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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 3:30am On Jun 22, 2013
ALTRUTH:

Mr I too know. Islam was forced on d yorubas by d fulani invaders.

Why are so many of you nlers so illiterate?

Islam entered Yorubaland before the North via the area we know as Lagos.

Hows the education system in Nigeria?
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 3:33am On Jun 22, 2013
gbaky_floor:

This post rigs of the average southern Nigerian ignorance.

Actually Hausas are the ones assimilated into Fulani religion of Islam. Take your time and research on Fulanis. Most of the religious bigots are Fulanis.

Do you also know that majority of Nigerian leaders from the North dead and alive are fulanis?

Next time you see a person from northern Nigeria, take your time to ask relevant questions.

Till then stop this ignorance.

Pagan you hear am?

Fulani religion of Islam.....

Why dont you two create another thread and knock yourselves out?

Awon eranko aboki
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by TonySpike: 3:33am On Jun 22, 2013
Katsumoto:

There is no foundation in that Lamurudu tale. It was originally told by Sultan Bello. The story goes that Sargon (also known as Nimrod to some) and his followers were expelled from Akkadia. The tale goes further that Sargon was Okanbi in Yoruba, Najib in Hausa, Qanda in Songhay. How can one person be the same in three different places? All these places have Islam in common. But there are arabian records of any escape by any rulers into Africa. Sargon himself dies in his Kingdom and was succeeded by his son Rimush.

Second, If Sargon/Nimrod escaped in 605 BC, how can be Oduduwa's son/father/etc. if Oduduwa existed in the 12th century? Did it take him 1800 years to reach Ife. It is time that folks that finding historically plausible evidence to support this Lamurudu tale.

Logical enough for Yoruba hardliners who insist to be satisfied on the flawed oral history. Yeah, Nimrod (or Sargon the Great) first appeared as a great king who first ruled mightily around 2200 BC. Sargon II was also named Nimrod because of his great exploits in Assyria, parallel to the first Nimrod. He however ruled around 722 BC. Sargon II is closer to the original Yoruba historical timeline though.

On a personal note, I believe the mythic Lamurudu story was only used to establish a line of kingship succession in Yoruba history. The whole Okanbi/Lamurudu and the seven ruling dynasties across Yorubaland, is a complete story, trying to validate kingship lines to Sargon II.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 3:34am On Jun 22, 2013
Im thirsty for more pics and facts please.......

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 4:12am On Jun 22, 2013
I Rep! Iseri Oloko
Omo Olu n la
Omo agbo dere
Omo yi wa di oloko ni ile iserimole
Omo pankere ide
Omo oko igu loko legi
... And so on...

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by DuduNegro: 6:15am On Jun 22, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:
Im thirsty for more pics and facts please.......

Trust me, i got you.... grin

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by DuduNegro: 6:55am On Jun 22, 2013
The Yoruba people are an ethnic group of West Africa. The Yoruba constitute close to 40 million people in total, found predominantly in Nigeria, where they make up around 21% of its population or roughly 35 million in 2012, making them one of the largest ethnic groups of Sub-Saharan Africa.

The majority of the Yoruba speak the Yoruba language.While the majority of the Yoruba live in western Nigeria, there are also substantial indigenous Yoruba communities in the Republic of Benin and Togo. Comparatively numerous Yoruba diaspora communities are found in the United States and the United Kingdom.

One hundred years ago a German researcher followed the trail of Atlantean Africa. Leo Frobenius, German ethnologist and explorer, a specialist in Yoruba culture, has written a major and rare book, "Atlantis, mythology and culture", from which are taken the following quotations:

In every life there is that moment when one finds his sacred thread. For Frobenius, this was the meeting with a "Black from West Coast of Africa" who told him: "In my country, every man is, by seniority, a large stone." Suddenly converted, Frobenius grabbed his sacred thread that guided him through the ancient Yoruba culture. He collected facts, festivals and fairies. "It did not take me less than nine to ten years to fully understand this sentence", he confessed.

Every man carries within him, unconsciously, the memory of ancient civilizations. Similarly, the rock is it a fragment of the memory of the world." Carl Gustav Jung


Leo Frobenius made an astonishing parallel between the Etruscans and the Yorubas. For him, Etruria and Yoruba country were two provinces of a very old "Atlantic civilization" he identifies with Plato's Atlantis. The Etruscans, a little known people, direct descendant of Megalithics and Atlanteans, were installed in northern Italy before Romans. The Yoruba country, the ancient gold coast, corresponds to the current Nigeria, plus Benin, and Togo.

Frobenius stresses that the two countries, though far apart, share "this fundamental idea of the lightning spurting from the sixteen regions of the sky." He mentions this "lightning conception that the Etruscans transmitted to the Romans."  The sixteen great gods whose homes are in the sixteen divisions of the sky,are common to Etruscans and Yorubas. That is why the cities were divided in sixteen districts reflecting the celestial homes and the personality of their sixteen divine occupants. "All this is the projection of sixteen archetypal figures: the sixteen figures of the Oracle of Fa, itself derived from the ancient geomancy."  The Oracle of Fa does not refer to the music note but to the goddess Fa or Ifa, one of the sixteen Yoruba deities. Fa governs clairvoyance and divination through a ritual that is still practiced.

The other deities of Yorubas remind of the Greek, Etruscan and Aztec gods : Uranus is Obatalla, the god of heaven; Hephaestus is Ogun, god of the forge; Zeus is Shango, the god of thunder and lightning, with his unique destiny: Shango hanged himself. Come on! Aren't the Yoruba gods immortal?

The god Shango hanged himself, then he left this reality level to live his death, as the good spirit he was. Where is the problem? The gods are men like us. Remember that the Yoruba country knows the loas sorcerers and zombies: voodoo and macumba come from there.

Here everyone is descended from one of the sixteen deities, according to his date of birth. All his life, he will worship his tutelary deity. But there is neither caste nor clan system, as the different children in a family may be descended from different deities.  In this specific case, tradition is not a social obstacle, but an asset. Anyone can enrich his family with his own inner wealth, from his own tradition.

It is the central orixá of the Brazilian Candomblé, which is found in voodoo under the name of Papa Legba or Exou, Esou, Exu, Bara, Legba, Elegbara, Eleggoua, Alouvaiá, Bombo, Njila, Pambou, Njila. It is found in Benin and in the ancient kingdom of Dahomey in Ondo, Ilesa, Ijebu, Abeokuta, Ekiti, Lagos.The Etruscans, for the little we know, followed a similar religion. Should we see here a true astrological religion based on sixteen signs instead of twelve? In any case, it is certainly a memory of Atlantis, homeland of the Etruscans and the Yorubas.
--------------------------------------------

Leo Frobenius

Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Katsumoto: 7:16am On Jun 22, 2013
Tony Spike:

Logical enough for Yoruba hardliners who insist to be satisfied on the flawed oral history. Yeah, Nimrod (or Sargon I) first appeared as a great king who first ruled mightily around 2200 BC. Sargon II was also named Nimrod because of his great exploits in Assyria, parallel to the first Nimrod. He however ruled around 722 BC. Sargon II is closer to the original Yoruba historical timeline though.

On a personal note, I believe the mythic Lamurudu story was only used to establish a line of kingship succession in Yoruba history. The whole Okanbi/Lamurudu and the seven ruling dynasties across Yorubaland, is a complete story, trying to validate kingship lines to Sargon II.

Sargon II is not closer to the original Yoruba historical timeline. If Sargon ruled around 23rd century BC and Oduduwa was found in Ife around 12TH century AD, then there can't be any closeness between them either through era or geography. Sargon died in Akkad and was succeeded by his sons. cheesy
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Katsumoto: 7:25am On Jun 22, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


We need to look closely at the Yorubas in Benin and Togo. The history of Benin Yorubas far older the ones in Nigeria.

Yorubas in Benin are the children of Popo and Ketu, grandchildren of Oduduwa - one of the seven original Alades.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 7:53am On Jun 22, 2013
Katsumoto:

Sargon II is not closer to the original Yoruba historical timeline. If Sargon ruled around 23rd century BC and Oduduwa was found in Ife around 12TH century AD, then there can't be any closeness between them either through era or geography. Sargon died in Akkad and was succeeded by his sons. cheesy

God bless you!
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by phineas: 7:56am On Jun 22, 2013
Nice thread,found some interesting links a while back I'll post later if I can still find them,

But apparently there are 3 main theory to the history of the yorubas

1-that they originated from the east,

Oral yoruba traditions say they came from mecca,

An emir gave a story to that effect that they were from the lineage of a man called ya rooba,hence the name yoruba who was from the east.

Similarities between ife art works and nok art work suggests either the east was Nok or Nok was a migratory route.

ancient history suggests ancient eyptians were actually black hence the possibility of the migration story,also linguistic similarities in pronunciation and meaning of many words inclding cup,water,daily words about 400 I counted then,have been found between egypt and yorubas as well as their ancient gods.

2-the ondos ekitis and one other state claim not to be part of the oduduwa clan,but that the migrants met them in the land.yet to find more reading material on that part of history.

3-lastly the esoteric myth that oduduwa came from heaven with a mission,and took over his principals authority when he became drunk collecting the chicken he was send with and thereby became the one who completed the mission,this myth has been debunked so many times.
However it was possible they said the yorubas were speaking in proverbs or parables,another cultural similarity to the east.

My point is there's a lot of information available on this subject with the burden of scientific evidence supporting the first 2,for all those interested some great scientific materials are also available on the internet.I'll find the link to them and post later.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by funnyx(m): 8:19am On Jun 22, 2013
Katsumoto:

The Fulani did not over run any villages. The Fulani successfully held on to Ilorin but Oyo was sacked by Ilorin whose forces were made up of Solagberu's Yoruba Muslims from Oke Suna and Afonja's Yoruba armies mixed with Hausa slaves (Gobirawa). Ilorin could only sack oyo after Lanloke laid siege to oyo Ile. There were several powerful kings/chiefs who were no longer the influence of oyo and who were all suspicious of the others. Some of there were Adegun (Onikoyi), Atiba (who would be Alaafin after fall of oyo Ile), lanloke (Ogodo). Alaafin Amodo in wanting to increase his power sought an alliance with lanloke by giving his daughter to lanloke. Unfortunately, lanloke killed the Alaafin's daughter and fearing that he would be attacked decided to attack oyo ile first. He successfully laid seige to oyo ile and after oyo sucummbed to his siege, Ilorin walked in and destroyed oyo Ile.

But you are correct in that Ibadan defeated the Fulani at Oshogbo in 1840.

Katsumoto, thank you for your priceless contribution.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Mutaino7(m): 8:36am On Jun 22, 2013
@op The yoruba's never originated 4rm oyo but 4rm ile-ife where they also believed to be the center of creation. Oranmiyan one of oduduwa sons created oyo when he migrated 4rm ile ife.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 8:38am On Jun 22, 2013
Balkan: Rubbish post. You went to hire and artist to sketch those funny pictures. You guys are always being conquered by every tribe
Ordinary Fulan conquered you people. Make you go sleep joo
Tell us what your problem is.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by TonySpike: 8:40am On Jun 22, 2013
Katsumoto:

Sargon II is not closer to the original Yoruba historical timeline. If Sargon ruled around 23rd century BC and Oduduwa was found in Ife around 12TH century AD, then there can't be any closeness between them either through era or geography. Sargon died in Akkad and was succeeded by his sons. cheesy

Sir, what I meant to say - is that the reign of Sargon II (third Nimrod) is more closer to 1 AD - than that of Sargon the Great (actual Nimrod), with respect to the Yoruba timeline (circa 12th century AD). Like you also said, over 1800 historical years or so separated the times of Oduduwa and Sargon II. I guess I was trying to use the word 'closer' as comparatively as possible, yet supporting your argument.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by babaowo: 8:55am On Jun 22, 2013
St_Black:
oga,ur OWN ifa is d one frm saudi arabia not that of yorubaland o,gerrit?
...olodo go and read your quran,when idolatory are pursuing prophet muhammed? ifa told them he was he in dungeon and Allha let spider make a cobweb round those place to decieve the idolatory and they later discover he was there etc....

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:46am On Jun 22, 2013
gbaky_floor:

This post rigs of the average southern Nigerian ignorance.

Actually Hausas are the ones assimilated into Fulani religion of Islam. Take your time and research on Fulanis. Most of the religious bigots are Fulanis.

Do you also know that majority of Nigerian leaders from the North dead and alive are fulanis?

Next time you see a person from northern Nigeria, take your time to ask relevant questions.

Till then stop this ignorance.


lol tell her bro.

the Fulani jihad took place for the very fact that Hausaland was returning to large-scale Paganism. Everyone knows that. And places like Adamawa, etc., were 100% Pagan upto 100-200 years back.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:49am On Jun 22, 2013
D-secret:
You are more than welcome.Common pagan 9ja that was too harsh on her

tell me that when Yorubas become extinct.


trust me, you may laugh at me now, but it takes barely 50 years ,and 1 or two generations of assimilation to wipe out an entire Ethnic Group, as of what happened with the West Europeans and the Natives of the AMericas.

I said it in a joking manner, but I was serious too.

then the Yorubas who survived for more than 5000 years, will be read about in History books.
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 9:51am On Jun 22, 2013
babaowo: ...olodo go and read your quran,when idolatory are pursuing prophet muhammed? ifa told them he was he in dungeon and Allha let spider make a cobweb round those place to decieve the idolatory and they later discover he was there etc....
OH,I SEE.
its like u r one of those babies attached with a quran wen u were given birth to .a n so igba,o n so awo.is dis topic on quran or yoruba history?
i will pardon u because of ur low level of understanding amongst ppl sharing tangible things.but i want to WARN U to throw dat quran spectacle cos we dnt forkin' need dat here.
......even ur quranic spectacle is malfunctioning
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 10:37am On Jun 22, 2013
Pls someone should answer my question. Why be say ancient yoruba women dey barb their hair like man?

What is the story behind that?
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Abayhormy(m): 11:12am On Jun 22, 2013
am lovin' Dis post..
I'm a PROUD Omo Yoruba ..(Ponbele). . Omo Yoruba to Sure.. From Kogi State ..
Up YORUBA !!
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by victorv12(m): 11:16am On Jun 22, 2013
It's so unfortunate that we don't have museums that our future generation can visit and learn from. The ones we have are not well equipped and the awareness is low. Our history is not well documented, instead, the white explorers documented most of our history to suit their interest. Still, I'm proud to be a BONAFIDE THOROUGHBRED YORUBA man!!

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Abayhormy(m): 11:28am On Jun 22, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:
Lovely thread

I be proud omo Yoruba......swagga!!!

Odua a gbe a o


@this pant......so the idea/design originated in Yorubaland?


am lovin' Dis post..
I'm a PROUD Omo Yoruba ..(Ponbele). . Omo Yoruba to Sure.. From Kogi State ..
Up YORUBA !!

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 11:50am On Jun 22, 2013
gbaky_floor:
Pls someone should answer my question. Why be say ancient yoruba women dey barb their hair like man?

What is the story behind that?
is that ur own share of d story?...
if u want to know,go and ask an old man who barbs in ur yoruba hometown maybe he can answer ur sillly question

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 11:50am On Jun 22, 2013
Answering the bird call!!

Proudly Yoruba, from waterside Ijebu, and repping for the big lasgidi!!

Hands high to the big Oduduwa and Obanta.

Yes sir!!

Salute!! wink cool
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 11:51am On Jun 22, 2013
Answering the bird call!!

Proudly Yoruba, from waterside Ijebu, and repping for the big lasgidi!!

Hands high to the big Oduduwa and Obanta.

When I die, bury me next to my Yoruba ancestors!!

Yes sir!!

Salute!! wink cool

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by Nobody: 11:52am On Jun 22, 2013
9jacrip:

God bless you!
baba 9jacrip,bawo ni tins
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by sweetcheecks(f): 12:03pm On Jun 22, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


tell me that when Yorubas become extinct.


trust me, you may laugh at me now, but it takes barely 50 years ,and 1 or two generations of assimilation to wipe out an entire Ethnic Group, as of what happened with the West Europeans and the Natives of the AMericas.

I said it in a joking manner, but I was serious too.

then the Yorubas who survived for more than 5000 years, will be read about in History books.

@Pagan 9ja, strangely I understand where you are coming from you know? Trust me I have heard it all from the royal tribalists, racist, xenophobic folks here in SA. smiley But thank God you are not Yoruba that would have not changed anything but maybe that would have been a little, tiny, bitsy saddening undecided. But since fortunately you are not a Yoruba and I do not believe I know or would ever want to know a housa person at any capacity, your concerns are a waste trust me broer. kiss kiss kiss

Nothing will change our lives though my dear. kiss

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by yokiti: 12:07pm On Jun 22, 2013
Texas.Cowgirl:


You dey madt?
This is not another Ibo-Jews story teller?
Arab ko Chinese ni
Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:15pm On Jun 22, 2013
sweetcheecks:

@Pagan 9ja, strangely I understand where you are coming from you know? Trust me I have heard it all from the royal tribalists, racist, xenophobic folks here in SA. smiley But thank God you are not Yoruba that would have not changed anything but maybe that would have been a little, tiny, bitsy saddening undecided. But since fortunately you are not a Yoruba and I do not believe I know or would ever want to know a housa person at any capacity, your concerns are a waste trust me broer. kiss kiss kiss

Nothing will change our lives though my dear. kiss

you think you understand but you don't really. Im not a tribalist because I dont propagate tribal wars infact if you see my pic, you will notice that my moto calls for the unity of full-blooded tribes all over the world.

you cant call me racist because i hardly care for skin colour or physical features.

Also it hardly matters whether im Yoruba or Igbo or Cherokee or Han Chinese.

The matter at hand is the protection and preservation of our tribes for future generations.


ofcourse i undestand its not your fault that you are half-bred. however you must not try to corrupt our tribes.

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Re: A Short History Of Yorubaland With Pictures by EzePromoe: 12:19pm On Jun 22, 2013
Abayhormy: am lovin' Dis post..
I'm a PROUD Omo Yoruba ..(Ponbele). . Omo Yoruba to Sure.. From Kogi State ..
Up YORUBA !!
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