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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Isoduwa(m): 1:13am On Jan 04, 2020
Stay in your country and build your state

Better days are coming


All the bad leaders will die before 2023

Then Nigerian will be great again

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by damzy88: 1:16am On Jan 04, 2020
madridsta007:


“You sound so certain”. Thanks, there’s a reason why I am “so certain”. Can’t state it here.

There are successful and well mannered black ladies in the West. However, being “well-mannered” as defined by the West is different from being “well-mannered” as defined by a “homegrown Nigerian man”.

Those adjectives that I’ve put in quotations are important.

A homegrown Nigerian man expects his black lady to love him and their kids, cook in the home, be homely to his friends and family, etc. A well-mannered Nigerian lady brought up in Nigeria is likely to provide this. However, the “well-mannered” black lady whose growth has been in the West does not think like this. Hardly. Divorce, disrespect, “alone time”, etc, are norms you have to deal with. Unless you want to deceive yourself, that’s just how it is.

And no one should blame them. They are only blacks by skin colour. Anything else, they are not blacks.

It’s up to you. But these are the risks. Well-mannered Nigerian brought up ladies have their own risks too; but the risks on their side are less.
Other nationalities and races are good too; but we are talking about the “homegrown Nigerian man”, who wants to probably eat Eba and egusi and not salad and tomatoes for lunch. The “homegrown Nigerian man” will want to scold his child for misbehaving; the woman will want to “tell the child off”.

Can you deal with these?
Homegrown Nigerian men, can’t deal. Unless they want to lie to themselves. They will pretend and wish they married differently.

Your thoughts are so valid. wink

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Unrated900(m): 1:20am On Jan 04, 2020
msmon:
The advantage of entering as a single is that you can date a white girl, impregnate her and get a green passport. All will be history



Just like that!!!!!

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Veryfoolishboy: 1:25am On Jan 04, 2020
msmon:
The advantage of entering as a single is that you can date a white girl, impregnate her and get a green passport. All will be history
woooooooooooow I think I have to work harder
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Nobody: 1:35am On Jan 04, 2020
cococandy:
The questions is unclear:

You’re married wanting to pretend you’re a single person?

Or you’re single wondering if you should get married before leaving?

In any case, it’s relative .


please use my own case for instance , please advice me base of this.

I'm babydaddy still considering if I should marry my baby mama or not because

1. My baby mama is a bag or trouble , always hot headed , I have waited to see if she's going to change but now there is no sign in sight that this lady will ever change , she wasnt like this before, she became wild after I brought her to Asokoro Mansion, Abuja from Aba

2. we have a son together and I will love to bring my son to Canada or America in the future if I'm able to travel now, I want a situation where I wont be accused of lying on my passport, I want to make things plain

3 . this is why I'm yet to apply for a passport because I'm confused at this junction on either if I should apply for my Nigerian passport as a married man or as a single man because I have taken the baby mama from Aba to Abuja thinking it's better we live together as one but the baby mama is causing me a lot of trouble arguing over petty stuffs , causing me headache , she feel less consign about the house and would never take advice , so I'm thinking of dumping her and no longer continue with her in the future because she keep slowing me down , I dont need bad energy but I want a better life my son

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Beautyaddy: 1:48am On Jan 04, 2020
XaintJoel20:
Happy New year House.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of entering the USA as a married man as against entering as a single?

What are the opportunities for being a married person and being single in the USA?

Which is better?

Thanks.

Hmmm...If you're entering the US or Europe with an immigrant visa(green card) or in the case of Europe(resident permit) it'll be more advisable to go as a married man but if you're going to the US or Europe on a visiting visa(temporary visa) then it will be more advisable to enter either Countries as a single man.

At least it will give you more opportunities to get your permanent status easily by getting married to a Citizen to get your green card or legal status very fast.
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Beautyaddy: 1:54am On Jan 04, 2020
womenareapes:
all I can said to you, don't carry your Nigeria wife to America! I repeat!

Dont try carrying your Nigeria wife to America!

Huh ...And why is that?

Any man that thinks like the above highlighted statement has Very Serious Low and Insecured Esteem.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by biggie73(m): 1:56am On Jan 04, 2020
XaintJoel20:
Happy New year House.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of entering the USA as a married man as against entering as a single?

What are the opportunities for being a married person and being single in the USA? ....single....

Which is better?

Thanks.
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by MrFly(m): 2:08am On Jan 04, 2020
na divorcee na im sure pass
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Enemyofpeace: 2:12am On Jan 04, 2020
Boat of them are very good, it all depends on four site and how ambition you are.

mynd44 what you are doing to me is not good o, you are banning me because you dey jealous me and dominique. Continue you hear?
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Okpotud(m): 2:18am On Jan 04, 2020
grin
bukkysam:
No be US embassy website be this o. This is nairaland full of funny and crazy people. May God send sensible people to comment here


I wish you all the best baba mi
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Enemyofpeace: 2:20am On Jan 04, 2020
payperpost:



please use my own case for instance , please advice me base of this.

I'm babydaddy still considering if I should marry my baby mama or not because

1. My baby mama is a bag or trouble , always hot headed , I have waited to see if she's going to change but now there is no sign in sight that this lady will ever change , she wasnt like this before, she became wild after I brought her to Asokoro Mansion, Abuja from Aba

2. we have a son together and I will love to bring my son to Canada or America in the future if I'm able to travel now, I want a situation where I wont be accused of lying on my passport, I want to make things plain

3 . this is why I'm yet to apply for a passport because I'm confused at this junction on either if he should apply for my Nigerian passport as a married man or as a single man because I have taken the baby mama from Aba to Abuja thinking it's better we live together as one but the baby mama is causing me a lot of trouble arguing over petty stuffs , causing me headache , she feel less consign about the house and would never take advice , so I'm thinking of dumping her and no longer continue with her in the future because she keep slowing me down , I dont need bad energy but I want a better life my son
that she is your baby nama does not in anyway make her your legal wife except you have paid her dowry and all other things expected of you in getting married to a lady. From your story I will advice you to forget about that lady and see yourself as a single man, fill the form as a single man. If you make the mistake of carrying that lady to America or Canada that I know, sorry go be you middle name, what she is doing to you now will be a child's play, compared to what she will do to you in America or Canada. One day you will remember and appreciate this my advice.


dominique, lalasticlala, ishilove and mynd44 you people should unban my favourite moniker o.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by nlPoster: 2:21am On Jan 04, 2020
Stay in Nigeria and be happy they wont hear.

But nooooo it's either America/Europe or bust.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by lordally(m): 2:26am On Jan 04, 2020
chigoizie7:
Unless you are going with your wife. Otherwise go as a single guy. Even when you are going with your wife , make sure that she can work as well:


At the end of the day, it all boils down to what you are going to America or Europe to do.

As for me, I am only out here to make money with my youthful strength, no amount of money is ever enough, but we can make enough to invest at home based on exchange rates. That is my own aim of leaving naija. I can decide to eat once or twice a day, I can decide to be sharing a room with someone so that I can save more In terms of rent and other things. Just to save some change, but you can’t do all that when you have your family with you.

It is a lot easier as you do not also have much responsibilities as a single guy. You also know that in those who years when you are struggling to get your papers, that you are also working, invest, build something in naija. Maybe some houses for rents. By the time you get your papers fully ready to return to marry, you will have something to show for it. Even when you still want to remain in the abroad with your family, you can easily call money from your investments in naija and live at least a good life. As a married man, except that your wife is working also in naija while you travel. You can’t make much. That money you will be sending for their upkeep would be useful as it will be going to investments instead of consumptions.

But if your plan is to relocate and live abroad forever, then you can go with your family, but it still makes sense for you to atleast stand a little on your own in a foreign land before bringing a second or third party.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Enemyofpeace: 2:30am On Jan 04, 2020
Isoduwa:
Stay in your country and build your state

Better days are coming


All the bad leaders will die before 2023

Then Nigerian will be great again
yinmu
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by lordally(m): 2:32am On Jan 04, 2020
fairfora:
Entering as single is farrrrr better. I entered as a single guy in my late 20s, almost 15 years ago. I benefited a lot as a single guy whole schooling and working because I did not have any responsibilities...no wife or children to cater for and I was able to think straight without a divided attention.

A few years later, my close friend also entered though as a non immigrant visa holder and also as a single guy. He claimed asylum which was later granted. He enrolled in a nursing school and later qualified as a nurse. He then came to Nigeria to marry his long term friend.

If you enter as a married man, things wouldn't be as easy as you think especially if you're not entering as an immigrant. Your kids would be enrolled in school to enjoy free education yes! But there are side payments too which you must bear. Remember you do not have a resident permit so odd jobs are inevitable. Eating from hands to mouth too would be the norm.

If you want to relocate, it's better you do as an immigrant if you hold an H-1B , entering with an NIV wouldn't be a good move bro

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Nobody: 2:48am On Jan 04, 2020
The best is to enter as a polygamist with all your wives.
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by lordally(m): 2:49am On Jan 04, 2020
mrsirdam:

From experience, it's easier moving as a single guy but if both of you have the travel documents, you don't need to wait, you should both leave together
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by lordally(m): 2:52am On Jan 04, 2020
Beautyaddy:


Hmmm...If you're entering the US or Europe with an immigrant visa(green card) or in the case of Europe(resident permit) it'll be more advisable to go as a married man but if you're going to the US or Europe on a visiting visa(temporary visa) then it will be more advisable to enter either Countries as a single man.

At least it will give you more opportunities to get your permanent status easily by getting married to a Citizen to get your green card or legal status very fast.

Beautyaddy ...Nice lady
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by cydophobia(m): 2:52am On Jan 04, 2020
PM me for Shengen visa.

lordally:


Help a brother move in as a single Guy...if na money that one no be problem...na to get d visa be the ish!! Can u help out?

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by lordally(m): 2:55am On Jan 04, 2020
cydophobia:
PM me for Shengen visa.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by lordally(m): 2:58am On Jan 04, 2020
cydophobia:
PM me for Shengen visa.

Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Royalfurnitures: 3:37am On Jan 04, 2020
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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by wickyyolo: 3:47am On Jan 04, 2020
Edusouls:
No go find work or something to make your life useful in Nigeria, guy travelling to USA nowadays is a total waste of time and resources ask people wey dey there for donkey years..

Don’t discourage them. Seeing is believing

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by guru90: 4:53am On Jan 04, 2020
With which kinda Visa type?

U better u port to Germany or Australia with your family than using Usa as ur option. because they will delay u, waste ur resources then ur eyes go open by force.

Since Trump became their president, it is so hard to enter Usa as easy....

Change another country to port.....
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by midnighter(f): 5:00am On Jan 04, 2020
madridsta007:


There are successful and well mannered black ladies in the West. However, being “well-mannered” as defined by the West is different from being “well-mannered” as defined by a “homegrown Nigerian man”.

A homegrown Nigerian man expects his black lady to love him and their kids, cook in the home, be homely to his friends and family, etc. A well-mannered Nigerian lady brought up in Nigeria is likely to provide this. However, the “well-mannered” black lady whose growth has been in the West does not think like this. Hardly. Divorce, disrespect, “alone time”, etc, are norms you have to deal with. Unless you want to deceive yourself, that’s just how it is.

It’s up to you. But these are the risks. Well-mannered Nigerian brought up ladies have their own risks too; but the risks on their side are less.
Other nationalities and races are good too; but we are talking about the “homegrown Nigerian man”, who wants to probably eat Eba and egusi and not salad and tomatoes for lunch. The “homegrown Nigerian man” will want to scold his child for misbehaving; the woman will want to “tell the child off”.

Can you deal with these?
Homegrown Nigerian men, can’t deal. Unless they want to lie to themselves. They will pretend and wish they married differently.

cheesy No.

If you go there and carry a peasant woman who grew up with some kind of inveterate ideology and refuses to accommodate yours, that does not make the idea of marrying a foreigner or foreign-born lady totally out of the question.

Are "scolding" and "telling [them] off" not one and the same

A foreign woman who is actually interested would love to cook all those things you mentioned, come back with you and more.

I have such women as in-laws and they cant act like this. It depends on the persons orientation, background and also how you presented yourself in the first instance.

Some men will deliberately pretend and downplay their cultural perspective in the relationship so that they wont be sounding like "bushman". Pretending they like tomato salad and roast potato cheesy instead of telling the woman what it is they want. Later on they will begin to complain

The kind of woman you are describing is a narrow-minded or culturally restricted working or lower-middle class who was never interested in embracing your side of the story in the first place and felt that they were helping you out by marrying you. Those ones who will "absorb" and colonise one into their own family because of the way he presented himself.

When asked about Nigeria he will say "Mtchew, dont talk to me about that stupid country!" So how does he expect the person to be seeing him as anything other that an object of pity?

At least the part about "disrespect" is what I can understand because culturally, we have different ideas about what constitutes "respect" and at times we espouse some particularly misogynistic elements which would be difficult for an outsider (as it is for most of us insiders) to tolerate. A so-called "homegrown Nigerian lady" is somewhat conditioned more to accept certain realities, even if they should not be.

But generally what you wrote does not obtain for all foreign women, especially culturally sensitive ones. I can tell by the way youre describing it, the type of person you ran into lmao.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by bigfrancis21: 5:02am On Jan 04, 2020
XaintJoel20:
Happy New year House.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of entering the USA as a married man as against entering as a single?

What are the opportunities for being a married person and being single in the USA?

Which is better?

Thanks.

Single is much way better, it is way easier to obtain your papers than if you were married.
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by linearity: 5:13am On Jan 04, 2020
Single is far better, if you are venturing into a new environment and making changes.....at least, it is easier to manage and adapt easily with the new system......If you are not yet married, it is better you put it off first....if you are married, it is better you leave your wife behind for the time being.

It is easier to get visa into Europe than the US, but more easier to live under the radar in US than in Europe.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by 360command: 5:30am On Jan 04, 2020
Omo if u get d money you fit do am in both ways.
If u kno say ballary dey, carry your family come.
The moment you land (yankaz) try apply for asylum sharply. Find betta format wey u go use for your asylum mata and make sure say you get proof .

Once u don apply and dem approve d first stage, dem go kon give u paper wey u fit work. Na dat time u go kon dey settle kon begin work and dey arrange yourself. After a few year depends na there court go kon call u make dem hear your case.


If u wan do d other level base on marriage, u fit do am but make I tell you truth . Dem go Bulala your wife, so u need come single.

Merci mon frere
Chao chao

Ps: I don give you d koko , u just need little research.

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Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by OgenemaroKessy(m): 5:34am On Jan 04, 2020
Jestin:
Oga you should go as single and after you settle down, come and take ur wife. It is not easy to travel as couple except ur owo long

Period. Pay attention & listen.
Question answered.
Re: Entering USA Or Europe As A Married Man Or Single. Which Is Better? by Liveagain: 5:37am On Jan 04, 2020
payperpost:



please use my own case for instance , please advice me base of this.

I'm babydaddy still considering if I should marry my baby mama or not because

1. My baby mama is a bag or trouble , always hot headed , I have waited to see if she's going to change but now there is no sign in sight that this lady will ever change , she wasnt like this before, she became wild after I brought her to Asokoro Mansion, Abuja from Aba

2. we have a son together and I will love to bring my son to Canada or America in the future if I'm able to travel now, I want a situation where I wont be accused of lying on my passport, I want to make things plain

3 . this is why I'm yet to apply for a passport because I'm confused at this junction on either if he should apply for my Nigerian passport as a married man or as a single man because I have taken the baby mama from Aba to Abuja thinking it's better we live together as one but the baby mama is causing me a lot of trouble arguing over petty stuffs , causing me headache , she feel less consign about the house and would never take advice , so I'm thinking of dumping her and no longer continue with her in the future because she keep slowing me down , I dont need bad energy but I want a better life my son
You did not marry her properly. The embassy will request for documents to proof that you marry her. So to them you are single

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