Well, do Nigerian politicians promote war as a way to achieve peace? Because that's what American do, and it's the dumbest thing on earth!

miss-sweety86:
Well, do Nigerian politicians promote war as a way to achieve peace? Because that's what American do, and it's the dumbest thing on earth!

Many countries in the past have gone to war for so many reasons,not only America, the current American Govt are taking a different route in engaging in dialogue than jumping for war.

If America is that bad why did you choose to study there rather than other 'peaceful' countries?

Before you make any attempt to compare American politicians and Nigerian ones, take your time and visit Nigeria or read about the activities of Nigerian politicians.

justwise:

Many countries in the past have gone to war for so many reasons,not only America, the current American Govt are taking a different route in engaging in dialogue than jumping for war.

If America is that bad why did you choose to study there rather than other 'peaceful' countries?

Before you make any attempt to compare American politicians and Nigerian ones, take your time and visit Nigeria or read about the activities of Nigerian politicians.

Abi oooo.

justwise:

Many countries in the past have gone to war for so many reasons,not only America, the current American Govt are taking a different route in engaging in dialogue than jumping for war.

If America is that bad why did you choose to study there rather than other 'peaceful' countries?

Before you make any attempt to compare American politicians and Nigerian ones, take your time and visit Nigeria or read about the activities of Nigerian politicians.

Oh I just went there for an exchange program. I thought it could be interested to see how the American society really is. Nothing impressive after all! And at the time I wasn't really aware of all the atrocities committed by Americans.

Surely America is not the only country starting war, but I think the wars they fought were the most destructive. The money they spent on the war in Irak could have saved millions of lives, instead of destroying the country. I'm sorry, but too me American politicians are evil so I don't think the Nigerian could be worst (think about 9/11, attacks on Iraq, relation with Al-Quaeda, etc). There are so many things you're probably not aware. I'm not a specialist in Nigerian politicians, but I'm pretty sure they are not that bad as the American, or at least do less harm.

miss-sweety86:


Oh I just went there for an exchange program. I thought it could be interested to see how the American society really is. Nothing impressive after all! And at the time I wasn't really aware of all the atrocities committed by Americans.

Surely America is not the only country starting war, but I think the wars they fought were the most destructive. The money they spent on the war in Irak could have saved millions of lives, instead of destroying the country. I'm sorry, but too me American politicians are evil so I don't think the Nigerian could be worst (think about 9/11, attacks on Iraq, relation with Al-Quaeda, etc). There are so many things you're probably not aware. I'm not a specialist in Nigerian politicians, but I'm pretty sure they are not that bad as the American, or at least do less harm.

You muddling too many things together here, what do you know about 9/11 and the relationship with Al-Quaeda?

You don't know much about Nigerian politicians and at the same time you are pretty sure that they are not as bad as America politicians?

Which country are you from if you don't mind me asking?

Do you really think Al-Quaeda commited the 9/11 attacks? COnsidering the level of security in those building, and the fact that Ben Laden denied being responsible of the attack, and forensic evidence, I would say it was something orchestring by the Americans to start their "war on terror"

Don't you know that it was the American who "created" Al Quaeda to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan? And the the US collaborate with Ben Laden and Saddam Hussein when it served their own interests?

Figthing a war to bring peace when in fact the American left Iraq completely destroyed, I don't think Nigerian politicians have done anything as harmful as that.

And I'm from Switzerland, but I don't think it really matters....

miss-sweety86:
Do you really think Al-Quaeda commited the 9/11 attacks? COnsidering the level of security in those building, and the fact that Ben Laden denied being responsible of the attack, and forensic evidence, I would say it was something orchestring by the Americans to start their "war on terror"

Don't you know that it was the American who "created" Al Quaeda to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan? And the the US collaborate with Ben Laden and Saddam Hussein when it served their own interests?

Figthing a war to bring peace when in fact the American left Iraq completely destroyed, I don't think Nigerian politicians have done anything as harmful as that.

And I'm from Switzerland, but I don't think it really matters....

I asked those questions for a reason and you just confirmed it, the silly conspiracy theories about America planning 9/11 is just as silly as suggesting that the world will be a better place without America.

I can understand your support for Nigerian politician because your country helped our present and pass politicians hide billions of $$$ stolen from Nigeria, we practical enrich your own economy while ordinary Nigerians are dying of hunger.

First of all the Swiss economy wasn't enriched with Nigerian money. Nigerian money was placed into bank accounts in Switzerland (do I need to explain you the functionning of the banking system and its purposes?). And the money was returned to Nigeria. And the subject of this topic is neither Nigeria nor Switzerland, but America, and I just stated my opinion on that country, hence my disagreement with many people who worship American. . And I don't support Nigerian politicians in any way, the topic of this post is America, and I just said that I don't think Nigerian politicians could be as bad as American.

And what you call the "silly conspiracy theory" isn't something I'm the only one to think it was possible. Maybe you should get more information rather than believing everything you see on CNN!!!

miss-sweety86:
Do you really think Al-Quaeda commited the 9/11 attacks? COnsidering the level of security in those building, and the fact that Ben Laden denied being responsible of the attack, and forensic evidence, I would say it was something orchestring by the Americans to start their "war on terror"

Don't you know that it was the American who "created" Al Quaeda to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan? And the the US collaborate with Ben Laden and Saddam Hussein when it served their own interests?

Figthing a war to bring peace when in fact the American left Iraq completely destroyed, I don't think Nigerian politicians have done anything as harmful as that.

And I'm from Switzerland, but I don't think it really matters....

are u saying bin laden denied 911 attack? I guess you are used to watching CONSPRACY THEORY in NATGEO in US.

miss-sweety86:
First of all the Swiss economy wasn't enriched with Nigerian money. Nigerian money was placed into bank accounts in Switzerland (do I need to explain you the functionning of the banking system and its purposes?). And the money was returned to Nigeria. And the subject of this topic is neither Nigeria nor Switzerland, but America, and I just stated my opinion on that country, hence my disagreement with many people who worship American. . And I don't support Nigerian politicians in any way, the topic of this post is America, and I just said that I don't think Nigerian politicians could be as bad as American.

And what you call the "silly conspiracy theory" isn't something I'm the only one to think it was possible. Maybe you should get more information rather than believing everything you see on CNN!!!

Many of our money are in your country and other rich peoples money are used to develop switzerland. Please,try to visit the two countries(naija and US) before you compare. Nice chatting with you

miss-sweety86:
First of all the Swiss economy wasn't enriched with Nigerian money. Nigerian money was placed into bank accounts in Switzerland (do I need to explain you the functionning of the banking system and its purposes?). And the money was returned to Nigeria. And the subject of this topic is neither Nigeria nor Switzerland, but America, and I just stated my opinion on that country, hence my disagreement with many people who worship American. . And I don't support Nigerian politicians in any way, the topic of this post is America, and I just said that I don't think Nigerian politicians could be as bad as American.

And what you call the "silly conspiracy theory" isn't something I'm the only one to think it was possible. Maybe you should get more information rather than believing everything you see on CNN!!!

Its a silly conspiracy theory and one without any verifiable evidence, its carried out by few individuals with mental issues.

If there is any atom of truth in that conspiracy other countries..e.g Russia, China and other countries would have taken a second look at it.

Yes this topic is about America politicians and that of Nigeria, but stealing money to bank in Swiss bank comes into it because you don't think that Nigerian politicians are are bad as stated.

It took more than 10yrs before your Govt returned the stolen money, after so many court cases, millions wasted fighting your Govt to hand over the money. That money was not lying idle in your bank, bank used it to invest in businesses that enriched your economy.

justwise: [/b]

Its a silly conspiracy theory and one without any verifiable evidence, its carried out by few individuals with mental issues.

If there is any atom of truth in that conspiracy other countries..e.g Russia, China and other countries would have taken a second look at it.

Yes this topic is about America politicians and that of Nigeria, but stealing money to bank in Swiss bank comes into it because you don't think that Nigerian politicians are are bad as stated.

It took more than 10yrs before your Govt returned the stolen money, after so many court cases, millions wasted fighting your Govt to hand over the money. That money was not lying idle in your bank, bank used it to invest in businesses that enriched your economy.

after ebough interest and re investment on the money.
WTC has been the target of terrorist since it was built in the 70s,it was attempted with bomb in the 80s but failed and the so called conspiracy theory never said anything about that.

temmytanny: are u saying bin laden denied 911 attack? I guess you are used to watching CONSPRACY THEORY in NATGEO in US.

yes, I read an interview with Ben Laden where he denied being behind the 9/11 attacks. I'm trying to send you the interview it's on brusselstribunal.org- And I don't watch " CONSPRACY THEORY in NATGEO in US", in fact I don't even know what it is.

justwise: [/b]

Its a silly conspiracy theory and one without any verifiable evidence, its carried out by few individuals with mental issues.

If there is any atom of truth in that conspiracy other countries..e.g Russia, China and other countries would have taken a second look at it.

Yes this topic is about America politicians and that of Nigeria, but stealing money to bank in Swiss bank comes into it because you don't think that Nigerian politicians are are bad as stated.

It took more than 10yrs before your Govt returned the stolen money, after so many court cases, millions wasted fighting your Govt to hand over the money. That money was not lying idle in your bank, bank used it to invest in businesses that enriched your economy.

The issue of money put into Swiss bank accounts isn't the topic of this thread. If you're too d-u-m-b to understand the functioning of the banking system I can't do anything! And neither the swiss government nor the swiss banks stole money from Nigeria! Don't mix everything!!! And the money was returned, but everything takes time when it comes to politics.

The issue here is America, and I believed what they did in Iraq was wrong, at the it makes their politicians the worse in the world. They attacked Irak without the consent of the Security Council and destroyed it.

temmytanny: Many of our money are in your country and other rich peoples money are used to develop switzerland. Please,try to visit the two countries(naija and US) before you compare. Nice chatting with you

First of all, Switzerland is not the subject of this thread. Second of all, if you don't understand the purpose and functioning of banking system, I can't do anything to help you! Third I didn't compare Nigeria and America but only stated that I doubt Nigerian politicians can be as bad as American, considering all the harm done by the American government. I didn't talk about Nigeria/US as countries, but of their politics. Fourth, I have been to the US and as I am working in an NGO dealing with Iraq I have a great deal of knowledge of American foreign politics. So, get yourself informed!

miss-sweety86:


The issue of money put into Swiss bank accounts isn't the topic of this thread. If you're too d-u-m-b to understand the functioning of the banking system I can't do anything! And neither the swiss government nor the swiss banks stole money from Nigeria! Don't mix everything!!! And the money was returned, but everything takes time when it comes to politics.

The issue here is America, and I believed what they did in Iraq was wrong, at the it makes their politicians the worse in the world. They attacked Irak without the consent of the Security Council and destroyed it.

Swiss Govt and her bank handled stolen money and as such are part of the game, if you know anything about banking then you should know that Swiss bank benefited massively from money stolen from Nigeria, if you don't know that then you don't jack.


Swiss has fought many wars in the past, Swiss men were used as mercenaries by other European countries, check your history and tell me how many wars Swiss has been involved in.

More than 6 wars fought by your Govt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Switzerland

justwise:

Swiss Govt and her bank handled stolen money and as such are part of the game, if you know anything about banking then you should know that Swiss bank benefited massively from money stolen from Nigeria, if you don't know that then you don't jack.


Swiss has fought many wars in the past, Swiss men were used as mercenaries by other European countries, check your history and tell me how many wars Swiss has been involved in.

More than 6 wars fought by your Govt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Switzerland

HAHAHAHA!!!! You use Wikipedia as a source of information and you think you know my country better than this because you've had a look at a wikipedia page about Switzerland Nigerians really amaze me today!!!!

Switzerland was involved in some wars, but this was a very long time ago, before the establishment of the Swiss confederation and later the federal state. If you were a bit informed (and more to say smart) you would know that Switzerland is a neutral country and that it hosts the United Nations Office and many international organizations and non governmental organizations. It was also a Swiss citizen (Henri Dunant) who started the ICRC (if you know what it is), so don't dare say that Switzerland is a country that creates war!!!!

And about the money in the bank accounts, once again it's not the subject of this thread. And making benefit is the essence of bank, so don't accuse Switzerland but the banking system!!!

temmytanny: are u saying bin laden denied 911 attack? I guess you are used to watching CONSPRACY THEORY in NATGEO in US.

Here is the link. Get yourself educated on an issue before you speak!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview-with-osama-bin-laden-denies-his-involvement-in-9-11/24697

miss-sweety86:


HAHAHAHA!!!! You use Wikipedia as a source of information and you think you know my country better than this because you've had a look at a wikipedia page about Switzerland Nigerians really amaze me today!!!!

Switzerland was involved in some wars, but this was a very long time ago, before the establishment of the Swiss confederation and later the federal state. If you were a bit informed (and more to say smart) you would know that Switzerland is a neutral country and that it hosts the United Nations Office and many international organizations and non governmental organizations. It was also a Swiss citizen (Henri Dunant) who started the ICRC (if you know what it is), so don't dare say that Switzerland is a country that creates war!!!!

And about the money in the bank accounts, once again it's not the subject of this thread. And making benefit is the essence of bank, so don't accuse Switzerland but the banking system!!!

You are actually less informed than i thought, so because the war was fought many years ago it shouldn't be counted?

What is wrong with using Wikipedia as source of info? Can you dispute the war history i got from Wiki?

You keep going on about America and the war they got involved in but your own country has fought as many wars as America did, did that not make you a hypocrite?

Like i stated before, many countries go to war for so many reasons, Swiss did the same, so stop acting as if your own country has not wasted blood of innocent people in the past just as America did.

justwise:

You are actually less informed than i thought, so because the war was fought many years ago it shouldn't be counted?

What is wrong with using Wikipedia as source of info? Can you dispute the war history i got from Wiki?

You keep going on about America and the war they got involved in but your own country has fought as many wars as America did, did that not make you a hypocrite?

Like i stated before, many countries go to war for so many reasons, Swiss did the same, so stop acting as if your own country has not wasted blood of innocent people in the past just as America did.

You are actually much more dumb than I thought

You are comparing the wars fought by my country to the wars fought by America? Men this is INSULTING!!! You can't understand swiss history just by taking a look at one wikipedia page! that is called COMMON SENSE, you seem to clearly lack of it!
The wars fought by Switzelrand were mainly defensive. The wars fought by America are cleary offensive. They went to Irak and Afghanistan in order to destroy the countries, nothing like the wars involving Switzerland. America has contributed to the death of billion of people, not to mention the disastrous consequences on the economy and environment of those countries.

Please, do yourself a favour: get some education before you start speaking on those issues!

miss-sweety86:


You are actually much more dumb than I thought

You are comparing the wars fought by my country to the wars fought by America? Men this is INSULTING!!! You can't understand swiss history just by taking a look at one wikipedia page! that is called COMMON SENSE, you seem to clearly lack of it!
The wars fought by Switzelrand were mainly defensive. The wars fought by America are cleary offensive. They went to Irak and Afghanistan in order to destroy the countries, nothing like the wars involving Switzerland. America has contributed to the death of billion of people, not to mention the disastrous consequences on the economy and environment of those countries.

Please, do yourself a favour: get some education before you start speaking on those issues!

Defensive or offensive war cost life and resources, Swiss and America are guilty of both, its ridiculous to make excuses for any war, your country wasted the lives of many through war just as America did, don't make a fool of yourself trying to make embarrassing excuses.

The lives of people who died during Swiss war are as important as those who died during America war, you trying to depend Swiss war as defensive is just a big joke.

so you are a very stupid person for comparing the war fought by those two countries. not gonna waste more time to try to get some sense into your head because you seem to be a desperate cause. before speaking more b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t like you've done for the past hours, go look at the consequences of the wars fought by America, then maybe you won't speak bullshit anymore!
but you seem to be one of these "I worship America" crazy person, so you won't see any harm done by that country. It's pathetic and makes me wanna throw up.

miss-sweety86:
so you are a very stupid person for comparing the war fought by those two countries. not gonna waste more time to try to get some sense into your head because you seem to be a desperate cause. before speaking more b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t like you've done for the past hours, go look at the consequences of the wars fought by America, then maybe you won't speak bullshit anymore!
but you seem to be one of these "I worship America" crazy person, so you won't see any harm done by that country. It's pathetic and makes me wanna throw up.

If you don't throw up because of lives wasted by your own country then you are disgustingly sick, war is war no matter who fought it, you are happy to defend your country and shamelessly going on and on about America and their wars.

Has Swiss gone to war before? Yes they have and killed innocent people just like America did, so get that into your empty skull.

since you have clearly no idea of what you're talking about, and clearly no education, i'll leave you ranting that Switzerland (yes, because it's Switzerland and not Swiss) is worse than America.

miss-sweety86:
since you have clearly no idea of what you're talking about, and clearly no education, i'll leave you ranting that Switzerland (yes, because it's Switzerland and not Swiss) is worse than America.

As educated as you are, you still call Iraq 'Irak'?

justwise:

As educated as you are, you still call Iraq 'Irak'?

u dey worri oooo,he beta make u live the babe jare... she no sabi anything

@justwise and @temmytanny: truly, she no sabi anything as temmy has said.

miss-sweety86:


So you like American because of their sense of solidarity? Maybe the invididuals you have met, but there is no solidarity in that country. Look for example at the social insurances: it's only those who can afford it that can be insured, there is no mutuality in the insurance system like there is in other countries.

Miss-sweety86,I am a Nigerian living in United State, I know what I am talking about, I love Switzerland too because I am a follower of HENRY DUNANT (The founder Of Red Cross),I am a member of Nigerian red cross and UNV. I know Switzerland is a neutral state and that has been the basis of your argument,my questions to you are:
do you support what Saddam Hussein was doing in Iraq,
do you support Qaddafi blood sucking regime
do you support the occupation of Taliban in Afghanistan,
do you support support Assad killing his people every minutes just because of Power,
do you support Iran nuclear capability to wipe off Isreal from the map?

I have never liked America and I don't mean to be rude. Security system there is nonsense. Any Tom dck and Harry can own a gun. You stop to buy gas and your heart is pumping cos you don't know who is going to release fire there and then.

jennykadry: I have never liked America and I don't mean to be rude. Security system there is nonsense. Any Tom dck and Harry can own a gun. You stop to buy gas and your heart is pumping cos you don't know who is going to release fire there and then.

Jenny, security system is superb, I guess you are talking about "right to own a gun".There is a debate going on presently on gun control and the government is taking serious measure on that, meanwhile, that is not enough to hate the country.

jennykadry: I have never liked America and I don't mean to be rude. Security system there is nonsense. Any Tom dck and Harry can own a gun. You stop to buy gas and your heart is pumping cos you don't know who is going to release fire there and then.

That is one thing that scares me to hell about America.

adesojiaderemi@:



Miss-sweety86,I am a Nigerian living in United State, I know what I am talking about, I love Switzerland too because I am a follower of HENRY DUNANT (The founder Of Red Cross),I am a member of Nigerian red cross and UNV. I know Switzerland is a neutral state and that has been the basis of your argument,my questions to you are:
do you support what Saddam Hussein was doing in Iraq,
do you support Qaddafi blood sucking regime
do you support the occupation of Taliban in Afghanistan,
do you support support Assad killing his people every minutes just because of Power,
do you support Iran nuclear capability to wipe off Isreal from the map?

No, I don't support any of that. But I highly condem the war started by the US/UK on Iraq because it destroyed the country for no reason. The US army has caused more damage to the lives of Iraqi than Saddam Hussein ever did. The US/UK started a war in Irak supposedly to bring peace, which doesn't make any sense because war can never bring peace. They attacked Iraq without the approval of the Security Council.
I don't support any of the regimes you mentionned, but I think the way the US government acted to solve the problem was really wrong and caused more damage than anything. The lives of Iraqi citizens was much better under Saddam Hussein than after the American occupation, but that's something the media don't show. But just look at the statisitcs: high mortality rates, low participation of women, endemic diseases, poor access to water and sanition,... everything was worsen after the American invasion. And I'm not even talking about the push of the US government for the 13 years of economic sanctions imposed on Iraq.

and for the stupid person who make the comment about Iraq/Irak: I'm bilingual French-English so sometimes I mix the two spellings. At least I don't call Iraqi "Iraqians"!!!