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Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 2:31pm On Nov 26, 2012
stagger: Winners has got nothing to hide. We have too much money because our God is not a poor God.
ACTUALLY U CANT BE POOR BECAUSE 'UR GOD' IS MONEY

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Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 2:32pm On Nov 26, 2012
Leadn:

Why are people replying this brain-washed "Christians" claiming loserswinners? How will a sane person be arguing that Private universities(especially church owned unis) not to pay tax claiming they "provide their own social amenities"?! Seriously?

IgnorAnce really is a deadly disease cry undecided

Actually you are right, I have come to realise that this one isn't sane. Imagine saying they shouldn't pay tax because they pay their utility bills...lmao obviously this one is a primary school drop out...SMH

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Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by OmoTier1(m): 2:35pm On Nov 26, 2012
See the foolishness of some poster rejoicing that churches will be taxed How much of the taxes they have collected from you has counted towards the nations development? What make you think same individuals will not end up looting the monies overseas as they have always done? Beside, taxing churches will only make us richer.... A river always flows...
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by IleIfe2(m): 2:42pm On Nov 26, 2012
leenu11:

Typical brain-washed pig! cry cry cry

Look who is human.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by TableLeg(m): 3:11pm On Nov 26, 2012
stagger: Winners has got nothing to hide. We have too much money because our God is not a poor God.
Moro/n
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by elbulk(m): 3:15pm On Nov 26, 2012
Kx: Most churches operates more like holding company.

Will churches (e.g winners and redeem and others) be made to report aggregate revenue from university, printing press, bakery, nursery and secondary school revenues alongside tithe,offering, pledges,etc as church gross income especially since these "branches" were set up with initial capital outlay from the church?

The other businesses already do cos they were setup as for profit organizations...the uni,bakery etc...they r pure businesses owned bt d church so they already pay tax etc,dis report talks abrt the CHURCH and MOSQUES who before nw enjoy privileges I feel r too much,as long as money comes in tax should be paid and wen I say church I mean every denomination

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Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 3:18pm On Nov 26, 2012
The problem here is that this policy will be killed before it even comes into play. Watch out how it plays out
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 3:25pm On Nov 26, 2012
Leadn:

Guilty conscience has started rolling in... They know themselves..
Guilty what?? Winners remains where they are among the Richest, if not the Richest...lol.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by manmustwac(m): 3:26pm On Nov 26, 2012
Govt should focus on fighting corrution. Taxing churches willnot stop the the mis use of church funds
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 3:29pm On Nov 26, 2012
[quote author=Babzilla]
ACTUALLY U CANT BE POOR BECAUSE 'UR GOD' IS MONEY[/quote

HE MEANT, HIS GOD MAKES MONEY...is your God poor? Stop being unnecessarily controversial.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by REVOLUTNIS: 3:41pm On Nov 26, 2012
FRC boss, Mr. Jim Osayande Obazee is just making noise. seeking for undue relevance he will never get.
charity and religious organizations all over Europe doesn't pay any tax to the government since govt doesn't
offer them any of its services. churches and mosque in Nigeria will never pay a din to the govt. the court of the land will overrule it if its brought to it. OUR PROBLEMS ARE NOT FROM THE WORSHIP CENTERS. LETS FACE OUR LEADERS.
lets face our problem and leave spiritual issues to GOD. WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL ON THIS MATTER..............
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by skyfall: 3:59pm On Nov 26, 2012
Good news. The first step on the road to taxing these places of worship. It's not only churches though. Groups like NASFAT also make a lot of money.

Gov Fashola, wink-wink. I know this news gladdens your heart. But seriously govt will make a hell (pun intended) of money from these places of worship.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by otokx(m): 4:00pm On Nov 26, 2012
This is just some exercise in futility with no enabling laws
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by mickeymimi: 4:23pm On Nov 26, 2012
In the UK, individual churches are classed as charities under UK law and therefore do not pay tax in the normal way. They can, however, claim tax back on the sums given by those who wish to donate using 'gift aid' if they themselves are a taxpayer, and in addition, churches receive gross interest (rather than net) on any money lodged in bank accounts. This is the common state of affairs for all organisations in the UK with official charitable status.
However, the vast majority of churches are funded solely from donations from their members or from fundraising and receive no handouts from the state. Their money goes mostly to paying their clergy, huge general running costs - heat, light, insurances, service costs (like hymnbooks, bread, wine etc), copyright licences, and maintenance amongst many orhers
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by bibigirl07: 4:23pm On Nov 26, 2012
Flamboyant lifestyles by Pastors and clergymen has given a rise to this affront. Churches and mosques shouldn't be profit making outfits. Over priced tuition and flying jets propagators shld be taxed. Orthodox churches should be left out of this insult cos O.L.A primary schools and ansaurdeen are still free tuition schools.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by lanrefront1(m): 4:26pm On Nov 26, 2012
stagger: Winners has got nothing to hide. We have too much money because our God is not a poor God.

So, since you say you have too much money,exactly how much of the money do you have access to?

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Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by mickeymimi: 4:27pm On Nov 26, 2012
ezeuba:

Which planet do u live on? So any entity that doesn't receive money from govt should not pay tax? I should let my admin/finance know about this so they should stop deducting taxes from my salary. If u went to school at all then ur parents or whoever sponsored u has made a very bad investment...


The problem is that mankind is capable of corrupting God's purpose in the government and in churches. This create a conflict, which ultimately may issue in taxation of churches.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by shyna501: 4:39pm On Nov 26, 2012
See Wetin private jet don cause...
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 5:07pm On Nov 26, 2012
Whobedatte: Good One, Let the church give what is meant for 'Ceasar unto Ceasar.
Number 1 question: Will it actually be given to Ceasar??
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Standing5(m): 5:09pm On Nov 26, 2012
tatiana009:

You're obviously a retard since you do not even know the difference between profit and non-proit. As for subsidy its simply if an OAU student pays 50K max and 1 in a Church owned university pays 200K plus, the differnce is obviously subsidized by the government minus the cost of some services which may not be provided by a public school. All in all we all know that no public school records a profit unlike the private ones no matter if its Church or pagan that owns it.

Oh boy, its now obvious that you didn't even go to school. I haven't come across anyone as slow as you in a long time o. Abeg that thing inside your skull is there for a reason pls try and use it once in a while ok. If not you can always get a good price for it since its obviously never been used...SMH

Don't you as an individual pay your utility bills? Does this exempt you in any country from still paying your tax? You're really slow o, maybe they need to lay hands on you.
slowpoke, are u saying the Government should subsidize the private unis also, if not where does the money come from then?
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 5:10pm On Nov 26, 2012
emusmith:
Guilty what?? Winners remains where they are among the Richest, if not the Richest...lol.
So you now measure church with wealth...na wa o! I don't understand some people......
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Alldruns: 5:12pm On Nov 26, 2012
Interesting! Mosques are nt part of d runs! And by d way, is like if Redeem church is nt mentioned in articles, such write ups are nt complete. Whats funny abt dis church. Is it d ONLY church dey where offerings/tithes are collected?
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by real28: 6:02pm On Nov 26, 2012
Is churches and mosques really a business venture? If yes, how? And where is the outlay really coming from,tax payers to government or directly from government. Does this mean tax payer will be taxed twice?
Love this idea but i think some issues has to be analyse critically. Moreso, universities owned by churches and mosques should be levied other than the latter and former.taxing d church is a misplaced priority among priorities that is creeping the economy.hence, showing their financial transactions should not amount to them being levied.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Degis(m): 6:14pm On Nov 26, 2012
Jim Obazee has started what will eventually consume him. Mark my words
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by yoged(m): 6:24pm On Nov 26, 2012
mickeymimi: In the UK, individual churches are classed as charities under UK law and therefore do not pay tax in the normal way. They can, however, claim tax back on the sums given by those who wish to donate using 'gift aid' if they themselves are a taxpayer, and in addition, churches receive gross interest (rather than net) on any money lodged in bank accounts. This is the common state of affairs for all organisations in the UK with official charitable status.
However, the vast majority of churches are funded solely from donations from their members or from fundraising and receive no handouts from the state. Their money goes mostly to paying their clergy, huge general running costs - heat, light, insurances, service costs (like hymnbooks, bread, wine etc), copyright licences, and maintenance amongst many orhers
awesome. That's the point
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by PastorKun(m): 6:37pm On Nov 26, 2012
Good move smiley
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by PastorKun(m): 6:40pm On Nov 26, 2012
Degis: Jim Obazee has started what will eventually consume him. Mark my words

Only churches/mosques that have something to hide would be afraid of rendering accounts.

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Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Nobody: 6:52pm On Nov 26, 2012
This will be tough to enforce. Surely the Universities and other commercial businesses should be made to pay taxes or other fees they should, but taxing the religious places of worship will be tough to pull off.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by baby124: 7:09pm On Nov 26, 2012
All they need to do is add tithes to the tax forms. people should declare what they paid as tithes to the church so they can write it off to a certain extent. The Feds now have an estimate of the earnings of the church. If the church disproves it, they will have to argue it out with their member and show proof.Also, tax heavily the salaries of the teachers or workers of the establishments if they refuse to declare financials.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by OsunOriginal: 7:28pm On Nov 26, 2012
Standing5: Don't you think it will be dumb to tax some student through their schools and the proceed used to fund other students education in public schools where admission isn't by merit? Winners Uni as far as i am concerned has nothing to hide. Let our crooked government come out and tell us the average cost that goes into each public school student per year and let's compare it to public school or Winners Uni in particular and you see why Private Schools are Justified.

Shut up dumbo - are you saying those private university where students pay millions of naira per annum are not making profit? What government will tax is the profit they make from their business. And if a church is buying anything that is not for charity, the property or business must be submitted for full taxation and all the people working in such business must also pay their full payee. Otherwise, they risk being locked up.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by OsunOriginal: 7:43pm On Nov 26, 2012
Omo_Tier1: See the foolishness of some poster rejoicing that churches will be taxed How much of the taxes they have collected from you has counted towards the nations development? What make you think same individuals will not end up looting the monies overseas as they have always done? Beside, taxing churches will only make us richer.... A river always flows...

And are we better off with the money in the hands of pastors/churches? What value will their stretched limo and provate jets add to the ordinary man on the street?

Policians can't still all the money - at least they will patch road, etc with some of money even if they only spend 20%.

Mr church business supporter, the money (tax) is better in the hand of politicians than in the of luxury loving pastors/churches and their gullible dumb followers like you.
Re: Churches, Mosques To Report Their Financial Transactions From January by Zet72(m): 8:02pm On Nov 26, 2012
OsunOriginal:

And are we better off with the money in the hands of pastors/churches? What value will their stretched limo and provate jets add to the ordinary man on the street?

Policians can't still all the money - at least they will patch road, etc with some of money even if they only spend 20%.

Mr church business supporter, the money (tax) is better in the hand of politicians than in the of luxury loving pastors/churches and their gullible dumb followers like you.
Slowpoke what are u saying,the offering&tithe giving to God,should be best in politicians ,hand what a slowpoke u are

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