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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Gbawe: 6:10am On Dec 06, 2012
Sincere 9gerian:
NONSENSE! There's no any stupid formula for re-calculating what has been calculated and ranked already. You'r so desperate to play down this positive development, that you'r almost creating your own TI with your own formula and characteristics. If TI needed a formula to calculate 2011 ranking to make it tally with 2012, it would have done so before releasing the data. As it now, we can only judge whether improvement has been made or not by comparing our ranking last yr with that of 2012. The UNDENIABLE FACT is that we moved UP 4 places and we scored 27 or 2.7 in 2012 compared to 2.4 in 2011.
This same direct comparison is what FOREIGN media organisations did as exemplified below:

...Still, the broad picture that emerges is one that shows barely any improvements, even in the Arab Spring countries where citizen uprisings calling for greater accountability led to the overthrow of governments in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Yemen. Their rankings have essentially stagnated in the 21-41 percent range over the past year.
Myanmar, where a military dictatorship has given way to a more open regime, was also unchanged in its ranking amongst the most corrupt countries in the world. It scored 15 percent in 2012, and in 2011 had a rating of 1.5 out 10.
In China, where outgoing President Hu Jintao warned last month that the scourge of corruption could prove fatal and cause the state to collapse, slipped to 80 th place this year with a 39 percent rating among the 176 countries surveyed, against 75 th place out of 183 countries in 2011.
Brazil, in contrast, climbed to 69 th place from 73 rd . President Dilma Rousseff has declared a zero-tolerance policy on corruption, firing ministers suspected of graft and its Supreme Court, in a landmark trial,handed down unprecedented prison terms for former political aides, lawmakers and business associates of former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva for buyingvotes to push through legislation. Brazil scored 43 percent in 2012 after a 3.8 rating the prior year.
place at 36 percent respectively.In 2011, Ireland was in 19 th place and Greece 80 th place.
Those scoring 70 percent or above included the most highly developed nations in western Europe, Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand and Japan, plus the islands of Singapore, Hong Kong, Barbados, Bahamas and St Lucia. There also were two Latin American countries - Chile and Uruguay.
http://www.trust.org/trustlaw/news/global-corruption-remains-high-in-2012-despite-arab-spring-transparency-international/

Not surprised you had to type this garbage 3 times. Desperate folks like you, with no real point, try 'bombardment' in the hope a lie told many times begins to appear as the truth. Mainstream media is slower to react than NL mainly because this forum has many who talk without thinking like you. So wait till expert analysis of TI's 2012 rating begin to come out to see how foolish you and other clowns will look. I have already given you all solid clues to show we are regressing yet you fail to take heed because you are brainwashed or paid to overlook logic.

If Russia that was same with us last year and has improved to be above us, with 28 points, is still adjudged as not really impressive then what does that tell you and other desperados? Read the part in bold below with some being the position of TI as regards Nigeria. Folks like you have no shame so I know you will ignore what TI itself thinks to carry on your 'naked' dance.

I still suggest , despite your lack of shame, that you and your desperate co-travellers should stop fooling yourselves. It will be worse from here on when intelligent and balanced analysts/observers provide their submission that is devoid of the sycophantic jargon you bring here. You see the report below is dated today and Maku, unlike your snail-slow self, is already backtracking and blaming Nigerians? You are an uber-sycophant , plus snail-slow to boot, but even you should discern why Maku has gone on the defensive in trying to launder his bosses image.

http://www.punchng.com/news/nigeria-is-35th-most-corrupt-nation-ti/

Nigeria is 35th most corrupt nation –TI

DECEMBER 6, 2012 BY DAYO OKETOLA AND OLALEKAN ADETAYO 16 COMMENTS


THE global corruption watchdog, Transparency International, has ranked Nigeria as the 35th most corrupt nation in the world.

The Corruption Perception Index 2012 released on Wednesday revealed that Nigeria scored 27 out of a maximum 100 marks to clinch the 139th position out of the 176 countries surveyed for the report.

[size=14pt]Nigeria, sharing the position with Azerbaijan, Kenya, Nepal and Pakistan, is said to have remained entrenched in corruption without making much progress to fight the menace.

While countries such as Togo, Mali, Niger and Benin fared better, experts decried Nigeria’s poor performance in stamping corruption out.

Nigeria placed 143rd in the 2011 rankings, making it the 39th most corrupt country but experts said it was difficult to determine whether the country had improved in the ranking this year.

This, they said, was because 182, six more than this year’s, were ranked in 2011.

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The CPI 2012 confirmed recent media reports that President Goodluck Jonathan lied to the citizens when he claimed in his Independence day broadcast on October 1 that Nigeria was rated second after the United States by TI. TI, of course, denied issuing such a report.

Since 1995 TI has been publishing the CPI annually, ranking countries by their perceived levels of corruption, as determined by expert assessments and opinion surveys. The CPI generally defines corruption as “the misuse of public power for private benefit.”

Reacting to the country’s new rating on the corruption scale, Minister of Information, Mr. Labaran Maku, on Wednesday said the President could not be blamed for the latest corruption ranking of the country.

He said such reports were based on the comments of Nigerians who were always eager to tell the world how bad the country is.

He regretted that such aggregate of people’s perceptions did not recognise the various efforts being put in place by the government to fight corruption.

“The President does not sit in court to imprison people. There are institutions set up to do such. We do not follow the line in this country. We believe that if a market is not working in a village or there is an accident, the President is responsible,” he said.

According to TI, the 2012 index ranks 176 countries/territories by their perceived levels of public sector corruption. The index draws on 13 surveys covering expert assessments and surveys of business people.

[size=14pt]The body particularly criticised Jonathan for paying lip service to anti-graft war and not showing enough drive to fight corruption, especially corruption involving past and current actors in his administration.
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The president had also been carpeted for his reluctance in promoting transparency by failing to publicly declare his assets.

Ranging from the monumental fuel subsidy scam to the massive corruption uncovered in pension administration as well as the scams at the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Bureau of Public Enterprises, many Nigerians have already rated the Jonathan-led administration very low in the fight against corruption.

Government officials, including some of President Jonathan’s associates have been named in the brazen theft of public funds. Sons of both a past and incumbent national chairmen of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party were indicted and are currently undergoing trial for robbing the country of several billions of naira under the fuel subsidy regime.

On Monday, the country’s most widely read newspaper, The PUNCH, ran a front page comment denouncing the management of the country’s resources by the Jonathan administration.

Appalled by the approval for the construction of N2.2bn banqueting hall for entertaining the President’s guests at the Villa, the paper’s editorial said, “Jonathan government has continuously demonstrated that the interest of the larger Nigerian citizens is not its priority and that profligacy is its cardinal principle.

“There are many depressing examples. In the 2011 budget, N18bn went for the maintenance of presidential planes, which could provide decent accommodation for 18 million people going by the UN-Habitat estimates. In the 2012 budget, it set aside N1.9bn for the purchase of an additional aircraft for the already bloated Presidential fleet and N1.5bn for guest houses for some senior lawmakers. This is happening in a country where a prized possession for many is a generator.”
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Nobody: 7:20am On Dec 06, 2012
@Gbawe..,I'm not surprised by that report of Punch. We shouldn't expect a goat to get fair judgement in hand of a lion. Punch is an arm of the ACN, just like Premium Times is the handbag of El Rufai. I'm sure they'll all be DISAPPOINTED that despite their propaganda on how corruption had allegedly grown ASTRONOMICALLY in the last 2yrs, TI revealed exactly the opposite. Nig climbed up 4 places and scored more absolute points. If not for the propaganda, Nig would have MADE MUCH PROGRESS. Unfortunately, because of politics, we continue to RUN DOWN our country and ourselves. By the way, is there ANY LAW that says STATE GOVERNORS SHOULD NOT FIGHT CORRUPTION? If Lagos could have traffic law, apprehend offenders and prosecute them, ban okada, why cant it prosecute those who have stolen its money or who request bribe? How many aides, cabinet members, civil servants,etc have been either sacked, reprimanded or outrightly prosecuted in Lagos or CPC controlled Nasarawa? Perhaps ALL the civil servants in those states are progressive SAINTS or progressive thieves or bribe takers? Why are we always focused on the centre forgetting that much of the contact between Nigerians/foreigners and the public sector is with civil servants under the control of the states. The governor of Bayelsa state recently fired and initiated the prosecution of some civil servants for allegation of corruption. Why cant other governors do same? Is it FORBIDDEN for governors to fight corruption? Of course EFCC cannot be everywhere and their activities are limited by available funds and personnel. The much of the data analysed by TI for the ranking of countries is obtained NOT from how contracts are awarded in Abuja but from the attitude of civil servants at the lowest level and MOST of these civil servants are under the state governor. I'm not exonerating the FG but I think if we want REAL PROGRESS, all hands must be on deck.
Sometimes its difficult to understand what the opposition and critics of GEJ really want. They are saying GEJ should declare his asset PUBLICLY but surprsingly we've been talking about constitution review for almost a year now but NOBODY, not even the opposition in the NASS or the critics of GEJ, is talking about amending the law to make asset declaration by ALL or a certain category of public servants a public thing. This is shocking. Why do they want GEJ to declare his assets PUBLICLY but not Fashola or Tambuwai? Of what benefit is trying to be the ONLY wise man in a class of 1,000 FOOLS? Why not we amend the law so all civil servants or top category of civil servants will be made to declare their assets publicly? How would GEJ alone declaring his assets publicly help the fight against corruption? Some people are just Mischief Makers

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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Demdem(m): 8:16am On Dec 06, 2012
^^^^

Why dont u take a good look at the Punch's report and fault whatever u feel may have been exaggerated with facts or better still bring forth any report from the pro-Govt papers like Thisday, tribune, sun etc. The question that should bother is "Did Punch reported the story has explained by TI well or not?"
As long as none of what was written by punch is untrue, its admissible.
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Gbawe: 8:36am On Dec 06, 2012
Demdem: ^^^^

Why dont u take a good look at the Punch's report and fault whatever u feel may have been exaggerated with facts or better still bring forth any report from the pro-Govt papers like Thisday, tribune, sun etc. The question that should bother is "Did Punch reported the story has explained by TI well or not?"
As long as none of what was written by punch is untrue, its admissible.

By the time all Newspapers, analysts and public observers concur that there is no improvement, we will see what excuse Mr. Omokri will come out with next in his dubious effort to bamboozle the "gullible" elements.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106807:again-transparency-international-ranks-nigeria-low-in-war-against-graft&catid=31:business&Itemid=562

Again, Transparency International ranks Nigeria low in war against graft
WEDNESDAY, 05 DECEMBER 2012 19:47 BY FRANCIS OBINOR BUSINESS SERVICES - BUSINESS NEWS



THE Transparency International (TI) has ranked Nigeria 139 out of 176 countries in its corruption perception for this year, scoring it 27 per cent in its review.

[size=14pt]The indication showed that the war against graft has remained moribund despite government’s assurance that it was wining the battle.[/size]

The group, which ranked Nigeria 143 out of 182 countries under its graft perception last year, also called on world leaders to pay more attention to the fight against corruption as it is a major threat facing humanity.

In a report published by the group Wednesday, it said “corruption translates into human suffering, with poor families being extorted for bribes to see doctors or to get access to clean drinking water. It leads to failure in the delivery of basic services like education or healthcare. It derails the building of essential infrastructure, as corrupt leaders skim funds. Corruption amounts to a dirty tax, and the poor and most vulnerable are its primary victims”.

The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries and territories based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be on a scale of 0-100, with where 0 means that a country is perceived as highly corrupt and 100 means it is perceived as very clean.

The rankings are based on perception of opinion polls and last year, the organisation ranked Nigeria 143 out of 182.

Some other African countries on the list are South Africa, Equatorial Guinea, Cameroon, Libya, Chad, Burundi, Zimbabwe, Sudan and Somalia being the most corrupt country.

TI is a non-governmental organisation that monitors and publicizes corporate and political corruption in international development. It publishes an annual Corruption Perceptions Index, a comparative listing of corruption worldwide. The headquarters is located in Berlin, Germany but operates through more than 70 national chapters.

Defining corruption as the abuse of entrusted power for private gain which eventually hurts everyone who depends on the integrity of people in a position of authority, it mainly visions for a world in which government, politics, business, civil society, and the daily lives of people are free of corruption.

TI consists of more than 100 chapters – locally established, independent organisations – that fight corruption in their respective countries. From small bribes to large-scale looting, corruption differs from country to country.

As chapters are staffed with local experts they are ideally placed to determine the priorities and approaches best suited to tackling corruption in their countries.

This work ranges from visiting rural communities to provide free legal support to advising their government on policy reform. Corruption does not stop at national borders. The chapters play a crucial role in shaping its collective work and realising its regional and global goals, such as Strategy 2015.

Transparency International’s multi-country research and advocacy initiatives are driven by the chapters.
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Demdem(m): 8:42am On Dec 06, 2012
^^^^^

Surely Guardian isnt pro-ACN. But will this report make them so? Time will tell. cool cool
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by GARRIx7(m): 9:04am On Dec 06, 2012
[size=38pt]..... and when GBAWE entered, our party ended .....
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embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Dee60: 9:20am On Dec 06, 2012
The fact remains that corruption in both private and public sectors remain endemic. We need a more drastic reaction. Nigeria may not survive these marginal improvements as recorded by TI. Wake up guys.
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by blacksta(m): 9:29am On Dec 06, 2012
I love u Gbawe grin
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Iolo(m): 9:31am On Dec 06, 2012
PointB: I think contrary to the hate campaign by the opposition media and their agents in cyberspace, the International World (Transparency International for example) recognize the fact that the first step in fighting corruption is via transparency (no pun intended). The present government deliberate policy of exposing the rot in the oil and other sectors is very remarkable. It gives the population the opportunity to see for themselves, the corrupt practices enshrined over time, and well covered up by past governments in Nigeria, with options and solutions for dealing with them - i.e. full subsidy removal, deregulation, reform, transformation, privatization, budget cuts and tightening.

While the media may not appreciate the import of this (transparency) due to their partisan agenda, Transparency International, the world foremost corruption rating agency does, and rightly so.

Kudos to the Government for this improvement, even if it is marginal.

If not for this, most of the corruption cases we've heard about from the pension scam to the subsidy scam etc etc would have not come to the limelight at all. Exposing corruption as GEJ is doing is the first step towards fixing our corrupt system. I just hope he goes beyond this.

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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Iolo(m): 9:41am On Dec 06, 2012
Why is it that till date, no state government has deemed it fit to create its own Anti - Corruption agency. Not even the opposition states.

I do think that the corruption fight shouldn't be left for GEJ and the EFCC alone. States should wad in and clean up their civil service too, they can at least show the FG how its done. That's the fastest way to get to the promise land.

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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Makzylopez: 10:01am On Dec 06, 2012
we should for once acknowledge and commend recorded improvements. its a gradual process.
Demdem: These are probably part of the reasons why Nigeria didnt have a better score no doubt. We could have done better.



Nigeria remained rooted to the bottom of the global corruption ranking Wednesday as global corruption watchdog, Transparency International, rated it the 35th most corrupt country in the world.

In a report released at 6 a.m. Wednesday, Nigeria scored 27 out of a maximum 100 marks to clinch the 139th position out of the 176 countries surveyed for the report. It shared that position with Azerbaijan, Kenya, Nepal and Pakistan.

Countries such as Togo, Mali, Niger and Benin fared better than Nigeria.

Nigeria placed 143rd in the 2011 ranking, making it the 37th most corrupt country. It is difficult to say Nigeria has improved in the ranking this year because 182, six more than this year’s, were ranked in 2011. cry cry cry cry shocked shocked shocked shocked

This year’s index ranks 176 countries/territories by their perceived levels of public sector corruption, TI explained in the report.
The index draws on 13 surveys covering expert assessments and surveys of businesspeople.
The Corruption Perceptions Index is the leading indicator of public sector corruption, offering a yearly snapshot of the relative degree of the corruption problem by ranking countries from all over the globe.
Nigeria’s woeful performance in this year’s survey is not entirely surprising.

Since assuming office in 2010, President Jonathan has not shown vigour in the fight against corruption – including corruption involving past and current actors in his administration.
The tipping point in the president’s profile, regarding reluctance in promoting transparency, came when, in televised media chat in June, he scoffed at a question on why he had not publicly declared his asset. On live television, the president snapped “I don’t give a damn!”


The petroleum minister, Diezani Madueke, a close ally of the president, has heaps of established corruption allegations against her, but none has been investigated by Mr. Jonathan’s administration; while she still remains in office as one of the favorite ministers.
In August 2011, President Goodluck Jonathan secretly ordered the payment of $155 million to Malabu oil, a firm owned by an ex-convict and former petroleum minister, Dan Etete. Not only was the payment done without the knowledge of the Finance Minister, as revealed by PREMIUM TIMES, Malabu transferred the money into dubious accounts including that owned by a man with links to Mr. Jonathan. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives have agreed to investigate the Malabu scandal.


Ranging from the monumental fuel subsidy scam to the massive corruption uncovered in pension administration to the scams at the Security and Exchange Commission and the Bureau of Public Enterprises, Nigeria stinks with graft. Government officials, including some of Mr. Jonathan’s favourite appointees have been named in the brazen theft of public funds.

Two members of the President’s cabinet, Godsday Orubebe and Stella Oduah, illegally registered an NGO, Neighbour to Neighbour, on whose board they sit, and which they then used in campaigning for the President’s election; in contravention of CAC registration guidelines and the CAMA Act. The presidency has kept mum on this.

There have been several cases of visitors to the Presidential Villa offered huge sums of money after their visits. The Save Nigeria Group was offered $30 thousand, and the Northern elders N20 million; both groups rejected the cash gifts given to them by the presidency.
There are also piles of corruption cases involving government officials, politicians and ‘friends of the government’ that have been lingering for years while perpetrators roam free.


Yet, in his Independence Day anniversary speech to Nigerians, President Jonathan claimed his administration had made substantial gains in the fight against corruption, saying TI had endorsed and praised his administration’s war against corruption.
Transparency International promptly replied, disowning Mr. Jonathan and saying it had no such report.


TI described this year’s report as an indication that “corruption is a major threat facing humanity. Corruption destroys lives and communities, and undermines countries and institutions. It generates popular anger that threatens to further destabilise societies and exacerbate violent conflicts.”
The organization added, “Corruption translates into human suffering, with poor families being extorted for bribes to see doctors or to get access to clean drinking water. It leads to failure in the delivery of basic services like education or healthcare. It derails the building of essential infrastructure, as corrupt leaders skim funds.

“Governments need to integrate anti-corruption actions into all aspects of decision-making. They must prioritise better rules on lobbying and political financing, make public spending and contracting more transparent, and make public bodies more accountable.”

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/109853-nigeria-is-35th-most-corrupt-in-the-world-says-transparency-international-2012-report.html
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Demdem(m): 10:10am On Dec 06, 2012
Iolo: Why is it that till date, no state government has deemed it fit to create its own Anti - Corruption agency. Not even the opposition states.

I do think that the corruption fight shouldn't be left for GEJ and the EFCC alone. States should wad in and clean up their civil service too, they can at least show the FG how its done. That's the fastest way to get to the promise land.

Lets start with state police. All others will follow.
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Gbawe: 10:22am On Dec 06, 2012
GARRI (x7):
[size=38pt]..... and when GBAWE enetered, our party ended .....
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grin grin grin grin I have a habit of doing that ...... Party pooper that I am cool cool

My brother, "some people dey call dem mumu, some people they call dem oluku"..................

I keep telling Mr.Omokri to take his rudimentary propaganda elsewhere but he won't listen. He is bandying some silly 27 and 24 scores around obdurately and foolishly when informed observers know, because of change in methodology, one cannot use comparison to last years score as a mark of improvement. The real picture is far different from that simplistic and uninformed view. If not that some Nigerians are thoroughly dishonest people, should Mr.Omokri be here talking nonsense when everybody accepts that the comparison he seeks to make is null and void?


http://www.mainjustice.com/justanticorruption/2012/12/05/u-s-russia-nigeria-see-positive-gains-in-corruption-perceptions-index/

In the overall rankings, Russia rose 133 from 143 last year. Despite the increase, the country has an individual score of 28, which indicates a high corruption perception. Nigeria, which had tied with Russia in 2011, is now 139 overall, though it has an individual score of 27.

[size=14pt]Because the index has an updated methodology, individual country scores from 2012 cannot be compared with previous years. Last year's list ranked 183 countries.[/size]
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Nobody: 11:33am On Dec 06, 2012
Gbawe:


grin grin grin grin I have a habit of doing that ...... Party pooper that I am cool cool

My brother, "some people dey call dem mumu, some people they call dem oluku"..................

I keep telling Mr.Omokri to take his rudimentary propaganda elsewhere but he won't listen. He is bandying some silly 27 and 24 scores around obdurately and foolishly when informed observers know, because of change in methodology, one cannot use comparison to last years score as a mark of improvement. The real picture is far different from that simplistic and uninformed view. If not that some Nigerians are thoroughly dishonest people, should Mr.Omokri be here talking nonsense when everybody accepts that the comparison he seeks to make is null and void?


http://www.mainjustice.com/justanticorruption/2012/12/05/u-s-russia-nigeria-see-positive-gains-in-corruption-perceptions-index/

Sorry, that is your opinion. However the fact remains that Nigeria moved up 4 places in 2012 ranking and scored 27( rated from 0 to 100), an improvement over 2.4(rated from 0 to 10) of last yr.

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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by usmanyaro17: 11:36am On Dec 06, 2012
I don't get it,is it that some people are angry because we have improved or what? It is really pathetic....

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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Nobody: 11:47am On Dec 06, 2012
usmanyaro17: I don't get it,is it that some people are angry because we have improved or what? It is really pathetic....
Dont mind them. Its all politics. Those in the opposition can even destroy Nig with a nuclear bomb if that will give them political ADVANTAGE. Which nation will make progress with this sort of DESTRUCTIVE politics? Where is NATIONAL INTEREST in all of this?
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Gbawe: 12:45pm On Dec 06, 2012
Sincere 9gerian:
Sorry, that is your opinion. However the fact remains [b]that Nigeria moved up 4 places in 2012 [/b]ranking and scored 27( rated from 0 to 100), an improvement over 2.4(rated from 0 to 10) of last yr.

Yes, when at least 6-8 less Nations formed the 2012 poll in comparison to 2011. What is wrong with you? Highly dishonest and unscrupulous People like you are the real enemies of Nigeria and the reason we are where we are today. You sell your soul to the devil and then blind your eyes to the negative antics of the devil you worship.

We all have ethnic and political affiliations/bias but decent folks draw the line at defending what conclusive facts/evidence shows should not be defended. Pathetically disgraceful. TI has rated our 2012 effort as "moribund". Mr.Omokri, do you not know the meaning of that word or are you just shameless beyond belief to the extent you can remain here talking garbage and attempting to deceive those you conclude vindicate the adage that the black man does not like to read?
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by taharqa: 1:00pm On Dec 06, 2012
I hate to say dis: but MAYBE @Gbawe has a point..am talking d article on Ghana's TI he postd 1st (not those oda articles like PT and Punch).... Lets await clarificatn on d basis of d calculatn of index usd dis yr (not d ranking which means little)
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by taharqa: 1:05pm On Dec 06, 2012
Let me mk myself clear: i hv not changd my views expressd on dis thread at all yet, but i honestly think dat d article on Ghana TI score and d possibility of a change in d calculatn of d index is interesting enuf to warrant furda clarificatns
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Gbawe: 1:20pm On Dec 06, 2012
taharqa: I hate to say dis: but MAYBE @Gbawe has a point..am talking d article on Ghana's TI he postd 1st (not those oda articles like PT and Punch).... Lets await clarificatn on d basis of d calculatn of index usd dis yr (not d ranking which means little)

Thank you. Instead of insulting me, just view what i write fairly as you do here. I do not hate anyone. Whether people believe it or not, I am very comfortable and derive absolutely nothing from politics. I am one of those, in reality, who should shut his big mouth and just enjoy "papa god handwork" but the abject situation of my fellow Nigerians just cannot allow me to be apathetic.
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by GARRIx7(m): 1:20pm On Dec 06, 2012
taharqa: I hate to say dis: [b]but MAYBE @Gbawe has a poi[/b]nt..am talking d article on Ghana's TI he postd 1st (not those oda articles like PT and Punch).... Lets await clarificatn on d basis of d calculatn of index usd dis yr (not d ranking which means little)

Thanks for being broad-minded......
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by Nobody: 1:38pm On Dec 06, 2012
taharqa: Let me mk myself clear: i hv not changd my views expressd on dis thread at all yet, but i honestly think dat d article on Ghana TI score and d possibility of a change in d calculatn of d index is interesting enuf to warrant furda clarificatns
I'm surprised you'r falling for the cheap propaganda of these internet bandits. No matter how you look at it, a score of 27 over 100 is better than a score of 2.4 over 10. Forget the stupid formula @Gbawe.,was trying to push. Any formula outside the official ranking by TI is nonsense. I can only be objectively convinced that there was no improvement in our ranking if it can be shown that the 6 or 7 countries not including in this year ranking were ALL ranked ABOVE Nigeria in 2011(which is almost impossible). Otherwise, the propagandist have no case. Also, you need to also take into consideration the MASSIVE propaganda to PORTRAY Nigeria as the MOST corrupt country in the world by DIE HARD anti-GEJ elements? This is important because even the TI ranking is based mostly on PERCEPTION. This can only be likened to SCREAMING THIEF,THIEF at a man who is struggling to build a better image. In that sort of scenerio, how do you know the man has changed for the better? Therefore, if you minus the massive propaganda, Nigeria would have done better. Even if, without conceding, that the country maintained the same position as last yr, DESPITE the ONSLAUGHT and PROPAGANDA, that itself is progress. The full weight of the propaganda this yr was enough to push the ranking of Nigeria down to the MOST CORRUPT country in the world.
Anyway, i strongly believe that our ranking in 2013 will be much better because the propagandists are already exhausting all their arsenal.

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Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by occam(m): 4:12pm On Dec 06, 2012
Sincere 9gerian:
I'm surprised you'r falling for the cheap propaganda of these internet bandits. No matter how you look at it, a score of 27 over 100 is better than a score of 2.4 over 10. Forget the stupid formula @Gbawe.,was trying to push. Any formula outside the official ranking by TI is nonsense. I can only be objectively convinced that there was no improvement in our ranking if it can be shown that the 6 or 7 countries not including in this year ranking were ALL ranked ABOVE Nigeria in 2011(which is almost impossible). Otherwise, the propagandist have no case. Also, you need to also take into consideration the MASSIVE propaganda to PORTRAY Nigeria as the MOST corrupt country in the world by DIE HARD anti-GEJ elements? This is important because even the TI ranking is based mostly on PERCEPTION. This can only be likened to SCREAMING THIEF,THIEF at a man who is struggling to build a better image. In that sort of scenerio, how do you know the man has changed for the better? Therefore, if you minus the massive propaganda, Nigeria would have done better. Even if, without conceding, that the country maintained the same position as last yr, DESPITE the ONSLAUGHT and PROPAGANDA, that itself is progress. The full weight of the propaganda this yr was enough to push the ranking of Nigeria down to the MOST CORRUPT country in the world.
Anyway, i strongly believe that our ranking in 2013 will be much better because the propagandists are already exhausting all their arsenal.

The TI made changes to their methodology in 2012. See FAQ below. So don't place too much value to any small change. Let's wait to see 2013 numbers.
http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/in_detail#myAnchor7

Nevertheless, corruption continues to bring undue hardship and poverty in Nigeria and the ruling elite (especially this govt) has no desire nor will to tackle this cancer.
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by BetaThings: 4:12pm On Dec 06, 2012
PointB: I think contrary to the hate campaign by the opposition media and their agents in cyberspace, the International World (Transparency International for example) recognize the fact that the first step in fighting corruption is via transparency (no pun intended). The present government deliberate policy of exposing the rot in the oil and other sectors is very remarkable. It gives the population the opportunity to see for themselves, the corrupt practices enshrined over time, and well covered up by past governments in Nigeria, with options and solutions for dealing with them - i.e. full subsidy removal, deregulation, reform, transformation, privatization, budget cuts and tightening.

While the media may not appreciate the import of this (transparency) due to their partisan agenda, Transparency International, the world foremost corruption rating agency does, and rightly so.

Kudos to the Government for this improvement, even if it is marginal.
Transparency
So let us have all the probe panel reports like CNPP recommended
Re: Nigeria Anti-corruption Index Improves - TI 2012 Report by jmaine: 5:02pm On Dec 06, 2012
There is no point dancing around in a futile fashion . . .Whatever indices used boil down to the final overall score . .and that overall score was applied to all sampled countries with Nigeria gaining an indices of 2.7 . .A minor appreciation from 2.4 in 2011 . . . . . .

Trying to dilute and taint that minute appreciation falls flat on basic inference . . .

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