So the average homosexuality activist will want you to believe that homosexuality is not a sin?

He wants to sell you the idea that a wise Creator, YHVH Almighty, who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and everything in them, approves of homosexuality?

The average homosexuality activist wants you to accept the idea that the omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient Creator, YHVH of Hosts, who created everything and assigned purpose/purposes to each thing he created, supports same sex relationship.

How can he who made: man and gave him a sexual organ, his penis, which he designed in such a way that it can only penetrate; woman and assigned her a vagina - which is designed to accept the penetration; the tongue for talking and tasting and the anus for removing waste matter, such as fart and faeces, now turn around and say, "man you can use your penis and screw another man's anus, hey you can even use your tongue if you like"?

It is preposterous to even imagine that our Father in heaven will be okay with the idea of a woman sampling her breast and vagina for her fellow woman to handle or caress for sexual pleasure. Pathetic! Absolute humbug.

These homosexuality activists either think they are too smart or that the saints are incredibly stupid.

A man shall call the woman he is married to his wife, while the woman shall call him her husband. It is absurd and even sacrilegious for two people of the same sex to call each other husband and husband or wife and wife.


The Scriptures have made a clear and unequivocal statement regarding the abominable nature of homosexuality. It was so yesterday, it is so today, it will be so tomorrow and will continue to be so for ever.

Let those want to revel in the detestable act of homosexuality have at it and stop twisting and hammering the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty to justify their cravings for strange flesh.


The Truth as expounded by the set-apart Scriptures of the Creator of the ends of the earth, YHVH El Shaddai, is neither malleable nor ductile, but is as rigid as rigidity can be.

Leviticus 18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

How about we start with proving a god exists that is very interested in who I sleep with.

elated177:
Leviticus 18:22
Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Go and sit down somewhere jor, you that runs stiff scared, hides behind lies and deceit of Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 and all.

If you are careless and not honest with the truth in small matters like that in Leviticus 18:22 and/or leviticus 20:13, only God knows what else you are ignorant about

If I am to ask you, to give the rationale for Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13, and explain why and how the term abomination that appear in Leviticus 18:22, is so to God, it will be exam and you will start stammering, chomping teeth and either as usual run and/or take flight.

I have told you before that content is king, but context is king-maker
cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Did this particular Scripture say anywhere that if a man has sex with a male or shrine prostitute?

Did this particular Scripture, directly or indirectly, refer to cult sex?

No. An unambiguous NO!

If a man has any form of sexual relationship with another man, they have committed an abomination.

The Father in heaven did not mince words when he said "BOTH OF THEM" have done a detestable thing.

It was because of this abomination that YHVH of Hosts rained down fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, which existed hundreds of years before he gave the Israelites the law.

The Scripture here did not say in the context of a man and a shrine or male prostitute.

Simple, clear and straight to the point, if a person has any form of sexual relationship with another of the same sex, they have committed an abomination.

Matt 19:4-6 'Haven't you read,' he replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator "made them male and female," and said, "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh"? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what YHVH has joined together, let no one separate.

The Creator of the ends of the earth, YHVH El Shaddai, sanctioned and ordained marriage from the beginning, right there in the garden of Eden.

YHVH Almighty has not and will never put asunder - separate - the complementary relationship which he ordained from the beginning and then turn around and join man and man or woman and woman. Never!

Same sex union is not marriage, but an
abomination. Marriage is a holy matrimony, a holy union - if you like, between a man and a woman. As far as the Creator and his Scriptures are concerned, neither same sex relationship nor same sex marriage exists.

Simply because man, in his pride, arrogance and rebellion, believes he can redefine marriage does not mean marriage includes the aberration that exists among same sex couples.

The saints must not allow the agents of spiritual wickedness to confuse them.

John 10:4-5 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger, in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice.

Yahushua the Messiah is the Shepherd.

Every follower of Yahushua the Messiah is his sheep.

What does a shepherd do?

He guides and takes good care of his sheep.

Yahushua the Messiah is the Word of YHVH of Hosts, the embodiment of his Ten Commandments.

He, Yahushua the Messiah - the Shepherd, the embodiment of Ten Commandments - guides us, his sheep - his saints, his followers, his servants, his brothers, his sisters - on the righteous path which the Father, our Father, has mapped out for us.

Whenever any of the sheep of the Great Shepherd - Yahushua the Messiah - hears his voice, he/she will recognise it, for he/she knows his voice.

That Ancient Voice, which was with the Father in the beginning, has spoken and condemned homosexuality in all its form, shape or manner.

Any other voice speaking anything contrary to what the Ancient Voice had already spoken in the beginning, as long as the abominable act of homosexuality is concerned, is a stranger and the sheep - the followers of Yahushua the Messiah - will not accept such for they do not recognize such voice.

Isaiah 8:19-20 When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people enquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living? Consult God's instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Jer 6:16 This is what YHVH says: 'Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, "We will not walk in it." '

I will walk in the ancient paths by obeying Yahushua the Messiah, the embodiment of the Ten Commandments of YHVH El Shaddai.

Will you?

elated177:
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Did this particular Scripture say anywhere that if a man has sex with a male or shrine prostitute?

Yes it did and/or does.

elated177:
Did this particular Scripture, directly or indirectly, refer to cult sex?

Yes, it did and/or do.

elated177:
No. An unambiguous NO!

Yes, it clearly did. Stop the pretext and look at the context of Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13

elated177:
If a man has any form of sexual relationship with another man, they have committed an abomination.

Totally misinterpreted and a very bad opinion

elated177:
The Father in heaven did not mince words when he said "BOTH OF THEM" have done a detestable thing

This is one of your many persistent and misleading big fat lies.

elated177:
It was because of this abomination that YHVH of Hosts rained down fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, which existed hundreds of years before he gave the Israelites the law.

The problem is you repeatedly are unable to explain what specifically the abomination is

elated177:
The Scripture here did not say in the context of a man and a shrine or male prostitute.

Why should it, this isn't Leviticus 18:22 or Leviticus 20:13 so please stop mixing up Sodom and Gomorrah with them

elated177:
Simple, clear and straight to the point, if a person has any form of sexual relationship with another of the same sex, they have committed an abomination.

If one has a romantic, faithful, truly, caring, love for another, that is a life long and until death do them apart, relationship, sexually or not, with another person of the same sex is not an abomination

MuttleyLaff:
Go and sit down somewhere jor, you that runs stiff scared, hides behind lies and deceit of Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 and all.

Don't you think you should write your view in a thread of its own by now like elated has done so we all don't have to dig through nonsense to see it?

budaatum:

Don't you think you should write your view in a thread of its own by now like elated has done so we all don't have to dig through nonsense to see it?

. [size=8pt][/size][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] .. Budaatum you devil you. Greetings dear one. Muttleylaff you obviously have novel interpretation or understanding of the holy scriptures. If you are right(which i think you are) then the foundations of Christendom was built on quick sand. Kindly open another thread and elaborate further. Moreso, you should please let us know how you arrived at such conclusions

budaatum:
Don't you think you should write your view in a thread of its own by now like elated has done so we all don't have to dig through nonsense to see it?

I have, I have but unfortunately was inadvertently deleted. As much as the time and effort got wasted, I am however pleased, the post got deleted because I now have the opportunity of writing a better version of the deleted one.

I would mention and notify you when its done up and uploaded

elated177 and others like jesusjnr, shepherd00 etcetera religiously have declined or refused to answer my easy, simplest and straightforward questions on abomination and why same sex relationship is by God detested

kkins25:
Budaatum you devil you. Greetings dear one. Muttleylaff you obviously have novel interpretation or understanding of the holy scriptures. If you are right(which i think you are) then the foundations of Christendom was built on quick sand. Kindly open another thread and elaborate further. Moreso, you should please let us know how you arrived at such conclusions

Nwanne, I wouldn't say it's novel, because all the information is actually out there in the open, not and never hidden. I have a post coming up, I will mention and notify you once I am finished with it. Just watch how again people like elated177, jesusjnr, shepherd00 etcetera put a button on their lips at salvo of queries I level at them

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, I wouldn't say it's novel, because all the information is actually out there in the open, not and never hidden. I have a post coming up, I will mention and notify you once I am finished with it. Just watch how again people like elated177, jesusjnr, shepherd00 etcetera put a button on their lips at salvo of queries I level at them

If it's not in a thread of it's own, don't bother mentioning me muttley. I refuse to wade through arguments about what grown up people choose to do with their pokers!

budaatum:

If it's not in a thread of it's own, don't bother mentioning me muttley. I refuse to wade through arguments about what grown up people choose to do with their pokers!

Suit yourself.

You know me by now, that I don't and never do arguments. I have all along being presenting bare incontrovertible facts, asked easy, simple and straightforward questions which all those I ask like them jesusjnr, elated177, shepherd00 etcetera just duck, ignore and/or avoid answering them.

I owe only TV01 the response anyway, as it is only him who had the huge swinging balls and temerity to want to stand toe to toe with me and also engage in an arm wrestle. I see him as one who wouldn't dodge questions asked him and so would sincerely be a good sport.

MuttleyLaff:


You know me by now, that I don't and never do arguments.

Lol muttley! Of course I suit myself. However, and just so you know, I'd personally say, "argument" is exactly what you do, but I'd expect you not to agree with me while you argue that you don't.

budaatum:

Lol muttley! Of course I suit myself. However, and just so you know, I'd personally say, "argument" is exactly what you do, but I'd expect you not to agree with me while you argue that you don't.

It has nothing remotely to do with just whatever they do with their pokers because just as it is natural for some to drive cars and turn the steering wheel with their feet, so is it natural for some to poke same sex others or have same sex others poke them. Do you understand and agree budaatum?

MuttleyLaff:
Suit yourself.

You know me by now, that I don't and never do arguments. I have all along being presenting bare incontrovertible facts, asked easy, simple and straightforward questions which all those I ask like them jesusjnr, elated177, shepherd00 etcetera just duck, ignore and/or avoid answering them.

I owe only TV01 the response anyway, as it is only him who had the huge swinging balls and temerity to want to stand toe to toe with me and also engage in an arm wrestle. I see him as one who wouldn't dodge questions asked him and so would sincerely be a good sport.

What kind of incontrovertible facts have you been presenting MuttleyLatff?

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, I wouldn't say it's novel, because all the information is actually out there in the open, not and never hidden. I have a post coming up, I will mention and notify you once I am finished with it. Just watch how again people like elated177, jesusjnr, shepherd00 etcetera put a button on their lips at salvo of queries I level at them

I will be expecting the thread.

MuttleyLaff:
I have, I have but unfortunately I inadvertently deleted. As much as the time and effort got wasted, I am however pleased, the post got deleted because I now have the opportunity of writing a better version of the deleted one.

I would mention and notify you when its done up and uploaded

elated177 and others like jesusjnr, shepherd00 etcetera religiously have declined or refused to answer my easy, simplest and straightforward questions on abomination and why same sex relationship is by God detested

Like what questions? I will be here when your thread comes out.

And, be ready to answer the ones which will be posted to you, because so far you dodge questions but go abt beating your chest boasting all around when you are the dishonest one.

John 17:3 Now this eternal life: that they know you, the only true Elohim, and Yahushua the Messiah, whom you have sent.

Anyone who knows the Father, the Creator of the ends of the earth, and his Son - his Word -Yahushua the Messiah, has eternal life.

Anyone who knows the Father knows his Son - his Word. Anyone who does not know the Father does not know his Son - his Word.

Anyone who does not have the Father does not have his Son - his Word. Anyone who does not have the Son - the Word - does not have the Father.

The Father and his Son are one. John 10:30.

Anyone who knows the Father, obeys his Word, his Son. Such a person has eternal life --- this is eternal life. John 3:16; 1 John 5:1-2.

Anyone who obeys Yahushua the Messiah - the Word of YHVH of Hosts - lives in him and he in such a person. John 14:21,23; John 15:7-10.

It is only then such s person can say he or she has eternal life, this is because Yahushua the Messiah, who himself is the Word of YHVH of Hosts, is life.

1 John 2:3-6 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, 'I know him,'but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone obeys his word, love for YHVH is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: whoever claims to live in him must live as Yahushua did.

1 John 5:3 In fact this is love for YHVH: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome,

1 John 5:11-12 And this is the testimony: YHVH has given us eternal life, and this eternal life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of YHVH does not have life.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, I wouldn't say it's novel, because all the information is actually out there in the open, not and never hidden. I have a post coming up, I will mention and notify you once I am finished with it. Just watch how again people like elated177, jesusjnr, shepherd00 etcetera put a button on their lips at salvo of queries I level at them

ive got my fingers crossed sir.

2 Timothy 3:12-13 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in the Messiah will be persecuted, while evildoers and impostors will grow from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

To every sincere seeker of truth out there and on this forum, look to the Truth himself, Yahushua the Messiah. Assess every thing bordering on the Scriptures prayerfully.

Many agents of darkness are on the prowl, just like Satan their master, looking for whom to deceive and win over to the kingdom of wickedness. They are ready to bend, twist and hammer the set-apart Scriptures just to propagate their demonic agenda. Do not be deceived by the fact that they reel out the Scriptures. It is a facade, put up just to lure you into their traps. They are snares. Their judgment will be swift.

If you are a seeker and you do not belong to the class of people described by the Scriptures below, then you have nothing to worry about. This is because the Great Shepherd of the flock, Yahushua the Messiah, will not allow you, his sheep, to fall into the trap of the kingdom of darkness.

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather round them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Ezekiel 16:49-50 Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did DETESTABLE THINGS before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

The capitalized words, detestable things, in the Scriptural reference above clearly referred to homosexuality as condemned in:

Lev 18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Lev 20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own head.

It is explicitly clear that Sodom and her daughters - her surrounding cities - committed, among other iniquities, the detestable act of homosexuality.

Read:

Gen 13:13 Now the people of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against YHVH.

Gen 18:20-21 Then YHVH said, ' The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.

Wickedness in the Scriptural context is lawlessness. A wicked person in the sight of our Father in heaven is a person who violates his laws - his commands. A person who has no regard for the laws of the Creator is lawless. A wicked or lawless person will commit every form of sin, since such a person will not be held back by any iota of conscience --- such one is separated from his or her Maker.

Gen 19:4-5 and Jude 7

Gen 19:4:5 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom - young and old - surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. KJV.

Jude 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. NIV.

It is crystal clear that the wicked men and boys of Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns had no idea of the identities of the men in Lot's house - they did not know that they were messengers(angels).

It is clear that they were driven by their desire for sex.

It shows that the wicked men and boys of Sodom and Gomorrah had slept with one another up to the point that they were familiar with one another.

This also shows how rotten and wicked those cities actually were.

It is unambiguously clear that the men and boys of Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns saw new faces and desired to have a taste of them sexually.

Do not be deceived by the shameless and unrepentant agents of darkness, both on this forum and outside, who have no iota of qualms distorting the Scriptures in order to carry out their father's desire as long as justifying the abominable act of homosexuality is concerned. Satan has appointed them to do exactly what they are doing.

YHVH of Hosts has empowered his saints, of which elated177 is one, to expose the deeds of the serpentine agents and their serpentine ways. It would be easier for them to have a large millstone tied to their necks and be tossed into the sea, than to mislead the least of the saints of Yahushua the Messiah here or beyond this forum.

When the cup of this present world is full, the Creator of the ends of the earth, YHVH Almighty, will destroy it.

Homosexuality is at the top of the grievous sins that will lead to the destruction of this world.

2 Peter 2:12-14 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, revelling in their pleasures while they feast with you. With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are expert in greed - an accursed brood.

Only a cursed person will brazenly twist the Scriptures in attempt to justify an act which the same Scriptures have explicitly condemned as abominable. It is obvious who such person's master is, the devil.

Homosexuality is wrong, demonic and abominable. There is no Scriptural approval or justification for homosexuality, albeit a certain kind. Such Scripture does not exist anywhere in the Word of YHVH El Shaddai.

Matt 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many.

Any preacher of the word of YHVH El Shaddai who says there is nothing wrong with homosexuality - albeit a particular kind - is a false preacher, a messenger of Satan.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

Matt 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.

2 Thess 2:3-4 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or worshipped, so that he sets himself to be God.

2 Thess 2:7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

2 Thess 2:9-10 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve that lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

2 Tim 3:1-5 But mark this: there will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of YHVH - having a form of godliness but denying its powers. Have nothing to do with such people.

2 Tim 3:8-9 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also THESE TEACHERS OPPOSE THE TRUTH. THEY ARE MEN OF DEPRAVED MINDS, WHO, as far as the FAITH IS CONCERNED, ARE REJECTED. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Master who bought them - bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

The saints of YHVH of Hosts should not see the acceptance of homosexuality going on in some countries across the world as something strange. Such abominable occurrences must take place because they are signs of the end time. The Scriptures cannot lie. The Scriptures warned us that such abominations must take place. Therefore, the saints should not be surprised.

However, while the homosexuals, the homosexuality activists and those who approve of the abomination are celebrating, the saints must reflect soberly on what the Scriptures say about such times as these.

As iniquity increases in this world, the strength and power of YHVH Almighty will also increase in his saints to enable them stand firm and overcome.

The cup of wickedness/lawlessness of this present world is gradually filling up. When it is full, YHVH Almighty will pour his wrath on its people.

Do not be deceived by the shameless and unrepentant agents of darkness, both on this forum and outside, who have no iota of qualms distorting the Scriptures in order to carry out their father's desire as long as justifying the abominable act of homosexuality is concerned. Satan has appointed them to do exactly what they are doing.

Sexual sins, no doubt, are some of the most powerful weapons in the armoury of the kingdom of darkness. Same sex relationship is the most powerful among others.

Same sex relationship violates nature and pollutes the earth. It is filthy and detestable. It contaminates spirits, souls and bodies of those who engage in it.

Same sex relationship gives Satan and the demons the best satisfaction. This singular act of perversion pollutes the environment spiritually. The demons and Satan need spiritually polluted environment to thrive and operate.

This is why the saint must guard his or her heart with due diligence in any environment he or she finds himself or herself. In any environment where demons rule or dominate, you are likely to find spirits of sexual perversion. Any carrier of the light of YHVH Almighty in that environment is an outright enemy of the evil spirits in that environment and, by that very fact, the enemy of the human beings who worship them. This is why the spiritual warfare is always being fought.

Hold on to the Word of YHVH Almighty and he will never forsake you. Isaiah 8:20; Jer 6:16; Matt 11:28-30; Eph 6:11-18.

Do not be deceived! No one who supports or engages in same sex relationship in any form is a servant of YHVH Almighty.

elated177:
Do not be deceived! No one who supports or engages in same sex relationship in any form is a servant of YHVH Almighty.

Only men where prohibited from engaging in it because men have seeds and it will lead to the wastage of the seeds, women where not included.. Read leviticus 18:22

sonmvayina:


Only men where prohibited from engaging in it because men have seeds and it will lead to the wastage of the seeds, women where not included.. Read leviticus 18:22

So women can practise same-sex relationship?

When it comes to obedience to the Ten Commandments of the Father, lawless people are quick to quote this portion of the Scriptures - albeit out of context - "our righteous acts are like filthy rags."

When it comes to offering, seed-sowing, tithing, everything that has to do with money, they never remember the same Scripture.

Why?

Could it is because they are in it for the money and don't have regard for the Commandments of YHVH Almighty?

Could these lawless people explain this Scripture?

Rev 19:8 Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear. (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of YHVH's holy people.)


Away from me you who practise lawlessness.