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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by NRIPRIEST(m): 1:28pm On May 24, 2016
odumchi:
Ehen, mbu ma echefuo. O di onye maala whne mkpatara nwanne anyi nwokho mbu Radoillo alias Uzu-Oka Nde Igbo njiri fuo? O teela maa nhubeela e.

Kee udili ofufu ina ekwu makia? Is he actually missing or he just left Nairaland?
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by bigfrancis21: 2:49pm On May 24, 2016
NRIPRIEST:


Kee udili ofufu ina ekwu makia? Is he actually missing or he just left Nairaland?

Radoillo nwa awka a pugokwa nairaland eri onwa ito kita. O tegokwa o pulu.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by bigfrancis21: 2:50pm On May 24, 2016
NRIPRIEST:


Ok,i understand everything you wrote except this part.."ili ke gi 'u u'o biila onye owula ke wu urnu" . Sounds like you are talking about some paying a condolence visit a bereaved person.

As for Chinenye, I will need an Ngwa class to even attempt reading what you wrote,else I have a migraine. And I am been honest. I tried reading but it's very tough.

Hahaha...you try man. Reading that was tough but you'd get a feel of what he's saying. I guess it would be easier to understand when you hear it being spoken compared to being written.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by bigfrancis21: 2:51pm On May 24, 2016
odumchi:
Ehen, mbu ma echefuo. O di onye maala whne mkpatara nwanne anyi nwokho mbu Radoillo alias Uzu-Oka Nde Igbo njiri fuo? O teela maa nhubeela e.

Radoillo a pugokwa ebe anunwa. O norozi ebe a, kemgbe onwa ito kita.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by bigfrancis21: 2:53pm On May 24, 2016
SAEJO:
Any true Igbo son in the house? please this proverb to Igbo, "ONE WHOSE HOUSE IS ON FIRE DOES NOT GO HUNTING or CHASING RAT" Thanks.

Madu a ma nrapu uno ya na-agba oku jee na-achu oke.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by bigfrancis21: 2:56pm On May 24, 2016
odumchi:


O lo loo! Bigfrancis21, I yoduola daa? A aha niile e etuga m etuga, o maa onye nwe? grin Lekwala kemgbe manu hubeela gi! Ahu amagbuga gi! cheesy I kachaala e. O rii onye anwu ngi ime owula. Anyi richa nma, o wu he nde e lega manu anya ehienna. Elee kpa ornu na agumakwukwo shi agaga? O kweshikwanna otu eshi, anyi agbokama meghee otu ili ke gi 'u u'o biila onye owula ke wu urnu. Obi amaala m nma ihu sha nde ke m ka nokwa e. Ya riila gi nma, nwokhe oma.

I meela daa, a hulanu m kpa I shi emega, I nu uwa mma nga I nu. Onye owula shi na I kugahu nga ahu I no, ashi ka o tuga. cheesy

Elee kpa nde ke nnu ri? I nuga olu ha?

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 12:47am On May 25, 2016
ChinenyeN:
I kara ke oma, Nkaramngwa.

Whne Radoillo nsi fuo mbu sita whne aa ma nkara. Ñña na añarnala. O dila ñarna ñarna (tepid, lukewarm, so-so). Omamarna uka adii odo la NL. Ogwe ke m to ndi icho itoro. Ma i maala la Radoillo nlokwara? O buu la o di iti onu e la whne liile, ma o di e. AjaanaOka mbu awhna o di iza gbuo.

Ahn-ha. L'ezi? Amaa m o.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 12:58am On May 25, 2016
AjaanaOka:
I get a mention, and I don't even understand 35 - 45% of what was said. cry

NRIPRIEST:

Kee udili ofufu ina ekwu makia? Is he actually missing or he just left Nairaland?

bigfrancis21:

Radoillo a pugokwa ebe anunwa. O norozi ebe a, kemgbe onwa ito kita.

Lmao grin ochi adoowa m afo. Ma ebe ndi disapu no na-eche Jeso na Petenkos, o rughi nke otu a!

Ufodi nde si na I ka no, nde ozo si na i laala. Ngwanu, Radoillo...erm AjaanaOka, bia zaran aha ka anyi matan onye I bu n'ezi. Oge ruola. grin
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 1:03am On May 25, 2016
NRIPRIEST:


Ok,i understand everything you wrote except this part.."ili ke gi 'u u'o biila onye owula ke wu urnu" . Sounds like you are talking about some paying a condolence visit a bereaved person.

That particular phrase means "an interesting thread from which everyone will gain" lol.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 1:14am On May 25, 2016
ChinenyeN:
35 - 45%? That means you understood over half of what was said. Dang... I should have been much more obscure with my speech, but then I'd also run the risk of even Odumchi not understanding me. Oh well. Compromises have to be made, I guess.

Haha Deedenne, biko biara akpasula m o. O di mgba m ji kaa la whne nde we adi igba ndi irna m? Umutakiri eji "parna m aparna" amu ijhe? Ohn ohn. Maa gh ndi ika uka, gbaarna m la nwaafo ibe gh. cool
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 2:25am On May 25, 2016
odumchi:
Haha Deedenne, biko biara akpasula m o. O di mgba m ji kaa la whne nde we adi igba ndi irna m? Umutakiri eji "parna m aparna" amu ijhe? Ohn ohn. Maa gh ndi ika uka, gbaarna m la nwaafo ibe gh. cool

Eeeehn!? I gba erne la i tagh'ta akara ma kwugh'ta ugwo e to? (kikiki). Nnaa.. o buu ohna mgbutigh'ta ovo chekpo hnu. Ta i ka la i kwu la nde we mgbutigh'ta e? Odinma. Gama Nkaramngwa ntaa awhnurnawhnu; ta isi nkugba gh daidai ahu nunu. (kiki). I ka ma miirna gh nla nwaafo.. ma bii.

You want me to go deeper. I can dig deep. Really deep. Remember, Ngwa has multiple dialects (21, according to a 1979 study by an Ngwa linguist), and unknown to most, these dialects can be spoken in such a way as to obscure speech from even other Ngwa village-groups. Mine is no different. I can speak mine, and mix with speech patterns from other village-groups. I might We might just have a lot of fun with this. grin
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by NRIPRIEST(m): 1:19pm On May 25, 2016
bigfrancis21:


Radoillo nwa awka a pugokwa nairaland eri onwa ito kita. O tegokwa o pulu.

Nya mee chighata kam jou ya ife melu ndi Oka ji eli nkakwu.... grin grin
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by NRIPRIEST(m): 1:21pm On May 25, 2016
odumchi:


That particular phrase means "an interesting thread from which everyone will gain" lol.

That's some serious stuff... grin
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by AjaanaOka(m): 6:03pm On May 25, 2016
odumchi:






Lmao grin ochi adoowa m afo. Ma ebe ndi disapu no na-eche Jeso na Petenkos, o rughi nke otu a!

Ufodi nde si na I ka no, nde ozo si na i laala. Ngwanu, Radoillo...erm AjaanaOka, bia zaran aha ka anyi matan onye I bu n'ezi. Oge ruola. grin

Hehehe. Onwero onye wotalu ife ChinenyeN delu, beelu so ginwa...and munwa, to an extent. Obulu na fa wotalu, fa aka afu ebe Chinenye kwulu na Radoillo meelu reincarnate as AjaanaOka. Ezigbote oyi m nwoke onye Ugwuta si na, "English is a barrier." Mana n'etiti anyi ebe a, Igbo bukwuzi a barrier. grin

Mana nsogbu akaro nku. A si na Igbo na-asu n'onu n'onu, mana fa kwaa ukwala o bulu ofu. Anyi ga-adi. Njiko Igbo ga na-aga n'iru. Nwa Oka, na-ekene gi o, nwa Maazi. Ndi ozo tinyelu onu na nkata a, onye na nke ya o!

Daalu nu.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 11:36pm On May 27, 2016
I'm really hoping someone somewhere has some sort of an answer to these questions.

1. Besides 'igwe' (HL), are there any other known words for metals? (not including ola).

2. Are there any other words for specific metals (i.e. lead, zinc, copper, etc.)? The presence of blacksmithing leads me to believe that there has to be, but I have yet to see it recorded or to see anyone mention it.

3. Was 'igwe' the finished product or was it also the ore?

... I don't anticipate any immediate answers, but if anyone on here knew, I'd appreciate it. Apparently those who I've asked cannot help me, and Igbo text sources don't provide any more knowledge than what I already know.

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by AjaanaOka(m): 10:29am On May 28, 2016
ChinenyeN:
I'm really hoping someone somewhere has some sort of an answer to these questions.

1. Besides 'igwe' (HL), are there any other known words for metals? (not including ola).

2. Are there any other words for specific metals (i.e. lead, zinc, copper, etc.)? The presence of blacksmithing leads me to believe that there has to be, but I have yet to see it recorded or to see anyone mention it.

3. Was 'igwe' the finished product or was it also the ore?

... I don't anticipate any immediate answers, but if anyone on here knew, I'd appreciate it. Apparently those who I've asked cannot help me, and Igbo text sources don't provide any more knowledge than what I already know.

Ona is (or has become - I'm not quite sure which) a generic name for all alloys of copper. But it seems to have been primarily connected to copper alone. Brass (at least according to Blench's Onicha dictionary) is referred to as ona oku (fiery ona) in addition to the generic ona. But I can't say I'm at all familiar in my local surrounding with the term ona oku.

As for the other metals - zinc, lead, etc - I know nothing. Smiths were probably more interested in iron, copper and brass to have given much thought to these minor elements, which didn't feature much in their work, anyway. [Zinc is, I think, a constituent of brass. But since brass alloying didn't seem to have been done by Igbo smiths themselves, they probably were not aware of it as such.]

The major constituent of 'otanjere' however is lead. Read somewhere that 81% of otanjere is lead. So perhaps we can assign the name 'otanjere' or 'ona otanjere' to lead.

As for igwe (iron): If I remember correctly, the Nsukka people call the iron ore ekuma. For us in Awka, it is aga.

The first product of iron-ore-smelting (pig iron) we call igwe-aga. The refined pig iron (wrought iron) is what we call igwe. The iron slags are avuluvu uzu or akputakpu.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 1:45pm On May 28, 2016
Bigfrancis21, Odumchi, Fulaman198, we've got a hidden post here for one reason or another. If you don't mind making it visible, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 4:43pm On May 28, 2016
Thanks moderators for making the post visible.

AjaanaOka, nmanma. Your response is more or less as I suspected. The reason for my questions is to see the extent that the elements themselves had been named, and I don't mean the finished products themselves, but the elements that constitute them. It seems that iron is the only element with an actual name, but that name has gravitated toward general use for metals.

I guess this would mean that I am at liberty to coin any new terminology for these elements. Anyone interested in joining me? Initially, I wanted to know this information so that I could coin an effective term for pencil, but now I'm feeling a little ambitious and want to tackle the entire periodic table. Anyone who's interested in joining me should feel free to let me know. We could start a thread here in the culture section. After all, a nyukalata mamirni onu, ya agba ufufu. Either way, I'm going to get this done.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by AjaanaOka(m): 11:12am On May 29, 2016
Mehn, this banning business, ehn.

Anyway, ChinenyeN, bring it. I'm not a creative 'coiner' myself, but it will be great to see what you guys come up with.

Does Scholti still post on this forum?
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 3:40pm On May 29, 2016
Scholti hasn't been on here in over two months, but I can certainly mention him/her in the thread. He/she should be able to see it, if NL notifications go to a regularly checked email inbox.

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 3:06pm On Jun 17, 2016
ChinenyeN:


Eeeehn!? I gba erne la i tagh'ta akara ma kwugh'ta ugwo e to? (kikiki). Nnaa.. o buu ohna mgbutigh'ta ovo chekpo hnu. Ta i ka la i kwu la nde we mgbutigh'ta e? Odinma. Gama Nkaramngwa ntaa awhnurnawhnu; ta isi nkugba gh daidai ahu nunu. (kiki). I ka ma miirna gh nla nwaafo.. ma bii.

You want me to go deeper. I can dig deep. Really deep. Remember, Ngwa has multiple dialects (21, according to a 1979 study by an Ngwa linguist), and unknown to most, these dialects can be spoken in such a way as to obscure speech from even other Ngwa village-groups. Mine is no different. I can speak mine, and mix with speech patterns from other village-groups. I might We might just have a lot of fun with this. grin

Hahaha O kpoo! Gbuona ta I biara wo! Eziokwu m liile, ehi ngi iji onu m kaa kaa whne obu ngi idi uwa liile ogozu, ebelebe ngi igbu. Ogwe m, itu aka l'eji ima m nma. O ji abu onye d'enyo, ishi a ad'afuta. Nsumahia totara iba eze. wink

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 3:09pm On Jun 17, 2016
ChinenyeN:


I guess this would mean that I am at liberty to coin any new terminology for these elements. Anyone interested in joining me? Initially, I wanted to know this information so that I could coin an effective term for pencil, but now I'm feeling a little ambitious and want to tackle the entire periodic table. Anyone who's interested in joining me should feel free to let me know. We could start a thread here in the culture section. After all, a nyukalata mamirni onu, ya agba ufufu. Either way, I'm going to get this done.

This ought to be very interesting. I'm in.

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 5:44pm On Jun 17, 2016

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 4:54pm On Jun 19, 2016
odumchi:


Hahaha O kpoo! Gbuona ta I biara wo! Eziokwu m liile, ehi ngi iji onu m kaa kaa whne obu ngi idi uwa liile ogozu, ebelebe ngi igbu. Ogwe m, itu aka l'eji ima m nma. O ji abu onye d'enyo, ishi a ad'afuta. Nsumahia totara iba eze. wink

Hahaha.. See how far you've come.

odumchi:
Let me attempt Ngwa.

What's your name?
Afagi o giri?

Do you want to eat?
Icholo ilo nri?

How are you?
Hmm. . .

You knew next to nothing about speaking/reading/writing Ngwa. Now you're here trying to get me to treat you as nwaafo. I know you couldn't have learned it from me, because I made strict efforts to not teach Ngwa to NL Igbo (I wanted to perpetually watch them struggle for all their ignorance back then).

I am positive you had help. You went digging. There is no other explanation, because I know for a fact that there aren't enough resources online to thoroughly teach anyone much about Ngwa (be it culture or language) to the point where they are reading and writing like you are. Now, because of your hard work and dedication, I can barely obfuscate my words. What's worse is that you're inadvertently making my Ngwa more intelligible to NL Igbo. cry

My reign of terror has practically come to an end...

O gbuwhnudulaghi m si agbuwhnu. Kwa adum whne m lei.

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Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by odumchi: 7:02am On Aug 01, 2016
Ebelebe! Whne ndi'ri iri d'eto eto o. Enyi m lee, nkotara gh whne maa whudila l'ije mira Okwu Ngwa, I ganu ya nkwe?

It's thoroughly refreshing to look back at my humble beginnings, but ChinenyeN, enyi m nwokho, believe me when I say that my entire journey with Okwu Ngwa has been an independent venture. As much as I wish I had or knew someone with whom I could regularly communicate and practice, I didn't. It definitely would have expedited and made things much easier, though. I reached where I am today by making use of what limited online resources I had available in the form of traditional music on YouTube, Facebook groups, and a couple of Nollywood films. Your posts on Nairaland have been a useful learning tool, the value of which I think you yourself may have underestimated. I've also acquired a small pocket dictionary to help expand my vocabulary. This basic level of proficiency that I am currently at has meant listening to songs over and over until the meanings of expressions and the nuances of the dialect were subconsciously impressed onto my brain, but at the same time, has not been all too impossible because, from my experience, our native dialects, although distinct in many ways, have their fair share of similarities.

Mgba eji Okwu Ngwa d'emegbu anyi we mbu umu mgbei ebiedila woo. Jaanhu lol.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by ChinenyeN(m): 2:53pm On Aug 01, 2016
Hewu.. Odumchi.

You know, after having thought about it for a while, I will concede that I may have inadvertently helped by speaking too much. Even AjaanaOka started picking it up little by little at one point (though now that I think of it, he has a copy of an Echie dictionary/wordlist... might have been using it as a proxy for Ngwa... smart guy).

Anyway, mawhnuo m onu. Of course, we share the same language family, and so it will not be outright impossible for you to learn Ngwa. Nonetheless I'm proud of the effort and development you've made. I gbalidila. Gbuo, o dii whne odo maa nji gh ma o buu ikwe ekwe la whne we i ka.

By the way, what small pocket dictionary was it that you acquired?
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by Ragner(m): 7:00pm On Aug 30, 2016
Igukwa Igbo Sikwari ike' oo
Anwotacharom ihe ni'ne unu ne dey neba mana achokwam Imu asusu'm ofuma
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by pearlicious(f): 11:50am On Sep 01, 2016
Am glad to be here and new actually, pls I will need guideline here, tnx , Ndigbo kwenu
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by EzePromoe: 6:43am On Oct 18, 2016
pearlicious:
Am glad to be here and new actually, pls I will need guideline here, tnx , Ndigbo kwenu
Your questions are welcome.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by 3RNEST(m): 11:13am On Oct 20, 2016
EzePromoe:
Your questions are welcome.
I want to learn Igbo..on WhatsApp
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by EzePromoe: 11:25am On Oct 20, 2016
3RNEST:
I want to learn Igbo..on WhatsApp
Drop your number if it's comfortable for you or send a PM.
Re: Igbo learning thread + Translator by MPVGoddess: 7:04pm On Jan 28, 2017
so how does one say:

1. i miss you
2. i want to see you
3. can we meet

in Igbo?


Thanks

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