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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by PointB: 8:56am On Aug 26, 2012
Let's take a closer look again at the two men in that picture, and again ask why is this picture on the frontpage? Why is is generating so much controversial attention? The answer is simple: the picture is unnatural!!

Let's analyse it further. These men are in talks about possible mergers of their political parties. On the ground AC.N seems pretty much larger and stronger than CPC. It has wider reach than CPC. While CPC parades an ex-president, and ex-presidential aspirant Buhari as its leader. The CPC, though controls few states nonetheless has many sympathetic to its leader among the core northern population.

Under such circumstance, the merger should at the very least be that of 'equals.' A slight bow from both men and a handshake would have aptly demonstrated this, while mutual respect would have still been accorded.

But Tinubu crouch is not only unnatural (it is not a bow, nor a 'dobale'), it depicts a man who is willing to do anything to achieve his ambition. It smacks of desperation. What's more? It is a act of surrender of will, purpose and leadership to the 'tall one.' Slice and dice it anyhow you want, body posture and message specialists will arrive at the same conclusion.

Even Buhari himself find it (Tinubu's ultra low bow) flattering, if not amusing, that he's got Tinubu on a platter of gold. If the picture could talk, you will hear him giggling, we could see it in his face already. Shock and surprise is written all over it Buhari's face.

Bottomline, Tinubu could have achieve even better result by a slight bow, unless of course Buhari is been set-up ala Ribadu style. I smell a traitor!

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Antivirus92(m): 8:57am On Aug 26, 2012
kingoflag:







But wouldnt the more honorable thing to do be refuse his gifts and tell him "Your money aint good over here", instead of taking it, failing to render services promised, then betraying him ontop of that?! I mean, the Oba of Benin recently tried this method and let the world know where his feet were planted. To me it seems youre espousing betrayal.....

Anyway, I remember this incident perfectly and no matter how its sliced and diced now all I remember is Ojukwu supporting IBB. He never denied it so where are the excuses on his behalf coming from?
i guess you must be a blind man reading with ur fingers. Ibb sent ojukwu a delegation to seek for ojukwu's support. Has delegation now turn to money all of a sudden? Where did u read that ibb sent or dash him money? Or are u trying to tell me that the standard of education in Yoruba land is all that bad that you can't read meaning out of something.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by mathskill: 9:06am On Aug 26, 2012
As evidenced from these pictures bowing is a sign of respect.

Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by heilige(m): 9:13am On Aug 26, 2012
Please close this thread. The starter does not know that Buhari is older than Asiwaju. 9ja culture demands the bow.
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by zalight(m): 9:21am On Aug 26, 2012
when president Obama prostrated for the Saudi king and the Japanese leader many Americans including some from his own political party spoke against his action fiercely and his action stare up a big political row and debate and since then he has never bow down for anyone again.In my opinion the op was right to bring up this issue.There is nothing wrong in showing respect for your elders when you are representing yourself but Tinubu is not representing himself,he is the leader of a political party and the Yoruba's,therefore boot licking a political party leader he plans merging with is not only politically wrong but a slap in the face to his followers. quote author=bittyend]Obama and Saudi King



Obama in Japan

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:28am On Aug 26, 2012
Aigbofa:


Am sure you too are suffering from some post traumatic stress disorder. Am here to help you guys.
aigbofa, you are not a doctor. You escaped from yaba left, maybe that is why you see yourself as a doctor. Do not derail this thread with unrelated contents.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:32am On Aug 26, 2012
Aigbofa:

He is laughing at your stupidity, I am too. grin grin grin grin
no, both of you are laughing as if tinubu is giving you guys his patented world class bl.ow jobs. Already i can see delight and satisfaction in your faces just like it shows in tinubu's face. What is the temperature of tinubu's mouth? Hope his tongue is not too abrasive?

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Sayfat(m): 9:34am On Aug 26, 2012
Must we play everything with politics? What is wrong in bowing for a man that is older than you? The anti-Tinubu on this gesticulation must be an ignorant of Yoruba culture or an arrogant that is designed for destruction.
Buhari is an elderstateman, who should be respected by all, regardless of our political leanings.
If Tinubu meets Edwin Clark, Emeka Anyaoku, Adamu Ciroma, Obj etc, he will do the same.
Why making a mountain out of mole hill?
Olagunsoye Oyinlola, fmr governor of osun, the present pdp secretary bowed for Jonathan. Does that means, he stooped so low? He has to do that, first as a yoruba man, second as a respect for his party's leader.
Lets address issue subjectively.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:35am On Aug 26, 2012
Naval sadiq: My fellow naira landers.remeber that when u hav got a history of deceit behind you no amount of generosity or kindness can fool people.thumbs tinubu u hav given to ceaser wot belongs to ceaser wich is respect.
what belongs to ceaser here? Respect or blo.w job?

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by ichieakpo(m): 9:36am On Aug 26, 2012
truth4meal: its obvious u re bereaved of morals...dis is a pictorial depiction of the respect ur father taught u but u failed to learn...and referring to the Yorubas as Slaves shows u re either a southern "loser of biafra" or Shoeless and brainless southerner.
may god punish u and ur family fool ezi yoruba

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:38am On Aug 26, 2012
Rhino.5dm:
Nah! I'm allergic to front page when discussing politics or spilling some moronic blood in the arena. This is just the beginning I.e if you know who is rhino.5dm.




rhino, you suddenly reappeared after i went to bed abi? Church still dey on sha, i just couldn't let you guys derail this thread until i am free to crush you. Hope you will still be around in 2 hrs timel?.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by mathskill: 9:40am On Aug 26, 2012
zalight: when president Obama prostrated for the Saudi king and the Japanese leader many Americans including some from his own political party spoke against his action fiercely and his action stare up a big political row and debate and since then he has never bow down for anyone again.In my opinion the op was right to bring up this issue.There is nothing wrong in showing respect for your elders when you are representing yourself but Tinubu is not representing himself,he is the leader of a political party and the Yoruba's,therefore boot licking a political party leader he plans merging with is not only politically wrong but a slap in the face to his followers. quote author=bittyend]Obama and Saudi King



Obama in Japan

Obma stiil bowed after that.So, stop misrepresenting facts.

Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:42am On Aug 26, 2012
jamil!:
Nowadays thread on NL can only sum up to the plenty pages when there is tribal issue attached to it unlike before. I am looking forward for the day that seun will put hold on all such issues. Moderators pls would you explain what this thread has achieved for placing it at frontpage? Although I am neither Yoruba nor Igbo but the level of hatred is always going far what a shame?
aboki, there is no hatred here. This is just banter between igbo and yoruba or between malawian and yoruba. You guys up north are almost always without immagination, neither do you know how we roll here in the south. I served up north in kaduna so dont think i dont know what i am saying. Now remain a spectator while the two sides slug it out, except if you wan help tinubu hold buhari's d.ick for am.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by gbadexy(m): 9:43am On Aug 26, 2012
The sole purpose an inane post like this would make the front page is because the moderators and owner of NL know its members well and they didn't disappoint them.
Just as the advent of internet and social media has increased the interconnectivity of people and getting information across so many people, we have seen the good side in people linking up for business, hooking up with lost friends, broadcasting useful life saving informations; and the bad side, fraud, immorality, etc.
What I am really worried about is how far the hate preached has really gone outside here, bearing in mind how fast, far and wide information travels through internet.
I pray there is no repeat of civil war or any crisis in nigeria because the violence would be brutal, nigeria civil war would be a child's play.
P.s I went to lasu, and I know how the yorubas there and in all southwest institutions are representing all rounda, even the OPC and illiterate agberos are representing. Ibos should discountenance the biafra propaganda that yorubas are cowards( meant to taunt them into war with them, just as the propaganda said the hausas soldiers wanted to kill all ibos and they were killing those in the places they conquered, so they fought desperately for survival).
All the action films acted in mushin and island where they face themselves and even opmesa is small cake, if it comes to fighting and boys are given sophisticated weapons, the whole country would know how far and which people are the weakest.
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by faithbukky(m): 9:45am On Aug 26, 2012
Without to other tribes, the Yorubas are repectful, cultured, mannered and a great race. If I happen to come back to this world again, I'll proudly love to be a Yoruba again. Yoruba for life. The insults are needless
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:46am On Aug 26, 2012
matzoro:
Would he bow to OBJ dat in dat manner Maybe he did it just to humour d man
haba, how many times will i point it out? Tinubu was not bowing per say! That neither the way yoruba greet nor the way fulani greet. In fact, someone tell me which style of greeting that is? No tinubu was getting ready for action without realising there was a camera in the room. If you doubt me, look at where his eyes is, look at the level of his shinning head and tell me why his cheecks were salivating.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Sogo10: 9:50am On Aug 26, 2012
E don dey watch ju mong.in dey season 8.
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:52am On Aug 26, 2012
[quote author=soe]Looking closely, it is only rational to conclude that tinubu (having kept d visitor waiting for long) came into d room to meet an elderly Buhari in a sitting position,and while Tinubu felt he shud bend in the hausa form (stoop) to greet d hausa leader (who is expected to b seated during such greetings), the hausa leader quickly moved to avoid such royal greeting by standing up and grabbing d hands of an elderly tinubu...so to me,dis pix only depicts d humility of leaders and tolerance [quote author=soe] pls, tinubu was the visitor here. So what waiting are you talking about? Tinubu took his party cheiftains to go for such ultra low stoop. This unprecedented!

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:53am On Aug 26, 2012
Shollypopz:
U hv an analytical mind......very good!
no he doesn't! He only has an immaginative one!

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 9:58am On Aug 26, 2012
muktar mtt: I feel u men dey nfin abt respect daz y dey kiddnapped thr leader nd broders wat a shame.
i now know why you are fighting for the yorubas. While you take oil money from the south south, you use it to pay for your bl.ow jobs the yorubas give you guys. No wonder we cant fin all those oil money going up north. @ Yoruba bl.ow jobbers, if i may ask, how do these fulani balls feel on ya chins gringrin

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Lawalemi(m): 9:59am On Aug 26, 2012
Aluwala ologbo...
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 10:03am On Aug 26, 2012
muktar mtt: nope u will say is not igbo Culture dnt generaliz dude tinubu is not a Biafaran he respect his elder d u have problem wit dat.
have you ever see where a culture is selective in nature? I ask for art works depicting yoruba bowing to anyone other than hausa fulani or white man instead they were showing me obama, when that failed they started about ojukwu. 13 Pages yet i still havent seen those art works. Would it be wrong to say they dont exist? Bowing is not yoruba culture otherwise it will not be selective. No bowing is a slave directive handed down to them by the fulani after thay crush oyo and illorin. Already i can visualise the day this their bowing started. Dont you?

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Chinom(m): 10:34am On Aug 26, 2012
mathskill: As evidenced from these pictures bowing is a sign of respect.

The picture you posted showed presidents bowing mostly to ROYALTY. Buhari is not a royal. Yes you can bow to the Oba of Benin, the Obi of Onitsha or the Sultan of Sokoto, but not to Buhari, IBB or OBJ. A handshake will do.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 10:36am On Aug 26, 2012
donkray: @Poster, this is a Nigerian affair how is a Malawian affected? I expected Tinibu to prostrate not bow his head, don't hate man showing some respect doesn't mean slavery or fear.
read through the thread, i am igbo from anambra. Haba.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by porka: 10:37am On Aug 26, 2012
Malawian: Just immagine it was the sultan himself, the yoruba supreme leader would have been horizontal.

Sir, there's no big deal in the picture.

Bola Tinubu is a Yoruba man.

Yoruba prostrate for elderly people as a mark of respect.

Because of civilization and modernity, it has been restricted to bowing.

This is normal, it is cultural.

Find something to say.

BTW, Tinubu is not the Yoruba supreme leader.
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Bukkyade: 10:42am On Aug 26, 2012
nuclearboy: A former governor bows before an older former President and here you are insulting an entire race because of that? You come here and insult an entire race?
believe me tinubu is a let down to the western race, I hope you guys survive from this on time.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 10:43am On Aug 26, 2012
Remii: Kadobale fun arara ki ni ka dide ka mo ga. Tinubu has respected age and status, that does not mean he would compromise his stand. He has stood up to OBJ and I believe he would greet him the same way.
we see tinubu in an uncompromising position and you are here talking about stand. No, tinubu will turn contornist if he was asked by his fulani masters. And he is here leading you guys astray. Would tinubu bow to say martin elechi of ebonyin? Must he stoop ultra low to bow? This is a short man we are talking about here. Pls tinubu doesn't make any stand! If gbege show, the guy na first to seme border en rout to london.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 10:53am On Aug 26, 2012
maj007: @malawian: That slavery comment about yorubas shows that your brain needs years of serious repair. Tell me what is wrong in bowing to elders. Do you think if any of nothern politicians (not up to buhari's level and not in PDP) comes across obj; they will stand and shake hands will him. U'll need to be there to see how respectfull the rankadede will be. Iwo omo alaileko to nfi egbe baba e tayin. YANMIRI lasanlasan.
show me a fulani postrating or bowing to a yoruba ever! I never said there is anything wrong with bowing, i am only concerned about buhari's abunnam and tinubu's intentions in that picture. If i may ask, is it all yorubas will bow to buhari? This groin grabbing tinubu is supposed to be here representing all yoruba and you are here making excuse for him. Btw, who is buhari? Is it about age? Why dont tinubu go into the streets and ultra bow to those aged beggers litering it. Is it about money? That pauper buhari isnt he? Is it about status? Buhari leads a band of rag tag precipitates while tinubu leads the so called most sophisticated group in the planet. No there is no conclusive rational for that stoop if he wasnt looking for something around that region. What is tinubu's eyes saying in that picture? What about his cheecks? I need those answers asap. Yoruba this is your supreme leader here o. Una no go ask am question?

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by segcymoor(m): 10:54am On Aug 26, 2012
In the first place what is d different in their age. Tinubu proof he is more culture because Yoruba respect elder by bowing. Besides, It's obvious that Asiwaju is richer than Buhari but he also show hummility here. What is d Big deal!
Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 10:57am On Aug 26, 2012
deeplow:

I wouldn't be too sure if ur post is directly aimed at me or some other people.in my defense,,,
1)I don't live my life on nairaland.
2)I just woke to see the thread.
3)I had to carefully analyze his brain.
4)I had to come to a conclusion
5)I came to a conclusion,right about the time he left for church.
Figure the rest out.
what conclusions did you come about? I missed them. Btw, i am back from church. The final match begins now. Like i said, if arsenal looses this afternoon, well, you better pray they dont.

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by Malawian(m): 11:11am On Aug 26, 2012
porka:

Sir, there's no big deal in the picture.

Bola Tinubu is a Yoruba man.

Yoruba prostrate for elderly people as a mark of respect.

Because of civilization and modernity, it has been restricted to bowing.

This is normal, it is cultural.

Find something to say.

BTW, Tinubu is not the Yoruba supreme leader.
was it also respect that made awolowo order the oba of benin to take a crash course in yoruba? And who exactly is the yoruba supreme political leader today?

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Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by ektbear: 11:21am On Aug 26, 2012
Isn't this standard for people 30+ older than you, in Yorubaland?

Or are you just supposed to shake someone's hand when they are much older than you?

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