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Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 6:12pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Ugosample: It's so sad! That's what happens when one doesn't plan! It's not a crime to emigrate but one must make a comprehensive plan when doing so.that u must have a plan first i think d us suppose to have job for people who win d dv |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Fadelex(m): 6:17pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
it's not as if it's so bad here... imagine paying $1,000 per months for house rent for just 2 bedroom flat. how can I leave my job (I'm lucky to have it), my profession, my family and bright future here in Nigeria to go and meet uncertainty in America, where I will be followed cuz of d colour of my skin, where I won't have freedom. it's not always greener at the other side. may God help us. 2 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by ladyflavour(f): 6:21pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
plan or no plan, if luck smile on u then carry go....its nt by power..... 1 Like |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by tpia5: 6:26pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
hmm! anyway. . . . . . |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Hwy95: 6:30pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Here lies the problem But without any assistance, family or guidance in a new country, many find themselves unprepared to start their lives from scratch. No one should go anywhere without doing some pertinent research. America or the rest of the World is not how as good as it used to be many years ago. Every Country has it's challenges some much more than others. Because of the constant threat from Al Queda / Terrorism many things have changed in the Western World. However America is still the land of opportunity with so many positives that completely out weigh the negatives. You do not have to be rich, privileged or connected to have a reasonably good life in the USA. Where did the following Face book, Linked In, Ups, Fedex, IpAD, IPhone, Google, Yahoo, Gmail, Black Berry, Movies, Fashion , Music etc, etc originate ? 4 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by soulglo: 6:33pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
b1327: that u must have a plan first Why? Were they forced to file to travel to the US? They made the choice. Then on top of all of that they moved to New York. When there are parts of the US they could have moved to and paid half of that amount for a 3 bedroom. Planning is everything. With their Visa and the types of jobs they had they actually would have qualified at the very least for food vouchers. They could have also qualified for financial aid to go to school and take English as a second language class. In fact with the income they were getting ALL of that would most likely be covered by financial aid. So again it is about planning. No one is going to spoon feed you. There are agencies set up everywhere for things like these. Both government sponsored and Charities. 3 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by ladygogo: 6:39pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
i seriously dont know why America is still doing the DV lottery. This immigration stream needs to be put on hold till their economy gets better and thereafter allow only skilled /professional individuals immigrate. 1 Like |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by ladygogo: 6:41pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Hwy 95: Here lies the problem Blackberry is Canadian and I dont know about movies, fashion, and music originating from America. 4 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by lastmessenger: 6:47pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
By the time their story change, they wont tell anybody. 2 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 6:49pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
I've said this before and I'll say it again. If you have a comfortable life in Nigeria with a job please stay back at home. The Dad with a comfortable life in Nepal should have stayed behind and found another way for the Son to educate in the US. Come to the US for vacation, buy property together with others and give it to a rental company but stay in Nigeria. You can have the American dream while living in Nigeria. 3 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 6:50pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
lady gogo: i seriously dont know why America is still doing the DV lottery. This immigration stream needs to be put on hold till their economy gets better and thereafter allow only skilled /professional individuals immigrate. It has been placed on hold. However just because the opportunity is there doesn't mean one should take advantage of it if it will end up being negative. |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 6:54pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Fadelex: it's not as if it's so bad here... imagine paying $1,000 per months for house rent for just 2 bedroom flat. how can I leave my job (I'm lucky to have it), my profession, my family and bright future here in Nigeria to go and meet uncertainty in America, where I will be followed cuz of d colour of my skin, where I won't have freedom. $1,000 per month is not actually that high for rent. Sure he can get cheaper but he also needs to balance that with easy access to work, etc All in all this family made a lot of miscalculations. PS: I've lived in the US since 1986 and I've never been followed so it's a misconception. Keep your nose clean and no one gives a hoot what color of skin you have. At least in my experience but I don't habitate slummy parts or move with dodgy characters. 3 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by AjanleKoko: 6:57pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
We should not use the experiences of this Nepalese woman to judge things. The US has a higher standard of living, and higher costs of living. Migrating to the US will require a lot more exposure and preparation than may be available to an average Nepalese. Language skills, education, work experience, even contacts in the US - all have their roles in ensuring as smooth a landing as possible. You can't just jump in from wherever, and expect to fit in from Day 1. Plus, nothing is guaranteed to anybody. It's a capitalist society after all. Ironically, this is kind of a testament to the resilience of the average Nigerian. We adapt very well, I must say 2 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by ladygogo: 6:58pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Somorin#1: No . it hasnt. https://www.dvlottery.state.gov/ it was put on hold in some specific countries because they had exceeded their quota for those countries or something of that sort. 1 Like |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by soulglo: 7:06pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
AjanleKoko: We should not use the experiences of this Nepalese woman to judge things. I have to agree. The average Nigerian will find a way even if the Visa granted was only to live on the sun 1 Like |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 7:07pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Well immigration is an adventure, and risk, if you make it, good, if not... 1 Like |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 7:09pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Some Europeans emigrated as paupers and got farmland in North dakota e.t.c. Immigration is a risk worth taking.... If you know what you are doing. It is not compulsory to live in your native land. The British are the biggest emigrants. |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Fadelex(m): 7:12pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Somorin#1:sir, I'm not tryin to condemn moving to America but my annoyance is with father leaving dependable and reliable job for uncertainty. I bet you went to US in 1986 as a bachelor, alone or to study... not moving your whole family without plan for sustainability 2 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by tolsee(m): 7:20pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
I have been in the US for about 3years now, having schooled in the UK (MBA) and Nigeria. It was pretty rough and tough in the beginning but now I have no regrets and see greater prospects. I can plan and see that plan through because there is a system that works and all you need is finding a niche for one's self. What really helped me was my family support system, this is a very important factor. Very important. Having a Nigerian British accent is hard enough, talk-less of Nepalese. America is what you make of it, the people you surround yourself with when you arrive will determine how far and which path you will go and end. 2013 is the "Ideas Age", not information or technology or industrial age. And the United States of America rules this age. For my brothers and sisters that have strong entrepreneurial capacities and resilience, they stand a better chance making it in the US than in Nigeria. Over here, we create value and then make money. No one really cares if you are white or black when they know your product or service will add value in some way to their lives either via increased profits or a easier lifestyle. We hear of 12year olds daily selling patents to Google and Apple for millions of dollars, who born you for 9ja?? Let people make their decisions either to migrate or remain in Nigeria. There is no one formula that fits all.. 5 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Hwy95: 7:25pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Hwy 95: Here lies the problem But without any assistance, family or guidance in a new country, many find themselves unprepared to start their lives from scratch. No one should go anywhere without doing some pertinent research. America or the rest of the World is not how as good as it used to be many years ago. Every Country has it's challenges some much more than others. Because of the constant threat from Al Queda / Terrorism many things have changed in the Western World. However America is still the land of opportunity with so many positives that completely out weigh the negatives. You do not have to be rich, privileged or connected to have a reasonably good life in the USA. Where did the following Face book, Linked In, Ups, Fedex, IpAD, IPhone, Google, Yahoo, Gmail, Black Berry, Movies, Fashion , Music etc, etc originate ? Blackberry is Canadian and I dont know about movies, fashion, and music originating from America. True about BB. But it's all North America. By Music i mean a lot of the music we like & enjoy ( Blues, R&B, Country, Rap, etc ) Movies ( American Movies ) |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by ladygogo: 7:27pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Hwy 95: Hwy 95: Here lies the problem You should have been more specific then. |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 7:28pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
I still dont get it why anybody will leave a comfortable middle class lifestyle in Nigeria to go and start life all over in the US, that country is the last place i will ever advice anybody wheter comfortable in Naija or not to migrate to. The so called American dream is nothing but a myth, it's all propanganda. |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Princek12(m): 7:29pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Does anyone think that there will be a 100% success rate for every lottery winner? I hope not. For every story like this, there are tens of success stories of people who won the lottery and became successful. Coming to America is not everyone, as you have to get a good education and work very hard. Only good thing is that there is a stronger likelihood of reward for hardwork in America. 2 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Uwadiegwu1: 7:30pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Well stated..I live in America too...and i definitely understand where you're coming from. dasparrow: |
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Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Nobody: 8:05pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
The America dream isn't as rosy now as it once was, and coming from a non English speaking country makes it very difficult for any individual in that situation.....Most Nigerians who relocate to the United States tend to start right from the ground up before making it...Even the rich do go through difficult challenges also.....Best advice for Nigerians with good jobs is never quit your day job.....The rule is for one to be in the Us every six months, spend a week or two and then back to Nigeria, until citizenship is granted....then decide whether to move to the Sates permanently. |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by Gbabe2: 8:23pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Bros its a lie.I left Nigeria 10 months ago with a visa lottery and i dont have any regret today.I was an Assistant Manager (Internal Audit) with an Insurance Company in VI when i won a Visa lottery.Also,I am an ACCA Chartered Accountant,a Certified Information System Auditor (CISA),a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA) and Certified Forensic Accountant (CrFA) when i left nigeria last December.By Gods grace i also had a Savings of 10000 USD with me when i left Lagos and i can tell you today i have no regrets at all. First and foremost,i started with this Certified medical Training (CMT) in Baltimore Maryland.After 3 months i got a job with the training and i was working as a care giver (cleaning and bathing the disabled and handicaps).If you have ever heard of Chimes Incorporation Baltimore,Maryland that was were i started with all my certificates and exposures.I wont deceive you,if i didn't do that my host was ready to throw me out then (March 2013).But i never lost my vision and dreams.With the little i was earning cleaning the disabled,i got a small car to push me around and was still applying for my accounting and audit jobs.I attended more than 40 different interviews both within and outside of Baltimore,MD.Severally i drove to Annapolis (State Capital) for interviews and i had no regrets.A lot of people told me i cant get an Accounting Job but i didnt allow their stupid,naive and parochial way of thinking to stop me.Peeps,we all know where we are going to.Some 1000miles and some 50 miles journey in life and which i believe will help you to prepare and fortify yourself.Guess what?i also started my CPA examinations instantly just to add value to my self and i have no regret at all. By Gods grace,today i have an Audit job with an international organization here in Baltimore,MD.I earn 60K USD and i will travel to 23 states in USA and 4 different Continents with my new role as International Financial Auditor (after 9 months of Job hunting). Dont ever under estimate yourself.Look beyond your hindrances and always pray to God for mercies and unusual favor.God has a purpose for you coming to United States.Dont cage yourself and dont ever listen to failures.Today,by Gods grace people come to me and ask how i did it. I have no regrets at all by his grace femmyb: I still dont get it why anybody will leave a comfortable middle class lifestyle in Nigeria to go and start life all over in the US, that country is the last place i will ever advice anybody wheter comfortable in Naija or not to migrate to. The so called American dream is nothing but a myth, it's all propanganda. 10 Likes |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by ladygogo: 8:38pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Gbabe 2: Bros its a lie.I left Nigeria 10 months ago with a visa lottery and i dont have any regret today.I was an Assistant Manager (Internal Audit) with an Insurance Company in VI when i won a Visa lottery.Also,I am an ACCA Chartered Accountant,a Certified Information System Auditor (CISA),a Certified Internal Auditor (CIA) and Certified Forensic Accountant (CrFA) when i left nigeria last December.By Gods grace i also had a Savings of 10000 USD with me when i left Lagos and i can tell you today i have no regrets at all. Your story is an inspiration. I love your never say die attitude. Thumbs up. 1 Like |
Re: Winning The US Lottery & Losing Faith In American Dream by chiwuike20: 8:46pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
lady gogo: i seriously dont know why America is still doing the DV lottery. This immigration stream needs to be put on hold till their economy gets better and thereafter allow only skilled /professional individuals immigrate.And u think if d 'skilled and professionals' were yardstick in d selection of immigrants, u wud be selected? Even if it were so, it wud not reduce d multitude of people playing d DV lottery |
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