hrhobi1: @Rossick. I want to meet with you, How can I see u ? , I will beat u dead.

Rossikk:

You make fine points, But I tend to see it a bit different. What I think has happened is that each African is essentially two persons rolled into one. Or more accurately one person operating in two worlds, at once concurrently and simultaneously. The first world is the traditional African world in which he would never steal a goat or hen in his village or clan, no matter how hungry he was, and would never dream of looting funds in his Lagos-based village association.

The second world is the imported world of western type schools, bureaucracy, local and state govts, federal govt, labour associations, police, lecturers, ie the world we inhabit on a macro-level. THIS world to the African is easily compromisable compared to the first. This second world is not regarded as sacred. It is seen almost as a violation. An inconvenient imposition. Something to be taken advantage of, even abused, if benefits accrue from so doing. It is almost as if the African is subconsciously rejecting the instruments of his subjugation. Like a stomach rejecting foreign foods, leading to diarrhea.

I think we need a way of indigenising something about the way we do things at the macro level, especially in officialdom, and give it more grassroots credibility by linking it somehow to our traditions and cultural heritage. In Botswana they have a House of Chiefs which must be consulted in all matters pertaining to the population. Botswana - not by accident - is also the least corrupt nation in Africa and among the top economic performers. It is this sort of marriage between indigenous and modern structures that could see us make a real breakthrough in curbing many societal vices, I reckon. We have to reconnect with who we are as Africans, on a macro-level. Link the macro with the micro. So that when you steal at macro level, it brings shame to the micro level. To your village. Today there is a disconnect between the two paradigms. That must change or you can forget about ending corruption and other vices.

Dibiachukwu: EU should shut their pig mouths. Freaking agents. Let them wait till we nationalize all their companies in Africa.

onitshaigbo:

Nigerians have relocated to every country in the world, many of which aren't as good as Nigeria, like Cameroon, Ghana, Benin, Philippines, Thailand...

Ghana can't even be compared with tiny Lagos State, talkless of Federated Republic of Nigeria.

Ironi:

You mean these countries are not as rich as Nigeria. Being good and and being rich are 2 different things.

If the white man discovers and digs oil for a bamboon, the bamboon would be rich, very simple.

You see, your point is exactly what the EU is reiterating, that, Nigeria has no reason to be poor. As a matter of fact they should stop giving assistance to many African countries, Nigeria being first.

Nigerians steal, mismanage and plunder their economy so badly that to me the the EU and other foreign donors to the economy must be real mugus.

It's like encouraging a bamboon to continue misbehaving.

Ironi:

You mean these countries are not as rich as Nigeria. Being good and and being rich are 2 different things.

If the white man discovers and digs oil for a bamboon, the bamboon would be rich, very simple.

You see, your point is exactly what the EU is reiterating, that, Nigeria has no reason to be poor. As a matter of fact they should stop giving assistance to many African countries, Nigeria being first.

Nigerians steal, mismanage and plunder their economy so badly that to me the the EU and other foreign donors to the economy must be real mugus.

It's like encouraging a bamboon to continue misbehaving.

Rossikk: The EU should ask their member, Britain, what she did with all the monies earned from Nigerian exports from 1897 to 1960. If that money had been used to develop Nigeria rather than embezzled and used to develop England, Nigeria would have been as fully developed as South Africa at independence, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. So let them start with their own thievery. We are poor today because we are playing catch up, struggling to build things that should have been built 100 years ago.

A-town:


We are all aware of the problems we face as a nation. The issue here is that we do not need the EU telling us crap that we already know because they started and are still part of the problem.
To answer your earlier question, i don't believe Nigerian leaders are gullible robots. I believe ALL NIGERIANS are gullible robots. The same leaders we are complaining about are part of us. Some of the people on nairaland will eventually hold political positions and still act a fool the same way our leaders are doing now.

The problem is not the leaders but WE the people. We are a nation of "expo" carrying primary through secondary through job interview people and you really expect MAGIC. Wake up

Dibiachukwu: A foreigner comes to your village and you accept him. He then makes it a duty of his to identify scums in the village and give them guns and grenades. The scums terrorize the village with the guns and gets other people by their side with gifts. The foreigner then identifies your differences and amplifies it. Telling each faction that the other faction is no good for him! Promising heaven and earth to the co-operating faction. You fight, and he brings his truck to loot your houses. One scum is then replaced with another scum; because you have to be a scum to meddle with scums. A political class of scums have been created. All of them having a bank account with this degenerate foreigner. This foreigner then convinces these leaders to bank and trade in his currency (backed up by nothing). Then this foreigner starts telling you to kill or deprive your people. If you refuse, he seizes your own money. And if he has access to your food, he poisons it He then appears on your tv and attacks the very politician that refused to do his bidding. Yes our political class are scums, but who bred this particular political class? Where do they send their money, seek asylum, get their arms? This African village manufactures machetes and guns and light arms. However these political elites have access to machine guns and warships and fighter crafts. They have also refused to allow any local production of this weapons! What amazes me, however, is that these villagers (africans), say I should blame this foreigner but blame myself for this mess. Yes I blame the political class for being so stupid, but I blame the foreigner more for using the vulnerable in my village to sabotage me! And it is easier to fight the foreigner than to fight the political elites; who look like me and talk like me. The foreigner stands out. He/she is white. So anywhere I see anything remotely associated to white people, I will oppose it to the best of my ability. You can't bring a war to my village and not expect to be burnt. A racist Africa is a free Africa!

Tracetruth: sorry, the people (missionaries)who brought the gospel of the LORD were not part of the colonial master.

Rossikk:

You need to curb your animal instincts.

A brain transplant might also help.

Rossikk: It is not being colonised that is the issue. The issue is what did the colonialists DO in the respective nations they colonised? In SOME countries they built infrastructure, schools, and created functional institutions which went on to serve those nations after independence. In OTHERS, especially the BLACK nations, all they did was loot, loot, loot and loot. In Nigeria, despite exporting hundreds of billions in today's money worth of resources from 1897 to 1960 they only built ONE university college, not even a full fledged uni. In 63 years of rule. As for roads, power etc, they did virtually nothing. In 1960, after 63 years of British rule, we generated 270 megawatts of electricity. 95 percent of Nigerians had no access to electricity. There was no national grid. Rail. Oh they built a line from Kano to the southern ports for ONE reason, ie to evacuate our resources. At independence, we were just a bush. Today we have advanced a lot and are still advancing, thanks to African rule. The EU can take their 'concern' for our 'plight' and stick it up their round holes.

Rossikk:
Typical dumbed down response. Is colonialism not blaming you? Why should you not blame them back? Are you afraid of them? Are you their slave? Any problems here, they contributed as much to it as anyone else, and still contribute, through the nefarious acts of their multinationals for instance. Do they get a pass because they are white? Not in MY book. Tell me something. Do you think corruption can thrive in Nigeria for one week without the active collaboration of western powers? Do you think those powers don't know where all the money is and how it got there? I mean, and then these people HOLDING YOUR TRILLIONS come to you and start preaching anti-corruption, and you actually listen to them.... ''yes massa, yes massa. We know you're holding our trillions of dollars, but you still love us and have our best interests at heart. We believe you hate our corruption because it is making you far too rich, and we know you hate too much riches, as shown by your history of invading countries only for the purposes of spreading the good news of Jesus Christ and his kingdom. As for our trillions which you hold? It's all yours! Don't worry about it massa! Afterall stolen money that arrives in your soft white hands is automatically cleansed of all its history, by the special grace of Jesus and your white Pope''.

Gullible idiots.

hrhobi1:

Na accident go kill u bloody liar . Son of a demon, saying rubbish at this age.

hrhobi1:

Na accident go kill u bloody liar . Son of a demon, saying rubbish at this age.

Dibiachukwu: EU should shut their pig mouths. Freaking agents. Let them wait till we nationalize all their companies in Africa.

A-town:


The guy dey give you facts, you dey return am with abuse. I was gonna give you the benefit of doubt until i saw your statement about the Ghanian economy doing better than Nigerias'. Return your college certificate to wherever you obtained it from.

yeboyes:

Are you for real? How can you even say that? Nigeria makes more money in one year now than the brits ever stole pre-Independence so why has our leader not used those huge amounts of money to develop Nigeria? This is the same excuse many Africans make but they fail to realize that the problems of their countries are mainly of their own doing.

Below is the picture of a Borno state's politician son sitting on raw cash up to the amount of N100 Million.Is he also British or is it the British that asked his father to steal all that money and horde it in their house?

Is the British that instructs our governors, senators , ministers and president to embezzle government funds and store them in offshore accounts?

Is it the British who instructed Nigerian Governors to use public funds to purchase private jets or buy cars for tuface wife?

Rossik i thought you were a genuine patriotic Nigerian but i am starting to wonder if you are not a Government agent planted here to promote Jonathan's Government. I appreciate your threads which shows pictures of nice places in Nigeria but you will do great damage to your reputation if you continue to peddle lies like unsincere9gerian and his minions.

The same South Africa you are comparing Nigeria has more intelligent leaders than Nigeria. In 2010 ,South Africa suffered minor power problems because their population had grown substantially and their grid was not able to cater for everyone. What did the South African Government do? They built new power plants and set up a program to regulate power usage. Today the power is still on 24 hours a day without a single glitch .Mind you SA makes way less than Nigeria daily.

They did not set up hundred committees or change power ministers like Nigerians. The president simply ordered that new power plants be built and they are being built, no long stories. Yes it is that simple if you have good and intelligent leaders. Providing power for a nation does not require rockets scientist just patriotic and competent people.

So why can’t Nigeria set aside say $20 billion dollar from the money it makes annually to build new coal plant, dam or nuclear plants? Is it the British who is holding us from doing so? Instead we are privatising it and building IPP which will still not be sufficient as they are small scale IPPs.

Jonathan and Nigerian leaders are brain dead. They make simple problems look like complex scientific problems because they are not intelligent or patriotic.I dare say that if had was in power Nigeria will be free of power outages within 18 months. The newly dredged river Niger alone can provide a brand new dam with ship lift like the one in china. We have enough shoreline to build one or two nuclear plants and Niger our neighbor country to the north with supply us with uranium .The northern part of Nigeria is home to a large desert which can easily house massive solar panel plants that will add more power to the grid.

If I was president , I will trim my budget ,cut down Govt officials salaries by 80% and set aside at least $20 billion dollars yearly to pay for these power projects. Within 6 years of my presidency Nigeria will be fully lit for 24 daily.

Enough of blaming the west for everything. Be honest ,man up and admit that we bleeped ourselves up. The same Britain you are talking about is where Nigerians are flocking to for a better life.Since the brits left Nigeria has earned over $600 billion.So pray tell what our leaders have done with that $600 billion to play catch up? Are you saying we not must fix our country because the brits colonized and did not fix our country?

Rossikk: The EU should ask their member, Britain, what she did with all the monies earned from Nigerian exports from 1897 to 1960. If that money had been used to develop Nigeria rather than embezzled and used to develop England, Nigeria would have been as fully developed as South Africa at independence, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. So let them start with their own thievery. We are poor today because we are playing catch up, struggling to build things that should have been built 100 years ago.

modextus: lol dreamer

israel ben-zion:

Are u for real? U expect a colonial master to take d blame for our sorry state today? What did u tink was his intention in colonizing us in d first place? Benevolence? Or a cold drive for their own economic betterment? And since they left, has enuf time not passed for u to set abt repairing any damage u think they wrought? I believe u just read Walter Rodney's defeatist and laziness-encouraging book " How Europe Underdeveloped Africa". Wake up man. Take ur destiny in ur hands. We weren't d first to suffer colonization: but we r yet d last to rise frm it, always wallowing in unhelpful self-pity.

israel ben-zion:

Are u for real? U expect a colonial master to take d blame for our sorry state today? What did u tink was his intention in colonizing us in d first place? Benevolence? Or a cold drive for their own economic betterment? And since they left, has enuf time not passed for u to set abt repairing any damage u think they wrought? I believe u just read Walter Rodney's defeatist and laziness-encouraging book " How Europe Underdeveloped Africa". Wake up man. Take ur destiny in ur hands. We weren't d first to suffer colonization: but we r yet d last to rise frm it, always wallowing in unhelpful self-pity.

Rossikk: Next time, use your tiny brain to decipher all that's been typed on a thread before contributing your beer parlour garbage.

sucess001:


you couldnt have put it better.

Rossikk: Not sure what hole you sneaked out of to infest this thread, slaveboy. Why don't you sneak back in there, and while you're at it, buy a padlock for your lips and a whip for your back. Massa needs his implements. Oh, and we call them university degrees, not 'university certificates'. School dropout pretending to know.