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Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Goddex: 3:17pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Gbawe: Let Fashola provide Lagosians with pipe-borne water. Public water supply is almost entirely a state government affair. We are forced to live on "satchet water" we don't know the source. ACN propagada machine has a way of playing on our phsyche by blaming Fed Govt for every ill and making it look as if they love the people more. 6 Likes |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ShalomNigeria: 3:40pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ol2012: 2 answer d bolded, yes d legislation I think prohibits state govts from biding directly 4 DISCOs. If u'v been following d process u'l remember d govts of Ondo, Ekiti, Delta & Edo states actually setup a private consortium together with other organizations 2 bid 4 Benin DISCO. D bid was disqualified 4 2 reasons according 2 d Chairman of d NCP technical committee(Atedo Peterside) overseeing d process. D consortium submitted 2 different bids against d rules & non of d 2 even met d requirements as contained in d bid document. Lagos state govt had d option of patnering wit any of d consortia dat bidded 4 Eko & Ikeja discos since they were well aware of d legislation. I'm not sure they did though.I hope people have been following your explanation rather than their PDP vs APC/ACN positions. To support your points, The Port Harcourt DISCO was actually won by a consortium comprising of Some Niger Delta states and a technical partner. The truth is Lagos should have been serious then if the state was really interested knowing that the two DISCOS will attracts financial heavy weights because of their prospects. I am praying that the youth of our country (which I believe this forum boost of reasonable percentage)will be more objective in their criticisms of political office holders. We should be wise enough to know that Nigerian politicians are the same and the beautiful ones are not yet born. Or what should we say of the reason given to increase the tenure of local governments excos in Lagos. If they are saying a LG chairman will need a year to familiarized with his local govt (a place that is assumed to be is constituency and already aware of events within), how long should it take a governor and a president to know the state and country respectively? The earlier we let them know we are not ignorant of their deceptions, the better they will all take the issue of accountability in governance seriously. 1 Like |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by superbloke(m): 3:50pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ol2012: As 4 ur concerns xpressed in d bolded, d FG is still holding on 2 d transmission segment of d power sector(Obviously d most critical). As such dat shouldn't really be a concern. While I'm not a jonathan admirer, I strongly believe he appears 2 be serious wit dis power issue. Maybe Nigerians just need 2 be a bit patient.Yea, I'm aware of the FG still being in control of the transmission company. Anyway, seems LASG wanted full control of those DISCOs.Thanks for responding maturely. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Reference(m): 3:51pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
IOMN: Are you talking about micro or macro generation scales because the only advatage solar power has is scale (you can generate any amount of power you wish). The downsides are just too many. If it was that attractive carbon-fuels, nuclear and other renewables will have gone extinct by now. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by lastpage: 4:05pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ShalomNigeria: Good Points! I think that as we discuss issues and exchnage ideas, we should all get to a point were WE CAN SUMMARIZE and reach a sort of "position" on critical issues that affect us and our children's future. In that resepect, taking into cognizance the public's fear of Tinubu acquiring every Govt structure in Lagos (To be honest, he has a history of these type of shennanigans, using cronies) and the situation where Lagos is being crippled by the lack of adequate power supply, the prospensity for Govt-run business to nose-dive and gulp money unnecessarily, the penchant for "some" individuals to connive with the likes of El Rufai, to buy National assets for PEANUTS, only to strip it bare and profit from such (instead of developing, building and nurturing it as intended... and their are glaring examples of these, so no arguments needed),.... We MUST articulate a position which counters all these "negatives" while emphasizing the "positives" What we need is SOLUTIONS WHICH SOLVES THE PROBLEMS. We cannot continue to toy with our country's future, while playing dirty politics. The Politrick-cians already stole us dry and they are laundering the money by using it to buy states assets (they learned that from Russia, me thinks) and turning themselves into overnight Multi-Billionaires! This is not good for the country, North, South, East or West. The arguement given in respect of the local Govt issue is purile, to put it mildly! Its nausaeting to read. Anyone that needs a whole year to 'aclamatize' to office, in an environment where they live and are considered 'grassroots' is NOT FIT for that office. SIMPLE. Otherwise, let every 'aspiring' LGA Officer FIRST do the aclamitization (whatever that means?) before venturing for elective office. As for power, no one wants to leave the "chain-process of his business" in the hands of others. What l mean is that, if l invest a lot to generate electricity and l have to depend on another company for its distribution (entirely), then l am supsceptible to the whims and caprices of that other company becaue without them, l cannot sell my product and l may suffer loss, if and when they decide to "arm-twist" me. For this reason, a business person or venture financier would love to be in total control of the "chain of process" of its products, from Generation to Consumption. But be as it may, by having SHARES in such down-stream sectors of the business, these fears may be allayed. We need honest and open-minded people who are not led by filthy lucre and party politics. Nigeria is our country and what we make of it is our responsibility! Where is our sense of Patriotism naah? I know we've been lied to, misled, neglected and abused but. .... Hey we cant give up on our own country? My Take. Lastpage! 2 Likes |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Reference(m): 4:12pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ceejay80s: When will FG sell 3rd mainland bridge? They can and perhaps they should. Afterall Lagosians are comfy with paying road tolls. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by karlmax2: 4:16pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ol2012: D power project being promoted by d Rivers state govt is a GENERATION & not a DISTRIBUTION company. All distribution companies unbundled from PHCN were offered 2 d private sector with about 10% stake(not sure) reserved 4 govts of their host states. The power sector reform act makes provision for every interested investor(local/foreign)as well as govts(federal, state & even financially capable local govts) 2 invest in d power GENERATION segment of d emerging power market.they never did they were busy criticising the process that it was never going to work.that it was a fraud . |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Chinom(m): 4:22pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
I would rather it goes to pure private companies. Lagos state govt may not always be the way it is now. Besides Fashola has just a few more years to go. State govts could destabilize DISCOS and WE Lagosians will suffer it. We want REAL privatisation. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Nobody: 4:22pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ZUBY77: Dear Lagos state,The part of the constitution the exclusively leaves the distribution of electricity in the hands of the FG is killing the economy. While states can generate power, they are constitutionally empowered to distribute, as it is not in either the concurrent or residual list. On the planned sale of the National Theatre, I ask, is the FG broke that it wants to sell the national edifice that is reputed to be largest in the world? If the FG sells it to Lagos State Government there is no problem because it will still be owned by government, though not the FG. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Reference(m): 4:23pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
BetaThings: Ha, ha. No chance. Bring those chaps in and they'd get lost in our jungle. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by slimfit1(m): 4:26pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Let fg sell it to a reasonable company Lagos state don't and should nt have any business in this kind of area regulate it if u could shekana |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Nobody: 4:37pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
If Lagos State is serious, they should rather invest in GENCOs and not DISCOs, who will generate Power for them to Distribute. This is Greediness, Federal Government should not sell any DISCOs to Lagos. When other States were building IPPs, Lagos was busy building Toll-Gates. 2 Likes |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ocelot2006(m): 4:53pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Those clowns in Lagos are not serious. So the FG refused to sell the DISCos in Lagos to them, big whoop. Did they ever consider the possibility that another conglomerate/coy with better technical skills and bigger pockets outbidded them? And why don't they build their own distribution system? Afterall, the FG via NERC already granted states the authority to distribute locally. Finally, since when did the LASG have a say on the National Theatre? Last time I checked, it was the SOLE PROPERTY OF THE FG, not partially owned by the FG and LASG. The FG Has every right to so whatever they want with that facility without consulting the state as it's non of the later's business. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 5:06pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Billyonaire: If Lagos State is serious, they should rather invest in GENCOs and not DISCOs, who will generate Power for them to Distribute. This is Greediness, Federal Government should not sell any DISCOs to Lagos. When other States were building IPPs, Lagos was busy building Toll-Gates. Olodo, Lagos built the first IPP in Nigeria and it was sabotaged by the same useless and incompetent bad bele people aka your cassava bread abuja uncles.. Lagos state built and is currently generating and distributing power via underground cable as we speak. Building IPP today means nothing to the people of the states involved in terms of 24/7 power supply because their IPP is a free gift to the obsolete national grid. The so called private investors are in it to make money and if stripping and selling off the plants is more profitable from their business point of view, you'll end up with nothing including zero power and you can not do a damn thing about it. All these internet school kids sef.... |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 5:31pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Goddex: You mean the people of Lagos state and Nigerias do not deserve electricity until the state government give everybody water to drink? Is this your own warped idea of good public policy and administration? Have you asked yourself why they still have water problem in Lagos and other parts of Nigeria? 1. Let's confine this to lagos state. The major reason why they are having water problem in Lagos state is because of the same power problem we are talking about, you need electricity to power pumps needed to get the water to the public 24/7 and you can not get water without power to power the pumps and in this area, your rubbish remains another ignorant and misplaced rubbish, your federal government is responsible for a major chunk of water problem in Lagos and other parts of Nigeria because of lack of 24/7 electricity. 2. Because the federal government's incompetency and corruption regarding power generation and distribution, Lagos state government end up puting up the resources to build IPP to power the 2 main water works for constant pumping of water, but the other water works across state are still at the mercy of the worthless federal eletricity. 3. Lagos state have built nothing less than 15 water works and to my knowledge, your useless and incompetent federal government is yet to build. I've never seen a government elected and paid by the people work so hard to suppress and deny the same people growth and opportunities and you cheerleaders cheering them up are the even worse because for some dumb and re.tarded reasons, you people thinking prosperity and progress in Lagos state is not for every Nigerian or it's downfall wont touch every Nigerian. You people and too sad and anti progress and humanity to belong to any sane society. 1 Like |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Rossikk(m): 5:32pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
thoth: It worked for telecoms. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 5:43pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Rossikk: What telecoms? The telecom comps invested in and built their own infrastructures from bottom up, they didn't buy anything from the FG, unless maybe you are talking about Nitel which we all know how its story was written and how it was defrauded through the same bogus and corrupt privatization scam... |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by pssword: 5:43pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
They are refusing to sell to Tinubu |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by iykak47: 5:51pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Billyonaire: If Lagos State is serious, they should rather invest in GENCOs and not DISCOs, who will generate Power for them to Distribute. This is Greediness, Federal Government should not sell any DISCOs to Lagos. When other States were building IPPs, Lagos was busy building Toll-Gates. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by phantom(m): 5:54pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
thoth:you must have fallen from the moon...no offence! |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by phantom(m): 5:56pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
IOMN:i am not an engineer but i have this feeling that the 'solar power' thing is not as easy as you think it is.there is a missing puzzle. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 6:02pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
phantom: you must have fallen from the moon...no offence! The fact that you are too dull and lazy to articulate a suitable response to his points doesn't mean you have to spew the dumb and ignorant trash |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by phantom(m): 6:18pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
eko ilee:cock and bull ! And for the person that liked this post, i can get you free psychiatric consultation. 1 Like |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by phantom(m): 6:22pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
eko ilee:not surprised you didnt understand my reply.if you did, would have been shocked to my bones...lol. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Gbawe: 6:41pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Billyonaire: If Lagos State is serious, they should rather invest in GENCOs and not DISCOs, who will generate Power for them to Distribute. This is Greediness, Federal Government should not sell any DISCOs to Lagos. When other States were building IPPs, Lagos was busy building Toll-Gates. Is there no limit to the lies your sort will tell here just to support/oppose a Party/State/administrator? When I call you all losers you get angry and throw childish tantrums but you forget all the times your fraudulent submissions and blatant lies here mark you out as nothing but losers because you are overly sentimental and never work with facts and on-the-ground reality. How can you being that way then ever predispose you to winning in life? You can hate people but don't lie about them or their effort because you cross over into wickedness doing that. Lagos State, with its proactive leadership seeing it now nominated as one of the most innovative cities of the world, has always exemplarily led the way everywhere. Whether it is PPP, security, efficient tax collection or the methodical approach to securing the greatest IGR increment seen in Nigeria, Lagos has always led the way. Same holds for IPP and people like you only display ignorance and a penchant for wickedness and bad belle mischief with your lies. Some of us, always effective at critical thinking even if we have traditional bias and affiliations, know precisely what we are talking about when we say the FG has always deliberately attempted to undermine the progress of Lagos State. People like you should be ashamed of yourself and how you find it expedient to speak in support of the condemnable practice where an indolent FG acts as if a Nigerian State is its enemy merely because said State is controlled by the opposition. I am ashamed to be called a Nigerian with people like you because, through the grace of God, I am privileged to see first hand how effort is complementary and genuinely National in most countries of the world whereas Nigeria, as usual, must remain aberrant. Stop coming here with lies you are not bright enough to get away with while those who deal with facts are still members of this forum. You will only get discredited and shown up for the liar and ignorant hack that you are. Only God can forgive hateful, wicked and totally amoral liars like you. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/power-again-lagos-sets-the-pace-in-ipp/ Power: Again, Lagos sets the pace in IPP 2 Likes |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 6:48pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
phantom: not surprised you didnt understand my reply.if you did, would have been shocked to my bones...lol. Go away you Dumbo, my comment was too generous sef... Cassava bread dullard... |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Smooyis(m): 7:07pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ewet: WHEN WIL WE SEIZE TO PLAY POLITICS WITH EVRY THNG IN THIS COUNTRY.IF STATES SEE THE NEED TO TAKE POCESSION OF INSFRACTRUCTURE IN THEIR DOMAINS FROM THE FG SO BE IT.IF ANYTHNG GOES WRONG WE WILL KNW WHO TO BLAME.But they control water corporation. Do you get regular water supply in your area? For many areas in Lagos we depend on boreholes and wells. So it is better power distribution is giving to the private bidders for efficient running of the sector. 1 Like |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by Smooyis(m): 7:20pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
ewet: WHEN WIL WE SEIZE TO PLAY POLITICS WITH EVRY THNG IN THIS COUNTRY.IF STATES SEE THE NEED TO TAKE POCESSION OF INSFRACTRUCTURE IN THEIR DOMAINS FROM THE FG SO BE IT.IF ANYTHNG GOES WRONG WE WILL KNW WHO TO BLAME. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ewet: 8:15pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Omexonomy: this is how fash and tinubu took over badagry expresway from fed govt and the expresway as now turn into something else. Only for them to start blaming fg again.You do not hav the details of wht transpired btw the FG and the LASG. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ewet: 8:19pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
taharqa: This is d MOST IGNORANT comment on this thread, in spite of there bn many more of such comments here.... Plz keep yr Mouth SHUT wheneva you dont hv a clue about a tin. Just sm advice And you tht hav a clue abt all. can you please tell me wht the FG is stil doin with the national theater or the national stadium lagos? The FG is in control of so many thngs thy shuld not hve any control over. |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 8:24pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
Smooyis: But they control water corporation. Do you get regular water supply in your area? For many areas in Lagos we depend on boreholes and wells. So it is better power distribution is giving to the private bidders for efficient running of the sector. Ode. You need power and uninterrupted power supply to pump out water non stop. No power, no water. The blame for your water nonsense still belongs to your federal government... |
Re: FG Rejects Lagos’ Offer For Power Distribution Companies by ekoilee: 8:37pm On Apr 24, 2013 |
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