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Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 7:43am On Aug 12, 2020 |
advocatejare: Moses did not see Allah, He only heard Allah and he was an exception. Just as Jesus has no father. Adam had no parents. Eve had no mother. Others have parents. advocatejare post=92690311 The Angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day which is 50,000 years of our reckoning! No contradiction as the subjects are different! |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 7:46am On Aug 12, 2020 |
advocatejare: Actually there are answers for your contradictions but the thread is for the Biblical narration only! |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 8:09am On Aug 12, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: Jesus didn't die at all. And what he's coming to do is different in Islam and Christianity. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 8:12am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Originakalokalo: Stop all these. Even all the points you wrote there not all Christians agree on it. All the books agree on a given fact but the way the facts are carried out are different! This means the reports are not accurate. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 8:16am On Aug 12, 2020 |
veeshock: How do we know what's inspiration and what is dictation in the Bible? A large portion of the NT are allegedely letters of Paul. As for the Qur'an you can open a thread and mention me. This is strictly biblical. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by advocatejare(m): 8:27am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian:So you have suddenly gone blind, the word there is speak not see now go and read it again and tell see how Allah contradicted himself. Antichristian still on the matter. Does Allah speak directly with people? No: It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, Quran 42:51 Yes, to Moses: "Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- and to Moses Allah spoke direct" Quran 4:164 In secondary school you were thought about metaphor. The use of "as" or "like" points to this.So Allah could not be specific, he couldn't stick to either 50 thousand or 1000 years? |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by advocatejare(m): 8:30am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: Of course, there are answers not found in the Quran itself but answers given by those who tried to do damage control for Allah, those smarter than Allah. Let's see those answers na and burst their bubbles as usual 1 Like |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Originakalokalo(m): 8:40am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: It is a convenient conclusion for you. For me, I have hope of eternal life. Do you? Jesus made it categorically clear that anyone who does not believe in him is condemned already. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 8:47am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Originakalokalo: Where did Jesus himself said that? |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 9:04am On Aug 12, 2020 |
advocatejare: Why didn't you state the first verse fully? Why are you so adept in telling liars like this? And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise. Quran 42:51 And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech. Quran 4:164 advocatejare: advocatejare post=92690311 The Angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day which is 50,000 years of our reckoning! No contradiction as the subjects are different! |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Ndipe(m): 9:23am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Yet, The Holy Bible is the bestseller of all bestsellers. Who can top that? That speaks volumes on the authenticity of The Good Book as the Holy Bible is commonly referred to, inspite of your criticism. kingxsamz: |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by kingxsamz(m): 9:26am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Ndipe:The quran sells too and other religious books also. Doesn't mean anything. You can lie to yourself all you want, still doesn't mean anything. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Originakalokalo(m): 9:38am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: John 8 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²³ And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. ²⁴ I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” Simple and clear. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Ndipe(m): 9:47am On Aug 12, 2020 |
The Holy Bible is the bestselling Book in the world. Check Guinness Book of Records. kingxsamz: |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by kingxsamz(m): 9:58am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Ndipe: Yeah it is, no doubt about that. Starwars is also one of the best selling films too. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by sagenaija: 10:04am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: Shouting 'Contradictions!' does not prove anything. Merely claiming to have proved a point doesn't make it so either. You need to be able to clearly show or explain the contradictions. Unfortunately you've not been able to do that. You've not been able to refute any of the points presented here. What I see is that you just want to engage in frivolity. You only intended to pacify yourself with the idea that if the Bible has contradictions then it is ok for the Koran to have its discrepancies. Taking such a stance means that you are not really seeking the truth. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 10:09am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Originakalokalo: Can you state the context of this verses? |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Originakalokalo(m): 10:11am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: You will die in your sins if you don't believe that he is the Messiah that took away your sins. You are already condemned, you don't have to wait till you die. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 10:29am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Originakalokalo: Is there a verse where Jesus said categorically he would take away anyone's sin? I am not condemned! Na u condemn yourself. When a man came to Jesus in Matthew and asked how will he get eternal life, why didn't Jesus tell him he will die in his sins if he doesn't believe that he will die for him? Jesus emphasised following the commandments and then following him after selling all his properties and giving it to the poor! |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 10:31am On Aug 12, 2020 |
sagenaija: As I have reiterated several times here, the thread is about the OP and Christianity. If you don't have anything tangible to post then stop my mention. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Originakalokalo(m): 10:33am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: From the previous reply, he said....you will die in your sins if you don't believe in me. What does that mean? If you believe in me, your sins will be forgiven......that means he is taking the sins away.... Take a look at this also, Matthew 26 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²⁶ And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. ²⁷ And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; ²⁸ For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Shed for many for the remission of sins. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 10:47am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Originakalokalo: So the bread they ate was Jesus' body? And the wine they drank was Jesus' blood? And the the bread and wine is the blood which is shed for the sins of many right? What a subtle way to call the disciples cannibals! And did Judas too ate the body & blood of Jesus too? |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by sagenaija: 11:20am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian:I know that comprehension is difficult for many of you because all you're taught is to cram the Koran into your heads. So, when it comes to analysing issues you are lost. What I was very simply saying is that you have not been able to refute any of the responses to what you copied and pasted. All we see you do here is dart from one thing to another. When you have been refuted, instead of admitting it, you just present something else, hoping that that will shift the focus away from the real issues. Where are the contradictions in what you posted? We haven't seen it. And you've been unable to clearly explain anything. You end up showing us that there's really no integrity in Islam. You can engage in any deceptive tactic as long as it gets you what you want. To you the end justifies the means. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Originakalokalo(m): 11:30am On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: That was symbolic. He was referring to his death and the cleansing power of his blood. Some of you claim you believe in him.... Jesus mentioned that any who believes in him should get baptized and follow his teachings... You don't believe in him if this is not done. We are done here. Peace |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Image123(m): 11:59am On Aug 12, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Even your parents have not heard of Star Wars before. Be real with facts. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by kingxsamz(m): 12:10pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Image123: Yeah many villages in China don't know about the bible also, same with many distant tribes around the world. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by Image123(m): 12:14pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
kingxsamz: But they know Star Wars, right? Or you think best selling means everybody has it? As usual you missed the point, your comparison was moronic. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by kingxsamz(m): 1:02pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Image123: clown. Your brother in the lord said it was the bestselling Book na. And I said same with star wars. And same with Harry Potter. And you're telling me my parents haven't heard or seen star wars. And I'm telling you that many villages in China haven't heard about the bible, or seen one. Talk more of reading it. Who's talking about owning one here? Clown. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 3:20pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Originakalokalo: That's your way! Our way of believing in him differs! |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by AntiChristian: 3:27pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
sagenaija: Is it here you want to claim integrity? When you put up a post on Islam and slavery and I did same didn't you run away? I asked you to explain who are the three people Jesus said will tempt Peter and you ran away again! Mr. integrity! Visit the thread and answer the questions you've been running from! https://www.nairaland.com/6022599/slavery-jehovah-yahweh#92237819 |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by sagenaija: 8:36pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian: God back and read my last post. Your answer is there. |
Re: Jesus: Contradictions In Resurrection And Ascension by sagenaija: 8:53pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
AntiChristian:God back and read my last post on this thread. Your answer is there. |
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