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China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 4:38am On Apr 03, 2013 |
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Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 4:39am On Apr 03, 2013 |
North Korea and China have maintained a long-standing defense treaty under which Beijing is to come to Pyongyang’s aid in the event of an attack. The last time this was put into practice was during the Korean War, when tens of thousands of Chinese volunteer forces were deployed on the Korean Peninsula. The relationship between the two countries is often referred to as being “as close as lips and teeth” by Chinese military spokesmen. ^^^^That tells you all you need to know... May God help us all and save us from the impending armageddon... |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Feedmemore(f): 8:26am On Apr 03, 2013 |
This kid, (Kim) is in charge of a huge army, has delusions of grandeur and a willingness to use all of his power as absolute dictator to create havoc. The world had better start figuring out how to reign him in before he does some real damage and starts a war. 3 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by nitlad: 9:09am On Apr 03, 2013 |
Ain't nothing like nuclear-deterrence. When a psycho who doesn't think he has anything to lose is provoking a nuclear all-out, the bullies and all those who have much more to lose should be careful! That underaged rotund is a nut-case! 7 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 12:11pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
^^^^^ Abegi. No be today wey North Korea don dey make noise. When they get this belligerent, it means they're hungry. Wait for the next few weeks when some food aid will sneak into the country under the cover of darkness. They'll shut up, eventually. They always do. 4 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 12:14pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
shymexx: There's only ONE reason why China continues to prop up the North Koreans (and America the South): It's not in their interest for both Koreas to be reunited. The strategy is simple: Keep supporting North Korea (as irrational a rogue state as they may be), keep the Koreas divided, and maintain the existing balance of power. If Chinese and American interests are aligned on any issue, it's in keeping North and South divided. 4 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 12:29pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
HNosegbe: Don't you think the Chinese are also irritated by America's deployment of B-2 bombers and nuclear warheads to its borders?? And also America's military maneuvering in that axis?? Most experts believe North Korea is just a cover-up - and that the yanks are there to militarily blockade China; spy on its army; and try to contain its military and economic growth... Since late 2011, there has also been a shift in the US security policy from the Atlantic towards the Asia-Pacific... and this is to contain China... Also since the shift, there has an incessant anti-China campaigns by the smaller countries in that region, who're US allies... I'm sure the Chinese know what's going on and I think they're just being pro-active here... and don't forget that NK has a defense pact with China and China also has a defense pact with Russia.... Anyway, let's just pray for peace to reign.... Btw, why do you think NK is a rogue state?? 5 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 12:34pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Feed me more: Sis, the young man is just trying to be a strong leader - a weakling can never rule a military state... However, he has made some not-so-good gaffes which are borderline psychotic and suicidal since all the rancour and sabre rattling started... but NK isn't the aggressor here... Btw, it's nice to see you making contributions in the foreign affairs and politics sections... That's a good look and kind of different of the norm... Most of the chics here are permanently domiciled in the romance and family sections... 6 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 12:35pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Can the mod get us on fp?? |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Feedmemore(f): 1:54pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
shymexx: Hmmm... So you call what he is doing as being strong? Smh. Trying to be a strong leader by subjecting his people into perpetual starvation? Trying to be strong leader by isolating his country with the rest of the world? N.K. is the most extreme example of Orwellian Big Brother Totalitarianism in modern times. I just heard the Obnoxious leader have refused south Koreans entry into the joint factory at the border town of Kaesong. Kim needs to keep upstaging himself to prove his bluffs aren't bluffs. This standoff could be inadvertently pushed to war because of his escalating idle threats. I visit the romance section, but i decided not to comment as often as I do on politics and foreign affairs section, coz the romance and sexuality section is full of Kids who are contemptuously rude.... 7 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 2:27pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Feed me more: Perhaps, our definition of what a strong leader should be differs... Personally, I think Kim is defending the sovereignty/integrity of his people and country albeit in a psychotic manner - and that's what a strong leader should do... NK is an independent country and the people there should be allowed to lead their lives how they want to, devoid of foreign interference... I also don't think NK intentionally isolated itself from the rest of the world - the US isolated NK from the rest of the world with neck breaking sanctions... Let me cite an example: NK was lambasted and sanctioned for testing a rocket but when SK did the same thing a few months later, it was applauded for it... Can you see the hypocrisy there?? Also, how do you know he subjects his people to perpetual starvation when sanctions are the primary cause of the starvation?? Perhaps, the blame for the starvation should be on those who placed devilish sanctions on NK because every known academic would tell you that sanctions are the biggest anti-people policies ever... but, they're always ineffective against governments...It's a free world... NK's style of government is reminiscent of Maoism under Chairman Mao, and we know he's still the greatest Chinese leader ever despite being hated by the West... So labelling it "the most extreme example of Orwellian Big Brother Totalitarianism in modern times" is just your personal opinion based on your ideology... American can also be labelled as "the most extreme example of Orwellian Big Brother Totalitarianism in modern times" - with the almighty dollar acting as the "big brother." Perhaps, both sides are two sides to the same coin, don't you think?? Honestly, I just hope the tensions don't escalate further because it might lead to a wider catastrophic war(s).. Erm.. I agree with what you said about the romance section... I didn't know you visit the sexuality section... Damn!! Feed_me_more is showing off her other side... PS: I'm not siding with NK here, I'm basically just trying to be as objective as possible based on what an unbiased/free-world should look like... 15 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 2:30pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
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Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 3:17pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
shymexx: Rogue state n.(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a state that conducts its policy in a dangerously unpredictable way, disregarding international law or diplomacy http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rogue+state Doesn't NK fit the description? |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 3:26pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
HNosegbe: Don't you think the same definition applies to America 5 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 3:29pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
shymexx: Don't you think the Chinese are also irritated by America's deployment of B-2 bombers and nuclear warheads to its borders?? And also America's military maneuvering in that axis?? Most experts believe North Korea is just a cover-up - and that the yanks are there to militarily blockade China; spy on its army; and try to contain its military and economic growth... America has always been active in deploying military assets around the Korean peninsula right from World War II. Remember that the US assisted China back then in repelling Imperial Japan (of course all this was long before the (re)emergence of China as a major world power). What evidence to these "experts" have about NK being a cover-up? My theory has always been (and I stand by it) that NK has always been a communist-inspired outpost, propped up first by the Soviet Union and now China, and designed to prevent a united Korean Republic from attaining its true potential and serving as a counterbalance to the power of neighbouring countries. This is why I insist that American, Chinese (and even Japanese) interests remain aligned, as far as the perpetual partition of Korea is concerned. Modern-day China may see American presence as a threat to their own expansionary designs... But we must also remember that the US has a strategic interest in the region as well. shymexx: Since late 2011, there has also been a shift in the US security policy from the Atlantic towards the Asia-Pacific... and this is to contain China... Also since the shift, there has an incessant anti-China campaigns by the smaller countries in that region, who're US allies... I'm sure the Chinese know what's going on and I think they're just being pro-active here... and don't forget that NK has a defense pact with China and China also has a defense pact with Russia.... Agreed. The so-called "pivot to Asia" represents an American attempt to contain China by encirclement i.e. making allies of China's neighbours. That's why the US retains close ties with India, Japan and South Korea. It also partly explains why they went to war in Vietnam. The US simply wants to keep the Chinese pinned down in their own backyard and limit their expansion elsewhere. Nothing strange in that, just the whole power play. |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 3:30pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
shymexx: By this, are you referring to Iraq and Afghanistan? Well I would respond by saying that we live in a world where might is right. The US could ride roughshod over UN resolutions back then simply because they could. Can we say the same for any other nation? |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 4:34pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
HNosegbe: All the nations on the UN security council have the might(most esp. China and Russia) to do that, but most times choose to abide by international laws... By saying "might is right" that means slavery, colonisation, and Nazi Germany's annihilation of the Jews were right, no?? That might be true during the medieval ages... However, it has no place in the modern world after a new-world-order was signed by all with the created of the UN, post-world War 2...Which means you're going against the ethics of why the UN was created... and the UN charter that describes every independent country as the same under international laws... Also, every country's sovereignty must be respected at all times... Might is right would definitely make Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, and the Serbs' invasion of Kosovo right, no?? If so, why did the UN Security Council support a resolution to help the weaker countries in this context by using Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter as a pretext for that?? Article 51 of Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter: "Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security." ^^^^Perhaps NK is exercising its rights to self-defence with US' B-2 nuclear bombers and its never ending military exercises near its borders.. 4 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 4:37pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
HNosegbe: I agree with your post... |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by 1stola: 5:15pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
[size=16pt]CHINA AND N.K WILL CRUMBLE U.S, THEN IRAN WILL... ISRAEL. CHINA IS CAPABLE - EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA...[/size] |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Electronzeez(m): 5:21pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
When USA and its allies test or working on a nuclear programme."they call it self defence".when other countries like NK, IRAN,RUSSIA..... Are working on their nuclear programme.they call it "a plot to launch terror atack".i kip laffin @ USA 4 underestimating china.the china cyber attack on many of USA and SK firm,is enough to warn USA that china are no kid. 1 Like |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by jude33084(m): 5:27pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
nitlad: Ain't nothing like nuclear-deterrence. Even if Nk should deploy its nuke against the US, non will go half way to its target but NK will surfer ♍☺re in terms of human and infrastructural facilities destruction, infact some people in US won't even know if there is a war in Nk . The last time China supported them NK was almost left in ruins I pitty SK |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by decode55(m): 5:29pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by jude33084(m): 5:32pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
1st ola: [size=16pt]CHINA AND N.K WILL CRUMBLE U.S, THEN IRAN WILL... ISRAEL. Remember the war is at their becony I pitty the NK on τhis. |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Fishout(m): 5:34pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
[/color] 1st ola: [size=16pt]CHINA AND N.K WILL CRUMBLE U.S, THEN IRAN WILL... ISRAEL.IS MADE IN CHINA...[/size] i support urpost. dat's all ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 1 Like |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 5:34pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
This is what happens when you leave a Huge country for a Boy with punk hairstyle holding a Burger in one hand and Computer game in the other hand,.... He is thinking real war is like computer game 7 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by mentorken05(m): 5:39pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
1st ola: [size=16pt]CHINA AND N.K WILL CRUMBLE U.S, THEN IRAN WILL... ISRAEL.not in this life...the last tym I checked,d great USSR tried and failed.USA and ISREAL as well are somehow invincible...anyways I blame obama for all dis...he shuld listen to that great isreali president(netanyahu)so d US and isreal will combine and destroy all opposition threats..one tin is for sure d oda 2 countries in d UN security council (france nd UK) will av no option dan to back up d US and isreal...and den goes WW3.d ques is,WHO WILL NIGERIA BACK? 2 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 5:39pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
The funny thing is the countries with the greatest pile of nuclear warheads are U.S and russia. U.S has no right to dictate to any country what military equipment they produce. Afterall, even U.N (a divinely western organisation) couldn't stop the U.S from invading iraq and afghanistan. It's just like u telling me not to own something u own much more of because you're what? God? I can also see delusions of grandeur and a will to cause havoc in that young man's eyes. We cannot have another hitler. In summary, all this really has nuffin to do with us here in Africa where we're still grappling with poverty, underdevelopment and the effects of the slave trade. So, I'll just sit back relax and watch the movie of how NK and America go to war on CNN. Sad enuff, I know that will never happen. NK is just flexing muscles. Give them a permanent seat at UN security council and they'll keep quiet. The world is very much biased already to favor the west - the rich and powerful countries and the U.N is nuffin but an agent of the west. 3 Likes |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 5:49pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
HNosegbe:Yes, we can. Any nation that has weapon of mass destruction can claim to be "All that". NK just joined the league. If NK invades SK today, what will be America's response? Invade NK, send nuclear missles? NK will probably send their own nukes to target say L.A or washington. And there we have it. World War 4. Started over what? 2 answers - Greed and the quest for power. |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by Nobody: 5:53pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
jude33084: How do you know they won't get to the U.S. Remember that every country has the capacity for invention and technology. In fact every human does. A shield is only as strong as what it is designed to defend against. |
Re: China Mobilizes Military, On 'high Alert' Over N. Korea Threats by RealMccoy2(m): 5:56pm On Apr 03, 2013 |
People think Population is used to fight war....lol China shot down a Sattelite in space for the first time in 2010, while United State did same in 1980. China needs to perfect their production of quality product before engaging in combat. We blew both Russian and Chinese Infrastructures in Iraq during the Operation take Saddam out they did nothing, we repeated same thing in Libya they did nothing. B52 bomber is not your average Joe, it cost over a billion dollars to keep one flying. 7 Likes |
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