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airmark:


That was what i told one guy up there, if Hazard didnt score or assist, he didnt deliver. If he made assist, you guys will say he didn't score. If he scored, you will say apart from the goal, he didn't do anything. You guys shouldn't be taken serious.

I don't judge solely on goals n assists, but will you honestly say he performed vs France?

madrid5:
na aba version you watch.

Any version you call it. Truth remains he did nothing on the night.

madrid5:
exactly if those played that way against France am sure they would have won,point of correction, courtois was the best Belgian player that match at least kept Belgium in the game,people were hailing hazard,lukaku,kdb even fellaini because they did well in the first half,only hazard and courtois and anderweirld , replicated that performance against France lukaku and kdb was being choked by varane and kante/matuide respectively that was why they lost.

HAZARD DID NOTHING VS FRANCE.

airmark:
You must be kidding. You wan't me to bring raumdeuter's reliable ratings for you?

I won't even be surprised if you lots say Hazard wasn't Belgium's best performer in the tournament.

Being their best player in the tournament doesn't mean he delivered vs Brazil n France now, does it? This moniker no be raumdeuter.

madrid5:
lol which rubbish team mates,if lukaku or debruyne play like hazard that night Belgium go for win that match,its ironic that de bruyne was not called a fraud for disappearing that match or against Liverpool in the champions league last season but if na hazard na we nor hear word.the whole Belgium team did not show up?na who come play the match.

They showed up n lost? When Hazard was drimbling from corner to corner vs Brazil n people that enjoys take ons were hailing him while Kdb n Lukaku won that match, where you been dey?

madrid5:
well the game I watched he was certainly Belgium's best player by far but I know say na back of tele you dey watch.

He was not better than his teammates on that night, tho the whole Belgium team did not turn up

Eruditor:
Noticed I apologized for quoting you. I realized you are on course to being the dumbest Barca supporter I have ever come across. Keep being dumb...just stay away from me while at it.

You should know when to take some comments as trolls n just bypass.

RuuDie:
Nothing do you... I have toned down on the 'fanatism'. Now na anywhere belle face i dey do

Toh, no wahala.

RuuDie:
Ehhh... and the point of the question is?

There's no point. Just wanted to know if you've switched allegiance or just being a neutral

RuuDie:
I think this is a good fixture for Barca. The key is to keep cool and deny United possession of the ball for the longest stretches possible. They are not the best bus-parking side so the openings will be there. Also, there is still a level of naivete about OGS that may not work to his team advantage.

Are you not a United fan?

Taguchi:
I don't think he did................. it was a brace that earned him the standing ovation at the Bernabeu

miatake, edited... Thanks! Wanted to correct the mistake i saw on the thread already

Just for the records, Ronaldinho did not score a hattrick vs madrid.

Olamyyde:
Jesus!!!!! Andre gomes wasn't this bad?


Seriously guy you have confirmed that you are an extended highlights barca fan.

Any sane person who watched andre gomes at barca and says he played better than coutinho should seriously check himself up.


Andre gomes is our worst signing in the past 5 years and it's not even close. Arda turan has a shout but had a period where he was scoring hatricks. Andre gomes never had 2 consecutive great games.

Hollup, He was the worst in the last decade!

Ozkar:
give EV some slack. The reason he rotates players (and plays people like Vidal) is to avoid the late collapse last season that saw us crash out of the UCL.

All I see is complaints... If he doesn't rotate, we complain. If he rotates, we complain. If the team wins, we complain he didn't play someone we liked. If the team loses, it's because he didn't play someone we like.

Guy if you get slack give am abeg... I no get strength for back n forth

Isomerizm:
People beat off to Valverde yesterday, FYI.

As in ehn... I was just laughing while reading comments(not all tho)

Isomerizm:
We share the same values. People won't look beyond a single good game. Vidal, that errand boy. He's one of the players I don't want to see next season.

It's Chelsea I blame in all these, them for don offer am one maga deal that he couldn't reject. He would've been getting his pension from Roman instead.

Adiwana:
I said he played mainly 442 with Paulinho in the team and that Vidal is an upgrade because Paulinho didn't fit into the 443 formation unlike Vidal.But we played 442 yesterday when we were attacked and 433 when we were on the offensive

Enough of Vidal! I feel like I'm wasting my time talking about him. For the umpteenth, it's 433!

Ozkar:
I'm not saying Vidal should always start. I'm only addressing the opinion many have that he's useless. Vidal has his uses. When he came on yesterday, didn't you see how he immediately bullied Vinicius off the ball more than once?

Some opponents require more of the Vidal kind of players. Some others Arthur's flair and possession. We should know the difference.

I don't ANALyse a game I didn't watch unlike many here, so I'm not gon talk about yesterday's match. Rakitic has almost all of vidal's marking ability with A cool head bar recklessness of course. Raki Busi and Arthur is the best we can offer... with Vidal as a bench player

Ozkar:
If EV plays the players you guys want and we lose matches, it's still you guys that would be calling for his head.

I think EV is an overly cautious coach, and sometimes his lineup and changes piss me off, but you have to realize that in the end, it's the result that truly counts. It is thanks to him that we are still in 3 competitions.

Even Pep could not sustain the intensity of arguably the greatest Barca side ever. Give EV some slack.

who created that team in the first place? What has E.V created for you to even mention his name in same sentence with pep?

Ozkar:
If EV plays the players you guys want and we lose matches, it's still you guys that would be calling for his head.

I think EV is an overly cautious coach, and sometimes his lineup and changes piss me off, but you have to realize that in the end, it's the result that truly counts. It is thanks to him that we are still in 3 competitions.

Even Pep could not sustain the intensity of arguably the greatest Barca side ever. Give EV some slack.

The best coaches do not win every game... Barca fans these days ehn... smh!

Adiwana:
sorry.433

Lol. Valverde does not play 433.. didn't you remind me of that earlier

Ozkar:
we'd be exposed the day we leave the whole midfield to Arthur. Maybe you don't realize it yet. Arthur is a great player, but he's not quite there yet.

You think Xavi and Iniesta were so formidable only because they could thread passes and move past players? They also knew how to win back the ball.

The whole team used pressing to win the ball back then, not xavi, not Iniesta! Xaviesta and busquest retained the ball very well. Rakitic Arthur n Busi is the best midfield combo barca can field. No place for vidal

Adiwana:
Which livescore?? See,we mostly play 2 systems.443 Flat in which Busquet,Arthur and Rakitic play as 3 CMs and 443 in which Busquets plays as DM, Rakitic as CM and Vidal as Box to Box.When Arthur was playing before he got injured,Busquet wasn't really on top of his game as he played as a CM instead of his DM role.And remember that we conceded a lot then and lost a couple of games with Arthur ahead of Vidal in that line up.But since he got injured and Vidal came in,Busquet has really improved as he has gone back to that DM role and we have not really lost any game and has conceded less even though the team's form has generally dipped.You can't underestimate what Vidal brings to the table

Is there any formation like 443?

Ozkar:
you guys are seriously underestimating Vidal. I used to do the same too. I thought he simply ran around committing fouls. It's only in recent games I've understood his purpose. Every player have their role. Vidal is more of a Rakitic and Busquets kind of player, do the dirty work and sometimes don't get any recognition.

Arthur cannot do the work Vidal does. That's why Arthur always plays with Rakitic and Vidal. For all his expertise at passing and holding on to the ball, he isn't that great defensively. That's why EV does not play Arthur and Coutinho together in midfield.

You just stated more reason why E.V is a coward n a mini mourinho simple...

Adiwana:
He doesn't need to surprise anybody as he has either played very good or very bad.No in betweens so i dont really see any extra ordinary performance hes going to put in.And most of the times he's really been in his game,he has put in that 2015 Juventus performance.As i already said,him being busy is covering Semedo.

If you watched Vidal at Juventus.Then,you will know he likes sprinting into the box to challenge for balls.Thats not what he does in this team.Hes job is to stop teams from attacking and as i said,he's doing it very well

Lol... When has he been in his game in barca colours? Y'all still celebrated Paulinho b4 the coach realised his transfer was a mistake... so I won't even go further on this Vidal matter.

Adiwana:
We lost that game because of Valverde and Valverde alone.He messed up that champions league match and if had put up that Stamford Bridge performance we won't have lost that game at all. But with Paulinho,we went almost unbeaten and lost only 3 games all season. Controlling the midfield alone won't win us the champions league.We didn't need to completely boss the midfield against Chelsea but we knocked them out.Thats what we need Vidal for

I laugh in swahili...Let's see how Vidal 'll surprise us. Vidal is Willian's version of a midfielder right now... they're are the busiest on the pitch.. heat map 'll be showing them everywhere, but when you check deeper than those stats, they've been doing nothing.

Adiwana:
Mini Mourinho??Lmao Won't call him mini Mourinho when he comes to his midfield selections though.Its just his substitutions and front 3 especially consistently playing Suarez is where he is.

I can't really convince you to like Vidal though but to say he contributes nothing is really laughable

Funny enough, I admire Vidal from afar, never wanted him at my club talkless of this old Vidal that often runs out of ideas..

Adiwana:
What was then the function of Paulinho?? It was Paulinho,Rakitic and Busquet.He started most of our games.But Vidal is really an upgrade from him as Paulinho only functioned very well in the 442 formation but Vidal can function in both.And with Paulinho we weren't flexible as we were rigid but with Vidal it's different.You have to understand that we are no more playing the Iniesta and Xavi kind of football and have to come to terms that players that do not have our DNA can equally function very well in this club

Did I not state it clearly here that Paulinho was just a waste of space? You think if we had Vidal on the bench vs Roma Last season instead of Paulinho, it would've made a difference? We needed a forward n a midfield controller in that match cos Busi was just returning from injury n ini was so old n weak, what can a Vidal do in that scenario? This 442 isn't taking us beyond la liga. We don't need to be dreaming about ini n xavi, we just need people that can control the midfield in a 3man midfield. Then 3 forwards, Vidal has no place in this team, it'll probably take valverde another year to realise this as usual... ala paulinho n malcom now.

Adiwana:
Does he make more tackles than Rakitic??Are you serious?? Who do you think wins balls for the team when he plays?? And you think he's running up and down the pitch is just to make up the 11th number of the team??When he came in yesterday,he won 100% of his tackles in under 30 mins and you think he's not important.lol. Bro,just watch him objectively and you will see what he does for us

Provide his tackles success rate in the other matches.our most entertaining matches has been without that agberi. When we had Busi, Raki n Arthur in the middle like vs spurs first leg, then ousmanne, luisito n Leo upfront. This is barca's strongest line up, but unfortunately, our mini mourinho is always scared.

Awesome01:
Haha? that's too harsh. If there's a part of his coaching you think needs improvement point it out. After all he out coached scolari in the 2 classicos back2back.

Hehehe... Solari that's in his first senior coaching job? You know how long Ibrahimovic's long nose uncle has been coaching? He's not bad in all areas sha, he's just a mini mourinho

Adiwana:
What?? Valverde's formation has always been a Box to Box,a DM and a CM. Yes,that control has lacked but defensively we have conceded less even in most recent games we have played really badly. Games Vidal played badly has seen us really shake at the back. Real Valladolid and Athletico Bilbao matches are example of those

When Iniesta was here, we played ini, raki n Busi, under same long nose valverde, raki cm, ini Am, Busi dm... Paulinho often came from the bench. Vidal offers nothing going forward, then offers yellow card at the back...passing sef, he's too average. It is what it is.

Awesome01:
Agreed. but gidigbo sometimes has its own use o.

Usefulness like how he was red carded at bayern vs madrid doing gidigbo bah? If it's gidigbo like Casemiro or Kante with sense, I'll take it.. not this brawn gidigbo