is called babylon the great,the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and matyrs of Jesus.rev 17:5-6.it is the kindgom reigning over the kings of the earth.in todays modern world,the roman catholic church is that babylon that would house all other religions under her.but the antichrist would hate her and make her desolate-rev 17:1m to end.Modern democracy has its root from rome.rome ruled when christ was born and would rule again when christ would come ie armageddon. is democracy not ruling over almost all the world now? |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by Honesty007(m): 10:28am On Nov 19, 2018 |
2)Did Jesus die only for the jews ? religious deeds or acts of good would not make u a christian but believing in Jesus christ and obeying his commandments and doing his will would take u to heaven.do u know that there are many religious people who go to church but do not believe in christ? and do u know that all other religions outside christ are false? why then would satan not create false religions to lure many to hell? Judaism,islam,roman catholicsm are the leading false religiouns in the mystery of iniquity.islam birthed terrorism and the others religious bigotry.any religion that doesnt believe in Jesus christ,nor his name or his death and resurection are antichrist in nature. the tribulation u r refering to was the persecution of the early church by false religions and roman rule but take note the person of antichrist had not come.it was the roman church system that had been persecuting the jews and even killed Jesus christ and his apostles.Judaism also was a blood sucker.was there any mark of the beas |
Re: The Rapture Will Not Happen Until Christians Have Faced The Great Tribulation by brodalokie: 10:40am On Nov 19, 2018 |
Olumeme: I am dead cert' the Moses account given in the Holy Bible is 100% accurate. Man created and then formed as a living soul and then the fall following redemption program. Every other account is a pervertion |
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