frosbel:


ssshh, go and threaten the gullible.

No one attributed his acts to that of the devil, we are pointing out the fraud perpetuated by many so called MOG in the name of GOD while preaching falsehoods, fleecing the sheep and using the fear of an ambiguous hell to shut them up.

We are all brethren, Adeboye is no different in the eyes of GOD to a 2 month old born again Christian. They are EQUAL , one is not higher than the other !!!

It is people like you who have lifted ordinary MEN to the same position as GOD. SMH.

Besides what does this nonsense mean :
"In other words, a man's tongue can sentence him to the lake of fire without even waiting for the Great White Throne Judgement."

Where is this in the bible ??

m.k.o2005:

You may think you are dead right just like the Scribes and the pharisees thought when they said Jesus was a fraud ! That HE uses the powers of the devil and Spirit of Beelzebub to do miracles. Now see you again thinking that the powers and wisdom of the Holy spirit in some of these true men of God are demonic and that in fact it's scam.Same thing Jesus warned us against so as not to grieve the holy spirit.To you here on NL you think u are right when you ascribe the wisdom of God and powers of the holy spirit to deceit,fraud and devilish ! May God help us all.Why not leave the things you do not understand to be ! They are there for you to study in ur bible with the guidance of the Holy spirit but the devil never allows people to study for life rather he(devil)allows people to read the word for argument sake !
God bless us

m.k.o2005:

Frosbel,you always claim that you know the word of God and you do not know where the great white throne is in the bible ? It's becos you read the word of God to get things to attack God and HIS servants. See below where the pst.picked up the phrase;Great white throne Judgement:
'' Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire''.-Revelation 20:11-15
The above is the Judgement called the great white throne Judgement. May God help u and help me also to make heaven when the trumpet shall sound
God help us

frosbel:

Hmm, no one said there is no white throne judgement, of course there is.

It seems you did not get my point which I repeat below :

Besides what does this nonsense mean :
"In other words, a man's tongue can sentence him to the lake of fire without even waiting for the Great White Throne Judgement."

In other words, how can you say someone is sentenced to the lake of fire before the white thrown judgement, where is that in the bible ??

m.k.o2005:

Frosbel my christian brother ! I don't want to think that the wisdom i know too well that you have is just a mere worldly wisdom ! Even the worldly or carnally minded people reason right to an extent ! Or could it be that you just want to appear or sound sarcastic that you want to put up here on NL that you do not know that what the above statement from that pst.is that you get judged before the judgement day ! This pastor here is telling you and my very self that if Christ tarries and HE is to come tomorrow for the white throne Judgement according to Revelation 20:11-15,that if we do not bridle our tongues,we could be condemned today becos of the things we say that we do not even undestand before the very tomorrow that christ is to come !Frosbel,i love you with the love of God and i believe we can both make heaven by the Grace of The Almighty God.
May God help us

musKeeto:
Does this include God? Miracles whether fake or not? Divisive matters like seed faith and tithes?

So what's the right action for Christians to take when they see wrong committed by their leaders? Are their leaders only accountable to God?

frosbel:


How dare you compare Jesus to these mere MEN.

All Christians are brethren, none of us is higher than the other in position or status.

obithegreat: GOD is not telling you to keep mum when you see evil, but to PRAY FOR Your LEADERS! Not talking(condemning) about things you don't understand will keep you out of troubles for life! That a man didn't follow a particular step in doing something, doesn't mean that the step he took may b wrong! Besides, as at the time of taking the decision, since you weren't there with him, how would you know he made or said the wrong thing! Now, if you feel he is wrong, pray and ask God! Remember, HE asked us to test every spirit to know whether they are from HIM or not!

frosbel:

I am not an expert in bible knowledge , nobody is, it is the Holy Spirit who gives revelation.

No one is condemned before the white throne judgement except they refuse to repent.

musKeeto:
Bro, you need to understand that power corrupts. Even the Bible tells Christians what happened to Lucifer, based on the little power given to him. The moment Christians place a 'fellow brother' in Christ, for despite the titles, that's how 'GOD' looks upon y'all, you give room for wolves in sheep clothing.

In my opinion, those upon whom the mantle rests, should strive to be as transparent and open as possible.

My opinion:

No matter the views one has regarding tithes for example, wouldn't it be right for the church to show an example in accountablility by publishing regular information about the church finances?

lagerwhenindoubt: I don't know about Adeboye's and his instruction on this case but i know his 2013 prophecies are lame and sound illiterate, it cannot be from the Holy Spirit or God even.

Kamanda: No doubt about it Nani's card is controversial.

m.k.o2005:

Bro,pls try to study ur bible if you are a 'christian' ! Blasphemy of the holy spirit isn't permanently rejecting Jesus. Please see below what blasphemy of the holy spirit realy is :
Please note that if you continuously reject Jesus you can still be forgiven becos it is the holy spirit that will convict you and bring you to repentance !See what Jesus is saying to those who blaspheme HIM: ''And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him;''-Mathew 12:32

The unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an act
of resistance which belittles the Holy Spirit so grievously that he withdraws for ever
with his convicting power so that we are never able to repent and be forgiven.
To explain the above,let us consider the scripture and see what God is saying through HIS son Jesus who left us with the HOLY SPIRIT to convict us of our sins and bring us to repentance !
See below what Christ is saying in Mark 3:29:
''but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."
If you look at the scripture above,you will see that Christ did not say if you blaspheme against God or HIM(Jesus)the son of God BUT HE said blaspheme against the holy spirit ! God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy spirit are one i.e 'EGG' It has got the shell,the egg white and the yoke ! It's three in one but they have their different roles aiming at achieving one goal ! Now since by the grace of God we have seen or already know that God the FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLLY SPIRIT IS ONE,let's just take a little highlight of their duties !
1.God the Father-HE has planned redemption
2.The son (Jesus has accomplished redemption. This wonderful redemption is outside ourselves and available to us if we repent of our sin
and turn back to Christ in faith !
3.But it is the unique and special role of the Holy Spirit to apply the Father's plan and the Son's accomplishment of it to our hearts !
From the above,we can see that the holy spirit plays the role of bringing both the father's plans and the son's accomplishment to our hearts !
Now,if we blaspheme the father which most of us do every now and then,there is still hope ! If we blaspheme the son,there may still be hope according to what Jesus says in the book of Mathew 12:32 ''And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come.''
From the above we have seen that even if you sin against Jesus,the son of man,you can still be forgiven !
The big question is ;'what is the sin against the holy spirit and why can't i be forgiven here on earth and after ?
One of the sins committed before this statement was uttered by Christ was that the scribes were heard by Jesus attributing the powers of the Holy spirit that works in him as the powers of Satan, saying that HE (Jesus)uses the powers of Bezeebul to cast out demons and do miracles as well! This is only but one according to Mark 3:29.
From the fact that we have established regarding the work or role of the Holy spirit''But it is the unique and special role of the Holy Spirit to apply the Father's plan and the Son's accomplishment of it to our hearts !''We can therefore say,if we[b] grieve[/b] the holy spirit who is suppose to bring conviction to our hearts therefore bringing about the plans of God the father regarding redemption through the death of HIS son Jesus,who then will do this Job if we grieve the holy spirit ?
Christ isn't saying that we can not be forgiven because we asked for forgiveness.HE is saying we can not ask for forgiveness becos the holy spirit has been grieved and left us with our own human conscience that is weak becos we sinned against the holy spirit! And if we do not ask for forgiveness becos we can't as a result of the fact that we have grieved the holy spirit and he has decided to let us be,how then can we be forgiven? Forgiveness can never be possible becos the one who is supposed to convict us and bring us to repentance for us to be forgiven has far long left us to ourselves !
My brother,i pray the holy spirit help u to understand the above. The bible can not contradict itself !
God help us all

Weselion:
How do you know you've blasphemed against the holy spirit

InvertedHammer:

When did blasphemy against the Holy Spirit become blasphemy against Adeboye?

Is Adeboye equating himself to the Holy Spirit? Isn't that in itself blasphemy?

A man cannot be part of the Trinity!

m.k.o2005:

Is ur intention just to speak ill of the man of God ? Read his comment first before you ascribe what he never said to him. See below what he is telling you:
''To avoid such a sin, be very careful about your comments especially on what you do not understand. You must not speak any malicious or slanderous word against the Holy Spirit or His acts. Never ascribe what the Spirit is doing to the devil. Stop lying against the Holy Spirit by declaring He said what He never did''
Let's bridle our tongue !
God help us

Mad Cow: HMMMMMMM!!!





Can Adeboye heal a Mad Cow without collecting offering?!

musKeeto:
Does this include God? Miracles whether fake or not? Divisive matters like seed faith and tithes?

So what's the right action for Christians to take when they see wrong committed by their leaders? Are their leaders only accountable to God?

musKeeto:
Does this include God? Miracles whether fake or not? Divisive matters like seed faith and tithes?

So what's the right action for Christians to take when they see wrong committed by their leaders? Are their leaders only accountable to God?

born2fuck: sexkill dey go hell fire, Thank God

Mad Cow: HMMMMMMM!!!





Can Adeboye heal a Mad Cow without collecting offering?!

InvertedHammer:

Well, the bible warned us of fake prophets who will even perform miracles in the name of Jesus as well.
So, the burden of proof is on Adeboye to prove that he is of God.

Any pastor that chooses life of extravagance and opulence in comparison to downtrodden followers is a conman.

We have "Man of God" and and we have "Man of god"

Which one is Adeboye?

bid4rich:

Please pray for him, dont let him go to hell, I beg. God will not be happy seeing him in hell of whom Jesus died

God bless you