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Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by HIV1: 8:06am On Jan 12, 2013 |
What has Adam done ? He and eve ate ordinary apple and you keep talking about the two as if many people had not done much worse. As far as I am concerned the concept called original sin is an hypothesis of the weak people to put blames of their wrong doings on the shoulder of Adam and Eve. Your sin is your sin and you will be held accountable for it on the day of judgement. People even go the extent of claiming that a newly born baby has sinned. What does a newly born baby know. If you inherit Adam sin then nothing stopping you from inheriting that your grandfather that did juju money ....and many of your ancestors Oduduwa, Lamurudu ...and Oranmiyan. The thruth is that no sin is inherited and no blood can wash sin away from anybody. Repent and do the right thing |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 12:58pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
HIV1: What has Adam done ? He and eve ate ordinary apple and you keep talking about the two as if many people had not done much worse. As far as I am concerned the concept called original sin is an hypothesis of the weak people to put blames of their wrong doings on the shoulder of Adam and Eve. Your sin is your sin and you will be held accountable for it on the day of judgement.THE APPLE IS SYMBOLIC FOR SPIRITUAL FORNICATION. IT WAS NOT A PHYSICAL APPLE. AND A NEW BORN BABY IS A SINNER SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SPIRIT IN THAT BABY IS NOT A NEW BORN SPIRIT. THAT IS A REINCARNATION STATEMENT. WE ARE BORN IN SIN IS A REINCARNATION STATEMENT. THE BABY WAS A SINNER IN PAST LIFE. AS SUCH WE ARE ALL BORN SINNERS. ONLY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT BORN SINNERS ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE EVER CREATED CUZ THEY HAD NO PAST LIFE. |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 2:01pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: @obadiah777 Why didn't you correct poster that it wasnt an apple tree they ate from. Hmm? Second, why not ask the poster to try create a word document off a corrupted Normal.dot file to learn about default inherent attributes passed on 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 2:06pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
moredendisc:I CORRECTED HIM ALREADY, I THINK |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 2:57pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: @obadiah777 Erm, I think it was more of an explanation you gave than a correction Did not read you discouraging poster from calling the fruit an apple Eating the fruit with satan, was symbolic of spiritual adultery As a standard, it takes 3 to make Love in Heaven; - The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit By the same token, normally it takes 3 to make love on earth; - The man-husband, the woman-wife and God The first love made on earth with Adam and Eve was abnormal and questionable. It had a question of dubious morality ... Eve called the son, Cain, "I have the or a man" She called the second following son, Abel, moisture meaning literally shortlived, not to be reckon with, not the man etc . . . |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 3:07pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
moredendisc:SO YOU SUPPORT THE TRINITY DOCTRINE THEN ? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 3:24pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: @obadiah777 Facepalm, SMH. Not you too Brah What's Trinity got to do with this now. Beside, it's not as if God can be compartmentalised. Argh. I tire for you, frosbel et al guys over this trinity brouhaha If you may know, I support God is ∞-person(s) So far, we've known the Father, Son and Spirit, side of Him Happy? Same token just as with the different combination of obadiah777, the son of Daddy obadiah777; obadiah777; the daddy of little obadiah777, obadiah777; the poster dropping posts on NL etc etc which/that forms who you are. The limitation with you or how God is different from you is Omnipresence and Simultaneous occurrence You, obadiah777 or anyone for that matter, can't be at two places or more than one place at the same time, like God can. That is, a bummer. Ouch. |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by AtheistD(m): 3:29pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
Xtians and their esoteric nonsense Why not just keep it simple. We all know the adam story is a lie. The "mythological" claims are just to save face. |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
moredendisc:INTERESTING HOWEVER I AM TRYING TO SIFT THROUGH YOUR POST TO GET TO THE MEAT. I DONT SEEM TO KNOW WHAT THE DEBATE IS ABOUT. ARE YOU SAYING THAT I SHOULD HAVE TOLD DUDE THAT ADAM AND EVE SPIRITUALLY FORNICATED ? OR ARE YOU SAYING I DID NOT BREAK IT DOWN ENOUGH ? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by ATMC(f): 4:07pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: THE APPLE IS SYMBOLIC FOR SPIRITUAL FORNICATION. IT WAS NOT A PHYSICAL APPLE. AND A NEW BORN BABY IS A SINNER SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SPIRIT IN THAT BABY IS NOT A NEW BORN SPIRIT. THAT IS A REINCARNATION STATEMENT. WE ARE BORN IN SIN IS A REINCARNATION STATEMENT. THE BABY WAS A SINNER IN PAST LIFE. AS SUCH WE ARE ALL BORN SINNERS. ONLY PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT BORN SINNERS ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE EVER CREATED CUZ THEY HAD NO PAST LIFE.are you saying adam n eve had sex is d depiction of d apple they supposedly ate? But d bible said eve ate it first, does it mean she had sex with herself? If u say she concieved it first then how do u explain what d bible said dt he dt overcomes will eat of dt tree? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
ATMC: are you saying adam n eve had sex is d depiction of d apple they supposedly ate? But d bible said eve ate it first, does it mean she had sex with herself? If u say she concieved it first then how do u explain what d bible said dt he dt overcomes will eat of dt tree?ADAM AND EVES SEX-UALITY DOES NOT COME INTO THIS AT ALL. THAT IS MANS VAIN OPINION. 'SPIRITUAL FORNICATION' IS NOTHING TO DO WITH S-EX. IT MEANS YOU ARE DABBLING IN OTHER DOCTRINES AND PHILOSOPHIES. THEY WERE FORNICATING WITH IDOLS. FORNICATING DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN SE-X. IT JUST MEANS 'PARTAKING OF SOMETHING'. SO EVE GOT TEMPTED BY ONE OF THE OTHER GUYS INTO DABBLING IN IDOLATRY AND THEN SHE CONVINCED ADAM ( THE LEADER ) TO GET INVOLVED TOO. SEE HOW THE LORD OPERATES IS THIS, HE USES ONE TO GET TO MANY. SO WHILE ALL THE ADAMITES WERE CREATED WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE MAIN GUY ( HEAD-ADAM ) AND EVE WERE CREATED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND IT WAS THEIR JOB TO SPIRITUALLY CIVILIZE THE REST. ADAM IS NOT A MANS NAME. IT IS A NATION OF PEOPLE. ADAM IS JUST A DESCRIPTION OF HOW THEY ARE FORMED. IT IS FROM THE HEBREW ADAMAH WHICH MEANS 'FORMED FROM THE GROUND' CAN YOU QUOTE THE VERSE WHERE YOU SAY IT SAYS HE THAT OVERCOMES SHALL EAT OF THAT TREE ? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
THE BIBLE IS NOT A HISTORY OF A PERSONS FAMILY. IT IS THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. DIFFERENT NATIONS OF PEOPLE ARE GIVEN SINGLE PEOPLES NAMES AND THIS WAY THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD CAN BE WRITTEN EASILY. HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME PROMINENT PEOPLES NAMES LIKE NIMROD, NEBUCCHADNEZER, AND THE PROPHETS ETC ETC HOWEVER NATIONS ARE NAMED AS MEN ISHMAEL-ARABS ESAU-EUROPEANS OR ANCIENT ROMANS JACOB-NEGROS AMMON-JAPANESE MOAB-CHINESE ADAM-FIRST NATION OF PEOPLE FORMED JUST AS COUNTRIES ARE REFEREED TO AS 'HORNS'. AND COUNTRIES ARE ALSO REFERRED TO AS 'MOUNTAIN' AND EMPIRES AND KINGDOMS ARE CALLED BEASTS. <<<< ALL THIS IS DONE SO AS TO WRITE THE HISTORY OF THE WHOLE WORLD WITHOUT HAVING TO WRITE 1 MILLION PAGES. IF YOU CONDENSE EACH NATIONS INTO SINGLE PEOPLE, THEN YOU CAN PULL OFF THE WHOLE THING IN 1000 PAGES AS OPPOSED TO 1 MILLION PAGES |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
GENESIS 5 VS 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. <<<< TELLS YOU RIGHT HERE HE CALLED THE NATION OF PEOPLE HE CREATED ADAM. GOD SPECIFICALLY TELLS YOU HERE THAT ADAM IS NOT A MANS NAME BUT A NATION OF PEOPLE |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 5:17pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: ATMC: are you saying adam n eve had sex is d depiction of d apple they supposedly ate? @obadiah777 I am saying correct the basic, it was a fruit not an apple See, ATMC too, is using the noun, apple, for the fruit; a fruit which incidentally has/had no name or name deliberately not mentioned By the way, the bible is not only or per se about the history of mankind but also is, a book about the mind of God; God's intricate mind. 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by PAGAN9JA(m): 5:18pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
they dont exist. we are descended from ape-like ancestors. |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 5:20pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: @PAGAN 9JA . . . and which grace did the ape-like ancestors fall down from? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
moredendisc:YOU SIR MOREDENDISC ARE VERY CORRECT WHEN YOU SAY THE BIBLE IS ALSO ABOUT THE INTRICATE MIND OF GOD. YOU ARE CORRECT. YOU ARE ALSO CORRECT ABOUT THE FRUIT AS OPPOSED TO APPLE. GENESIS 3 VS 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE MESSAGE THOUGH. I WONDER WHO CAME UP WITH THE APPLE ? 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA:THIS HEATHEN *SMH* 3 Likes |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 5:57pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: @obadiah777 Aye, it doesn't change the message at all I am surprised you didn't accuse me of being pedantic You are a honorable man. It just grates me when liberty is taken for granted, to say, the fruit eaten was an apple. It is like when people say "God helps those that help themselves" like it is a bible quote or verse 2 Likes |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by sylve11: 6:08pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
Interesting thread! @ obidiah, I'd like to know u better. 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
moredendisc:I AINT MAD AT YOU BRAH. WHEN IT COMES TO THE SCRIPTURES YOU HAVE TO BE PEDANTIC. SO YOU ARE WELL WITHIN BOUNDS. IN FACT YOU ARE THE HONORABLE MAN FOR TAKING A STANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT I CORRECTED MYSELF. KUDOS TO YOU BRAH 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 6:21pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
sylve11: Interesting thread!I AINT NOTHING SPECIAL LOL. TRUST ME. WHAT MEDIUM ARE YOU SUGGESTING ? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by sylve11: 6:42pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: I AINT NOTHING SPECIAL LOL. TRUST ME. WHAT MEDIUM ARE YOU SUGGESTING ? but I think u have something to tell me. . .I have been looking for that for some time. Facebook, not my thing. Another medium pls. Just state it here and I shall follow follow. 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 7:18pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
sylve11: obadiah777: sylve11: Well if it is a Medium of Endor, give it a wide berth and don't follow |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by HIV1: 8:53pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
You have been digressing, if eating fruit by Adam is a sin and on the basis that all men inherited sins from Adam, what about sins committed by your forefathers that are not Adam? Did you inherit those sins also? 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
sylve11:WELL I HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL. THATS FOR SURE LOL. IT AINT ABOUT ME THOUGH. ITS PROPHESIES. SO MANY THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. IT IS CRAZY TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN. AMERICA HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO START A WAR WITH IRAN BECAUSE IRAN HAS REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE DOLLAR AS EXCHANGE FOR THEIR OIL. AND THIS HAS TRIGGERED A MUTINY OF NATIONS ALL BACKED BY CHINA AND RUSSIA. AND WITHOUT THE OIL BEING SOLD IN DOLLARS, AMERICA WILL QUICKLY DISINTEGRATE INTO ANARCHY AND POVERTY. SO THEY HAVE TO START THIS WAR REAL SOON. AND YET THIS WAR IS WHAT WILL LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE AND THE SECOND COMING. ARMAGEDDON. ITS EXCITING YET CRAZY TIMES CHIEF. 2 Likes |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
moredendisc:NEVER THAT CHIEF. NO SORCERY OVER HERE LOLZ 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 9:29pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
HIV1: You have been digressing, @HIV1 Eating the fruit by Adam was an amoral act, which was a transgression of a "Thou shall not" expressly ordered divine law When a template or prototype is compromised, weakened, damaged or corrupted, the production line ends up with flawed products What you on about with " . . . your forefathers that are not Adam? . . . " Huh? Adam is the numero uno. He is the ancestor, the first in rank, there are no forefathers except for Adam. However indulging your whim, if there were forefathers, Well, there is no link between these "forefathers" and Adam, because Adam was a start over. If you like, say, Adam was a rehash with new ideas. OK? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by Nobody: 9:29pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
HIV1: You have been digressing, if eating fruit by Adam is a sin and on the basis that all men inherited sins from Adam, what about sins committed by your forefathers that are not Adam? Did you inherit those sins also?DID YOU EVEN BOTHER TO READ AND PONDER ON ALL THE POSTS ? OR ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO AGREE WITH YOU ? . IT WAS NOT PHYSICAL FRUIT. I DONT THINK THE LORD IS AS PETTY AS TO HAVE A GRUDGE BECAUSE YOU ATE FRUIT. AND NEITHER WILL HE STOP YOU FROM EATING FRUIT THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU. THE BIBLE IS NOT A BOOK TO BE READ LITERALLY. AND ALL YOUR FOREFATHERS ARE ADAM ( ADAM IS NOT A PERSONS NAME ). AND YOU DO NOT INHERIT ANOTHER PERSONS SINS. YOU ARE YOUR FOREFATHERS IN THE REINCARNATION. YOU CARRY YOUR SIN OVER FROM PAST-LIFE. AS SUCH YOU ARE BORN A SINNER. ONLY PEOPLE NOT BORN INTO SIN WERE THE FIRST GENERATION OF ADAM CREATED BECAUSE THEY HAD NO PAST LIVES. HOWEVER THAT IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO AND WE HAVE ALL COME INTO THE EARTH SEVERAL TIMES AFTER THAT. AS SUCH WE WILL ALWAYS BE BORN AS SINNERS BECAUSE OUR SPIRIT HAS SIN LOGGED INTO IT FROM PREVIOUS LIFE. SO A 1 DAY OLD BABY COULD BE A MURDERING PSYCHOTIC DEMON FROM PAST LIFE 2 Likes |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by moredendisc: 9:35pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: @obadiah777 The baton's in your hand, don't drop it Good luck 1 Like |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by ATMC(f): 9:49pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
obadiah777: I AINT NOTHING SPECIAL LOL. TRUST ME. WHAT MEDIUM ARE YOU SUGGESTING ?y do u tell someone to trust u when d bible says trust no man? |
Re: Leave Adam And Eve Alone! by edogho(m): 11:01pm On Jan 12, 2013 |
Shakes head in pity. Sighs. Hisses. Op and posters na wa 4 una o. Wherever una got such ideas from. |
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