odumchi: All of those things you listed are very possible.

In 2010, there was a man in Aba called Osisikwankwu who was given (by a native doctor) the ability to disappear whenever he touched a certain type of plant. He used his ability to wreak havoc until his death at the hands of the Nigerian army.

In pre-colonial times, warriors would get heavily fortified before they went to war. This fortification would allow them to be impervious to stab wounds or gun shots.

Power is found everywhere in this world. There is nothing that's impossible under the sun.

ifyalways: You saw someone break and chew bottles LIVE and you call that magic?

Define magic please?

The things you listed up there exist. I however don't believe it can affect me. Vodoo operate and work under principles amongst other things but 'point of contact and faith' is required before anything works(for all religious beliefs sef). So long as my faith is unshaking, firmly believe that I'm well protected and there is no contact point(I've treated all men fairly, kept my hands clean) then I have no reason to fear voodoo. That's my opinion. Works for me.

cuteonyii: If Osisikankwu can touch something and disappear when the mobile police were around. How come he did not touch and disappear when the Army came around
If warriors could be fortified to the point the can not get gun shots.. How come nothing much was done during the civil war??
I bet you if there are stuff that can make us disappear, many people with money would have been untouchable..

odumchi:


Osisikwankwu's magic failed him because he failed to re-fortify himself since the army had surrounded his bunker in the woods. He bent down to disappear but nothing happened and they killed him. It's all over the newspapers and the Internet.

who on earth will fail to re-fortify himself when he knows very well that his life is being demanded for?... if every fortification last for say 24hour, then Osisi will just use the remaining 6 hours of every 24 hour to go and refortify.. Is a simple and common logic. But because there is nothing like fortification and refortification thats why it does not hold water. It is said that many days are for the thief but one day is for the owner of the house.. Osisis was only doing his magic and getting out of it because there was no match to his skills of operations. Not until when the army came..


Warriors were fortified during pre-colonial times and not during the modern era. In the modern era most people were converted to Christianity and no longer believed in those things.

you said during pre- colonial?? But we still have many warriors today who are not christian.. so what happen? can't they fortify them self and do the fighting alone?? Believe me, If there are things like fortification, US Army will not want to loose any of their trained soldier because it cost them a lot to train a single soldier

Lol. Nothing is impossible under the sun.

wesley80: OP, all you have to do is buy a satellite receiver and tune in to TB Joshua's Emmanuel TV, I promise your perspective of life will change! The things I've heard and seen on that station eh! As a matter of fact, I won't be surprised if you're actually a ghost yourself lol. Just watch that station for one week then come back here and tell your story. Seriously, there's much more to this life we live.

ifyalways: So onyi what is your explanation for those unnatural occurences? Magic? You don't believe voodoo exists and works?

wesley80: ^What's the point? You don't believe God exists so why should anyone waste their time proving to u that satan does?

wesley80: ^ Yes, though your answer seems pretty obvious.

ifyalways: Onyi,things like chewing bottle, voodoo to withstand bullet,rings that can make one appear and disappear at will. I don't think they qualify as magic, they are voodoo at work. Perhaps we should start by distinguishing both;voodoo and magic.

Btw, where do you place the African rain makers? voodoo or magic?

ifyalways:

Therefore magic is a by-product of voodoo, or to put it succinctly, a branch of voodoo. It works with charms, spells and incantations.

Ok if Voodoo is a by product of Magic. I want you to watch this clip and tell me what you think.. This video will explain to you what magic is which will help you to understand that magic is not real. So if magic is proved fake to you, how much more its by-product?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA0W2Q0i1Hk

ifyalways: Rainmakers just don't make rains fall, they also stop rain from falling by pushing it to another area.

Science has found a logic to that effect. Something to do with seeding of clouds with silver iodide crystals. I don't have all the details but somehow, scientists now have a backing for "rain making"

African rainmakers have existed for long, doing their thing. Making rain fall and withholding it too using incantations, herbs and more. So its not just voodoo.

What comes to your mind when some preacher shakes his hands and people fall down? Anointing or spell(a by product of voodoo) ?

cuteonyii:
Hey guys, i'm not trying to offend any body here. But sometimes my friends finds it annoying when I tell them that I do not believe in the following.

1. That someone can make me appear on a mirror and cast a spell on me.
2. That someone can tie my destiny with my picture taken to some where.
3. That I can get ill when i walk over something buried under the earth or in front of my door.
4. That someone can changed baby in the womb to something else e.g stone, tortoise, etc.
5. That dead people can come out and hunt me.
6. I can see ghost.
o7. That someone can get shot at and the bullet will not get into the body.
8. That Ritual will make money fill in your room.

Is not because of religion but just they way I grew up. I was born and raised in Africa for over 30 year i'm yet to get any prove for those stuff. I strongly believe in magics and poison, but when it comes to voodoo I do not believe in that.
I have actually seen people break, chew and swallow bottle when i was in Aba. But I call those stuffs magics because thats the only thing they could do all the time. I think we Africans call most things voodoo simply because we do not have explanations to them.
What do you believe??

nyameke: The disbelief in something does not make that thing non existent. We create our own realities and experiences and so you not believing in those things means that they are not evident in your reality but it doesn't make them any less True or non existent..( why atheist can disbelief in God all they want it still wouldn't make God non existent) The things that manifest in your life in this existence are the things that you believe in. All the things that you listed are all possible and can be done by anyone if you have the mental power, strength and the know how along with faith. You dont have to practice voodoo, Christianity, Islam etc or join the occult to do these so called supernatural phenomenons. You just need knowledge and most importantly understand how the metaphysical works.

So yes all the things you listed are real possible and are what we call real magic because it makes use of the metaphysical.. belief in something is a choice we all make..

nyameke: ^^^ why not and do you believe in God?

afam4eva: I don't believe in spirits.

cuteonyii: The most funny part of it is that people will tell you how they saw spirit..
First of all do you know what Spirit is?.. Spirit is something you can not see or touch. It is an imaginary being. so how can you see spirit..