shol: Guys you can argue from now to the end of time the topic is one which cannot be settled by an appeal to fact because of its subjective and normative nature.

Why nairaland atheists are loosing is because they fail to admit that the spirutual world exist maybe because majority of them stay abroad, though

I'm no longer relugious the way i used to be, but to be honest if you read the bible without bias and an open mind you'll see so many things that will make you question the authenticity ofp the source, and some parts are also not included and who gave the people who edited the bible the permission to edit the word of God as is claimed,
My class governor whose father was also a great alfa stopped being religious he claimed somthings in the quran are acts of wickedness..

A question i'm still yet to find an answer to is this:

Given the senario of the Garden of Eden and given God's Omni-presence why didn't God stop Adam anf Eve from eating the fruit since he is omni-presence....

Sincere answers please

Look at it like a writer of a script. He knows the beginning and the end of his story.
God knew man was going to fall. Cos the fall of man gave birth to the world system.
Don't be surprised if pharaoh and judas are in heaven.
God sometimes need the devil to carry out His will.
The reason why and how God is doing what He is doing is what troubles a free thinker.
Believing and accepting/trusting His will brings immeasurable peace.

[color=#990000][/color] If Jesus can appear to thomas and the host of his deciples so the could believe he resurrected why can't he do it just this once for us who finds it hard to believe I guess we might start believing. Just curious

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Really? So if I should go by your thought process then a disbelief in God equals negativity right?

GOD is positive your situation is hopeless

Db boy: [color=#990000][/color] If Jesus can appear to thomas and the host of his deciples so the could believe he resurrected why can't he do it just this once for us who finds it hard to believe I guess we might start believing. Just curious

He is already knocking @ d door of ur heart only if u let him in

Db boy: [color=#990000][/color] If Jesus can appear to thomas and the host of his deciples so the could believe he resurrected why can't he do it just this once for us who finds it hard to believe I guess we might start believing. Just curious

How would you know that the person that has appeared is Jesus ? We don't exactly have a photo of him

Proffdada:
GOD is positive your situation is hopeless

There is no denying the fact that God is positive but how does a disbelief in God make atheists devils and fools?

From Douglas' write up I can deduce that he never really knew the Lord or had a personal relationship with Him.
Don't be decieved by his titles, moral or religious antecedent. It doesn't hold water if there is no foundational relationship with the person of Jesus. I refuse to join issue with those who argue with God's non-existence because they think there should always be a proof just like men in Noah's days did.
Surely you may not believe now but its appointed unto man to die once thereafter the judgement.
Have you ever wondered why most athesist die out of frustration or commit suicide? There is a vaccuum only God can fill, not science, not money, not sex or even your ideology can do.
He that is wise should make hay while there is still breathe in you, for a time come when you won't have this opportunity. #selah

inspiredbyGOD:.:
There is no denying the fact that God is positive but how does a disbelief in God make atheists devils and fools?

If u r not for Him u r against Him.

To all atheist, no one is compelling you to believe a God exists including I... I understand how you people feel Cuz life made it so... But that does not mean you should deny the existence of the creator or words from the bible... Researches I've been carried out on the validity of the bible and its text and the results have been in correlation with what Christians belive..to find out more. Google is your buddy..
We all know that there is a balance in nature in all ramifications ranging from the human body(homeostasis), water cycle etc.. This balance is always maintained.. Evil balances good.. Evil is orchestrated by the devil or his element sin and good by God.. How do you atheist in the house answer this questions below..
1. What are the so called rational explanation behind miracles, black magic,
voodoo
2 existence of humans and their purposes
3 soul travelling, mysterious sicknesses which the medical profession has no solution but a word of prayer was the permanent solution etc etc

inspiredbyGOD:.:
This is the word of God himself but yet Christians claim that Jesus came to die for our sins. If every man dies for his own sins then where does that put Jesus?

* If Jesus cancelled this statement by God then that means that God's word isn't eternal and hence can be changed right?

God remains the same albeit He dealt with man through dispensations. Never inject what He says under 1 dispensation to another.
There are 7 dispensations in the Bible. The quote you picked is God dealing with man under the
Dispensation of the law of moses. That dispensation and covenant came to an end after the death of Christ.

ooman:

You seem not to get it. Atheism is as a result of study of nature, not just some ancient ideas.

The more you study and understand nature, the more you realize that intelligence is never involved.

Nature itself speaks against god.

i guess u r a mistake ryt

inspiredbyGOD:.:
How would you know that the person that has appeared is Jesus ? We don't exactly have a photo of him

He will appear to you like the Son of God

The fact still remains that, God is real. There is a supreme being. Belief it or not... Im not a Christian nor Muslim... Im a #Crossbearer, i bear my cross alone under the shade of the #Grail message... All books in the world claim there is God, only freethinker and atheist dont.. #Wiccans also believe.. Lets preach love and forget about religion, its nothing but a fable created by some nitwit beings to cause confusions... The idea of#Religion is not the idea of God @all.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Jesus would be so proud of you! You have replied like a true Christian should.

Can you show me where Jesus whom you claim to follow as a CHRISTian insulted anyone or used vile words against people
No wonder people are abandoning your religiosity that surpasses that of the Pharisees, Saducees, Scribes et al.

Meanwhile continue waiting for grace instead of finding something worthwhile to work on and add value to your society.
That is how we wait for some politician or sojaman to bail us out of our collective quagmire and they turn around to exploit our mugu-ness.



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ayenny02:
According to three out of the four versions of the Gospel present in the Christian Bible, it is said that whilst Jesus was on the way to be crucified, the soldiers escorting him stopped a certain Jewish man who happened to be passing by named Simon of Cyrene, and made him carry the cross for Jesus.

Now, read carefully the account given in the Gospel of Matthew [Matthew 27:31-37] and note that the text actually implies the crucifixion of Simon of Cyrene and not Jesus (all Biblical quotes in this article are from the King James translation):

31: And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
32: And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.
33: And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
34: They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
35: And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
36: And sitting down they watched him there;
37: And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Notice that in verse 32, Simon of Cyrene is referred to, and that in all of the verses following it up to verse 37, Jesus' name is not mentioned, there is only "him" and "he". Thus implying that the word "him" in verse 35 refers to Simon of Cyrene, and not to Jesus.

The fact that they wrote a sign above his head claiming him to be Jesus only indicates that this was what they thought.

And see Mark's similar account [Mark 15:20-26]:

20: And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him.
21: And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.
22: And they bring him unto the place Golgotha, which is, being interpreted, The place of a skull.
23: And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not.
24: And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.
25: And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.
26: And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.

These two accounts clearly imply the likelihood that Simon of Cyrene was the one crucified instead of Jesus. However, due to the belief that later came to prevail among the Christians regarding the crucifixion of Jesus, along with the confusion that they must have had in reconciling all of the contradictory accounts, it is likely that much of the other content of those gospels regarding events afterwards was doctored and distorted.

ayenioooo ! let us start by goin through to Mark 15:26-37 and see if Jesus was the same HIM (simon) or HIM the Christ that was actually crucified !
''The chief priests also made fun of him among themselves and the scribes, and said, “He saved others, he cannot save himself. If only [b]this Christ, the king of Israel, would come down now from the cross, we should see it and believe!” And even the men who were crucified with him hurled abuse at him.

33-34 At midday darkness spread over the whole countryside and lasted until three o’clock in the afternoon, and at three o’clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice, ‘My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?’
35 Some of the bystanders heard these words which Jesus spoke in Aramaic—Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?, and said, “Listen, he’s calling for Elijah!”
36 One man ran off and soaked a sponge in vinegar, put it on a stick, and held it up for Jesus to drink, calling out, “Let him alone! Let’s see if Elijah will come and take him down!”
37 But Jesus let out a great cry, and died.
Ayeni,according to what you have up there,you said Jesus'name was never mentioned in that account meaning that it was Simon of cyrene that was crucified ! How misleading !
If you do not know or may be you know but just want to run down the christian believe,Christ and the holy bible,don't expect every single unnecessary details to be mentioned in the bible.This word of God is written for Christians & not scientists or atheists but if you care,one led by the spirit can open ur eyes to the things u don't know !
Now,let us consider the following :
Where was Jesus when Simon was carrying HIS (Jesus')cross ?
The soldiers who compelled Simon to carry the cross on behalf of Jesus,were they the same soldiers that escorted them Jesus and simon to the place of the skull and they never knew they were supposed to maintain statusquo by returning the cross to the rightful owner ?
Could it be that immediately the cross was taken from Christ the saviour and given to Simon the passerby and Jesus the Christ took to his heels or disappeared into thin air ?
May be the soldiers had a plan with Jesus just to whip or beat HIM up in front of the mammoth aggressive crowed and have or help him escape ?
Ayeni,may be i should just conclude that the same aggressive crowed who were screaming ''crucify HIM,crucify HIM'' later had a change of mind on their way to golgota in pity of Jesus and had Simon the 'innocent' passerby crucified instead of Jesus ! Should we follow the believe of our 'muslim brothers'that said God made the people to see the face of Christ on the cross or it could be that it was Judas one of Judas'disciple that was crucified !
Ayeni,if you are a christian,believe in the bible that is the word of God.If you are not,believe in what you think is the right thing to believe in.If you choose to believe in nothing like the atheists,go ahead we will continue to pray to that which we believe in for ur soul to be saved !
God help us

Proffdada:

He will appear to you like the Son of God

And how does the Son of God look like?
Any description

Many pple hates God cos he doesn't allow dem to f....k

Db boy: [color=#990000][/color] If Jesus can appear to thomas and the host of his deciples so the could believe he resurrected why can't he do it just this once for us who finds it hard to believe I guess we might start believing. Just curious

He did countless miracles in front of His disciples, yet They doubted/denied him. Even if Christ shows up today by tomorrow you will still find people saying its a fluke.
Moreover, He does not need to prove anything to man anymore. His word is full and complete if properly divided.

THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART 'THERE IS NO GOD'

God can never share his glory with man or gods.

Db boy: [color=#990000][/color] If Jesus can appear to thomas and the host of his deciples so the could believe he resurrected why can't he do it just this once for us who finds it hard to believe I guess we might start believing. Just curious

He will not appear to you !
You seek for a sign but you will find none !
Jesus rebuked Thomas for wanting to see before you believe. He can still rebuke you this day for wanting to see before you believe.To have faith is to constantly hear or study the word of God.Christians do not wait to see before they beleive.Just believe.If you must see before you believe,then it might be in hell ! God forbid that you go to hell !
God help us

Umhnnm.. Another Judas has fallen. "none of him that the father has given to me will be lost,...but he that his not given to me, will wander his way away from me".
Sincerely humanity is an experiment, we dont have anything worthful to compare ourself to God or even comprehend or understand His existence. We are only given the grace of the Son of God "JESUS" to see things as they really were. If you name it an evolution,good, then pass it rightly into the next stage of life, then you will have a better understanding of your former life.

dvdon: God can never share his glory with man or gods.

God is ONE !
He relates with us in three personalities; Jesus,the holy spirit and HIMSELF bein the HEAD !
God help us

anonimi:

And how does the Son of God look like?
Any description

your spirit will feel His awesomeness and glory. it'll be like being high on some pure energy that your senses cannot comprehend, then you'll hear His voice . all this i cant really describe but you will testify in time

jammyng: A fool has said in his heart that there is no God. I'm not surprised at all.

Can't you just prove that God exists instead of calling non believers fools

anonimi:

And how does the Son of God look like?
Any description

If you can see God you have seen HIS father ! HE and HIS father IS ONE !
God help us

jammyng: A fool has said in his heart that there is no God. I'm not surprised at all.

Can't you just prove that God exists outside of your imagination instead of calling us non believers fools

anonimi:

And how does the Son of God look like?
Any description

HE and HIS father is One !
If you can see HIS father you have seen THE son !
God help us

don33310: Religion have cause more problems than good,how i wish,i can abolish it.

U can only wish but can do nothing about it.many tried like u've said and u can google where d end up

manmustwac: Can't you just prove that God exists outside of your imagination instead of calling us non believers fools

What prove do you want again ?
I do not think that guy is a scientist who uses apparatus to test things !
God is spirit and not man ! To feel God you have to go spiritual.For a physical proof,may be that is what you need,the universe was never magic or scientific,God made it possible and gave man a creative power to improve on HIS (GOD)creation.
What other prove do u want again ?
God help us

U knw, i hate it wen someone poked the unknown and finally got himself mad! He wld av done better if he had jes shut up and move on.

I dnt give a fucck if someone is a muslim or an atheist. Someone shld jes let me be and stop eyeing ma religion!

I'm a christian, i go to church, and i dnt drag no one with me to my 'darkness' as u atheists alwys claim religion is.

Dnt u roaches think it's high time u let me be?
Besides, i dnt throw bombs or draw swords. No one point a gun at ma face to drop ma money!

U guys are either some disgrunted fools or u jes won't mind ur businesses!