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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Lenny9000(m): 2:00pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
jiggaz: In all my years on Naira land, this is the Longest post I have ever read. I can't believe that I actually read everything. Very insightful, interesting and informative. Did you write everything yourself or just a post from a blog? Anyway thanks for posting this. God bless |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 2:02pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI: At the bolded, I don't seem to understand. That's if you understood what you meant. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by aytuns(m): 2:11pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd: You are funny ó... Your case is Like a clay pot calling the Potter wicked because He decided to break it apart. God is the creator, and we His creation, and when He is displeased with us due to our misdeeds, we suffer the consequences. All things we created for HIS pleasure. HE decides what to do with his creation, including wiping away with a flood. That's why John 3:16 still marvel Christians.. How can a creator so love His creation that after all our sins, He still sends HIS only begotten Son to die for us. And here you are spewing all these nonsense.. Devil is a liar o 2 Likes |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 2:16pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
aytuns: So he creates babies and destroy them for his pleasures. Then Boko Haram and terrorists who kill for his pleasure are justified 1 Like |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 2:21pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz: The concept of years as you know it and refer to it was set around the 14th century AD. The Gregorian Calendar. I do not see how you read a book that spans thousand of years, starting with oral tradition and you expect the terms and lexicon to be exactly what you use today. Am not sure what perfection means to you, the story is true. As for the language used in telling the story, you must treat it in archeological context. As for what animals ate, or movement if animals. I have addressed those in earlier posts. Have you factored continental drifts into your equations. The island of Mauritius has such strange species, yet so close to the east coast of Africa. Records of fossils of various animals in translocation abound. What is missing is the proper timing if these events. Question is was the lion then exactly like the lion today that eats zebras? |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by jiggaz(m): 2:28pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Lenny9000:Thank you my brother... The post is from a blog, the link is at the end of the post... |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by jiggaz(m): 2:28pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
aytuns:Thank u my brother. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Nobody: 2:40pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
"The WOMAN' SEED is Jesus ” Chai! See ignorance He was a seed to woman and in talking about even john the baptist and other humans, he used the word "of all that are born of women" Why didn't he say “Amongst we born of women”. Mtcheeww!! Stinking crap. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 2:41pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI:You guys need to get it right with the timing and years, history books got theirs right, why can't the Bible. The Egyptian Torah got theirs right. It seems u guys are deliberately hiding under time excuses....if you people can get the timing right, then the Bible is of no use then you are going too far with your theories. Are u saying continental drift was responsible for the dispersion of anmilas across the world. We are talking of a flood that kept the whole animals in a single locality, polar bears and kangaroos in same condition and continental drift was responsible for their dispersion?? Talking of continental drift, we are talking of millions of years. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adakintroy: 2:47pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
dazzlingd: That is our account and I believe it. Unlike the your people acount and I came from a tadpole. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 2:55pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz: Wonderfully...... If you can tell us the history of ur lineage 20 generations down, their foremost origins, how they migrated and where their settlements were till this present time, I'll provide worthy answers to your questions. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 2:59pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz: The whole premise of the arguments here to disprove Noah, has been to show how impossible it is. My simple approach is to show you the skimmers of possibility, not that am telling exactly how it happens cause I was not there. My point is the flood killed land animals, not water animals. Water dwelling animals would increase in population if a flood took over all land. As water recede, they will be trapped in puddles an land and a source of food for land animals. Well the idiot I was replying had implied that salt water does not mix with fresh water, so no possibility of such puddles. That's kindergartens' science. I explained that it does, and will result in salt water of lower salinity where some marine animals can survive. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:02pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI: Let me help with this issue of timing once and for all, once we get it right, we can continue. The Bible gave the genealogy of Jesus Christ from the first man to Jesus... From Jesus till date is about 2000 years.. Adam to Jesus was about 60 generations which amounts to about 6000 years at the MOST. meaning from Adam to us at the most is less than 8 thousand years. So Noah to our generation definitely less than 8k years Then u can have you appropriate timing. You are the same guy who spoke of genetic optimisation, so tell me what amount of genetic optimisation, continental drift, scientific theory, algorithm could have derived all these variations and answer all these doubts. Please answer sincerely |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:08pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI: Salt water mixing with fresh water will happen when the entire world becomes flooded, that will weaken your argument as to the fact that aquatic animals can't survive under same habitat..... Also density and water pressure will change with increase in volume and variation of salinity and temperature. meaning, many aquatic animals will die and probably go into extinction I like the way you present your theories though, I wish many religious folks can come up like this. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by driand(m): 3:15pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
ArchAngelos999:not in the mood for an argument right now but I'll give you something to chill with... When was it that God the father asked a question in heaven and there was a great silence before Christ answered and said "Father send me"....? Was it before the creation or after the law of Moses? And don't forget what prompted that someone should go... And don't forget the comment "my people are dying out of ignorance" With your many claims of being spiritual you should be able to put all that together in one sentence |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:16pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Adakintroy: Science is trying it's best to explain our origin, those are the real MVP's...people searching for our answers using available evidences and clues, science does not boast to have gotten it right... It's a wrong idea to stick to what you have been thought to believe without questioning or digging for further truth. That science hasn't gotten the full facts about our origin doesn't make religion the correct version.... So far, science is still the best means to answers of our origin and still work in progress. At first, we knew only of our flat world. Over the years with the help of science, we can now say our world is spherical, we talk of other planets, talk of other solar systems ,galaxies and the universe... We have been able to predict ages of rocks, able to dig underground... Able to prove that human life has been in existence over 200,000 years ago, we have been able to study of genes, medical sciences have improved, while a part of science is tracing our origin, another part is moving us forward to the future to solve our immediate problems and create a more advanced future using same pracrical approach. No one said you originated from tadpoles, but we now know how a sperm and egg looks like, we can now write the empirical formula of compounds and create new compounds, we can now blend materials to produce new nate |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:17pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Adakintroy: Science is trying it's best to explain our origin, those are the real MVP's...people searching for our answers using available evidences and clues, science does not boast to have gotten it right... It's a wrong idea to stick to what you have been thought to believe without questioning or digging for further truth. That science hasn't gotten the full facts about our origin doesn't make religion the correct version.... So far, science is still the best means to answers of our origin and still work in progress. At first, we knew only of our flat world. Over the years with the help of science, we can now say our world is spherical, we talk of other planets, talk of other solar systems ,galaxies and the universe... We have been able to predict ages of rocks, able to dig underground... Able to prove that human life has been in existence over 200,000 years ago, we have been able to study of genes, medical sciences have improved, while a part of science is tracing our origin, another part is moving us forward to the future to solve our immediate problems and create a more advanced future using same pracrical approach. No one said you originated from tadpoles, but we now know how a sperm and egg looks like, we can now write the empirical formula of compounds and create new compounds, we can now blend materials to produce new materials of better quality... |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by driand(m): 3:19pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:not in the mood for an argument right now but I'll give you something to chill with... When was it that God the father asked a question in heaven and there was a great silence before Christ answered and said "Father send me"....? Was it before the creation or after the law of Moses? And don't forget what prompted that someone should go... And don't forget the comment "my people are dying out of ignorance" With your many claims of being spiritual you should be able to put all that together in one sentence |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by mrZENographer: 3:22pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide: Very simple. God brought them to him. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 3:23pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz: Plate tectonics is an ongoing phenomenon that is going on as we speak. I have not implied the drifts alone are responsible for spreading of animals. I only said it is a factor that creates or encourages drastic differentiations as in the case of Mauritius or the case of tropical fossils being found on rock in temperate waters of the British Isles. Time is a lot in all this conversation. The last Ice age could easily be postulated to be Noah's flood event, and it happened 22,000 years ago, not millions of years ago. Further, in the perspective of special Relativity, our current concepts of time and dating are questionable. For example, the universe is expanding, meaning the orbits are larger. More importantly, the moon has been slowing down the earth. If Einsteins theory on time and velocity is correct, I can suppose that the earths velocity around the sun could not have always been the same. That also means that time experience of people on earth in the past differs from time experience now. So time itself is a variable in all this discussions. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by KendrickAyomide: 3:23pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
mrZENographer:Stupidest reply ever |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by ArchAngelos999: 3:23pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
driand: your idea is based on hearsay, you won't find such scene in the Bible. reference it if you can. even if it were to be true, which it isn't, it doesn't negate the fact that God foreknew it what does people dying out of ignorance have to do with this matter? |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:27pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
bixton: Excuse me, so if I cant tell you, then that makes your version right.....? You don't know your dad and I present to you a Japanese man as your dad, you just accept because u don't know who your dad is..... You don't have to gainsay my argument, stop the red herring and scrutinize the stories that have been blindly sold to you |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 3:28pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
realmindz: I thought as much that would be your response. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:33pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
GerogeI: I've replied you with a break down of the time being less than 8k years.. The expansion of the universe resulting in velocity difference, distances, time relativity... Etc, these factors don't make significant impacts in millons of years...so it's safe to say those are negligible factors considering events that happen even in the last 20 thousand years... We can dispense with them. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 3:34pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
bixton:Simple and straight forward.... Prove what you are selling |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by mrZENographer: 3:36pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
KendrickAyomide: Elijah decreed famine for 3 and half years God told Elijah to hide himself from King Ahab in the Brook by Jordan and said, I have commanded the Ravens to give you food day and night. God sent Ravens to feed Elijah day and night. 1 Kings 17 This also sounds foolish to you? |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by alBHAGDADI: 3:36pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
driand: That was Isaiah who answered, not Jesus Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 3:49pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
bixton: Are u joking or what, when they talk of the sky like a window, and four corners of the earth with foundation, what were u thinking.? Or separating the firmament from the earth, the upper region called heaven and lower part called Earth. Or somebody telling the sun to stand still as if the sun revolves round the earth. The popular belief that time was that the earth was flat and center of the universe until one man came and said otherwise and you christians killed him for heresy. Don't you know this? |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by grrr: 3:58pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Lordave: Thats is why God is great! The same God that hardened the heart of Pharaoh because of Israelites was the same God that destroyed them when they disobeyed Him and exalted other Gods above Him. You see when it comes to God Almighty whom I serve. He does as He pleases and no one can take that away from Him. His greatness or how He does cant be questioned cos He owes no man explanation for what He does. He knows all things and knows the end from the beginning |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by grrr: 4:03pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Barrywest: May the fire never be quenched! Amen |
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by grrr: 4:11pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
Tejiriseth: Let them watch biblical evidences on youtube, I bet they will believe. I have watched many videos of excavations by Archeologists which showed that these sites existed And not only that, I have also experienced Jesus and seen the hand of God in situations to know that the Holy bible is real! 1 Like 1 Share |
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