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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 2:12pm On Sep 09, 2020
Footstradamus:
Top of the day to the house

Great job from most of the contributors on here, especially the pro's sharing expertise for free.

I was scrolling through old Nairaland building threads and stumbled on a floor plan that really caught my fancy (attached)

I have two questions

firstly can it fit into a 50x100 and still leave moderate space for parking etc

Secondly what would a bungalow like that cost to erect with average finishing, all ceilings POP.
50*100 is equivalent of 15m*30m, if you subtract 12.9m from 15m, you are left with 2.1m, that is 1.05m setback on the sides, which is too small, you might want to consider reducing the master bedroom width so the setback can increase. secondly there should be a door linking the ante room to the lobby so one doesn't have to enter the lounge and dining before accessing the rest of the building. the kitchen has a lot of doors, I'm imagining how cabinets are going to be arranged. you have to close one of the the exit doors so you can atleast achieve an L shaped cabinet. You are going to make use of glass blocks or anyother transparent/translucent material on the store and laundry wall so light can pass through to the lobby, you don't want to be using torchlight to access your bedroom in daytime unless you have 24/7 power or you install solatube on the roof. picture attached below is what 1m setback looks like

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megan1: 2:29pm On Sep 09, 2020
Abolarin91:
Its not possible to sell 18k while the whole world is selling it 35k(×2)! Something is fishy somewhere. Thanks to Mayor anyway
Actually I priced iron door in Abuja from a welder that makes doors and his last price was 17k(for single pan) then for double pan it was 30k. I asked the price in July 2020.

So the price of 18k is possible

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 2:40pm On Sep 09, 2020
Mayor78:

SayDFact has helped with how to estimate perimeter wall. Go to the thread and acquaint yourself with the measurement of blocks and calculations to estimate your own walls, and thank him for his efforts thereafter.
The link is below.

https://www.nairaland.com/5818635/estimating-cost-fencing-6-plots

Thanks Mayor - appreciate; grin grin

@Rerin - oya pick ur calculator and you're good to go

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:44pm On Sep 09, 2020
adanny01:


Even though the density of gravel is higher than sand, when it comes to weight of a volume of each of them, it is highly dependent on moisture content..

Gravel is 2400kg/m³
Sand is 160kg/m³
So for every 1m³, you get

2400kg/m³ x 1m³=2,400kg of gravel
1600kg/m³ x 1m³=1,600kg of sandq

This is supposedly the dry weight. When you consider moisture content, sand absorbs more water and by its closer particle packing, it also retains more water. So in general the, moisture content of sand should be close to twice that of ggravel at the same exposure. The moisture content of gravel becomes lower with higher particle size. So stone dust is heavier than ¼inch which is heavier than ½inch which is heavier than ¾inch and so on.

Lets assume moisture content of sand at 30%, under the same conditions, moisture content of gravel maybe 15%.

So 2400kg of granite is actually
2400+(2400x0.15)
=2400+360
=2740kg

1600kg of sand is actually
1600+(1600x0.3)
=1600+480
=2080kg

At the end, its unlikely that sand will be heavier than gravel except if the granite is of very poor quality.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:49pm On Sep 09, 2020
michilin,

I think you should be able to do this and send down to us in the west.

If you talk to most delivery trucks, they should be able to help deliver this at good figure.
I’ll talk to any of my guys doing that area tho.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:50pm On Sep 09, 2020
n3xt:
michilin,

I think you should be able to do this and send down to us in the west.

If you talk to most delivery trucks, they should be able to help deliver this at good figure.
I’ll talk to any of my guys doing that area tho.
aside this picture,do you have any other pictures of the rail plus the dimensions please
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Footstradamus(m): 2:52pm On Sep 09, 2020
vickzie:
50*100 is equivalent of 15m*30m, if you subtract 12.9m from 15m, you are left with 2.1m, that is 1.05m setback on the sides, which is too small, you might want to consider reducing the master bedroom width so the setback can increase. secondly there should be a door linking the ante room to the lobby so one doesn't have to enter the lounge and dining before accessing the rest of the building. the kitchen has a lot of doors, I'm imagining how cabinets are going to be arranged. you have to close one of the the exit doors so you can atleast achieve an L shaped cabinet. picture attached below is what 1m setback looks like

Thanks bro

I conclude a plot bigger than a 50x100 is more practical if it will be built as drawn.

Wonderful suggestion on the door linking the ante room to the lobby. The kitchen can do without the door leading to the dinning room balcony.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:52pm On Sep 09, 2020
megan1:

Actually I priced iron door in Abuja from a welder that makes doors and his last price was 17k(for single pan) then for double pan it was 30k. I asked the price in July 2020.

So the price of 18k is possible
I tell people to pay me #18,000 so I can make it for them then they can sell at 35,000 at their location. It's the business part I'm talking about. This doors are extremely expensive in some areas and cheaper elsewhere

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:54pm On Sep 09, 2020
Abolarin91:
Its not possible to sell 18k while the whole world is selling it 35k(×2)! Something is fishy somewhere. Thanks to Mayor anyway
please sir where's your location and can you help me make arrangements so I can be supplying these doors. I will really appreciate it.


Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 2:56pm On Sep 09, 2020
HI ALL..

Is anyone starting a foundation soon on a sandfill, waterlogged soil (that requires RAFT foundation).

cool cool cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 3:01pm On Sep 09, 2020
Footstradamus:


Thanks bro

I conclude a plot bigger than a 50x100 is more practical if it will be built as drawn.

Wonderful suggestion on the door linking the ante room to the lobby. The kitchen can do without the door leading to the dinning room balcony.

yeah a bigger plot is required but modifications are always allowed when necessary, if the land has already been acquired, all you need to do is to find out the minimum setback in that area, then you scale down.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 3:16pm On Sep 09, 2020
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by imback(m): 3:57pm On Sep 09, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 4:12pm On Sep 09, 2020
Abolarin91:
Its not possible to sell 18k while the whole world is selling it 35k(×2)! Something is fishy somewhere. Thanks to Mayor anyway

I actually paid 235k for a 30ton of granite last year September... location was Asaba.. they said quarry is at Edo state. The have to pay local government emblem for 20k, transportation etc.

People that I know that purchased 30 ton around that area paid similar price.. was it cheap? Were they trying to drive Benz that quick grin ? Idk but that's what I paid.

How much is 30 tons in your area (as of last year)? That is if you could remember.

I have not purchased granite of recent so I don't know of the current price.


As for the doors, yes I purchased them after 9ja full lock down few months ago and the price was about that range.. I can't find the receipt now but I did the math back then. The price was almost the same as wooden doors.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 4:17pm On Sep 09, 2020
imback:
Is this aluminium roofing quote valid for a 1 story 4 flats; 2 up, 2 down?

Note, this is just roofing. Woodwork has been done.

What is the size of the roof in metres square?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 4:20pm On Sep 09, 2020
Badgers14:


I actually paid 235k for a 30ton of granite last year September... location was Asaba.. they said quarry is at Edo state. The have to pay local government emblem for 20k, transportation etc.

People that I know that purchased 30 ton around that area paid similar price.. was it cheap? Were they trying to drive Benz that quick grin ? Idk but that's what I paid.

How much is 30 tons in your area (as of last year)? That is if you could remember.

I have not purchased granite of recent so I don't know of the current price.


As for the doors, yes I purchased them after 9ja full lock down few months ago and the price was about that range.. I can't find the receipt now but I did the math back then. The price was almost the same as wooden doors.




I bought 30tons for 240k in June 2020..... location is Delta.....mine came from Edo.....Auchi region I think......prices depends on Location.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 4:34pm On Sep 09, 2020
omanzo02:


I bought 30tons for 240k in June 2020..... location is Delta.....mine came from Edo.....Auchi region I think......prices depends on Location.

Exactly, but we have seen here that in some areas 30tons are significantly less than these prices we both paid for it.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Certain things are cheaper on specific part of the country.

In 2013-2014, a guy I know built 4 bedroom bungalow in Ekiti state for 5m turn key. Excluding land.

Whether people supplied materials to him on credit ,I don't know but that was the total cash he spent. That figure is unthinkable in the East at that time frame.

Before the lock down, egbon me and am they follow work was sweating profusely after purchasing a land somewhere in Ibadan ( i am not familiar with area) for 2.5m. For you to start pointing your hand left and right for a location like that in the east, you should have upwards of 8.5m before agent fee etc.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 4:40pm On Sep 09, 2020
michlins:
I tell people to pay me #18,000 so I can make it for them then they can sell at 35,000 at their location. It's the business part I'm talking about. This doors are extremely expensive in some areas and cheaper elsewhere
Sounds like a plan smiley. Problem is time frame to get more if a customer wants more urgently.
If I can get a good location to display, we can do business together.
Maybe a bit higher than the cost you gave though So it won't seem like you are being taken advantage of.
By the time you gain trust of people and you are consistent and honest, you will make very good business and connections here and offline.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 4:52pm On Sep 09, 2020
Hmmn! I agree then, but I hate it when someone is telling me the gain he is making when dealing with me because I don't need to know it. If you are OK with it fine, but don't start telling me your profit is five naira or two naira.
Badgers14:


I actually paid 235k for a 30ton of granite last year September... location was Asaba.. they said quarry is at Edo state. The have to pay local government emblem for 20k, transportation etc.

People that I know that purchased 30 ton around that area paid similar price.. was it cheap? Were they trying to drive Benz that quick grin ? Idk but that's what I paid.

How much is 30 tons in your area (as of last year)? That is if you could remember.

I have not purchased granite of recent so I don't know of the current price.


As for the doors, yes I purchased them after 9ja full lock down few months ago and the price was about that range.. I can't find the receipt now but I did the math back then. The price was almost the same as wooden doors.



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 4:55pm On Sep 09, 2020
I think I can now understand your point after going through people's comment here. Don't worry, I know someone will patronize you here very soon and we will hear from the person testimony. Keep trying bro, people in need of your service will locate you by God grace.
michlins:
please sir where's your location and can you help me make arrangements so I can be supplying these doors. I will really appreciate it.


Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:59pm On Sep 09, 2020
gbadexy:

Sounds like a plan smiley. Problem is time frame to get more if a customer wants more urgently.
If I can get a good location to display, we can do business together.
Maybe a bit higher than the cost you gave though So it won't seem like you are being taken advantage of.
By the time you gain trust of people and you are consistent and honest, you will make very good business and connections here and offline.
well about the honesty part, I will tell you to check out the thread with which I sold phones with. There was no single report that I ripped off anyone either by selling faulty device or running away with their money. For months I have been here displaying my works and asking for a job. I have been dragged and called out severally too. I won't be consistent if my end game is just to rip people off and run.

Look around for a good location and contact me. Like I said, I can make fifty doors in two weeks. I won't do it alone though. I will have to hire extra manpower which won't be a problem at all. Kindly let me know when you are ready.

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 4:59pm On Sep 09, 2020
Oh OK! Thanks for your input.

What is really happening in Lagos? Things are always higher compare to other part of this country
megan1:

Actually I priced iron door in Abuja from a welder that makes doors and his last price was 17k(for single pan) then for double pan it was 30k. I asked the price in July 2020.

So the price of 18k is possible
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 5:01pm On Sep 09, 2020
Abolarin91:
I think I can now understand your point after going through people's comment here. Don't worry, I know someone will patronize you here very soon and we will hear from the person testimony. Keep trying bro, people in need of your service will locate you by God grace.
I know that person will definitely come. Truth however is that I like the fact that people are asking the relevant questions. If such interrogation is consistent, I believe that scammers will have a hard time doing their nefarious acts

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 5:05pm On Sep 09, 2020
Nice update sir, more power to your elbow.
n3xt:
Interlock Updates: Concrete Pigments

You can by natural color concrete pigments to your concrete to produce a natural stone color or other decorative colorations.

I’m using red oxide and black for this project. 1kg bag is sold N1,300 and it can produce about 10sqm of stone.

#brabusinterlockDIY
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 5:10pm On Sep 09, 2020
Badgers14:


Exactly, but we have seen here that in some areas 30tons are significantly less than these prices we both paid for it.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Certain things are cheaper on specific part of the country.

In 2013-2014, a guy I know built 4 bedroom bungalow in Ekiti state for 5m turn key. Excluding land.

Whether people supplied materials to him on credit ,I don't know but that was the total cash he spent. That figure is unthinkable in the East at that time frame.

Before the lock down, egbon me and am they follow work was sweating profusely after purchasing a land somewhere in Ibadan ( i am not familiar with area) for 2.5m. For you to start pointing your hand left and right for a location like that in the east, you should have upwards of 8.5m before agent fee etc.

In the same period I bought I saw prices between 180-200k on Jiji, but preferred the supplier I used because he was closer and easier to physically reached and confronted in any case of eventuality.
But sand is cheaper in Delta because there are a lot of rivers and sea to source from and are closer.
I did my decking during the lockdown, when I felt the price could go up I stocked up materials.......and up the prices went.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 5:12pm On Sep 09, 2020
michlins:
well about the honesty part, I will tell you to check out the thread with which I sold phones with. There was no single report that I ripped off anyone either by selling faulty device or running away with their money. For months I have been here displaying my works and asking for a job. I have been dragged and called out severally too. I won't be consistent if my end game is just to rip people off and run.

Look around for a good location and contact me. Like I said, I can make fifty doors in two weeks. I won't do it alone though. I will have to hire extra manpower which won't be a problem at all. Kindly let me know when you are ready.

Thanks
Alright sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 5:40pm On Sep 09, 2020
I am glad you get the point here, don't think people are just trying to castigate you. We are just trying to protect each other from story that will later touch the heart grin
michlins:
I know that person will definitely come. Truth however is that I like the fact that people are asking the relevant questions. If such interrogation is consistent, I believe that scammers will have a hard time doing their nefarious acts
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 6:43pm On Sep 09, 2020
temi4fash:


Hello Sir,

Is stone dust better than Sharp sand.

Why didn't they use sand for the interlocking??

Can same be applied to molding of blocks too??

Stone Dust posses some properties of granite and functions similarly.

Stone dust is much more stronger than sharp sand because of the properties it's posses. In fact, when rain and sun comes in contact with stone dust mixture, it becomes even stronger as the day goes by.

It is equally more expensive to use than sharp sand. You must note that too...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jesusson2020: 6:43pm On Sep 09, 2020
Chekitaut:
Jesusson2020, i wish you can come explain yourself.

Many people think they can just take other for what i do not know. What you do not know remain your master...

Am a master in what i know, many years of experience can never be put under the carpet. I use them to benefit all around me.

If i tell u bill, you can not remove my efforts. My efforts put me in business. You can not do my job & i can not do yours.

you know deeply you not saying the truth.

What you know in sand supply business, you only use it to deceive customers.

I expect you to honorably keep quite and hide a little bit, because you have been bursted.

Is only a shameless person that will continue ranting, when shown evidence of truth.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 7:15pm On Sep 09, 2020
oil dey your head....i was about to say same..... they are confusing people with truck volumes and quantity . A 30 ton truck is capable of carrying 30 tons not necessary same or equal volumes of sand and granite .payload quantity should be irrelevant since a customers is simply after volume or quantity ..


coldcandy:
Let's not be confused with the terms tons and volume!
Ton is a measure of mass of a substance. Volume is a measure of space occupied by a substance.
The pictures showed that 30tons of sand and granite occupies same volume which is not possible.
30 tons of sand will occupy about 19 cubic meters or 19,000 ltrs of space (19 pcs of 1000 ltrs water tank).
30 tons of granite will occupy about 11 cubic meters or 11pcs of 1,000 ltrs of water tank).
So if thesame truck is bringing you equal volumes of sand and granite as 30tons, then the supplier is a cheat. 30 tons of sand is more than 30 tons of granite as seen by the naked eye.


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:20pm On Sep 09, 2020
Abolarin91:
Nice update sir, more power to your elbow.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by multikolour(m): 7:25pm On Sep 09, 2020
jesusson2020:


you know deeply you not saying the truth.

What you know in the sand supply business, you only use it to deceive customers.

I expect you to honourably keep quiet and hide a little bit because you have been burst.

Is only a shameless person that will continue ranting, when shown evidence of truth.
bros you have succeeded in insulting the guy but no solutions. Kindly assist those people who asked you for supply.

In as much as you don't agree with him and you took time to explain to the house what you think is the right thing, allow people to decide if to hire him or not.

Attacking and insulting him all the time turns to cyberbully.

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