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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:49am On Sep 01
1 Timothy 4:11 These things command and teach. 4:12 Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery. 4:15 Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:52am On Sep 01
1 Timothy 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession; 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; 6:18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; 6:19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:59am On Sep 01
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 10:02am On Sep 01
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 10:06am On Sep 01
2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. 4:6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 4:7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:27pm On Sep 01
John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Frankempire(m): 7:58pm On Sep 02
[quote author=HumbledbYGrace post=13122478]This Thread is for Nairaland Religion Community and all interested to enjoy a chat with one another. It is NOT a debate platform. It is simply a place where Christians can meet with each other daily, leave Bible verses of encouragement, motivational talks, leave prayer requests,offer prayers, provide a listening ear to each other, provide comfort, care for one another, talk about issues of concern and interest, share knowledge, provide love, spiritual and moral support.


* This is not a platform to discriminate against any religion,belief,culture, tradition or way of life. It is neither a place for others to judge or discriminate against other denomination. 'All for Christ, Christ for all.' We respectfully request NL members, guests or any pop-ins to grant us this sanctuary, to discuss and meet in peace and tranquility. It would be appropriate to refrain from using inappropriate language that may offend others.


Every one that feel that they have anything to offer to be a blessing to this post, or to those posting here, are welcome to do so. If anyone needs advice and prayers for any needs, hurts, pains, unhappiness, illness, unemployment, housing or any other needs than please post here. Anyone that can help that is here at the time just jump right in to assist. This is NOT my thread,but belong to all of us!Drop in every day even just to say hi or only to read. Leave your footprint here in the form of a blessing!

This is an opportunity to make a new beginning.Start afresh, renew commitments, get enthusiastic and allow the Power of God to move you to new heights!

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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Adedotguy: 3:33am On Sep 03
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by olawaleroc: 3:39am On Sep 03
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by alxb19: 10:52am On Sep 03
Who is interested to start a web-based bible study and prayer group?

I led several bible study groups in the past in an evangelical background. I live in Germany and I have the impression from God that I should offer a bible study group in Nigeria.

alxb
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 1:13pm On Sep 03
A Christian/Born-again/Believer/Disciple of Jesus Christ is a person who *willingly accepts the cost of salvation in Christ Jesus*. This cost has 2-sides(advantage and disadvantage)
Advantage... Eternal Life
Disadvantage...death of the flesh.
This death of the flesh entails death of the human-will both to do good and evil(once and forever) then the *eternal-life* is the *incarnate-life of Christ as God and man* dwelling, growing and living in the same mortal body that was once *controlled by the flesh* just like it happened from conception till ascension of Jesus Christ when he was on his mortal-body on earth. "All those who belong to Christ *have put to death/crucified the flesh* with all *its passions and desires*" (Gal.5:24) then "if anyone is born of the Spirit let the Holy Spirit *rule* control you" (Gal.5:25). The formula for knowing His Will is consistent communication with His Holy Spirit either through direct conversation with Him inside our hearts, searching through the Scriptures to *be filled with more of Jesus Christ* thus "be filled with the Holy Spirit and *you will no longer desire carnal-pleasures*"(Gal.5:16), "the Holy Spirit will be with you forever" (John 14:16), "for it is God at work inside you now both to will and do his good pleasures"(Phil.2:13). Even though Paul in Acts.16:6-7 on 2 occasions willed to preach in Phrygia and Bythnia but the Spirit of Christ stopped them. It was a good-will but it was not approved by God. Hence seeking mercy in order to receive grace for Divine-will approval on every step of our lives is *consistent till eternity* even Jesus Christ sought Divine-Will approval 3-times on a particular issue(Matt.26:36-39). Being conscious of God's will, seeking it consistently no matter how negligible any thought, desire, plan, decisions or engagement of our mortal-body should be at the beginning, middle and conclusions of all our lifestyle. Great Grace!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:13pm On Sep 03
This is the *grace of God* that Jesus Christ *tasted death for every human being* (Hebrews 2:9)
Therefore there is no human being born in any religion that will be exempted from *eternal damnation* for rejecting the Gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified
Whether you were born into Christianity or not, whether you are ordained or lay-person, financially-rich or poor, sick or healthy, literate or illiterate
Thus "for the grace of God has been revealed to *all human being* which makes them to receive salvation (by believing the gospel), this same grace teaches us how to reject/resist sin, this same grace teaches us how to reject/resist worldly passions/lists, this same grace teaches us how to live holy-life, righteous lifestyle self-controlled living on this earth/generation/unstable-economy not *when we die and go to heaven" (Titus 2:11-12)
There is *a grave warning* that goes with the the gospel thus "John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
However as long as any human being is still alive, he can decide to *believe the Gospel anytime* but no human being is assured of being alive the next second that is why the best time to *use grace is now* (2 Cor.6:1-2)
The moment to use grace in order to receive genuine salvation is now.
Sincerity is very important because the person you are speaking to inside your heart/mind or with your mouth is God; who searches and sees the hearts of men then discerns who is saying what he/she means and meaning what is said thus "no human being can mock/deceive God; whatever any human being sows(Spirit/sincerity or flesh/insincerity), he/she shall reap"
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 11:07am On Sep 04
You need to be *sincerely born-again* read John 3:1-9, ask Jesus Christ Crucified to *born you again* once and forever through His Holy Spirit, your flesh which produces sin will die *once and forever* then Jesus nature(God and Man) will come into your same mortal-body which committed sin before and start living His Holy Life without sin consistently till eternity while you live on this earth through His grace, faith and love while achieving results in any aspect of human endeavor he chooses to carry your mortal-body as His Divine-Will.
*Sincerity in being born-again by Jesus Christ is the most important requirement*, if you are not sincere the flesh which produces sin will still be *alive inside you pretending to be holy while it keeps producing self-righteuosness and different kinds/types/styles of sin* no matter how many times you go for sacramental confessions, do penance, do mortification, do fasting and prayers. It is possible that you will be *born-again* by Jesus Christ by engaging in any sacrament, prayers, bible-studies, fellowship with the brethren in Christ Jesus *if and only if you are sincere that is you mean what you are saying to God and say what you really mean to God* bearing in mind that God is A SPIRIT and he sees the hearts of men and knows those *who are genuinely sincere* thus "God's righteous standard has not reduced/changed, *He(God) knows those who are genuinely/truly his own*, let any man/woman who calls on the name of Jesus Christ stay away from sin and anything in the appearance of sin" (2 Timothy 2:19), only Jesus Christ stayed away from sin while having a human body and living on this earth filled with sin hence we do not need to tame/subdue/suppress/disciple our flesh rather we *must* exchange/replace our flesh(human will that can choose good or bad not our skin) with Jesus Christ flesh (born-again reality) and this is the *only possible solution* for every human being regardless of your religious background whether you were born into Christian home or any other religion in this world.
Jesus Christ was the only person that was *pleasing to His God-nature as the Father and Creator of the world Thus "this is my beloved Son in whom I am *well-pleased*, Listen to Him" (Matt.17:5) hence there is nothing any human being can do on this earth that can be *pleasing to God* unless it is Jesus Christ doing it through *that person* which can only be possible if such a person having considered *the cost of being born-again/receiving salvation which has advantage(eternal-life) and disadvantage (death of the flesh which is our human will that chooses whether to commit righteousness or unrighteousness not our skin)* then *willingly and sincerely accepts this Divine exchange/replacement* A dead person cannot commit sin or righteousness again. It is Jesus Christ now living through your mortal-body the same life he lived while He was on earth from conception till ascension. If you still see your secret-thoughts, private-lifestyle or public engagements still manifesting any sin or anything in the appearance of sin, it means you have not received the New-life of Jesus Christ, you are not a born-again/Christian/Believer/Disciple of Jesus Christ yet. The reason is *insincerity on your own part as a human being* not because Jesus Christ is not *eager to save/come into your life*, His eagerness and willingness to save *every human being from eternal-damnation* is seen in the *fact that He left heaven, came to earth, became like us human being(his creatures yet without sin), accepted to pay the price for our eternal-death/damnation caused by the sin we committed, it was while we were still committing these sins with impunity in his eyes as human and God that he went-ahead to accept crucifixion on the cross like a thief, even when He saw that after he dies on the cross to save us from sin some persons will still reject his unmerited gift of grace(salvation)-continue in sin and die in sin, He yet accepted to give His Life as a ransom hence *equal choice is given to all human being*. The best and most important thing for any human being to do on this earth at any point in time as long as you still have breath in your lungs is to *use the grace of God now*, every person has *received the grace of God* (Titus 2:11-12) However it is not every person that is using this grace of God.
Those who *use the grace of God* has received the New-Life/Being/Person (Jesus Christ) in exchange for their dead/crucified flesh. Jesus Christ is the *fullness of grace and truth*(John 1:14-16) just like He took flesh in the womb of Virgin Mary and from conception till ascension He did not sin however he encountered temptations and trials which he pulled through without committing sin or denying his nature as God hence even as you carry Jesus Christ in your mortal-body temptations and testing will come consistently yet Jesus Christ living inside your mortal-body will pull through them without committing sin or denying His God-nature.
If any fruits of the flesh(Gal.5:19-21 though this list is endless outside of what is contained in this passage) is still manifesting in the secret of your thoughts, in your private lifestyle or public engagements; do not give-up seeking for genuine born-again-reality with Jesus Christ Crucified and do not pretend to yourself or allow any preacher to tell you *all is well/God understands* because human beings like you are living this same Holy Life of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on this earth(Romans 11:4-6) while facing the same or more terrible challenges/difficulties/persecutions/sicknesses/deprivations/intimidations/wickedness/hunger/financial-lacks-instabilities/depressions/emotional-traumas/blackmail/betrayals/limitations/disabilities e.t.c.
Ask the Holy Spirit to help you *become sincere* in receiving Jesus Christ Life into your mortal-body and you will have *effective impartation of His Life inside you*.
When he enters into our mortal-body, he grows at the speed, style and choice of human endeavor He wills for our individual lifestyle. He is *sufficient* for all the *individual mortal-bodies on this earth* because He is God Our Creator and Originator. Great Grace!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 12:30pm On Sep 04
Say no to any form of killing or looting of another person property under the disguise of *revenge*
If you kill a new person because of another person previously murdered under the verge of retaliation the murdered person will not come back to life morestill any person who claims to be *carrying the Life of Jesus Christ* inside his/her mortal-body should be able to forgive willingly prompted by the Spirit of Christ Jesus inside him/her however the killings carried out by those South African indigenes is evil and callous therefore their government should address such individuals with adequate justice defined by the law of their country immediately to serve as a deterrent for every person.
Let no Nigerian attack any South African indigenes in Nigeria or their company because it is evil in God's eyes furthermore if the law of Nigeria gets you, you will serve the penalty *alone*. Attack on their company which is franchised by most Nigerians will harm your fellow Nigerians more even render more people jobless.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Xanderlex: 6:09am On Sep 05
As Christians, how does one go to heaven?
Are we judged by all our actions right from when we were born and God compares the good to all the bad we have done?
Or
At the point of death, what was our standing with God?
Kindly provide scriptural backings to buttress your point. Thanks
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:24am On Sep 05
Matthew 13:44 "Again, the *kingdom of heaven* is like *unto treasure hid in a field*; the which when *a man hath found, he hideth*, and for *joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath*, and *buyeth that field*. 13:45 Again, the *kingdom of heaven* is like unto *a merchant man*, seeking *goodly pearls*: 13:46 Who, *when he had found one pearl of great price*, went and *sold all that he had, and bought it*."
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by alxb19: 12:20pm On Sep 05
Xanderlex:
As Christians, how does one go to heaven?
Are we judged by all our actions right from when we were born and God compares the good to all the bad we have done?
Or
At the point of death, what was our standing with God?
Kindly provide scriptural backings to buttress your point. Thanks

On the one hand we will simply be judged by all our actions (actions in a wider sense: physical actions, words, what we did and what we did not do, etc.) [Rev. 30:12 "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done."]

On the other hand one can wonder how the relation is between beeing saved by Jesus and our actions. We know from 1Jo 5:12 "Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." that the most important issue of our life is whether we are saved or not and this depends solely on our relationship to Jesus. If we "have the Son" then we are saved, and if not, then not. Or with other words: if we have faith in Jesus, then we are saved, and if not, then not.
So one can wonder: ok, I trust in Jesus, but what about my actions? Will I be judged by my faith or by my actions?
The answer is clear from the Bible: No person can be saved by his/her actions naturally. Every person is an evil person from his/her birth. [Rom. 3:10 "as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one"].
The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross is the solution to this problem. Jesus took all our evil actions and died for us as a sacrifice. God only demands from us to trust in Jesus. When we do that, then he justifies us. [Ac 16:31 "And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”", and Rom. 5:1 "Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."]

Still, everyone will stand before His throne, also we as Christians, and everyone will be held accountable for his/her life. But the major point will be if we are justified by our faith in Jesus, or if we have rejected this grace and may be hope to somehow smuggle ourselfes into Heaven or if we have said: "I do not believe in God and hence there is no God" and then be quite surprised.

Does this answer your question?

alxb
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Xanderlex: 2:15pm On Sep 05
alxb19:


On the one hand we will simply be judged by all our actions (actions in a wider sense: physical actions, words, what we did and what we did not do, etc.) [Rev. 30:12 "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done."]

On the other hand one can wonder how the relation is between beeing saved by Jesus and our actions. We know from 1Jo 5:12 "Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life." that the most important issue of our life is whether we are saved or not and this depends solely on our relationship to Jesus. If we "have the Son" then we are saved, and if not, then not. Or with other words: if we have faith in Jesus, then we are saved, and if not, then not.
So one can wonder: ok, I trust in Jesus, but what about my actions? Will I be judged by my faith or by my actions?
The answer is clear from the Bible: No person can be saved by his/her actions naturally. Every person is an evil person from his/her birth. [Rom. 3:10 "as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one"].
The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross is the solution to this problem. Jesus took all our evil actions and died for us as a sacrifice. God only demands from us to trust in Jesus. When we do that, then he justifies us. [Ac 16:31 "And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”", and Rom. 5:1 "Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."]

Still, everyone will stand before His throne, also we as Christians, and everyone will be held accountable for his/her life. But the major point will be if we are justified by our faith in Jesus, or if we have rejected this grace and may be hope to somehow smuggle ourselfes into Heaven or if we have said: "I do not believe in God and hence there is no God" and then be quite surprised.

Does this answer your question?

alxb,
I'm sorry but you confused me more. Your first paragraph seems to buttress the first point of God judging us based on all our life work but your remaining statement confuses me
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 4:07am On Sep 06
There are realms outside of earth, heaven and hell were human souls can exist after death.
Sheol
Hades
Sea
Land of the dead
Paradise
Bossom of Abraham.
They are all written in the Holy Bible.
Revelation 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne and Him who was seated upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them [for this heaven and earth are passing away]. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the Book of Life; and the dead were judged according to what they had done as written in the books [that is, everything done while on earth]. 13 And the *sea* gave up the dead who were in it, and *death* and *Hades* (the realm of the dead) surrendered the dead who were in them; and they were judged and sentenced, every one according to their deeds. 14 Then *death and Hades [the realm of the dead]* were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire [the eternal separation from God]. 15 And if [a]anyone’s name was not found [b]written in the Book of Life, he was hurled into the lake of fire."

Jesus went to this realm of the dead to preach the gospel to all who lived and died from Adam till his crucifixion *without hearing the gospel* thus 1 Peter 3:18-20 "For indeed Christ died for sins once for all, *the Just and Righteous for the unjust and unrighteous [the Innocent for the guilty] so that He might bring us to God*, having been put to death in the flesh, *but made alive in the Spirit; 19 in which He also went and preached to 'the spirits' now in prison*, 20 who once were *disobedient*, when the great patience of God was waiting in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons [Noah’s family], were brought safely through the water."

These people who did not hear the *gospel of salvation in Christ Jesus* and did not *use grace (grace which has been given to *all human being from creation/biological-birth* just like Adam and Eve had and used for communicating with God in Genesis 1&2 without disobedience to God before they stopped using it and listened to Satan in Genesis 3 then they disobeyed God)* will be in torment to receive *few strokes* because they *had grace from child-birth* but did not have *the full grace(gospel of Jesus Christ)* which teaches them how to receive salvation, which is what our Master and Creator wants us to achieve on this earth and also the primary purpose of giving us *grace* however those who have *grace from biological birth* and *fullness of grace(heard about the gospel of Jesus Christ while living on this earth)* whether they are born into Christianity or any other religion will receive *uncountable strokes(eternal damnation)* if they insist on rejecting the gospel of Jesus Christ till their individual biological death
thus
"And that servant who *knew his master’s will(heard the gospel of Jesus Christ)*, and *yet did not get ready or act in accord with his will*, will be *beaten with many/uncountable lashes [of the whip](eternal damnation)*, 48 but *the one who did not know it and did things worthy of a beating*, will *receive only a few [lashes](torment of Hades)*. From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more"
In the torment of Hades the *rich-man* who failed to *use grace* which makes human being to choose only doing good things like feeding the hungry, caring for the sick e.t.c without hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ in your entire human existence was found in Luke 16:23-26 and from there he saw Lazarus whom he neglected in the Bossom of Abraham.
Even now many people are still *dieying without hearing the sound/unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified* and they did *not use grace* hence at their biological death the same Jesus Christ who went to preach to the imprisoned spirits(1 Peter 3:18-20) also reaches out to them through His Life of the Gospel now at work inside those who are genuine Christians/Born-again/Believers/Disciples of Jesus Christ whether we know their names or not, whether they are our family members or not, whether they were buried officially or not because Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever hence he gives every human being equal-chance(grace and fullness of grace) in order to satisfy His Divine message. This is the *work* of Christ Jesus inside us now who is God and Spirit, making things happen in the heaven, on earth and under the earth at the same time without anybody's approval. These dead person will also make their choice to accept or reject the gospel as they hear it from the Lord's mouth just like the living.
Then those who *used grace* while they lived on earth *without hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ* are called *the just/righteous* according to 1 Peter 3:18-20 from the beginning of creation till the second coming of Jesus Christ. All of them still needs to hear the gospel and believe it before they will receive eternal-life/heaven because Jesus Christ is the *first fruit from the dead* (1 Cor.15:18-20) and the *only way to the Father*(John 14:6) hence we saw Elijah who was taken up by the chariots of fire into heaven(2 kings 2:11) and Moses who was buried by God on mount Nebo(Deut.34:1-8 ) encouraging Jesus Christ at the transfiguration to pay the *ultimate price of His Life as a ransom for all human being("He made peace between God and human-nature by the blood of His cross" Col.1:20) that will open the door for them to enter *the main Heaven* where the Father dwells because until that time *all of them were still in waiting* for Jesus Christ alone came from Heaven because He is God where His Divine-nature as Father dwells and He alone is the *door of the sheep/the only way to the Father* (John 10:7, John 14:6, Hebrews 10:19-20) hence immediately he died on the cross and rose from the dead, these just and righteous men arose from there graves, went into the Holy city and appeared unto many people (Matt.27:52-53).

These are the category of people that can be forgiven their sin and receive eternal-life if they accept the gospel of Jesus Christ from the realm of the dead as Jesus declared in Matthew 12:31-32 as sin not against the Holy Spirit which can be forgiven in the world to come(in the realm/land of the dead and at the white throne judgment for those who rejected the gospel and those who did not hear the gospel according to Revelation 20:11-15). It does not have anything to do with those who heard the gospel and were still committing *small-sin and died committing small-sin* because those who have heard the gospel and believed the gospel cannot manifest sin in the secret of their thoughts/imagination, privacy of their lifestyle and their public engagements since *they are dead and Jesus Christ is the person living through their mortal-bodies*. There is nothing like small sin or big sin because any type/style/kind is produced by *the same person (flesh not our skin rather our human-will that can choose good or evil)*. This flesh is not tamed/controlled//disciples rather *crucified/put to death only by Jesus Christ* together with His flesh crucified *once and forever* on Calvary then in-exchange/replacement of our dead/crucified flesh, Jesus Christ pours Himself (God and Man) into our mortal-body then we experience all these in 1-second of sincere desire to be born-again by the Spirit of Jesus Christ Crucified thus the same body that was controlled by the flesh, enticed and aroused by sin will now walk through the same temptations, trials and tribulations without committing sin or denying God because it is Christ Jesus that now lives through His grace and faith in that same mortal-body consistently without sin and submission to trials, testing and temptations from one degree of glory to a higher degree of glory; this is *born-again-reality* for any human being who hears the gospel is *willingly sincere to receive the New Life of Christ Jesus Crucified*. 1 John 5:16-17 was not talking about small sin and big sin rather any type/style/kind of sin that be committed by any human being while still alive on this earth thus "if any man *see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death (any sin which is not continued until biological death), he shall ask(talk to him/her about it by presenting the gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified which is the only remedy for sin/flesh) and he shall give him life(eternal-life which is produced by the *gospel alone* inside any person who genuinely believes) for them that sin *not unto death*. There is *a sin unto death*: I do not say that *he(the same person who can offer the gospel remedy to the person who commits a sin not unto death is not advised/encouraged to pray for the person who commits a sin until his/her biological death)* shall pray for it, all *unrighteousness is sin*: and there is a sin not unto death" (1 John 5:16-17 KJV), according to some doctrines were this scriptural passage was *wrongly translated*, it states that there is small-sin and big-sin however these big sins can be forgiven if the person sincerely repents from them however this scriptural passage advised that the same person who could help a brother found committing sin not unto death *should not pray* for the person found committing a sin *unto death* and to confirm this verse-18 declared "we know that whosoever is born of God *sinneth not*; but he that is *begotten(born) of God keepeth himself* and that wicked one toucheth him not". 1 Cor.3:11-15 is not making reference to those who after believing the gospel of Jesus Christ, committed small-sin or after being forgiven by Jesus Christ will still do something to satisfy God for the effects of sin already washed and forgiven by the *only atoning-blood* of Christ Jesus Crucified rather from verse-1 we can see Paul addressing a wrong-impression among those who are *supposed to be genuine Christians/Born-again/Believers/Disciples of Jesus Christ* arguing about who belongs to Apollo's or Paul were each of them is being regarded as a superior teacher of the gospel, Paul told them that neither himself or apollos is *the foundation of Christianity rather Christ Jesus* but *those who believed the gospel through either of them is their 'works in Christ Jesus' even as they 'co-labour' with God in his household (the body of Christ/Believers)*, Paul also confirms that whether he planted the gospel in their lives and Apollos watered/nurtured them through discipleship what matters is that God(Christ Jesus) is the *only being* that makes their works(believers) to grow, he went further to state that each Disciples/Gospel-teachers works(those who believed through their teachings) will be tasted through fire(temptations, trials, tribulations, testing) and if they are *genuine disciples/Christians/born-again/believers* they will not fall into any sin or reject/deny Jesus Christ as Lord till eternity hence their teacher will *receive a reward for allowing the life of Christ Jesus Crucified inside him/her to be transferred unto other human being* while those who did not receive the gospel and were pretending to belong to the brethren will pass through the same fire(trials, temptations, testing) but will *not persevere* because of *their insincerity* however *their teacher will be saved because he was sincere in allowing the genuine gospel life of Jesus Christ to be transferred unto those they encountered but as someone who passed through fire(the pains and agony of a teacher/disciple who taught those brethren surrounding him/her consistently have sincerely received the gospel just like Judas among the 12-disciples as well as the confusions and set-backs such a person will be igniting amongst those who want to be sincere in receiving the gospel just like Hymenaus and Alexander in 1 Timothy 1:20). we learnt the wrong translations and interpretation of this scripture before and were zealously teaching the wrong things but now the Holy Spirit has shown us mercy by revealing his sound teaching let us not fail to use this grace and adjust adequately now. Hades and death bring-out all the human being waiting inside it, present them for judgment before the throne then Hades and death will be cast into the lake of fire(the second death) hence it is a *temporal-state* where those human souls which did not hear the gospel could stay, hear the gospel from Jesus Christ like he did for those persons in 1 Peter 3:18-20 or wait till the white throne judgment according to Revelation 20:11-15. Sin against the Holy Spirit is *hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ while living on this earth and rejecting it till biological death* because *the gospel is the 'only route/means' God decided to use to give full salvation to every human being*(Romans 1:16, John 14:6) hence if you reject the gospel of grace that *can save you while living on earth till your biological death*, you have condemned yourself to eternal death and no prayer not even Jesus Christ can save you
Thus
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that *whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life*.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that *believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already*, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
(John 3:16-18 kjv)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:27am On Sep 06
Xanderlex:
As Christians, how does one go to heaven?
Are we judged by all our actions right from when we were born and God compares the good to all the bad we have done?
Or
At the point of death, what was our standing with God?
Kindly provide scriptural backings to buttress your point. Thanks
A Christian is *judged* at the point and instant date he became a genuine Christian/born-again/believer/disciple of Jesus Christ just like Jesus was judged for *all the sins of mankind on the day he died on Calvary* thus "It is finished"(John 19:30)
When you become a genuine Christian/born-again/believer/disciple of Jesus Christ by grace through faith *your old self or human-will or flesh(which can commit righteousness or unrighteousness not our skin/mortal-body)* is Crucified/killed/put-to-death by Jesus Christ who will join our flesh together with His crucified flesh on the cross of Calvary to bring about this reality hence we become dead(living with the *consciousness of being dead/crucified together with Jesus Christ* on the cross and our dead old-self/flesh being replaced by the LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST AS GOD AND MAN INSEPARABLE is what Jesus Christ meant in all the gospels where he was saying unless you deny the whole world, even deny yourself and carry your cross daily and follow me, you cannot be my disciple/Christian/born-again not when you are facing trials, difficulties, temptations or challenges of life).

Our human-will/flesh/old-self which can choose to commit righteousness or unrighteousness is dead therefore we can no longer manifest righteousness or unrighteousness however our dead flesh/human-will/old-self is *replaced/exchanged* with the NEW LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST (God and Man inseparable) just like He took flesh in the womb of Virgin Mary ("and the WORD 'took flesh' and dwelt among us" John 1:14) from conception he grew gradually, baptized John his fore-runner and Elizabeth with the Holy Spirit while inside the womb, came out of the womb the same way he entered the womb without breaking the cord-of-virginity in her mother's body just like he entered the womb without any human being having sexual intercourse with her mother, from childhood till his ascension he went about his daily endeavor *without sin* even as he passed through temptations and trials yet was human and God inseparable at every tick of time however you will not have a protruding stomach like Virgin or any other pregnant woman but like Jesus Christ who was having a mortal-body like any other human being but was still carrying *the fullness of His God-nature/Divinity* inside his body and still controlling the whole universe (Heaven, earth and under-world) at the same time, you will be carrying God and Man inseparable inside the same old mortal-body that used to commit sin through His grace and faith.

Your mortal-body will become controlled by this New-Life of Jesus Christ inside you (consciously and unconsciously) even as you encounter your daily endeavours (trials, temptations, pleasures, miracles) hence sin cannot manifest in your secret thoughts, private lifestyle or public engagements just like Jesus Christ when he was inside his own mortal-body on this earth because it is Jesus who is now living through your mortal-body in any area of endeavour he chooses to engage you on this earth through your mortal-body. Everything you have, do or say even manifested-righteousness is produced by the Spirit of Jesus Christ inside you hence you have nothing to boast about and you have no competitor only looking up to Jesus Christ inside you, communicating with Him regularly, allowing him both to will and do his good pleasures through your mortal-body by his grace through faith. When he completes his purpose inside your mortal-body on this earth before his second coming he will give your mortal-body sleep in the grave while his life is *forever inside you even at death* such that at the sound of the archangels trumpet for his second coming, his life inside you will wake you up, transform our mortal-body into immortality *instantly* and join him in the first resurrection of the righteous then sit with him on the throne receiving the crown of righteousness to reign and judge the rest of creation(Revelation 20:4-6) however if he is still engaging our mortal-body at the sound of the archangels trumpet then he shall transform our mortal-body into immortality *instantly* and we shall join the righteous sleeping in death who are woken-up and transformed into immortality by the *eternal/perpetual life of Christ Jesus dwelling inside* to meet with Jesus Christ, receive our crown of righteousness, sit with him on the throne of judgment in order to judge the rest of creation (John 5:24-29, Matt.25:31-46, 1 Thessalonian 4:13-18, 1 Cor.15:50-57, Revelation 20:4-6).

The white throne judgment recorded in Revelation 20:11-15 will be carried out by Jesus Christ Our God and Lord together with the righteous who are sitted with Him upon the throne of judgment as Revelation 20:4-6 upon those who did not hear the gospel of Jesus Christ in the earth before their biological death and those who heard the gospel and rejected it. These 2-category of human being are called *the dead* according to that passage in Revelation 20:11-15. Those who believed the gospel of Jesus Christ whether biologically dead or alive at any point in time are called *the living* because they carry inside their mortal-bodies the *indestructible/eternal/perpetual/never-ending life of God* thus "John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
And
"Romans 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living."
And
"Acts 17:28 For *inside him(Jesus Christ) we live, and move, and have our being(existence)*; as certain also of your own poets have said, For *we are also his offspring*."
And
"Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."
And
"1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. 4:17 *Herein is our love made perfect, that 'we may have boldness in the day of judgment': because as he is, so are we in this world*. 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us."

Let us bear in mind that being a genuine Christian/born-again/believer/disciple of Jesus Christ comes through *believe in Jesus Christ as God and Lord* nothing more or less, after we believe; it is Christ Jesus who now dwells inside our mortal-bodies that manifest his works of faith through us however this believe *must be sincerely done* after that person has examined the *cost of salvation* which has advantage as *eternal-life/heaven(John 1:12-13, John 6:47, John 3:16)* and disadvantage as *death of the flesh/human-will/old-self(Luke 14:25-33)* then deliberately accept to *use this grace offer from God* without being coerced, forced, manipulated into such decision whether born into a Christian home or any other religion after hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ just like Jesus Christ who willingly gave himself as a ransom to redeem *all human being* from eternal death/damnation without coercion from His Father or any other being rather to show that he and the father loves each other and are the same
thus
"John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
Great Grace!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 1:27pm On Sep 06
Grace makes available God's provision to every human being whether born-again or unbeliever in an unmerited measure however each human being must willingly *use grace* primarily to obtain salvation in Christ Jesus, it is this new life of Christ Jesus inside the mortal-body that grows from babyhood to adulthood then establishes in any area of human endeavor or vocation.
It is therefore a reality that those who are not born-again are in the wrong endeavours of life struggling through their flesh to please God and this is an impossible reality because no human being can please God without faith in Christ Jesus.
It is also a clear reality that amongst those in vocations of life(matrimony, celibacy, spinsters, bachelor, priests, pastors, reverend-sisters/brothers/monks/nuns, prophets, teachers e.t.c) many of them are in the wrong vocation by their flesh struggling to be pleasing to God which is impossible because they are not ready to *use grace* to accept salvation in Christ Jesus first so that the new life of Christ Jesus inside their mortal-bodies will now choose the vocation he wills for them on this earth.
It is a reality that so many people are joined on the altar as husband and wife or even those who joined themselves in marriage but they are not approved before God.
There are also so many on the altar as ministers *legally ordained by Church leaders or they ordained themselves* but they are not approved by God.
hence Jesus Christ declared "... except for the reason of *infidelity*, they can be separated"
This infidelity is not referring to the marriage spouse or to the church but *infidelity towards God who did not approve them to get into these vocation in the first place* because they are not *sons/heirs of God*.
This is the foundation for so many people on the altar teaching what is not the sound gospel of Jesus Christ because "it is only what is born of the Spirit that can transfer/impart Spiritual life unto those who encounter him/her while what is born of the flesh will only transfer flesh" (John 3:6)
This is also the bases for the alarming marital disintegration, domestic-violence, abuse e.t.c among those who claim to be Christians in our present generation. Marriage is an institution designed by God hence only those who are willing to use grace for the primary purpose of receiving salvation in Christ Jesus can be able to allow the new life of Christ Jesus inside their mortal-bodies to achieve God's purpose for marriage on this earth.
If these people who wrongly entered into different endeavors receive the sound gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified and believe it, the new-life of Christ Jesus will separate them from such endeavors and vocations not minding what we shall tag them using human language yet they are being lead by the genuine spirit of Christ Jesus inside them now to engage in a new endeavor and vocations of life.
Great Grace!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by alxb19: 7:04pm On Sep 06
Xanderlex:

I'm sorry but you confused me more. Your first paragraph seems to buttress the first point of God judging us based on all our life work but your remaining statement confuses me

Sorry that I confused you. Firstly, are you a christian? I ask that because the first point to do is: to pray. Because God can explain things much better than any human beeing. My words are imperfect and may be I am wrong, but God can explain things completely and perfectly.
Therefore I encourage you to pray to God that He explains this issue to You. And He will! That is the great thing about christian faith: it is not a projection, not a delusion, not a construction or even a clever lie. God really answers prayers!

He will answer you. That is 100% sure. Therefore I basically do not need to try to explain it to you better.

But in order not to appear as lazy and that I simply want to avoid to reply it, I will try:

God will judge every being, one day. He loves but He is not an idiot to let pass everything. As much as he loves every human being, He also is holy. It is not an option for him to accept an evil world where the richer become richer and poorer become poorer, where people kill others, abuse others, injure others, oppress others and much more.
Stupid people might think: why does God not simply let humanity be as it is. It is not that bad. I think, only very ignorant people can think that. The world stinks to Heaven with evil deeds and evil actions.
It is not an option to God to accept that.
The problem is that people tend to think: ok, there are evil persons, but there are also many good people and I personally am a medium good one. May be I am not a perfect person, but I am not evil. Unfortunately this is probably the biggest delusion of mankind.
Every person is evil! The Bible tells so and every person willing to see himself clearly in a mirror, must see this as well. I saw it. I was an evil person, and this I say as someone who had a "nice" childhood, I did not kill anybody, I did not rob a bank or else. But I did many other evil things. And everybody did!

Therefore, if God judged every person by his/her actions and that's it, then no one(!) would go to Heaven.

That is of course also no good option for God. He judges everybody, the Heaven remains pure, He does not need to deal further with evil people, everything seems clear and pure, but - no human would be saved, alll would be judged and eternally dead. Not really a good solution.

Therefore God found a solution, because He loves us. The solution is that He sacrificed Jesus instead of us. Jesus was judged instead of us. We only need to accept this offer and believe in Jesus. Then Jesus' righteousness becomes our righteousness.

Therefore both is right at the same time: We will stand before God and we will be judged because of our actions, but only those who accepted God's offer of Jesus' sacrifice can pass this judgement and enter Heaven. Those who might have appeared as "good people" in this world but did not accept Jesus' sacrifice will be judged and condemned. This condemnation will not because of a "missing membership" to God, but because of his/her actions! On the other hand, those who trusted in Jesus, will be justified because their "actions" are the actions of Jesus, because His righteousness became ours by our Faith in Him. The justification or condemnation will be therefore solely according to our actions.

I am not sure if I could explain it better?
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Xanderlex: 8:02pm On Sep 06
alxb19:


Sorry that I confused you. Firstly, are you a christian? I ask that because the first point to do is: to pray. Because God can explain things much better than any human beeing. My words are imperfect and may be I am wrong, but God can explain things completely and perfectly.
Therefore I encourage you to pray to God that He explains this issue to You. And He will! That is the great thing about christian faith: it is not a projection, not a delusion, not a construction or even a clever lie. God really answers prayers!

He will answer you. That is 100% sure. Therefore I basically do not need to try to explain it to you better.

But in order not to appear as lazy and that I simply want to avoid to reply it, I will try:

God will judge every being, one day. He loves but He is not an idiot to let pass everything. As much as he loves every human being, He also is holy. It is not an option for him to accept an evil world where the richer become richer and poorer become poorer, where people kill others, abuse others, injure others, oppress others and much more.
Stupid people might think: why does God not simply let humanity be as it is. It is not that bad. I think, only very ignorant people can think that. The world stinks to Heaven with evil deeds and evil actions.
It is not an option to God to accept that.
The problem is that people tend to think: ok, there are evil persons, but there are also many good people and I personally am a medium good one. May be I am not a perfect person, but I am not evil. Unfortunately this is probably the biggest delusion of mankind.
Every person is evil! The Bible tells so and every person willing to see himself clearly in a mirror, must see this as well. I saw it. I was an evil person, and this I say as someone who had a "nice" childhood, I did not kill anybody, I did not rob a bank or else. But I did many other evil things. And everybody did!

Therefore, if God judged every person by his/her actions and that's it, then no one(!) would go to Heaven.

That is of course also no good option for God. He judges everybody, the Heaven remains pure, He does not need to deal further with evil people, everything seems clear and pure, but - no human would be saved, alll would be judged and eternally dead. Not really a good solution.

Therefore God found a solution, because He loves us. The solution is that He sacrificed Jesus instead of us. Jesus was judged instead of us. We only need to accept this offer and believe in Jesus. Then Jesus' righteousness becomes our righteousness.

Therefore both is right at the same time: We will stand before God and we will be judged because of our actions, but only those who accepted God's offer of Jesus' sacrifice can pass this judgement and enter Heaven. Those who might have appeared as "good people" in this world but did not accept Jesus' sacrifice will be judged and condemned. This condemnation will not because of a "missing membership" to God, but because of his/her actions! On the other hand, those who trusted in Jesus, will be justified because their "actions" are the actions of Jesus, because His righteousness became ours by our Faith in Him. The justification or condemnation will be therefore solely according to our actions.

I am not sure if I could explain it better?





Thank you. It's clear now.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:45am On Sep 07
Hail Mary, *Full of Grace*, the Lord is with you, Blessed are you among women And blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus Christ. Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:51am On Sep 07
Revelation 12:1 "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars", the whole of Psalm 45 talk about her, it God that made her deliberately precious not because of her personal righteousness thus "Psalms 45:6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 45:8 All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. 45:9 Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand(of the king/God/Jesus Christ) did stand *the queen in gold of Ophir*. 45:10 Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; 45:11 So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him". God speaking through the psalmist using *Israelites history* as a context where a king out of his own *personal-sentiments* could marry more than one-wife but can only have one-mother thus it is only the mother of a king can be a queen. Virgin Mary being chosen by God/Jesus Christ (who is a KING) to become his mother is a Queen. The empire of her reign as queen is within the area that her Son reigns. Jesus Christ being God and the King of Heaven, earth and under-world makes her to be the Queen of Heaven, earth and under-world. Her position is at the right of the King, she is not there to manipulate God/Jesus Christ to carry out *her own will* on behalf of anybody rather she tells anybody who comes to her in order to get to Jesus Christ her Son "Do whatever He(GOD/Jesus Christ) tells you to do(according to His Gospel teachings)" {John 2:5} hence anybody who claims to have devotion towards Mother Mary while rejecting the unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ and living in sin while hoping that Virgin Mary will *manipulate Jesus Christ* to accept him/her into heaven is *joking/playing with eternal-damnation/hell-fire* here is a story that illustrates that she as queen *cannot manipulate the King* to accept into his kingdom those who reject the gospel and die in sin under the disguise that Virgin Mary will pray for them and they will enter heaven read 1 Kings 2:12-25.
1 Kings 2:12 Then sat Solomon upon the throne of David his father; and his kingdom was established greatly. 2:13 And Adonijah the son of Haggith came to Bathsheba the mother of Solomon. And she said, Comest thou peaceably? And he said, Peaceably. 2:14 He said moreover, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And she said, Say on. 2:15 And he said, Thou knowest that the kingdom was mine, and that all Israel set their faces on me, that I should reign: howbeit the kingdom is turned about, and is become my brother's: for it was his from the LORD. 2:16 And now I ask one petition of thee, deny me not. And she said unto him, Say on. 2:17 And he said, Speak, I pray thee, unto Solomon the king, (for he will not say thee nay,) that he give me Abishag the Shunammite to wife. 2:18 And Bathsheba said, Well; I will speak for thee unto the king. 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And *the king rose up to meet her*, and *bowed himself unto her*, and *sat down on his throne*, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and *she sat on his right hand*. 2:20 Then she said, I desire one small petition of thee; I pray thee, say me not nay. And the king said unto her, Ask on, my mother: for I will not say thee nay. 2:21 And she said, Let Abishag the Shunammite be given to Adonijah thy brother to wife. 2:22 And king Solomon answered and said unto his mother, And why dost thou ask Abishag the Shunammite for Adonijah? ask for him the kingdom also; for he is mine elder brother; even for him, and for Abiathar the priest, and for Joab the son of Zeruiah. 2:23 Then king Solomon sware by the LORD, saying, God do so to me, and more also, if Adonijah have not spoken this word against his own life. 2:24 Now therefore, as the LORD liveth, which hath established me, and set me on the throne of David my father, and who hath made me an house, as he promised, *Adonijah shall be put to death this day* And king Solomon sent by the hand of Benaiah the son of Jehoiada; and he fell upon him that *he(Adonijah) died*". Great Grace!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 1:40pm On Sep 07
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 5:17pm On Sep 07
OTHER REALMS:
There are realms outside of earth, heaven and hell were human souls can exist after death.
Sheol (Job 26:6)
Hades (Luke 16:23)
Sea (Revelation 20:13)
Hades and death (Revelation 20:14)
Paradise (Luke 23:43)
Bossom of Abraham (Luke 16:22)
Prison of the disobedient dead in Noah's days (! Peter 3:18-20)
They are all written in the Holy Bible.
Revelation 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne and Him who was seated upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them [for this heaven and earth are passing away]. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the Book of Life; and the dead were judged according to what they had done as written in the books [that is, everything done while on earth]. 13 And the *sea* gave up the dead who were in it, and *death* and *Hades* (the realm of the dead) surrendered the dead who were in them; and they were judged and sentenced, every one according to their deeds. 14 Then *death and Hades [the realm of the dead]* were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire [the eternal separation from God]. 15 And if [a]anyone’s name was not found [b]written in the Book of Life, he was hurled into the lake of fire."

Jesus went to this realm of the dead to preach the gospel to all who lived and died from Adam till his crucifixion *without hearing the gospel* thus 1 Peter 3:18-20 "For indeed Christ died for sins once for all, *the Just and Righteous for the unjust and unrighteous [the Innocent for the guilty] so that He might bring us to God*, having been put to death in the flesh, *but made alive in the Spirit; 19 in which He also went and preached to 'the spirits' now in prison*, 20 who once were *disobedient*, when the great patience of God was waiting in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons [Noah’s family], were brought safely through the water."

These people who did not hear the *gospel of salvation in Christ Jesus* and did not *use grace (grace which has been given to *all human being from creation/biological-birth* just like Adam and Eve had and used for communicating with God in Genesis 1&2 without disobedience to God before they stopped using it and listened to Satan in Genesis 3 then they disobeyed God)* will be in torment to receive *few strokes* because they *had grace from child-birth(this what Paul and John called conscience in Romans 2:15 & 1 John 3:20)* but did not have *the full grace(gospel of Jesus Christ)* which teaches them how to receive salvation, which is what our Master and Creator wants us to achieve on this earth and also the primary purpose of giving us *grace* however those who have *grace from biological birth* and *fullness of grace(heard about the gospel of Jesus Christ while living on this earth)* whether they are born into Christianity or any other religion will receive *uncountable strokes(eternal damnation)* if they insist on rejecting the gospel of Jesus Christ till their individual biological death
thus
"And that servant who *knew his master’s will(heard the gospel of Jesus Christ)*, and *yet did not get ready or act in accord with his will*, will be *beaten with many/uncountable lashes [of the whip](eternal damnation)*, 48 but *the one who did not know it and did things worthy of a beating*, will *receive only a few [lashes](torment of Hades)*. From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more"

In the torment of Hades the *rich-man* who failed to *use grace* which makes human being to choose only doing good things like feeding the hungry, caring for the sick e.t.c without hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ in your entire human existence was found in Luke 16:23-26 and from there he saw Lazarus whom he neglected in the bosom of Abraham.
Even now many people are still *dieying without hearing the sound/unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified* and they did *not use grace* hence at their biological death the same Jesus Christ who went to preach to the imprisoned spirits(1 Peter 3:18-20) also reaches out to them through His Life of the Gospel now at work inside those who are genuine Christians/Born-again/Believers/Disciples of Jesus Christ whether we know their names or not, whether they are our family members or not, whether they were buried officially or not because Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever hence he gives every human being equal-chance(grace and fullness of grace) in order to satisfy His Divine Justice. This is the *work* of Christ Jesus inside us now who is God and Spirit, making things happen in the heaven, on earth and under the earth at the same time without anybody's approval. These dead person will also make their choice to accept or reject the gospel as they hear it from the Lord's mouth just like the living.

Then those who *used grace* while they lived on earth *without hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ* are called *the just/righteous* according to 1 Peter 3:18-20 from the beginning of creation till the second coming of Jesus Christ. All of them still needs to hear the gospel and believe it before they will receive eternal-life/heaven because Jesus Christ is the *first fruit from the dead* (1 Cor.15:18-20) and the *only way to the Father*(John 14:6) hence we saw Elijah who was taken up by the chariots of fire into heaven(2 kings 2:11) and Moses who was buried by God on mount Nebo(Deut.34:1-8 ) encouraging Jesus Christ at the transfiguration to pay the *ultimate price of His Life as a ransom for all human being("He made peace between God and human-nature by the blood of His cross" Col.1:20) that will open the door for them to enter *the main Heaven* where the Father dwells because until that time *all of them were still in waiting* for Jesus Christ alone came from Heaven because He is God where His Divine-nature as Father dwells and He alone is the *door of the sheep/the only way to the Father* (John 10:7, John 14:6, Hebrews 10:19-20) hence immediately he died on the cross and rose from the dead, these just and righteous men arose from there graves, went into the Holy city and appeared unto many people (Matt.27:52-53).

These are the category of people that can be forgiven their sin and receive eternal-life if they accept the gospel of Jesus Christ from the realm of the dead as Jesus declared in Matthew 12:31-32 as sin not against the Holy Spirit which can be forgiven in the world to come(in the realm/land of the dead and at the white throne judgment for those who rejected the gospel and those who did not hear the gospel according to Revelation 20:11-15). It does not have anything to do with those who heard the gospel and were still committing *small-sin and died committing small-sin* because those who have heard the gospel and believed the gospel cannot manifest sin in the secret of their thoughts/imagination, privacy of their lifestyle and their public engagements since *their flesh is dead and Jesus Christ is the person living through their mortal-bodies*. There is nothing like small sin or big sin because any type/style/kind is produced by *the same person (flesh not our skin rather our human-will that can choose good or evil)*. This flesh is not tamed/controlled/discipled rather *crucified/put to death only by Jesus Christ* together with His flesh crucified *once and forever* on Calvary then in-exchange/replacement of our dead/crucified flesh, Jesus Christ pours Himself (God and Man) into our mortal-body then we experience all these *instantly* at the point of sincere decision to be born-again by the Spirit of Jesus Christ Crucified thus the same body that was controlled by the flesh, enticed and aroused by sin will now walk through the same temptations, trials and tribulations without committing sin or denying God because it is Christ Jesus that now lives through His grace and faith in that same mortal-body consistently without sin and submission to trials, testing and temptations from one degree of glory to a higher degree of glory; this is *the born-again-reality* for any human being who hears the gospel and is *willingly sincere to receive the New Life of Christ Jesus Crucified*.

1 John 5:16-17 was not talking about small sin and big sin rather any type/style/kind of sin that be committed by any human being while still alive on this earth thus "if any man *see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death (any sin which is not continued until biological death), he shall ask(talk to him/her about it by presenting the gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified which is the only remedy for sin/flesh) and he shall give him life(eternal-life which is produced by *the gospel of Jesus Christ alone* inside any person who genuinely believes) for them that sin *not unto death*. There is *a sin unto death*: I do not say that *he(the same person who can offer the gospel remedy to the person who commits a sin not unto death is not advised/encouraged to pray for the person who commits a sin until his/her biological death)* shall pray for it, all *unrighteousness is sin*: and there is a sin not unto death" (1 John 5:16-17 KJV), according to some doctrines were this scriptural passage was *wrongly translated*, it states that there is small-sin and big-sin however these big sins can be forgiven if the person sincerely repents from them however this scriptural passage advised that the same person who could help a brother found committing sin not unto death *should not pray* for the person found committing a sin *unto death* and to confirm this verse-18 declared "we know that whosoever is born of God *sinneth not*; but he that is *begotten(born) of God keepeth himself* and that wicked one toucheth him not" hence let us learn the truth that there is nothing like small sin or big sin for a Christian/Born-again/Believer/Genuine disciple of Jesus Christ.

1 Cor.3:11-15 is not making reference to those who after believing the gospel of Jesus Christ, committed small-sin or after being forgiven by Jesus Christ will still do something to *satisfy God for the effects of sin* already washed and forgiven by the *only atoning-blood* of Christ Jesus Crucified rather from verse-1 we can see Paul addressing a wrong-impression among those who are *supposed to be genuine Christians/Born-again/Believers/Disciples of Jesus Christ* arguing about who belongs to Apollos or Paul were each of them is being regarded as a superior teacher of the gospel, Paul told them that neither himself nor Apollos is *the foundation of Christianity rather Christ Jesus Crucified* but *those who believed the gospel through either of them is their 'works in Christ Jesus' even as they 'co-labour' with God in his household (the body of Christ/Believers)*, Paul also confirms that whether he planted the gospel in their lives and Apollos watered/nurtured them through discipleship what matters is that God(Christ Jesus) is the *only being* that makes their works(believers) to grow, he went further to state that each Disciples/Gospel-teacher's works(those who believed through their teachings) will be tasted through fire(temptations, trials, tribulations, testing) and if they are *genuine disciples/Christians/born-again/believers* they will not fall into any sin or reject/deny Jesus Christ as Lord till eternity hence their teacher will *receive a reward for allowing the life of Christ Jesus Crucified inside him/her to be transferred unto other human being* while those who did not receive the gospel and were pretending to belong to the brethren will pass through the same fire(trials, temptations, testing,tribulations) but will *not persevere* because of *their insincerity* however *their teacher will be saved because he was sincere in allowing the genuine gospel life of Jesus Christ to be transferred unto those they encountered but as someone who passed through fire(the pains and agony of a teacher/disciple who taught those brethren surrounding him/her consistently believing they have sincerely received the gospel just like Judas among the 12-disciples as well as the confusions and set-backs such a person will be igniting amongst those who want to be sincere in receiving the gospel just like Hymenaus and Alexander in 1 Timothy 1:20).

we learnt the wrong translations and interpretation of this scripture before and were zealously teaching the wrong things but now the Holy Spirit has shown us mercy by revealing his sound teaching let us not fail to use this grace and adjust adequately now.

Hades and death bring-out all the human being waiting inside it, present them for judgment before the throne then Hades and death will be cast into the lake of fire(the second death) hence it is a *temporal-state* where those human souls which did not hear the gospel could stay, hear the gospel from Jesus Christ like he did for those persons in 1 Peter 3:18-20 or wait till the white throne judgment according to Revelation 20:11-15.

Sin against the Holy Spirit is *hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ while living on this earth and rejecting it till biological death* because *the gospel is the 'only route/means' God decided to use to give full salvation to every human being*(Romans 1:16, John 14:6) hence if you reject the gospel of grace that *can save you while living on earth till your biological death*, you have condemned yourself to eternal death and no prayer not even Jesus Christ can save you
Thus
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that *whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life*.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that *believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already*, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
(John 3:16-18 kjv)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 7:08am On Sep 08
Matthew 19:12... Marriage is 'not' meant for *every human being*
John 3:16... Eternal-life/Heaven in Christ Jesus is meant for every human being *who accepts/believes in the unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ*
I choose *Eternal-life by grace through faith in Christ Jesus Crucified* over marriage, money, jobs, wealth, business, worlds-prosperity, friendship, families, relations, religious-allegiances, and even over my life in Jesus Name. Amen.
God My Father I mean what I am saying and I am saying what I mean, do with me whatever you will by the unlimited manifestations of your Holy Spirit in Jesus Name. Amen.

Thank You Jesus Christ; My Lord(the owner of my Spirit, Soul and Body 100%)!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 7:53am On Sep 08
Those born of the Spirit of Jesus Christ Crucified are the only ones who can produce the fruits of the Holy Spirit (Gal.5:22-23) while those born of the flesh will produce the fruits of the flesh (Gal.5:19-21) as Jesus Christ declared in John 3:6.
So many people who call themselves pastors, priests, prophets, evangelist, religious-professed, preachers, social-media-writers/critics(including myself) e.t.c may have *never known Jesus Christ Crucified or believed in him* hence on the last day Christ Jesus will say to them that performed miracles/magic, explained scriptures with brilliant-intelligence, served on the altars, received/experienced miracles, evangelized e.t.c "go away from me, *you were working for your own flesh(iniquities)*, I *never knew you*" (Matthew 7:21-ff)

We pray for all of us who are *sincerely ignorant of the unadulterated gospel of Jesus Christ whether as ordained ministers or ordinary members of the local church* that the grace of the Holy Spirit will reveal the light of the gospel unto the eyes of our minds so that we will come back to our senses like the prodigal son in Luke 15:17 in Jesus Name. Amen.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by NCBMEDIA: 8:09pm On Sep 08
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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 3:01pm On Sep 09
John 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, *Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit*. 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again."

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