berylLOL:
so you are talking based on just your family members and a few dead people around you right? Ok.

You asked me about my family and I answered. . . .I have already given you my position on faith healing in my very first post. It does not exist the way believers want us to believe. . .

Atheist:-D:


Really. Then we will have a lot of ppl being 'encouraged' to avoid hospitals and proper treatment at risk of their life. Ppl have to be made accountable for thier actions.

Also, even sane ppl have periods where they are confused and weak and can be exploited. An ill person will clearly be less emotionally and psychologically balanced than when they are well (due to despair).

so you are trying to say christians stop other christians from going to hospitals?

mazaje:

You asked me about my family and I answered. . . .I have already given you my position on faith healing in my very first post. It does not exist the way believers want us to believe. . .

Ok, thanks for your point.

berylLOL:
there's a great diff between Miracles n Magic yo..and Criss is obviously a Magician, he hasnt even used his so called powers for any humanitarian deed.

If you had properly researched Him you would see that He has. In fact is miracles about humanitarian deeds?

Affiliated:

If you had properly researched Him you would see that He has. In fact is miracles about humanitarian deeds?

miracles aint about making money for yourself...dats one thing I know.

berylLOL:
miracles aint about making money for yourself...dats one thing I know.

Said the rich pastors who collect tithes and offerings and call people to share testimonies every sunday

berylLOL:
so you are trying to say christians stop other christians from going to hospitals?

Not only xtians, there are some pastors, prophets and faith healers who do such.

@ OP: I think the greatest miracle of all is the universe which God created. What miracle could possibly best that ?

Uyi Iredia: @ OP: I think the greatest miracle of all is the universe which God created. What miracle could possibly best that ?

From faith healing to the universe as a miracle, eh?. . .Hmmmm

Uyi Iredia: @ OP: I think the greatest miracle of all is the universe which God created. What miracle could possibly best that ?

If God could show himself. That would be the best miracle of all

berylLOL:
been a year now..any problem?

Yes. You use hospitals but see nothing wrong with others being encouraged not to go?

Atheist:-D:


If God could show himself. That would be the best miracle of all

In a sense He has. Did you conveniently forget Jesus Christ.

mazaje:

From faith healing to the universe as a miracle, eh?. . .Hmmmm

Hmmm.

Uyi Iredia:

In a sense He has. Did you conveniently forget Jesus Christ.

I forgot.

You are a trinitarian. Others might argue otherwise.

By the way I refer to this present day.

wiegraf:

Yes. You use hospitals but see nothing wrong with others being encouraged not to go?

now this is funny..read my question slowly and tell me how this relates to it.

Affiliated:

Said the rich pastors who collect tithes and offerings and call people to share testimonies every sunday

well, the Bible says pay your tithes and offerings..who are we to argue against GOD's word?moreover if you dont wanna pay, you sit your ass down. The pastor in my church doesnt tell people to come pay to watch him bring down God's blessings.

Atheist:-D:


If God could show himself. That would be the best miracle of all

lol, don't worry, he's coming back soon.. I pray you change your mindset before then atheist.

mazaje:

From faith healing to the universe as a miracle, eh?. . .Hmmmm

God is full of wonders mehn..

berylLOL:
lol, don't worry, he's coming back soon.. I pray you change your mindset before then atheist.

I wont hold my breath.

Atheist:-D:


Not only xtians, there are some pastors, prophets and faith healers who do such.

thank God you said SOME..

Atheist:-D:


I wont hold my breath.

oh You will..

berylLOL:
thank God you said SOME..

It is always some. But the ones that do it are a catastrophe for xtianity. It should not be overlooked.

Atheist:-D:


It is always some. But the ones that do it are a catastrophe for xtianity. It should not be overlooked.

well do what you know how to do best..open a thread against pastors doing such(if you've not done dt already) as for me, I wont go about judging Men of God..especially when I've not come across a pastor who has told a dying Man not to see a doctor.

berylLOL:
well, the Bible says pay your tithes and offerings..who are we to argue against GOD's word?moreover if you dont wanna pay, you sit your ass down. The pastor in my church doesnt tell people to come pay to watch him bring down God's blessings.

But Criss Angel doesn't collect tithes or offerings or people's money for that matter. There was a time that in appreciation of the US Airforce, he materialized a fighter jet out of thin air for the air force. Now what bishop or pastor can do that? Yet you claim that He is only about making money

berylLOL:
now this is funny..read my question slowly and tell me how this relates to it.

Who says that has to do with any of your inane questions except the one where you ask me if there was a problem you d.olt?

wiegraf:

Who says that has to do with any of your inane questions except the one where you ask me if there was a problem you d.olt?

well, I didn't open this thread to be asked questions by somehow who obviously can't use his brain. Thanks for stopping by, now gtfoh

Affiliated:

But Criss Angel doesn't collect tithes or offerings or people's money for that matter. There was a time that in appreciation of the US Airforce, he materialized a fighter jet out of thin air for the air force. Now what bishop or pastor can do that? Yet you claim that He is only about making money

no Pastor would collect tithes if the Bible hadn't said such, pastors dont go about performing magic, magic is for magicians like Criss, oh..and pls tell me more about how Criss doesnt make money from his performances.!!

berylLOL:
well do what you know how to do best..open a thread against pastors doing such(if you've not done dt already) as for me, I wont go about judging Men of God..especially when I've not come across a pastor who has told a dying Man not to see a doctor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14406818

There are other similar stories too

berylLOL:
well, I didn't open this thread to be asked questions by somehow who obviously can't use his brain. Thanks for stopping by, now gtfoh

Heh heh. I'm not done yet. I like it here, it's a public forum. You asked for atheists to address this, we're doing that now. You cannot even tell us any anecdotal stories, let alone provide proof of these miracles we're supposed to have opinions of? That's a particularly stoopid thing to do, indicating you may have been dropped on your head as an infant. Wishful thinking, I know, as it's probably genetic. I would have preferred you didn't worsen our already sorry gene pool in this country.

Answer the question. You go to hospitals but believe in the eediocy that are miracles, yes?


To be fair, I'm not reading your posts per se, they're a bit too m.oronic to shift through, so you may have answered this before.

berylLOL:
no Pastor would collect tithes if the Bible hadn't said such, pastors dont go about performing magic, magic is for magicians like Criss, oh..and pls tell me more about how Criss doesnt make money from his performances.!!

I really don't understand what you are arguing about. You asked for an explanation for miracles and I gave you one. You claim its magic which is about money only so it doesn't count and I pointed out that the miracle workers also make money from their stunts. What exactly are you saying? Criss Angel makes money from selling television rights and merchandises rather than asking people to pay because God said of they do, He will pay them back. Please

Affiliated:

I really don't understand what you are arguing about. You asked for an explanation for miracles and I gave you one. You claim its magic which is about money only so it doesn't count and I pointed out that the miracle workers also make money from their stunts. What exactly are you saying? Criss Angel makes money from selling television rights and merchandises rather than asking people to pay because God said of they do, He will pay them back. Please

I know, I get your point ok, was just tryna clear something about tithes collection.

wiegraf:

Heh heh. I'm not done yet. I like it here, it's a public forum. You asked for atheists to address this, we're doing that now. You cannot even tell us any anecdotal stories, let alone provide proof of these miracles we're supposed to have opinions of? That's a particularly stoopid thing to do, indicating you may have been dropped on your head as an infant. Wishful thinking, I know, as it's probably genetic. I would have preferred you didn't worsen our already sorry gene pool in this country.

Answer the question. You go to hospitals but believe in the eediocy that are miracles, yes?


To be fair, I'm not reading your posts per se, they're a bit too m.oronic to shift through, so you may have answered this before.

but you are not addressing anything, you just blabbing, don't worry you've been duly noticed. it's obvious you dunno much about being an atheist(dats if you even one)..well you can go on posting and proving how stuupid you really are. Cheers!