Goshen360: King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Expanded Bible (EXB)
But solid food is for those who are ·grown up [mature]. They are mature enough [who through practice/exercise have trained their faculties/senses] to know the difference between good and evil.

Hebrews 5:14

musKeeto: ^^^^^ Slave.

brainpulse:

This verse is used as an example to likened physical growth when it involves teaching and maturity in the things of God not in the context of asking you to use your human knowledge and reasoning in matters involving SPIRITUAL ISSUES & DISCERNMENT, thoughts, understanding and knowledge of the things of GOD.
Spiritual matters are utterly different from Physical principles and what Governs it. We can only discern and reason out physical things through our human knowledge, understanding and from experiences, which are not in-depth and can only be from the minimum surface.

brainpulse:

Gal 5:16-17
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusted against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
While it is appropriate and expedient for everyman to be in the spirit at ALL times to easily discern the antics of men and of the devil there is also a place to use our brain and reasoning on some issues of life which we must declare that it is VERY LIMITED and will not see far.

brainpulse:


The bible says in John 14: 26-
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
If the place of the Holy Spirit is to teach ALL THINGS and BRING ALL things to our remembrance ( through spiritual reasoning), then what we need to do as men led by the spirit is to turn our spiritual antenna to the frequency of the HOLY SPIRIT.

brainpulse:

Our reasoning should be of the spirit of God not of our HUMAN knowledge and understanding.

brainpulse:

Then what can we say of FAITH if we tend to limit our reasoning to the knowledge of what we feel, see, think and touch. Then the message of faith will be contestable only on the context of physical and mental reasoning which is normal to every man born of flesh.
Heb 11:1(NLT) -Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we cannot see.
(ISV)Now faith is the assurance that what we hope for will come about and the certainty that what we cannot see exists.
So when God told Moses to raise is Rod, He had a choice to either see by his spiritual eyes driven by faith or by his physical eyes driven by reasoning and tell God this is never possible.

brainpulse:

When Christ told the Centurion in Matt 8:5-13, He had a choice to either see by his spiritual eyes driven by faith or by his physical eyes driven by reasoning or tell Christ this is never possible.
So our human reasoning is good but will always create more problems rather than solution for us especially in spiritual issues and as well physical e.g. Eve reasoned with the serpent and our spiritual understanding till date as being corrupted but thanks to salvation and redemption.

Image123:
i know. Unfortunately, you don't know that you are a slave of sin and satan.

Goshen360: When God said, Come! Let us REASON together. In the New Testament, same God puts the Holy Spirit in a believer, who then are you gonna REASON with if you cannot use your SENSES? and with what are you gonna REASON if you're to come to the reasoning platform with a dumb\empty head\mind? God or Word Reasoning are biblical attributes of MATURE Christians.

musKeeto:

ur papa

Image123:
There you go, i think you're too subservient with the devil. He uses you too effortlessly imho.

Image123:
see Gosh quoting the law oh. Are you a man of the law ni?

Goshen360:

^ How about this?

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, Acts 17:2

The "scriptures" is THINGS OF GOD AND SPIRITUAL ISSUES are written therein, we have one of the Apostles "REASONING" the scriptures. What say ye to this?

Goshen360:

What does it mean to WALK in the Spirit? How can we being PHYSICAL being walk in the SPIRIT? When we know it actually means to WALK IN THE SPIRIT, then we will understand what that scripture means. Kindly tell us what it means to walk in the Spirit.

Goshen360:
We are NOT putting away the place of the Holy Spirit. Go through my responses again. We have the Holy Spirit to "REASON" with for God said, Come, Let us "reason" together. We reason together with God BY THE HOLY SPIRIT in US in spiritual matters and things of our daily living.

Goshen360:

God doesn't suspend our HUMAN REASONING when we approach him. You're making it sound as it we are on another planet when we talk the things of God or that we leave our physical realm when we deal with the Spiritual matters. NO! The Holy Ghost uses our RE-GENERATED mind to REASON and THINK through the things of God. That's not just using OUR HUMAN KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING ALONE - We WORK WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Goshen360:

Those who exercise their mind and engage their reasoning faculty also understand the place of FAITH. If defiles human understand and logic. We understand that also from scriptures. There's a place for 'reasoning' and there is also a higher place for 'faith in God' to which we are called.

18Even when there was no reason for hope, Abraham kept hoping—believing that he would become the father of many nations. For God had said to him, “That’s how many descendants you will have!”e 19And Abraham’s faith did not weaken, even though, at about 100 years of age, he figured his body was as good as dead—and so was Sarah’s womb. 20Abraham never wavered in believing God’s promise. In fact, his faith grew stronger, and in this he brought glory to God. 21He was fully convinced that God is able to do whatever he promises. << Romans 4 >> New Living Translation

Goshen360:

You're still mixing things up. Human reasoning VS Holy Ghost reasoning in the word of God? Two different things. Again, those who reason the scriptures CLEARLY understand the place of FAITH and when to reason. That's where there maturity in handling the word comes to play a role. When you see your brother going hungry, do you still need to Holy Spirit to tell you to give him food...'if' you have more to spare to him? Human reasoning by their regenerated mind is permitted in the things of God and spiritual matters and that doesn't throw faith into the trash.

Again, when Eve 'reasoned' with the serpent, haven't we\you learnt from that already? Maybe when you answer that question up there about what it actually means to walk in the spirit, you will understand we, in this age and dispensation are more blessed than Eve was.

Bidam: Yeah it is due to this same human reasoning that the whole world is now in a mess.Right has now become wrong and wrong has now become right, same sex marriage and abortion is now legalized and acceptable. Erosion of moral and spiritual attributes because the word of God is twisted, misapplied, misrepresented and misinterpreted. No body is accountable to the word of God anymore.

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Oh, thanks for the definition, though it remained ambiguous. Because people who agree with person A are seen by person A as thinking. As to blindly following religion, it's actually better to follow blindly than to follow religion with eyes wide open like many.

To the real issue however, there is no wrong in following God blindly sometimes.

Following God is faith. Abraham followed God 'blindly'.

musKeeto:
So reason works until you give your life to Christ? Do you guys understand how dull this sounds?

No wonder our country is like this. TRAMPLE upon REASON, o Christians...

Bidam: yeah ask Hitler that question. may be it won't be dull if he was alive.

musKeeto:
You mean, Hitler the Christian, right?

Bidam: He might as well change this ID becos Moses was born in the land of Goshen.

ninja4life: dis is how boko haram started and we wonder why we have so much problem in dis country when d youth are not expected to use their brain and logic but to believe evryting d pastor says no wonder d church is now a business centre since nigerians are so gulluble dat dey can believe evryting dey are told no wonder those people are even competin with our politicians for buying private jets.mtcheew big fool

musKeeto:
So reason works until you give your life to Christ? Do you guys understand how dull this sounds?

No wonder our country is like this. TRAMPLE upon REASON, o Christians...

frosbel: shocking.

No body follows God blindly, God is the author of reason, throughout scriptures we see the reasoning of GOD , he gave us a brain to reason with him and have faith in his promises and love.

To suggest that God wants us to follow him blindly is foolishness.

Wrong again.

Faith is not blind following , do you really know what faith means in the bible ?

Faith is TRUST , trust in GOD that what he has said in his word he will do. The reason why God asks us to meditate on his word, is not so that we can blindly jump into the abyss , it is to safeguard us from the wiles, lies, deception and myths of SATAN.

God's word is wisdom , the more we read it and meditate on it, the sharper our reasoning becomes and the more easily we destroy the falseness of religion.

In the verse below, GOD asks us to get understanding, but how can we get understanding if we do not reason ?

"The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding." - Proverbs 4:7

slave mastah:
*holding up the skull of old Ben, ex-head house slave*

The science of phrenology is crucial to understandin' the separation of our two species. *Picking up a hacksaw* And the skull of the African here? The area associated with submissiveness is larger than any human or any other sub-human species on planet Earth.

*Saws a piece off the back of the skull, brushes it off, and holds it up*

If you examine this piece of skull here you'll notice three distinct dimples. Here, here and here. Now, if I was holdin' the skull of an Issac Newton or a Gallileo, these three dimples would be found in the area of the skull most associated with creativity. But this is the skull of old Ben. And in the skull of old Ben, unburdened by genius, these three dimples exist in the area of the skull most associated with servility.

musKeeto:
So reason works until you give your life to Christ? Do you guys understand how dull this sounds?

No wonder our country is like this. TRAMPLE upon REASON, o Christians...

ijawkid:

If all nigerians applied the words of Jesus,would nigeria be the way it is?.........

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Muskeeto if you as a person applied the words of Jesus would you be a muskeeto?....

frosbel: I have not read so much gibberish in a very long time regarding the use of our brain.

If we cannot use our brain, why did God give it to us ? Then we are no more better than the beasts of the field who live by impulse.

It is because we do not reason that we believe what MOGs tell us and follow them into perdition.

We now take pride in being dumb , no wonder people laugh at us.

smh.

2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

musKeeto:
Did you know that the foolish virgins that didn't have OIL....





Were Ijaw girls?

ijawkid:

If all nigerians applied the words of Jesus,would nigeria be the way it is?.........

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Muskeeto if you as a person applied the words of Jesus would you be a muskeeto?....