MostHigh: Joagbaje you say christ broke the law, but I say he was blameless and obeyed the law to the very end this is expressly confirmed by scripture (all of yashua's actions)

Not only are you ignoring his obviouse actions you are also PRESUMING to know why he is acting the way he is (a dangerouse stance)

The people followed him everywhere, remember the sermon on the mount? so if he wanted he could have set up his own synagouge to enable him evangelise more quickly and broadly. abi how you see am?. I dont think so, as we can see by his actions that he chose to obey the set down establishement

Joagbaje so

1. If a man Harvests food to eat from his garden on the sabbath he has sinned?

2. A doctor heals a sick person on the sabbath he has sinned?

3.being lord of the sabbath means to disregards the sabbath?

MostHigh: Joagbaje pls

1. Can I have your commentry on math 5:17 it is way overdue

2. Also you have not answerd my VERY DIRECT question. WHAT IS THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE OF THE 1000YR KINGDOM OF CHRIS

Peace love and joy!!!

MostHigh: We give thanks for all participation.

Joagbaje I can see that you have finally come to a halt, it was good reasoning with you.

Peace love and joy!!!

MostHigh: 1. ''Jesus was born under the law. Certain things were customary and part of the life they lived . But he was not under obligation to the law . He rather came with a higher law.''

If this is true then how come he is teaching the multitudes pure LAW on the mount? joabgaje reason this critically o!

Are you saying he is constant reference to the LAW on the mount was only a guise

2. ''The law of the sabbath was not binding on him. He spoke for himself.''

JOAGBAJE what is the LAWLESS man LAWLESS about 2 thess 2?? pls educate us.

Can you please educate us on what laws if any were binding on Yashua son of joseph?

Joagbaje There is no law without sin and vice versa

Are you saying in the time of yashua or even now there is no sin in the world?

Is it not from the same LAW you disregard that we are to get insrtuctions in rightousness and obtain reproof?

I have asked before now are you saying yashua is the LAWLESS man of 2 thess 2?

Looks like you have forgotten the instructions of the most high and are following the doctines of MEN

JOAGBAJE WHAT IS THE (CONSTITUTION) OF THE 1000YR KINGDOM OF CHRIST??

MostHigh: jOAGBAJE iF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE 1000YR KINGDOM IS JUST SAY SO THEN WE CAN MOVE FOWARD

Joagbaje:

Pls tell us your understanding of the millennial reign. With scriptural reference , and lets move foreward.

Joagbaje:

He wasnt teaching the law.he was teaching the principles of the kingdom. You will notice . Jesus always emphasize " the kingdom is like"
JOAGBAJE YOU HAVE A WAY WITH WORDS BUT LETS STAY FOCUSED. FROM MY OWN REASONING THE WORD PRINCIPLE AND LAW ARE THE SAME THING

PRINCIPLE OF SOUND MEANS LAW GUIDING SOUND GET IT?




The passage talks about the anti christ .

JOAGBAJE THE ANTICHRIST HATES THE LAWS OF GOD HENCE THE TERM LAWLESS MAN. PLEASE NOTE NOT THE LAWS OF ADEFARASI OR OLUKOYA BUT THE LAWS OF THE MOST HIGH GOD. AND YOU ARE EXHIBITING THE SAME TRAITS.
JOAGBAJE WHAT COULD BE MORE CARNAL THAN ASSUMING THAT GOD DID NOT MEAN WHAT HE SAID, AND THEN TRYING TO NULLIFY HIS WORD WITH THE DOCTRINE OF MEN
AND WHAT COULD BE MORE SPIRITUAL THAN FAITH, TAKING GOD AT HIS WORD

Point of correction. Jesus was not son of Joseph

JOAGBAJE SO THE BIBLE LIES? JHN 1:45 PHILIP FINDETH NATHANAEL, AND SAITH UNTO HIM, WE HAVE FOUND HIM, OF WHOM MOSES IN THE LAW, AND THE PROPHETS, DID WRITE, JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE SON OF JOSEPH.
SO GENETICALLY YOU SAY YASHUA HAS NO Y CHROMOSOME? THIS SOUNDS LIKE AN ALIEN FROM OUT OF SPACE ALTHOUGH I HAVE NEVER MET ONE.
IF THIS WERE TRUE THEN WE WOULD ALL BE LOST FOR WE SEE FROM SCRITURE THAT THE PROMISES WERE MADE UNTO DAVID
ACT 2:30 THEREFORE BEING A PROPHET, AND KNOWING THAT GOD HAD SWORN WITH AN OATH TO HIM, THAT OF THE FRUIT OF HIS LOINS, ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, HE WOULD RAISE UP CHRIST TO SIT ON HIS THRONE; WITHOUT A Y CHROMOSOME THIS PROPHECY IS ANNULLED YASHUA WOULD HAVE NO CONNECTION TO DAVID OR EVEN ADAM HENCE THE TERM ALIEN.
LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE MITHRAISM IS FAR OLDER THAN CHRISTIANITY AND THERE ALSO YOU HAVE THE DEMON CONCEPT OF SON BORN WITH MOTHER BUT FATHERLESS
JUST LIKE ASHTORETH AND BAAL IN SHORT IN MOST PAGAN RELIGIONS IT IS SO, VIRGIN BIRTH IS NOT NEW TO MANKIND.



There is sin in the world from the fall of Adam until the millennium reign

IF YOU ARE CORRECT THEN THERE MUST ALSO BE LAWS TO COUNTERACT THIS SIN LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE WRITTEN YOUR OWN LAWS MAY THE MOST HIGH HELP YOU.

Righteousness come by faith not from the law

I SAID INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTOUSNESS WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ALL SHARING HERE, THE WORD ABI?



Youre theone saying so . The lawless man is going to be the antichrist.

JOAGBAJE YOU ARE CORRECT BUT REMEMBER THE LAWLESS MAN HAS MORE FOLLOWERS THAN CHRIST NOW AS WE SEE IT, FOR HE IS THE RULER OF THIS WORLD (POLITICAL POWER).
IF HE IS INDEED LAWLESS THEN WHAT ABOUT HIS CHILDREN WILL THEY NOT ALSO BE AGAINST THE LAWS OF THE MOST HIGH?


What is the doctrine of men and what is the instruction of the most high
DOCTRINE OF MEN WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE SUNDAY WORSHIP, DELIVERANCE.... IN OTHER WORDS DOING WHAT THE PASTORS SAY AND FORGETTING CHRISTS WORDS
INSTRUCTIONS OF THE MOST HIGH ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE BIBLE I WOULD ADVISE YOU READ DEUTRONOMY AGAIN AS A REMINDER




Jesus will reign over the earth for 1,000 yrs. with his saints . but What is the point of your question?

GOOD. LIKE YOU SAID IF HE IS TO REIGN 1000YRS AND WE HAVE SEEN FROM SCRIPTURE THAT THE RULE OR GOVERNMENT WILL BE BASED ON OLD TESTAMENT LAW THEN WHY ARE YOU NOT LIVING LIKE AN ISREALITE NOW
DID YOU NOT HEAR IT WAS SAID OF THE MASTER
MAT 7:23 AND THEN WILL I PROFESS UNTO THEM, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.
JOAGBAJE IF YOU LIVE LFE LIKE YASHUA LIVED HIS THEN SURELY IF HE PASSES YOU ON THE ROAD YOU WILL KNOW HIS FACE


PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!


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MostHigh:

PLS TELL US YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MILLENNIAL REIGN. WITH SCRIPTURAL REFERENCE , AND LETS MOVE FOREWARD.

THE TEMPLE OF THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM IS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL IN EZEKIEL CHAPTERS 40-44. ALTHOUGH WE WILL NOT GO INTO THE DETAILS HERE, WE WILL MENTION A FEW KEY POINTS. THE GLORY OF THE LORD WILL FILL THE TEMPLE (EZEKIEL 43:5). THE LAW GIVEN BY GOD THROUGH MOSES WILL STILL BE KEPT INCLUDING THE SACRIFICES (EZEKIEL 43:19-27). THE LEVITES WILL STILL MINISTER IN THE TEMPLE (EZEKIEL 44:9-11). THE LAWS AND STATUTES DELIVERED BY MOSES WILL BE OBEYED (EZEKIEL 44:24). EZEKIEL 44:25 AND 31 SHOW FURTHER EVIDENCE THAT SOME DEATH OF PEOPLE AND ANIMALS CAN AND WILL OCCUR IN THE KINGDOM. THE SABBATHS AND FEASTS OF THE ISRAEL WILL STILL BE KEPT INCLUDING THE PASSOVER, THE FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD (EZEKIEL 45:21), AND THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES (EZEKIEL 45:25). IT WILL BE WELL KNOWN BY ALL THAT JESUS CHRIST GAVE HIS LIFE AS THE PERFECT SACRIFICE FOR ALL MANKIND. NONE-THE-LESS, THE PROPHECY REVEALS THAT THE SACRIFICES WILL STILL BE KEPT AND THE LAW OF MOSES STRICTLY FOLLOWED.


“AND YE SHALL BE UNTO ME A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS, AND AN HOLY NATION...” (EX. 19: 6). THIS IS THE FIRST REFERENCE TO THE KINGDOM AS IT IS RELATED TO GOD

"THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS; IT SHALL YET COME TO PASS, THAT THERE SHALL COME PEOPLE, AND THE INHABITANTS OF MANY CITIES: AND THE INHABITANTS OF ONE CITY SHALL GO TO ANOTHER, SAYING, LET US GO SPEEDILY TO PRAY BEFORE THE LORD, AND TO SEEK THE LORD OF HOSTS: I WILL GO ALSO. YEA, MANY PEOPLE AND STRONG NATIONS SHALL COME TO SEEK THE LORD OF HOSTS IN JERUSALEM, AND TO PRAY BEFORE THE LORD. THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS; IN THOSE DAYS IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT TEN MEN SHALL TAKE HOLD OUT OF ALL LANGUAGES OF THE NATIONS, EVEN SHALL TAKE HOLD OF THE SKIRT OF HIM THAT IS A (JEW), SAYING, WE WILL GO WITH YOU: FOR WE HAVE HEARD THAT GOD IS WITH YOU" (ZECHARIAH 8:20-23). PLS NOTE THE WORD JEW HERE



JEREMIAH 31:33-34
33 "BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR MINDS, AND WRITE IT ON THEIR HEARTS; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. 34 "NO MORE SHALL EVERY MAN TEACH HIS NEIGHBOR, AND EVERY MAN HIS BROTHER, SAYING, 'KNOW THE LORD,' FOR THEY ALL SHALL KNOW ME, FROM THE LEAST OF THEM TO THE GREATEST OF THEM, SAYS THE LORD. FOR I WILL FORGIVE THEIR INIQUITY, AND THEIR SIN I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." PLEASE NOTE THE WORD LAW HERE


GOD HAS MADE PROVISION FOR THE ELECT GENTILES BY GRAFTING THEM WITH PRECEDING BELIEVERS (ROM. 11).

ALTHOUGH GOD ALLOWED ISRAEL TO CHOOSE THEIR KING, GOD SAFEGUARDED THE PRINCIPLE OF KINGSHIP IN A MONARCHICAL GOVERNMENT UNDER KING DAVID (DEUT. 17: 14-20). THE KING WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE TO GOD, AND THE PEOPLE WERE NO LESS RESPONSIBLE THAN THEIR KING.

ISAIAH ALSO SAYS, ISAIAH 56:7 “EVEN THEM I WILL BRING TO MY HOLY MOUNTAIN, AND MAKE THEM JOYFUL IN MY HOUSE OF PRAYER. THEIR BURNT OFFERINGS AND THEIR SACRIFICES WILL BE ACCEPTED ON MY ALTAR; FOR MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL NATIONS."

ISA 66:23 "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS THAT FROM ONE NEW MOON TO ANOTHER, AND FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER, ALL FLESH SHALL COME TO WORSHIP BEFORE ME," SAYS THE LORD. ISA. 66:23 TEACHES THAT WE WILL KEEP THE SABBATH, IT ALSO TEACHES WE WILL KEEP THE NEW MOON FESTIVAL! THIS IS ON EARTH IN THE MILLENNIUM PERIOD- NOT IN HEAVEN."

THE NEW MOON FESTIVALS, THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES, AND THE SABBATHS, WERE SET TIMES AMONG THE HEBREWS (NOT GENTILES) FOR THE WORSHIP OF GOD; IN THE MILLENNIUM THESE WILL BE USED AS THE REMINDERS FOR THE ASSEMBLY OF WORSHIP AS GOD WILL BE CELEBRATED IN ALL NATIONS.

PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!!

MostHigh:
THE TEMPLE OF THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM IS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL IN EZEKIEL CHAPTERS 40-44. ALTHOUGH WE WILL NOT GO INTO THE DETAILS HERE, WE WILL MENTION A FEW KEY POINTS. THE GLORY OF THE LORD WILL FILL THE TEMPLE (EZEKIEL 43:5). THE LAW GIVEN BY GOD THROUGH MOSES WILL STILL BE KEPT INCLUDING THE SACRIFICES (EZEKIEL 43:19-27). THE LEVITES WILL STILL MINISTER IN THE TEMPLE

truthislight: My friend, what really is your interest? are you a Jew?

You have said a lot of things, but it seems you are trying to bend scriptures to suit a certain doctrin that is not supported by the (bible) new convanant.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO OBJECTIFY ME AS CHRISTIAN,JEW.... ARE WE ALL NOT CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH GOD?
BY OBJECTIFYING ME DO YOU THINK YOU WILL PERCIEVE BETTER OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A WAY TO PERSECUTE ME THE MORE
ALL WORDS AND VERSES I HAVE QUOTED ARE FROM OR POINT TO CHRIST SO YOU CAN IMMIDIATLY SEE MY INCLINATION YASHUA THE SON OF JOSEPH IS MY MASTER THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY.

1. FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS MADE SUCH ACCUSATIONS (BENDING OF SCRIPTURES) YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED VERY LITTLE TO PROVE YOUR CASE, PREADVENTURE YOU ARE ILL EQUIPED.
2. ALL WORDS SPOKEN HERE ARE STRAIGHT FROM THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE NO DOCTRINE OF MY OWN.
3. IT IS ONLY THE SATANISTS THAT SAY THERE IS AN OLD GOD (HENCE THE PHRASE OLD AND NEW COVENENT OR TESTAMENT)THE BIBLE IS ONE COMPLETE WORK FULL OF EDIFICATION
4. THE NEW COVENANT ONLY CONFIRMS ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID IN THE TORAH (I HAVE NOT COME TO DESTROY BUT TO FUFILL) ARE YOU FUFILLING?


what is this below? :



please, dont contradict the bible.

(Revelation 20:4).
"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." (Revelation 20:4).

"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:6).
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This ^^^ are the arrangement and those to serve as priest in the new kingdom.


The next point is that this people are with christ.

Just dont project what the bible does not say.

Peace.

MostHigh:

Truthislight REGARDING YOUR REFERENCE TO THE PRIESTS OF THE FUTURE KINGDOM.
1. YOU CANNOT JUST SAY YOU ARE A PRIEST PROPHET KING WITHOUT ORDINANCES
2. VISIBLY WE CAN SEE ONLY 2 PRIESTHOODS IN THE BIBLE LEVITE AND NAZARITE, BOTH ARE BOUND BY THE LAWS OF THE MOST HIGH AND BOTH ARE VISIBLY LAWFULL IN THE MILLENIAL KINGDOM
3. LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE CREATED IN YOU OWN MIND A PRIESTHOOD THAT IS ALIEN TO ISREAL ABI HAVE YOU NOT READ THAT ISREAL IS TO BE REBORN?

SO WHICH PRIESTHOOD DO YOU BELONG TO AND WHAT ARE THE ORDINANCES OF THIS YOUR PRIESTHOOD?
ABI UNA NO GET ORDINANCE?
OR YOU ARE WAITING FOR HIS RETURN BEFORE YOU START TO LEARN THE ROPES? OR TO PUT IT BETTER LIVE RIGHT IF NA SO DEN YOU GO MISS ROAD O.

THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU RESPOND AND PLS USE THE WORDS OF YASHUA TO CONVICT.

PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!

MostHigh:
THE WAY OF LIFE OF YASHUA SON OF JOSEPH, !!

truthislight:

think what?

You are twisting the scriptures, i have shown you the arrangement of the almighty for the future and you want me to "think and ordinance" what?

Cant you show me why what i have shown you from the scripture is wrong?

Keep deceiving yourself that Israelite levite will be the priest in God's kingdom when i have shown you what Yahweh's plans are.

MostHigh:

TRUTHISLIGHT YOU ARE THE DECIVER.
WHY DO YOU NEED ANYBODY TO PROVE YOU WRONG IF TRULY YOU ARE RIGHT?
THIS IS NOT A DEBATING SOCIETY BUT A FORUM TO LEARN AND WE ARE ALL LEARNING.

I AM NOT HERE TO DECIVE ANYONE CAN YOU NOT READ? MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOURSELF A BIBLE DICTIONARY FOR MORE REFERENCING.
ALL THE VERSES ABOUT THE MILLENIAL TEMPLE AND SERVICE ARE TRUTH, THE ISRELITE LEVITE NAZARITE WILL ALL BE THERE IN THE FUTURE KINGDOM WHY ARE YOU RESISTING.

LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN IDEAS AND CONCEPT ABOUT THE MILLENIAL PRIESTHOOD PLS CAN YOU SHARE THIS WITH US? THE NATURE OF THIS PRIESTHOOD SERIOUSLY!!!

IS THE BIBLE LYING? I HAVE GIVEN REFERENCES JUST AS JOAGBAJE REQUESTED AND HERE YOU ARE CALLING ME A DECIVER, YOU ARE THE DECIEVER FOR NOT MAKING AN EFFORT TO EDIFY RATHER YOU WANT TO CALL PEOPLE NAMES NOW I KNOW WHO YOU SERVE.

SADLY YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN ME ANYTHING BUT IGNORANCE IF YOU QUOTE A VERSE AND FAIL TO EXPANSIATE HOW DO YOU EXPECT OTHERS TO LEARN?
YOU JUST WANT A FIGHT ISNT IT? THATS WHAT YOU ARE USED TO.

I AM NOT TWISTING SCRIPTURES AND I AM NOT HERE TO PROVE ANYBODY WRONG LEAST OF ALL YOU. IS THE TRUTH NOT THE LIGHT

AS A MATTER OF FACT I AGREE WITH THE VERSE YOU QUOTED COMPLETELY BUT BY THE WORDS OF YOUR MOUTH YOU ARE JUDGED.

TRUTHISLIGHT THIS (ARRANGEMENT FOR THE FUTURE) YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT ARBITRARY, THERE ARE LAID DOWN RULES FOR ALL PRIESTHOOD EVEN IFA PRIEST HAVE ORDINANCES.

NOW ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE PRIESTHOOD OF MELCHIZEDEK WHICH IS THE PRESENT AND FUTURE PRIESTHOOD HAS NO ORDINANCES GUIDING THEM?

IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE CHRIST HAS COME AND REVEALED ALL THAT IS NECESSARY BY HIS EXEMPLARY WAY OF LIFE. (I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE)

TRUTHISLIGHT ARE YOU A PRIEST AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK? IF NOT YOU DON MISS ROAD, NO BE ME TALK AM READ YOUR BIBLE I AM ONLY A MESSENGER OF THE TRUTH.
THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU SAY ARE WITH CHRIST IN THE FUTURE KINGDOM ALL BELONG TO THIS ORDER AS WE CAN SEE FROM THE VERSE BELOW

Hbr 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. PLS NOTE THE WORD ORDER HERE.

TRUTHISLIGHT EVERY ORDER HAS ORDINANCES YOU ARE JUST DISPLAYING IGNORANCE BY IGNORING THIS FACT.

YOU WANT TO BE A PRIEST BY WISHFULL THINKING? I NEVER SEE B4.
EVEN CHRIST OUR MASTER TOOK VOWS AND OATHS AND HERE YOU ARE SAYING I SHOULD NOT ASK YOU WHAT OATHS YOU ARE PREPARED TO MAKE TO THE MOST HIGH

TRUTHISLIGHT YOU HAVE TURNED HOLINESS AND RIGHTOUSENESS TO MERE CEREMONY!! THE MOST HIGH HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL.



PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!

MostHigh:
Hbr 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. PLS NOTE THE WORD ORDER HERE.

truthislight:

I dont know why you are knocking your head for this:



is the levitical priest hood in the "order of melchizedech"?
*smh*

"And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him. If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?.


For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (Hebrews 7:8-12).

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:4-6).


The error is yours not mine.

You are angry that your error is pointed out.

Enjoy!

MostHigh:

TRUTHISLIGHT PRESUMPTION IS A SIN WHY PRESUME I AM ANGRY?

TRUTHISLIGHT IT IS CLEAR YOU ARE ILL EQUIPED FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.


PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!

truthislight:

thank you.