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Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Hermes119: 9:18pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
humnsikan: Well u didn't sound like u were referring to the use of HCQ for coronavirus as am off label therapy,it was more like it was already proven to be safe and efficacious since Trump and a few others have used it as you said. I'm concerned about ur position on the woman's claim especially because u are a pharmacist going by what u said and ur comment here would be or rather should be an authority,others may speak the way they like no one holds them accountable but ur opinion counts and when someone spreads the world it would sound like "......a pharmacist said u can use hydroxychloroquine for cornavirus treatment" . As much as everyone out there I want a cure to be found as soon as possible,I have parents and loved who have comorbidities I have lost a person close to a friend to this disease who knows,tomorrow it could be a direct relative so it would be unreasonable not to wish for her claim not to be true,however any claim of a curative or palliative therapy has to be demonstrated. In this case trials have been conducted on Hydroxychloroquine an it has been ruled out as an alternative especially considering the side effects and now this woman comes up to lay these claims,I'm not saying she is wrong but she has a burden to proof what she has claimed and if I were to pick a side I would say she is insincere or ignorant considering that trials have been made by several credible bodies,except if you claim that all these bodies have some sinister intentions. The summary is this,I'm concerned that you are in a haste to take sides when sufficient evidence is not available and the one which is to be held most credible is against the claim. You are a pharmacist u have a duty to stand against the misuse and abuse of drugs and also hesitation to administer drugs that would be of benefit to the patient. I hope you do this without bias or subjective feelings and opinion,until a drug is "sufficiently" proven to be of benefit for use in a particular condition be it a novel molecule or a product of drug repurposing I don't think its wise for u to take a definitive position. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:20pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
bezimo: Like I said, you're obviously a Trumptard buffoon and obviously too far gone, so there's no productive discourse to be had here. 2 Likes |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Hermes119: 9:21pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
salford1:Oga there is such a thing as OTC,POM and CD You can't get every drug you want without a doctors prescription Drugs are chemicals and they have the potential to harm you and probably kill you if taken wrongly or under wrong circumstances amid other challenges If not that Nigeria is the way it is u think u can get ampiclox so easily |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Emilo: If those who support Trump are not crazy and gagas, then Buhari's supporters deserves a fair deal too... You must be crazier any time you oppose Buhari's supporters. Zombies are identical! So glaring. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by KingWesley: 9:25pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
For to must have been able to come to that conclusion she obviously must have done some intense research. She is a certified and lincensed practitioner for christ sake Lets just hope she is Right |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by BlindedIrony(m): 9:26pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Damn! They just had to have a professional black disgraced herself. Just look at how the other doctors stood silently and watched as their black colleague ranted on like a clueless idiot. She may be a doctor, but her practice is obviously limited since she has no idea what is going on. What do you expect from a Nigerian-trained doctor that moved to the US?? What an incompetent brat! This is why we have 4,000,000 damn infected Americans. And, we are still counting our losses. Y'all are not making our jobs around the world easy with this nonsense. One of my girlfriend's friends caught the corona. She is dying. Just last week, we had a video call with her. She is confined in her house with oxygen tanks. She CANNOT breathe without artificial respiration. Her sons had to go away, so they cannot get it. Also, I know a woman that used to deliver food to us at the hospital. She got corona and she died within a week! Her husband was not even allowed to see her due to a high risk of infection. For the so-called illiterate experts that are out there- people who think they know it all because of an out-dated medical education, hydroxychloroquine CANNOT kill a virus. IT IS MEANT FOR THE PROTIST GROUP. A protist is a microscopic organism that can cause a disease when it invades the body. A notable example is Plasmodium- which is responsible for MALARIA. Plasmodium is a parasite. It is its biological byproduct that causes malaria. Unlike plasmodium, a virus is NOT AN ORGANISM. It is a strand of RNA or DNA wrapped in a protein shealth. What does it mean? It means that once a virus finds its way to your body. Its outer protein coat has spikes that are codes. If its code matches the cellular code, your cells are tricked into accepting it thinking it is one of them. Once the virus goes into your cells, it tries to use your cell's chromosomes to replicate exact copies of itself. It will keep doing this, until your cells cannot hold it anymore. So your cells lyse themselves due to pressure to release the virus- meaning they burst. A notable example is the mouth sores (Herpes Virus). This is why cold sores are very infectious. It happens all the time too for infected people! Now, malaria drugs are ineffective against viruses. This is because viruses cannot be knocked out by anti-malarial drugs, so that the virus can be eaten by your own body soldiers (white blood cells like phagocytes, T-Cells and B-Cells and Macrophages). A virus is a genetic code that becomes active inside your body. So why exactly are you looking to knock out with Malaria drugs and zinc?? The reason why anti-malaria works against Plasmodium is because they either numb them for the white blood cells to attack overwhelmingly, or they kill Plasmodium. Either way, Plasmodium will not be able to use its enzymes to get into cells in order to feed. Compare to Plasmodium, viruses are so small that Plasmodium will not even see them , if they lived in a world together! I am angry that they had this black doctor say these things, when everyone in second year medical school knows that there are ONLY TWO ways of killing viruses in the body. First, viruses are killed in the body through vaccines(an antigen containing weak viruses) injected into the body. When the white blood cells see them, they can attack them successfully. When the virus are eaten, the phagocytes will regurgitate pieces of the virus to the B-Cells and T-Cells. These cells store the bits of the virus, so they can learn to recognize the virus entry again. And, use the strategy the phagocytes used for successful viral elimination. If you do not believe me, ready any advanced medical microbiology textbook or GOOGLE. The second way of killing virus is to stop their cycles. Viruses have cycles. From cell entry to cell lysis. Once anti-viral medication messes up one of the cycles, a whole generation can be wiped off due their inability to continue the cycles. The second way does not always work, because some viruses can recode their protein shells to match the cells. So, your white bloods cannot see them in the blood stream because they blend as body cells and white blood cells only attack foreign antigens (except in extremely rare cases like cancer and others). Also, anti-viral medication cannot work because the viruses are so smaller than cells that they can hide in your cell nucleus. There is no way a drug can reach them or even white blood cells. White blood cells do not even go into cells to attack! They have to get the virus before it goes into the cells. Sometimes, a cell has to die early by bursting to send invasion signals to other cells who will create little gaps for white bloods to get in and attack whatever was released. Besides this, anti-viral medications rarely attack the strong protein coat of viruses. That is why cold sores, hepatitis A B C , HPV, HIV and others do not have anti-viral cure. Rather Hepatitis and HPV have some sorta vaccines to introduce weak viruses that your body can take care of and store the memory of attack for next viral invasion. Anyways, enough of microbiology. Now, it takes a fool to say COVID is not real. It is as real as you. And, it has come to stay like HIV and others. Remember HIV killed millions during its early stages until it was regulated? Still no cure today. There are actually no viral cure. Only vaccines help boost our body soldiers- the white blood cells. That is why HIV first kills off your white blood cells, before cell entry. So, protect yourself. Wear masks. Just because a person is a doctor does not mean they have all the answers. Medical doctors ARE NOT research scientists. If scientists say to wash hands regularly, wear mask and stay six feet, just shut your trap and do it. Stop being selfish. Stop spreading fake news with no evidence. And Good God, stop being an instrument of mass infection! It is as simple as that. Geez! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by mentored: 9:30pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Righteousness89: 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by fortran12: 9:30pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
chris51:She may have double citizenship |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
The woman should have just kept quiet and carried treating people, the crooked people behind the all the lies about these drugs not been effective are probarbly already taking the medecines to cure and save themselves. they are trying so hard to stop Trump from winning, including letting ordinary Americans die. but Trump will still win, Joe biden has dementia, he is also a racist. Trump 2020. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by mentored: 9:37pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
locosvatos: My dear Why should we be quoting somebody with satanMoniker If I say You and your family to the 1 million generation are a disgrace now, you go dey vex. Anyways I won’t say it. Talking in the rubbish. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Hermes119: 9:38pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
incogni2o:There is such a thing as risk benefit ratio,the dose that may be needed to obtain a considerable effect for use in coronavirus may be quite high and considering that that would expose the patient to more side effects the riskay outweigh the benefits especially if the benefit is not really high. Let me give u the benefit of doubt and assume that HCQ is effective in treatment of coronavirus. From my knowledge on how HCQ works it can only control the symptoms such as inflammation, now the virus may be defeated by the immune system with time and then it would be said that HCQ cured coronavirus. But consider that the immune system played a larger role maybe 80%,now HCQ with all its side effect contributed just 20%,if the immunity was low u wouldn't get a substantial effect with HCQ without exposing the patient to a toxic dose. This is just an instance of one of the factors that maybe discredit the use of HCQ from treatment of coronavirus and I didn't even have to carry out a research,from my knowledge in pharmacy and drugs I know this is predictable,now consider what those carrying out the research must have encountered for them to discredit it even after the President declared it efficacious or u think they wouldn't have been more considerate not to embarrass the president and just recommended it for management of symptoms. There is more than meets the eye,except u do a research urself my advice is to listen to constituted authority,yes they are humans and of course they can be deceptive but these authority have over the years proven that they are efficacious, this woman hasn't proven anything I can't take her word over the FDA and other health regulatory agencies which have more qualified professionals but if u think rebelling against recognized and research institutions is the way to go maybe u should start from ignoring all the WHO recommend treatment modalities when next you buy your antimalarials take all the tablets at a go or maybe just one tablet and discard the rest. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by GentleA(m): 9:39pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
I seriously don't understand how a Doctor could come out to lie in the open.. ... I smell foul play! If social media platforms could delete that video, it must be that some unknown forces are fighting against the possibility of a cure |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Obzerfapex(m): 9:44pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
If it is a lie then why did they swiftly delete the video Because the are trying to hide something.... simple |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by petra1(m): 9:52pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
[quote author=veeshock post=92210117] Please learn to seperate facts from fiction, of the 300 she treated how many had serious underlying diseases?[/qoute] didn't you listen to her say it ? Do you even know what percentage of people die of covid and how many recover without any treatment? Thats how madagascar went about scamming people with their so-called covik organics ir whatever. And so? Does that take away the fact that she's knows what shes talking about. She has results to prove it. Does bill gate have ? Would you rather listen to a computer man or a doctor . |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by MrNipplesLover(m): 9:52pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
I just pray they don't go behind and do the woman's work. cos, I don't trust these people. make dem come delete the video in my head nah. evil people. 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by amaridigital(m): 10:02pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
humnsikan: The big pharma companies are less concerned about anything else but money. The media always support them due to their "scientists are always right, big pharma drugs are always the solution " sort of mentality. That woman was telling the truth. The big pharma companies stands to make billions of $£€ from a new drug or vaccine. They will do everything to silence that woman. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
MrSensor: The guy is a psycho. The person he quotes all the time doesn't make the mistakes he says he makes. Its out of hatred for the guy and his message. Anything about Jesus turns their heads upside down. 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Hermes119: 10:04pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
KingWesley: Going by what she said she treated 300 people right ? Do you know how many drugs have been recalled from the market despite being effectively used to cure thousands of people ? Her sampling size is too small that is if she is truthful anyways Left for me I wish we can find a cure as soon as possible but I'm worried that people are willing to believe whatever suits their fantasy its more like they have a hole already and they are waiting for something that can fit in If I were to advice anyone coming up with a vaccine I would ask them to make sure they test it well enough to certify its safe before someone would get a normal hypersensitivity reaction and conspiracy theorist would come out again with all their bullcrap. Many people most have overdosed on CQ nobody would talk but wait till a person suffers a mild fever after taking the vaccine if it inventually comes out and watch the reaction of a lot of people. People believe what they like and most times what they want to be the truth is not the truth |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Nobody: 10:05pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
womenareapes: See them attacking him as if he has killed their father. One good thing is, the guy no get their time. That makes it cool. 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Barney001: 10:10pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Righteousness89:Shut the fvck up...
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Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Hermes119: 10:18pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Obzerfapex:Not that I have a problem with u but unfortunately this is the way most People think One opinion comes into ur head and bingo that's the right one There are other reasons that could warrant them removing the video,like to prevent the spread of falsehood . If u developed an app I'm sure u wouldn't want ur invention to be a medium that would be used to cause harm to people's lives |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by alimaa: 10:22pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Dotherightthing:A comma is not needed after "post" since the next word "and" is a conjunction. 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
1TRUEEGOD: You are a sick unreasonable idiot. Senseless guys like you type in Caps because the demons residing in your sick rotten brain are impatient to go from cap to low. Did the guy you are barking at insult you or your sick family? Why are you guys just full of hate for people for their right to air their opinion? Whether a Muslim, A pagan, a Christian or an Atheist everyone has the right to their opinion without any antagonisms. Has Seun banned people from talking from their religious point of view on this forum As Seun who is the CEO of Nairaland be atheist reach. I never see where the guy insult anyone for their religion. Leave and let live is the rule of life. Righteousness89 has not told or forbidden anyone to worship their gods. So, why hulling insult on the guy when he has not insulted you. You are mad! Not you alone, but you and your likes. Nonsense! 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Chucks234: 10:23pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Afam4eva: She didnt say she has a cure. Learn to read. |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Chucks234: 10:24pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
[quote author=Hermes119 post=92214201] Not that I have a problem with u but unfortunately this is the way most People think One opinion comes into ur head and bingo that's the right one There are other reasons that could warrant them removing the video,like to prevent the spread of falsehood . If u developed an app I'm sure u wouldn't want ur invention to be a medium that would be used to cause harm to people's lives[/quote How is the information false? Please educate me |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by alimaa: 10:26pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Dotherightthing:Stop following the guy up and down. He might be more intelligent than you are. 2 Likes |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by ezechi24(m): 10:30pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
new2012: and who told you aba kyari died of covid 19 |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by Toscarele: 10:31pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Satan66: lame |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by DNA9(m): 10:33pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Satan66: You are the idiat here. There is nothing inside your head. 1 Like |
Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by YemyTemmy: 10:35pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
inforesource: The thing shock CNN nah, so tey dem wan investigate Nigeria version of coro |
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