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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by BetaThings: 9:10pm On Nov 29, 2012
Baby mama:

My aim is not to rattle you this much
If you say Isl.am forbids Ana.l so be it but I put it to you that the Koran verse I quoted is used by some Muslims to justify it.
personally I think it is insane to indulge in such,it is unnatural IMHO but I would not condemn a husband and wife what they choose to do in their bedroom
If they like let them whip themselves or tie up themselves or swing from the chandeliers
If they are both OK with it,that is their cup of tea,not my style nevertheless.

Fact is that you cannot simply nullify a hadith because there is a verse of the Qur'an
The issue of stoning of adulterers prove that - there is no verse in the Qur'an for it
Stoning is legislated in the hadith
So where is the rattling when all you need is ask for explanation

The Qur'an verse was revealed in relation to the assertion by the Jews say that if a man has intercourse with his wife in her va.gi.na from behind, the child will have a squint. This is what you will find in the books of tafseer
BTW is it not strange that Christians say that I need to be in the spirit to understand the Bible, yet they just grab the Qur'an and start quoting. I am not saying you need to be in the spirit, but people who spend years studying the Qur'an must clearly be learning something

As for what people do, they can hang, go to Mars, but no a.nal and nothing during mensuration

I have no issue with anyone disagreeing with me, just bring evidence which is supported by vast majority of scholars. I say this because the people who are the subject of this thread said that homo. has not always been outlawed. So any extremist group will always find some crank scholar in the dark recesses of this world to endorse their misguidance

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by missbola1(f): 9:12pm On Nov 29, 2012
ANOTHER THING, WHAT DOES PAUL SAY ABOUT WOMEN HAIR? TO COVER THEM OR SHAVE THEM? WHAT DO WE SEE IN MOST CHURHES TODAY?
ARE WOMEN ALLOW TO TALK IN THE HOUSE OF GOD? IT IS HALAL?
CAN WE HAVE WOMEN PASTORS/PRIEST? IS IT HALAL?
DIDN'T BIBLE SAY THEY SHOULD KILL GAY?
WOMEN HUGGING MEN, IS IT HALAL?
DID U KNOW THAT SOMEONE FOUGHT WITH GOD? IS IT HALAL?
EATING PORK, IS IT HALAL?
WOMEN WEARING SKIRT/SHOWING CLEEVAGE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, IS IT HALAL
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by bola4dprec(m): 9:14pm On Nov 29, 2012
seyibrown:

Thanks for the above, Bola. Could you please kindly give the Quran/Hadith Chapter where I can go and find the above please (and for the education of others as well) ... copy and paste without proper referencing is not enough proof these days. Thanks again.
this is not issue of copy and paste most of my comments were not merely copy and paste it was based or hard work and research Every Muslim man's and every Muslim woman's
prayer should be: My Lord! Enrich me with knowledge.. Quran, 20:114. 14 years of training @ Darul Hikmat its not a child play N:B
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 9:15pm On Nov 29, 2012
tintingz: anglican and catholics pratice homosexual marriage. . .can you start naming the sect in Islam that
Do homo...?

Start with the royal Saudi family,then go down to the mosques mentioned on this thread ,then to Afghanistan,pakistan and northern Nigeria and points in between and answer your own question
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by tintingz(m): 9:19pm On Nov 29, 2012
Baby mama:

I did not say mocking.I said criticism,different words so quote me correctly and stop your lies,your stock in trade.Most vocal Muslims in Nigeria hadn't even the balls to criticize BOKO haram and terrorism because they are all your brothers
They have called them brothers on the pages of the paper
.Don't play the little Muslim game of shifting goal posts with me,I recognize it from a mile away.
terrorism is a global challenge yes but without Islam it would be nearly non existent,all you need to do is log onto the Internet ,turn on your TV or open a newspaper.

That is a fact
But if it makes you feel better to point fingers elsewhere but within,knock yourself out

dummest post ever!

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by BetaThings: 9:20pm On Nov 29, 2012
Saint paris: Muslims and their twisted sense of morality, it alarming. When Muslims say Islam teaches piety, it does not mean at all what you think piety means. Piety in Islam means do what is halal (permitted) and avoid what is haram (forbidden). These have nothing to do with right and wrong. For example, homosexuality is haram but p.edophilia is halal. M.asturbation is haram but killing the non-Muslims is halal. wine is haram but stoning is halal. For a woman, exposing her hair in public is haram but for her husband beating her is halal. The concept of Islamic piety defies human logic. A pious Muslim is not necessarily a good personby our definition. A pious Muslim is one who follows Muhammad, he could be a terrorist, a child molester, a wife beater or a liar. As long as he lies to non-believers, he is pious. As long as he says his obligatory prayers, fasts, his beard and his dress are the right size, he enters into toilet with the correct foot and follows all the rituals meticulously, he is pious.
Let not words fool you.

You are simply a polemicist. You can compile all the ills of this world and ascribe them to Islam
We will stand firm because we know the truth
Only those who are evil doers seek to win arguments by falsehood and hate-mongering

To your audience, I wonder how you feel you can fool them

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by bola4dprec(m): 9:21pm On Nov 29, 2012
Baby mama: [size=18pt]@ betathings or any other Muslim can you show us the passages of the Koran that condemn homosexuality.I have heard that Islam forbids it and I believe it but could you show us where that is written in the pages of the Koran.That will be the proof that that Islam indeed forbids it [/size]
The Qur'an and Homosexuality:
There are five references in the Qur'an
which have been cited as referring to
gay and lesbian behavior. Some
obviously deal with effeminate men and
"masculine women." The two main
references to homosexual behavior are:
"We also sent Lut : He said to his
people : "Do ye commit lewdness such
as no people in creation (ever)
committed before you? For ye practice
your lusts on men in preference to
women: ye are indeed a people
transgressing beyond bounds." Qur'an
7:80-81
"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto
the males, and leave the wives your Lord
created for you? Nay, but ye are forward
folk." Qur'an 26:165

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by tintingz(m): 9:22pm On Nov 29, 2012
Baby mama:

Start with the royal Saudi family,then go down to the mosques mentioned on this thread ,then to Afghanistan,pakistan and northern Nigeria and points in between and answer your own question
i didnt see any sect here only countries. . .c'mon gimme sect in Islam that do homo according to sharia law. . .

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 9:25pm On Nov 29, 2012
Turkey is about 95% Mulsim
This was the gay parade in that country last year
This tells you that gays exist in every Muslim country in large numbers
Turkey cannot clamp down on them because they want to belong to EU so the gays are out with bells ringing
The only reason they are closeted is fear of death,doesn't mean people are not doing it




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se8QNKnNl1k&sns=em
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by tintingz(m): 9:28pm On Nov 29, 2012
Suchie: Wats d fu...ck about opening a gay mosque in paris..for me i dnt see anything wrong with that,Afterall there have been Gay muslims before we were even born and they will still be here if we live this earth.Thats why i love America..there is freedom to do whatever you wanna do evn if you are Gay or lesbian...if yu dnt like it get the fu....ck outta this earth and allow people to live in Peace. shocked
even if a woman ra.pe you its freedom. . .good!
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 9:33pm On Nov 29, 2012
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by tintingz(m): 9:34pm On Nov 29, 2012
vedaxcool:

remember gaytheist hyms more with atheists grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

hahahahahaha! Logicboy is now a donkeyst from being a monkeyst grin

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by seunajia: 9:34pm On Nov 29, 2012
It is incumbent on those making claims to lend evidentiary support to such claims.

That aside, they are happy when the ills known with their religion seem to be spreading. It is unsettling that they don't consider such ills as evil in the first place. What does the Bible say about homosexuality? undecided

I said something about pseudo-intelligence, there you go, when a creation believes it's smarter than it's creator. They can keep evolving. Originality joor!

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by tintingz(m): 9:55pm On Nov 29, 2012
Baby mama: Mis Bola,no need doing dogon turenchi
The proof of Aisha,s age are in the hadiths,some from her own mouth
Give me the proof of Mary,s age from the Bible
Mary was 12yrs when she married to old Joseph. . .ask any catholic church
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Saintparis1: 9:57pm On Nov 29, 2012
Baby mama:

So true

And when he dies they all shout subnallalahi ,that wipes off all his evil deeds
Lol Insha Allah grin
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Saintparis1: 10:08pm On Nov 29, 2012
vedaxcool: Lol! "Saint" paris is in deep pains all because muslims thoroughly debunked this thread! Take heart eh! Try again next time! grin grin grin grin
Lol really? Fine, whatever makes you sleep at night, I've already bookmarked this thread in case i see a muslim accusing Christians of having gay bishops. Vedax look on the bright side of this, you don't have too be staring at that imam's àss leading prayer five times a day as a woman would take his place. Cool huh? Allah knows best cheesy
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 10:10pm On Nov 29, 2012
[size=18pt]For doubting Thomases about Gays in the Muslim world read on
Figures from Saudi Arabia,the seat of Islam[/size]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ8PSKSWeEw&sns=em



Video translated from clip posted on YouTube in December 2008. Clip originally aired on the Arabic-language satellite station 'al-Hurra', on the program 'Misawa'. Subtitled video is above, full transcript below (thanks to Nonie Darwish for finding the video):
Guest - More than 23% of children in Saudi society have been raped.

Host – So about a quarter of Saudi children have been--

Guest - About a quarter of Saudi children have been raped. Sixty-two percent of those people—

Host – Those children.

Guest - No, I’m sorry, the study was directed at university students. Twenty-three percent had been raped during their childhood. For 62% of those, the rape was never reported. This was because it was one of the victim’s relatives. In the study, it was mentioned that more than 16% of the rapists were relatives, specifically 5% were siblings, 2% were teachers, and 1% were parents. In another study, which was conducted by Dr. In’am (al-Rabu’i), who is the president of children’s studies at the Armed Forces Hospital in Jeddah, she mentioned, or warned, that in the coming years we will suffer as a society from extremely widespread cases of homosexuality. The reason for this is the increase in the cases of sexual assault of children (brought) to the hospital, as well as the societal violence inflicted on children. She also mentioned that the hospital had on average three sexual assault cases per week.

Host – How large of an area did the study cover?

Guest - I don’t know, this is just what she mentioned on behalf of the Saudi nation. It was published on behalf of the nation, and can be considered very reliable. In addition to that, there is a study from the Office of Societal Supervision, which is also very serious. [size=18pt]This study reported that 46% of students in the city of Riyadh suffer from homosexuality. Twenty-five percent of students in Jeddah suffer from homosexuality[/size]. We must be aware of this in order to combat these numbers quickly. The society has become fragmented. When we have a percentage of students—children or teenagers—who are gay, this is a catastrophe, a true catastrophe. I mean, we don’t have a strong society. We should really look at this more seriously.

Host – This is a new thing in Saudi Arabia for newspapers to write articles on this subject. The studies which you mentioned, are they saying this is something new?

Guest - No, it’s not new.


Can you imagine?
A quarter if Children r.aped,one hospital averaging 3 cases a week
25% of students in Jeddah are gay
46% in Riyadh are gay
Even San Francisco does not have that many gays
yet Muslims keep pointing to America as the seat of sin,hypocrites
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by seunajia: 10:13pm On Nov 29, 2012
Horrible logic! That Turkey or Iran has a predominantly muslim population implies they constitute a perfect embodiment of Muslims? Pseudo--gringringrin

It is folks like this that think white folks don't shyte or that arabs don't sin. gringringrin

Let's help you. If the Arabs or Jews were entirely good people, without sin as your posts allude, why send prophets to them?

Homosexuality exists everywhere, it's proliferation and justification is what we have issues with. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Saintparis1: 10:44pm On Nov 29, 2012
miss_bola:

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS?
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF PEDOPHILA AND WHO TOLD U IT IS HALAL? HENCE, HOW OLD WAS MARY WHEN SHE GOT MARRIED TO JOSEPH? google it and let us know. is she was under 16yrs then it would be consider that Joseph was a pedophilla in UK.


Geez, why are you shouting? Must you write in big caps? Here's is your factsj
pedóphilia Qur’an 65:4 says you can marry, have séx and divorce underage girls who have not menstruated.
Wife beating Quran4:34 say that they must be
obedient to their husbands or be admonished (verbally abused), banished from the bed (psychologically abused) and beaten (physically abused)
Stoning of women No need to as betathings have pointed that out. Then again is polygamy not legal form of adultery? Funny how we've those laws but in the whole Quran there's no verse prohibiting or telling us the punishment of those that rapé women. Is rapé of women not an important issue for Allah to address?
I think you know the answers to the rest.


[quote]where does it mention in the Quran to kill non-muslims? I think it's refering In The WAR (QURAN; REPENTANCE 9 VERSES 1-6). AND IT FURTHER MENTION THAT IF THE NON MULSIM REPENT THEN THEY SHOULD NOT KILL HIM AND ESCORT HIM TO THE SECUIRY. (And I know people like you will never quote that part.) SO HOW COME NON-MUSLIMS ARE STILL ALIVE IN THESE MUSLIMS COUNTRIES?

Repent from what? I believe you've access to internet, use it and know the fates of non muslims in muslim countries even women. Then compare it with Muslims living in non muslim countries. Your hypocrisy is annoying.

WHERE IS YOUR FACT THAT HUSBAND BEATING THEIR WIVES ARE HALAL?

ANOTHER THING, WHAT DOES PAUL SAY ABOUT WOMEN HAIR? TO COVER THEM OR SHAVE THEM? WHAT DO WE SEE IN MOST CHURHES TODAY?
ARE WOMEN ALLOW TO TALK IN THE HOUSE OF GOD? IT IS HALAL?
CAN WE HAVE WOMEN PASTORS/PRIEST? IS IT HALAL?
Go and read the bible, why would a woman be asked to cover her hair when Prophesing if they are not allowed to talk i church? The same chapter says woman's hair is given unto her as a covering.

DIDN'T BIBLE SAY THEY SHOULD KILL GAY?
WOMEN HUGGING MEN, IS IT HALAL?
DID U KNOW THAT SOMEONE FOUGHT WITH GOD? IS IT HALAL?
EATING PORK, IS IT HALAL?
No gays won't be killed, is any man tryna hug you? cheesy no it wasn't God, that was an Angel, even muhammad fought with something Khadija convinced him was an Angel when he tried to squeeze the life out of him to read. Why evenn force an illiterate man to read? It's weird. Jesus says what makes a man impure before God is what is in his heart.
WOMEN WEARING SKIRT/SHOWING CLEEVAGE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, IS IT HALAL?

DID U KNOW THAT IN THE BIBLE IT IS SAID THAT THEY SHOULD CUT A WOMAN HAND IF HER HAND TOUCHES A MAN PRIVATE PART IF SHE'S TRYING TO STOP 2 MEN FIGHTING?
You ask a lot of silly questions, i believe baby mama have answered that.

Let me know the answers to those quest and I will let u know the chapter and verses of the cutting hand.

TILL I HEAR FROM YOU. THANKS

Yea whatever, you don't wanna start with me
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Saintparis1: 12:03am On Nov 30, 2012
BetaThings:

You are simply a polemicist. You can compile all the ills of this world and ascribe them to Islam
We will stand firm because we know the truth
Only those who are evil doers seek to win arguments by falsehood and hate-mongering

To your audience, I wonder how you feel you can fool them
Why are you fooling yourself? All the things i said there is true. You guys really have twisted sense of morality which is mostly targeted at women. Yea if you must know, overtime I've learnt not to judge Islam and the Quran based on the behavior of Muslims. If i must i first make reference to the Quran then the hadith and then show the effect of these on Muslims.
In the hadiths Muhammad really showed some gay-ish traits. cheesy
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by faroukbabs: 12:10am On Nov 30, 2012
Baby mama: Turkey is about 95% Mulsim
This was the gay parade in that country last year
This tells you that gays exist in every Muslim country in large numbers
Turkey cannot clamp down on them because they want to belong to EU so the gays are out with bells ringing
The only reason they are closeted is fear of death,doesn't mean people are not doing it




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se8QNKnNl1k&sns=em
u were asked to name one islamic sect that has legalised gay practice , u are busy naming countries. smh

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 1:15am On Nov 30, 2012
Alhamdulillah i'm a muslim.
Anyone that reads this thread with an open heart will learn from the Muslims that commented here with PROOFS.
The other side is so weak and they are not defending the challenges thrown to them about the Bible. They are just rigmarolling and repeating their 'daddy' -say words.

Simple 'How old was Mary?' dem no fit answer, they all stylishly dodged it. SMH

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 1:19am On Nov 30, 2012
faroukbabs:
u were asked to name one islamic sect that has legalised gay practice , u are busy naming countries. smh

She wants to go and ask her 'Daddy-in-the-Lord' grin grin

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 3:15am On Nov 30, 2012
faroukbabs:
u were asked to name one islamic sect that has legalised gay practice , u are busy naming countries. smh

So you now agree Islam has sects
Hehehehehehe
The topic is gay mosques,write all 21 known ones and all the gay muslim groups and ask them what sect they are,not my problem

Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by seunajia: 7:00am On Nov 30, 2012
Queer muslims? grin immediately you add or remove anything from Islam you don enter gutter be that! wink The tenets of Islam forbids such acts. So immediately you engage in it without remorse/repentance, sorry!

If it's not Panadol...

BTW, Queer also means spoil, ruin, bad, counterfeit grin
Thus, Queer muslim = spoilt muslim, ruined muslim, bad muslim, counterfeit muslim. PIGS! tongue

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by missbola1(f): 8:04pm On Nov 30, 2012
Rukemi291: Alhamdulillah i'm a muslim.
Anyone that reads this thread with an open heart will learn from the Muslims that commented here with PROOFS.
The other side is so weak and they are not defending the challenges thrown to them about the Bible. They are just rigmarolling and repeating their 'daddy' -say words.

Simple 'How old was Mary?' dem no fit answer, they all stylishly dodged it. SMH

Salam alaikum!

I have answered them with proof BUT they never answered my questionS, MARY was about 12 years when she got married to Joseph which means it would have been illegal in the UK if such thing takes place. Did they know that Mary had other children apart from JESUS? Their PASTORS NEVER TOLD THEM THAT.

They ignore the questions that they don't know in the Bible BUT he can quotes from Quran. They do not want to do finding about the teaching of the Bible because their pastors have put a spell on them. He ignore questions about gay in the bible, men hugging women, confessing sins to their priest, eating pork, man to have more than 1 wives, priest sleeping with young boys, GLORY HOUSE PASTOR IN UK, LONDON THAT WAS CHARGED & SENTECED WITH SLEEPING WITH UNDERAGE BOYS IN HIS CHURCH AND THEN THE POLICE SECREATLY FOLLOWED HIM TO SPAIN, SOME PEOPLE STILL ATTEND THE CHURCH UNTIL HE RAPE ALL THEIR MALE CHILDREN. why would paul in the Bible say to women to SHAVE THEIR HAIR? they probably forgot to ask their pastors/priest. Did Jesus said that the priest shoud not get married? why the sisters in the church cover their hair like we muslims do?

I do not need to interact with these people (daddy said/pastor said), the debate is clear. Muslims will always argue with Quran/Proof. Their Paul in the bible never knew/saw Jesus but he's telling them what they should do. Everyone I know has a surname, what are JAMES, LUKE, MATTHEW surnames?

THEY REFUSE TO TELL ME WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS HIMSELF SAY 'I AM GOD AND YOU WSHOULD WORSHIP ME AND YOU SHOULD PRAY 'IN JESUS NAME' AND I HAVE DIED FOR YOUR SIN)

We muslims always respect all the prophets that GOD sent, any time we say JESUS we say 'MAY THE PEACE AND BLESSING OF GOD BE WITH HIM'.
Unlike the christians saying bad things about Prophet Muhhamed and drawing picture of JESUS NAKED.
WE WILL NOT KNOW THE WORTH OF OUR PROPHET MOHHAMED(PBUH) UNTILL THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT WHEN HE WILL INTERCEED FOR THE MUSLIMS.

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Saintparis1: 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2012
^^ Your rants are unnecessary, do you get high sniffing your fellow muslims àss fives times a day?
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by vedaxcool(m): 9:30pm On Nov 30, 2012
^
Why are you hurting so bad nah? imm be like say the truth is making you go bunkers grin grin grin

@ team Islam, well done, Truth has arrived and falsehood has vanished! May Allah strengthen you hold on the Truth: Islam.

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 10:03pm On Nov 30, 2012
@Miss_bola. walleikum salam waramatullah. You have done so well and i enjoyed and learnt from your posts. May Allah continue to enrich you with knowledge
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by vedaxcool(m): 10:17pm On Nov 30, 2012
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ages_of_consent_in_Europe


the consensual age at england in one point
was as low as 10 years, now it is 16,
why the changing standards? In any
case spain has an age of consent of 13
for both hetero and homo relations, in
the link provided above you will see
how most changed their age from one
point to another, so the real question
remains what criteria do they use to determine the acceptable age for marriage?

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Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Saintparis1: 10:23pm On Nov 30, 2012
Yawns, signing out on this thread. Good that she took my advice, really don't wanna start with me.tongue tongue au revoir
Re: First Gay Mosque To Open In Paris by Nobody: 10:26pm On Nov 30, 2012
It is funny the way they console themselves with praises after a beat down grin grin grin grin

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