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TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by RickyRoss1(m): 3:35pm On May 09, 2013
Sometimes I wonder if Jesus was walking the land of Jerusalem today if he would be on TV. Would CNN, Al-Jazeera, BBC and the other popular networks broadcast his ministry and miracles live? Would he be like Rev. Benny Hinn, donning a $50,000 Rolex watch or like Prophet T. B. Joshua, with a flashy Nollywood smile and a cool $20 million in the bank? Would the savior of mankind, live in a sprawling 15-bedroom mansion? Would Jesus ride to miracle healing crusades in his own private Jet with all the pomp and showmanship?

I have no doubt millions of eyes would be glued to TV sets as he performed the miracle of feeding 5,000 hungry mouths with only five loaves of bread. Would he prophesy the results of soccer matches and the death of presidents? What would he say about modern prophets like Jesus One Touch? Would he silently ignore them or lash out with the flash of a whip and the sharpness of rebuke?

All humans want to know the unknown, or even the unknowable. We are wired by God to want to know what tomorrow holds. It is probably why we are so fascinated by those who claim to know the future or who claim to possess the gift of prophecy. At the birth of 2013, one of Africa’s popular ‘men of God’, the Nigerian Prophet T. B. Joshua issued his prophecy for the New Year, as usual. My childhood friend, Fiifi, who follows and hangs on to every word the Yoruba miracle worker says, told me about the prophecies. I decided to check them out. Fiifi’s passion was too strong to ignore.

T. B. Joshua prophesied that “many great, famous, rich men and politicians will become helpless and in need of help in matters of sickness, disease, finances and death”. I looked at Fiifi in amazement, as to why he believed this was a prophecy. This is not a prophecy but a generalized statement. There are thousands of famous and great men in the world, so naturally some would get into trouble. Every week some famous person dies or gets into trouble around the world. In the USA alone, for instance, some star or famous person gets into trouble almost every day. If I say there is going to be a storm in the USA that is going to cause destruction this year, it is not a prophecy. It is a simple geographical fact.

Psychics and con artists use these tricks all the time. They tell you there is a man in your family named Mensah trying to harm you spiritually. Of course, they know almost everybody in Ghana has a Mensah in their family or knows one who is close. Do people believe these fake prophets because they desperately want a miracle in their life so badly that a fake miracle is better than no miracle? Well, a fake miracle is no miracle. A fake miracle is like the ostrich solution to problems, it is the alcoholic’s solution to problems. Once you are drunk, the problem disappears. However, the problem reappears when the drunken stupor fades off. This is not a solution, it is denial and lying to oneself.

T. B. Joshua’s other prophecy tickled me blue. He said, “Those in the foodstuff business will have a field day this year. Farming and agriculture will be the order of the day and will help greatly to be the source of solution this year. People engaged in it will be greatly blessed,” Why would anyone consider this a prophecy? Is this over-baked, redundant, recycled financial advice or what? Last year a cargo plane crashed in Accra, the Melcolm building collapsed but Joshua did not see it to warn us. What is the purpose of these ‘prophesies’ if it serves no purpose and helps nobody? Where is the next Tsunami going to be? That’s what we want to know, so we can be ready.

Can Temitope Joshua prophesy the Boston bombing next time before it happens, rather than ‘predicting’ it after it has happened? If he had prophesied the Boston Marathon bombing, his name would be on every major network in the world. Oprah, CNN, NBC,New York Times and all the big networks would be at his door begging for an interview. He did not prophesy the Boston bombing. That is the fact that the whole world knows except the gullible followers of Joshua in Ghana and Nigeria.

People like TB Joshua and their fake miracles thrive in non-questioning, semi-literate societies, where superstition is rife even among the educated. Why would the great omnipotent Jehovah reveal such useless prophecies? These prophecies are definitely not from God. They are from the demented mind of one who seeks fame and money and know how to manipulate a society of gullible zombies.

Joshua did not prophesy the Melcolm building collapsing which would have saved many lives. Neither did he prophesy the crashing of a cargo plane into a bus at Kotoka Airport. When Accra Sports stadium collapsed, he did not see it. Even when President Mills was stricken with cancer and on the verge of death, he did not see it. When a tsunami devastated Japan, Joshua did not see it. God does not show Joshua revelations that would save lives. God only reveals soccer scores, election results and mushed-up general statements that help no one. Attributing these cheap ‘revelations’ to God is blasphemy. Yahweh, the creator of the universe, with billions of stars and galaxies, cannot do better than giving useless financial advice?

Joseph in the Bible interpreted dreams that averted a famine and saved the lives of millions of people. Moses saved many Israelites from the plagues that devastated Pharoah, because his predictions came true and were time specific.

How would such prophesies be received in educated countries like Germany, Canada or Japan? Nobody in any developed, educated world of critically thinking people would see Balogun Joshua’s statement as prophecies. However, among many Africans, these are words from the Almighty Yahweh himself. Joshua is sleek, shrewd and a good stage magician, who can fool millions of gullible, desperate Africans. He has amassed wealth to the tune of $20 million. Needless, to say, he has tricked his way into great wealth. Man can be fooled, but the most sophisticated sakawa, 419 tactics cannot trick God. Just like Obinim, Jesus One Touch, Bishop Eddie Long and all the many false prophets had come crashing down, time would show that Bishop Temitope Balogun Joshua cannot trick God.

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Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by splashbaby(m): 4:09pm On May 09, 2013
Interesting article...Over to you TB Joshua people...these Ghanaian people dey para ooo
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 6:17pm On May 09, 2013
I dont like speaking about so called pastors. Because i myself am a bible believing christian. But if i see a fake man of God and am very much conviced he is fake, then i will speak so that men will not be deceived.

As for TB Joshua, he is as fake as satan himself. He worships satan. That am very sure. I hav watched and heard him preached...and his way of carrying deliverance, both on youtube, an i realised convincenly that he is into occultism.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by shairgoon: 7:47pm On May 09, 2013
please
peteregwu: I dont like speaking about so called pastors. Because i myself am a bible believing christian. But if i see a fake man of God and am very much conviced he is fake, then i will speak so that men will not be deceived.

As for TB Joshua, he is as fake as satan himself. He worships satan. That am very sure. I hav watched and heard him preached...and his way of carrying deliverance, both on youtube, an i realised convincenly that he is into occultism.
judge not
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 8:11pm On May 09, 2013
shairgoon: please judge not

My friend be afraid of nothing when u are very sure of what u are saying. Am bold to say ot. The bible says judge righteously...and d bible says by their fruits, ye shall know them.

If u son lie or do something wrong, what will u do? Will not caution him and rebuke him for the wrong. We only speak by what we have seen and not by what we dont see. Have u searched for tb joshua on youtube lately? The way of his deliverance, how they throw people into water claiming they will be delivered by it. U need to search for it on youtube. If u want me, i can even post it here for.

And if u are a membef of that church, h better leav an pray to the Lord reveal where u can serve in truth and spirit.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by shairgoon: 3:47am On May 10, 2013
To start with, i am a redeemer RCCG. When i meant dont judge i saying each n every one of us will face judgement so why go about judging ur fellow human when you havenot known what God will count against u on d last day MATTHEW7:4
Yes Paul said If any one preach a different gospel different from what he taught such a person should be cursed
But remember, Jesus said
LET HE WITH OUT SIN BE THE FIRST TO CAST THE STONE
http:///YostA1
The above link is my gospel page pls do join
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by biafranqueen: 7:04am On May 10, 2013
He asked a question if JC was here would he live the same life style as the above mentioned?
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 12:00pm On May 10, 2013
shairgoon: To start with, i am a redeemer RCCG. When i meant dont judge i saying each n every one of us will face judgement so why go about judging ur fellow human when you havenot known what God will count against u on d last day MATTHEW7:4
Yes Paul said If any one preach a different gospel different from what he taught such a person should be cursed
But remember, Jesus said
LET HE WITH OUT SIN BE THE FIRST TO CAST THE STONE
http:///YostA1
The above link is my gospel page pls do join


I SEE...PEOOLE LIKE U ARE THE ONES THAT WILL PREACH AND NOT PREACH AGAINST SIN ABI? JUST BECAUSE EVERYONE IS A SINNER, MY FRIEND U ARE DONT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE. AS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN YOU FREE FROM SIN AND STAND IN THE POSITION TO SPEAK AGAINST SIN. IF U DONT CONDEMN SIN, THEN U WILL END UP BEING CONDEMNED BY IT. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH MOST CHRISTIANS TODAY. WHRN U STAND TO PREACH AGAINSG LEING AND FORNICATION, THEY WILK SAY U ARE JUDGING. This is just lack of knowledge. When u see someone in the wrong direction, and u dont want to correct him, so long u know the truth and u refuse to speak against it. Then the blood of that person will be on your head. That is what the bible says.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by shairgoon: 2:38am On May 11, 2013
yeah, what you said so far has point but who has made u judge over men. Judge ur 1st
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by 2cassavasticks: 3:59am On May 11, 2013
Op How can you say that TB Joshua tricked God, Don't you know that TB Joshua is God?
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by abu0710102013: 8:55am On May 11, 2013
i wonder if christains read the bible. mattew 24 vs 24
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by shairgoon: 4:12pm On May 11, 2013
2cassava sticks: Op How can you say that TB Joshua tricked God, Don't you know that TB Joshua is God?
2cassava sticks: Op How can you say that TB Joshua tricked God, Don't you know that TB Joshua is God?
2cassava sticks: Op How can you say that TB Joshua tricked God, Don't you know that TB Joshua is God?
WHAT! DID U JUST SAY jOSHUA IS GOD.
AND WAIT PLEASE CHANGE THIS SICK MOTIVE TB CAN NEVER I REPEAT NEVER DECIEVE GOD WHO IS HE. IF SATAN CANT DO THAT. RATHER YOU CAN SAY HE IS DECIEVING HIS FELLOW HUMAN
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by RickyRoss1(m): 4:32pm On May 11, 2013
For the records, I did not write this article, I saw it on a Ghanaian forum and posted it here because I disliked the way Ghanians were insulting Nigerians and TB Joshua on that forum.

I do not worship at TB Joshua church but I believe that TB Joshua is not fake. I say what I know. I don't believe in hearsays. I know so many people who got healing at TB Joshua church. One of my village girl was healed of breast Cancer. One Warri guy I know in Ghana was told by Ghanaian doctors that his son would die within 30 days if they don't fly him to UK for surgery, the 4 year old boy had brain tumor. The father is my friend and he tried so hard to raise up to 30,000 Dollars for the surgery without success, someone told him to take the son to TB Joshua church and the wise-men healed the boy. This happened about 4 years ago and the boy is very healthy. There are just too many instances. Believe me I used to think all those things they show on Emmanuel TB was staged and fake, but I know people that were about to die but got their healing there. What I don't know is the source of TB Joshua power. And it is only God who can judge all of us. How can I say he is using juju or witchcraft when I don't know what my own church pastor is using? Only God knows who is fake and who is real.

Most people who accuse TB are either ignorant or jealous. In Black Africa if you are successful people will be jealous and they will gossip till infinity. If it is true that TB Joshua is using juju then that juju is very good juju. This juju that is healing people of incurable diseases, the same juju is giving thousands of people scholarships, same juju is feeding thousands of people around the world etc. Abeg that kind juju is good.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by shairgoon: 5:40pm On May 11, 2013
Ricky_Ross: For the records, I did not write this article, I saw it on a Ghanaian forum and posted it here because I disliked the way Ghanians were insulting Nigerians and TB Joshua on that forum.

I do not worship at TB Joshua church but I believe that TB Joshua is not fake. I say what I know. I don't believe in hearsays. I know so many people who got healing at TB Joshua church. One of my village girl was healed of breast Cancer. One Warri guy I know in Ghana was told by Ghanaian doctors that his son would die within 30 days if they don't fly him to UK for surgery, the 4 year old boy had brain tumor. The father is my friend and he tried so hard to raise up to 30,000 Dollars for the surgery without success, someone told him to take the son to TB Joshua church and the wise-men healed the boy. This happened about 4 years ago and the boy is very healthy. There are just too many instances. Believe me I used to think all those things they show on Emmanuel TB was staged and fake, but I know people that were about to die but got their healing there. What I don't know is the source of TB Joshua power. And it is only God who can judge all of us. How can I say he is using juju or witchcraft when I don't know what my own church pastor is using? Only God knows who is fake and who is real.

Most people who accuse TB are either ignorant or jealous. In Black Africa if you are successful people will be jealous and they will gossip till infinity. If it is true that TB Joshua is using juju then that juju is very good juju. This juju that is healing people of incurable diseases, the same juju is giving thousands of people scholarships, same juju is feeding thousands of people around the world etc. Abeg that kind juju is good.
It now i understand u. Jesus has said it
Ricky_Ross: For the records, I did not write this article, I saw it on a Ghanaian forum and posted it here because I disliked the way Ghanians were insulting Nigerians and TB Joshua on that forum.

I do not worship at TB Joshua church but I believe that TB Joshua is not fake. I say what I know. I don't believe in hearsays. I know so many people who got healing at TB Joshua church. One of my village girl was healed of breast Cancer. One Warri guy I know in Ghana was told by Ghanaian doctors that his son would die within 30 days if they don't fly him to UK for surgery, the 4 year old boy had brain tumor. The father is my friend and he tried so hard to raise up to 30,000 Dollars for the surgery without success, someone told him to take the son to TB Joshua church and the wise-men healed the boy. This happened about 4 years ago and the boy is very healthy. There are just too many instances. Believe me I used to think all those things they show on Emmanuel TB was staged and fake, but I know people that were about to die but got their healing there. What I don't know is the source of TB Joshua power. And it is only God who can judge all of us. How can I say he is using juju or witchcraft when I don't know what my own church pastor is using? Only God knows who is fake and who is real.

Most people who accuse TB are either ignorant or jealous. In Black Africa if you are successful people will be jealous and they will gossip till infinity. If it is true that TB Joshua is using juju then that juju is very good juju. This juju that is healing people of incurable diseases, the same juju is giving thousands of people scholarships, same juju is feeding thousands of people around the world etc. Abeg that kind juju is good.
It now i understand u. Jesus has said it
Ricky_Ross: For the records, I did not write this article, I saw it on a Ghanaian forum and posted it here because I disliked the way Ghanians were insulting Nigerians and TB Joshua on that forum.

I do not worship at TB Joshua church but I believe that TB Joshua is not fake. I say what I know. I don't believe in hearsays. I know so many people who got healing at TB Joshua church. One of my village girl was healed of breast Cancer. One Warri guy I know in Ghana was told by Ghanaian doctors that his son would die within 30 days if they don't fly him to UK for surgery, the 4 year old boy had brain tumor. The father is my friend and he tried so hard to raise up to 30,000 Dollars for the surgery without success, someone told him to take the son to TB Joshua church and the wise-men healed the boy. This happened about 4 years ago and the boy is very healthy. There are just too many instances. Believe me I used to think all those things they show on Emmanuel TB was staged and fake, but I know people that were about to die but got their healing there. What I don't know is the source of TB Joshua power. And it is only God who can judge all of us. How can I say he is using juju or witchcraft when I don't know what my own church pastor is using? Only God knows who is fake and who is real.

Most people who accuse TB are either ignorant or jealous. In Black Africa if you are successful people will be jealous and they will gossip till infinity. If it is true that TB Joshua is using juju then that juju is very good juju. This juju that is healing people of incurable diseases, the same juju is giving thousands of people scholarships, same juju is feeding thousands of people around the world etc. Abeg that kind juju is good.
It now i understand u. Jesus has said it people come to because of miracle if u say he is good because of miracle then what of Rev King
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by sakaguchi(m): 6:21pm On May 11, 2013
biafranqueen: He asked a question if JC was here would he live the same life style as the above mentioned?
To answer your question, I don't think Jesus christ would live an opulent life-style should he have lived in this century. When he walked this earth several years ago, he lived an austere life-style even if no man before him could perform the science defying fits he did perform. People lived the large life in his time but he chose not to, he rather prioritized his mission and went about doing good.

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Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by sakaguchi(m): 6:27pm On May 11, 2013
peteregwu: I dont like speaking about so called pastors. Because i myself am a bible believing christian. But if i see a fake man of God and am very much conviced he is fake, then i will speak so that men will not be deceived.

As for TB Joshua, he is as fake as satan himself. He worships satan. That am very sure. I hav watched and heard him preached...and his way of carrying deliverance, both on youtube, an i realised convincenly that he is into occultism.
Though I'm not very religious,the miracles of TB Joshua are real as I have seen living proofs of it. Secondly, the disciples of christ were tagged baalzebub and even He Himself was not unscathed. So your name calling isn't new, people 2000 years before you did same things to He that you profess Lord today.

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Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by shairgoon: 11:39am On Aug 09, 2013
gud answer
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by Nobody: 1:57pm On Aug 09, 2013
peteregwu: I dont like speaking about so called pastors. Because i myself am a bible believing christian. But if i see a fake man of God and am very much conviced he is fake, then i will speak so that men will not be deceived.

As for TB Joshua, he is as fake as satan himself. He worships satan. That am very sure. I hav watched and heard him preached...and his way of carrying deliverance, both on youtube, an i realised convincenly that he is into occultism.
...and your Lazarus isn't fake,right? It's funny that u who wud write long,tiring epistles in defence of your mog are quick to condemn another mog.u xtians never cease to amaze me.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 4:42pm On Aug 09, 2013
Beretta92: ...and your Lazarus isn't fake,right? It's funny that u who wud write long,tiring epistles in defence of your mog are quick to condemn another mog.u xtians never cease to amaze me.

if u like believe or not, their ways reminds me of white garment church where i came out from. they sell anointing oil and water from the church. they put people in water bath for deliverance. pls i say what i know. that is a way of initiating people into marine kingdom. pastor lazarus foundation and belief is on the WORD OF TRUTH, he makes open wat sin is and condemns it and he also does nt touch people while prayin, he only prays from distance.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by sakaguchi(m): 9:25pm On Aug 09, 2013
@peter Egwu
Bros, jesus christ touch people when he healed them, he even use mud to heal the blind, Elisha told a certain king to go immerse himself in a river, so what are you saying.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by sakaguchi(m): 3:27am On Aug 10, 2013
For it is written 'touch not my annointed and do my prophet no harm' if TBJ is fake is left for God to judge and not for any man to say base on his hunch, while jesus christ was leaving he told his disciples that "if you believe you will do even greater than what I've done" I'm not justifying his actions, neither am I condemning him but whether he is real or fake it is left for God, but if he is actually real and you term him 'fake' then you may unleash the wrath of God on you.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by Nobody: 7:46am On Aug 10, 2013
This peter ugwu fellow is one bloody and arrogant hypocrite!! He is fond of critisizing others but resorts to threats and tantantrums when criticisms are directed @ his church.

Your attitude in this forum is so repulsive and gives a feel of what you are in real life.A hypocrital fundamentalist.

Shame on you!!
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 8:36am On Aug 10, 2013
sakaguchi: @peter Egwu
Bros, jesus christ touch people when he healed them, he even use mud to heal the blind, Elisha told a certain king to go immerse himself in a river, so what are you saying.

forget that thing my brother, if you like go their, they will initiate you without you knowing it. my grandfather was a herbalist, I spent 20yrs in white garment. u think am a jjc for this world. they wil sel anointing oil and water for u they have initiated in their coven for u to buy. hmmm...people cant even pray for God to reveal the power behind a man of God to them, they just com here to talk. a man thats always prophecying about football. hmmm...what has God got to do with football,what about eternal life and heaven and the dangere of hell fire. he always gives message of doom.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 8:46am On Aug 10, 2013
chukwudi44: This peter ugwu fellow is one bloody and arrogant hypocrite!! He is fond of critisizing others but resorts to threats and tantantrums when criticisms are directed @ his church.

Your attitude in this forum is so repulsive and gives a feel of what you are in real life.A hypocrital fundamentalist.

Shame on you!!

hmmm...am not arrogant. take it easy abeg, and don't it easy abet and dont reign curses on me. just because I speak against Joshua and his church is based on what I have watched so far in their church. pls I speak what I know and not what I don't know. look at deeper life the way they worship, everything is by faith and the word of God, and even my church, the Lords chosen, apostolic faith etc a church that one will go and they begin to sell agbo (oil and water), so that people will drink and become initiated. in fact I hate churches like that. go a herbalist, he will do the same thing to you, that is their way.
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by helpee(m): 8:25am On Aug 11, 2013
peteregwu:

hmmm...am not arrogant. take it easy abeg, and don't it easy abet and dont reign curses on me. just because I speak against Joshua and his church is based on what I have watched so far in their church. pls I speak what I know and not what I don't know. look at deeper life the way they worship, everything is by faith and the word of God, and even my church, the Lords chosen, apostolic faith etc a church that one will go and they begin to sell agbo (oil and water), so that people will drink and become initiated. in fact I hate churches like that. go a herbalist, he will do the same thing to you, that is their way.
I am beginning to dislike you. You are so hypocritical and the more I read about your post, the more convinced I am that THE LORD CHOSEN can't be a true church. U are so quick to criticise others while claiming your CHOSEN God is a saint. If TB joshua comes out to say that YOUR SO CALLED CULTIST PASTOR is a true man GOD, u will start praising him that it is God that showed it to him. What is the differnce between those selling oil and ur pastor that sells dirty aprons. I will rather believe TB joshua than a pastor that told his members to pray in a strange name; GOd OF CHOSEN, GOD of my pastor. Rubbish
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by Nobody: 9:03am On Aug 11, 2013
Hmn, this is interesting. . . .
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by Nobody: 9:29am On Aug 11, 2013
Hmmm...
Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by Nobody: 9:58am On Aug 11, 2013
has anybody noticed that tb Joshua and all his wise men always wear black inner vase? or I'm the only one huli... ting??

Re: TB Joshua, The Man Who Tricked God? by peteregwu(m): 8:37pm On Aug 11, 2013
helpee: I am beginning to dislike you. You are so hypocritical and the more I read about your post, the more convinced I am that THE LORD CHOSEN can't be a true church. U are so quick to criticise others while claiming your CHOSEN God is a saint. If TB joshua comes out to say that YOUR SO CALLED CULTIST PASTOR is a true man GOD, u will start praising him that it is God that showed it to him. What is the differnce between those selling oil and ur pastor that sells dirty aprons. I will rather believe TB joshua than a pastor that told his members to pray in a strange name; GOd OF CHOSEN, GOD of my pastor. Rubbish

the ball is in your court time will tel. a pastor that preaches against sin consistently, and preaches righteousnes and holines( pastor lazaurus and kumuyi does) has Jesus inside of him. but tb reminds me of white garment church where I was before.

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