Mr anony:
My dear frosbel, you are yet to answer my question:

This is interesting: Now here's what I want to ask you: Where do you draw the line between [b]worship and obeisance? What is the difference?
Once you tell me, we will check to see if Jesus was worshiped or paid obeisance to.[/b]


It is still waiting there for you whenever you choose to answer it.

Image123:
Unfortunately, frosb will ignore such questions that can help him until time 'covers' it, I wonder how his conscience copes.

Boomark:

John 4:21-25

New King James Version (NKJV)

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

25 The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.”

Read carefully this english words and see who the isrealites worship, who Christ said we should worship, who is seeking true worshipers, who reconciled us to himself through Christ-Col 1:19-20, 2cor 5:18-21(do you know what this means?), who we all go to through Christ(Jn14:6). It is either you obey Christ, through whom God has called you for reconciliation and while doing so you are obeying the will of the Father cos Christ brought the will of the father to us. Do you disagree? Don't deceive your self by running around these things. you are not doing it for me.

Look! see! they also know about the coming Messiah-Christ.
You have heard from the Master...Worship God

Boomark:

Have you also wondered if the isralites were taught by the prophets to worship man when you see things like " a ruler came and worshiped Him, saying, “My daughter has just died" what did he actually said while worshiping him?

Definition of worship
noun

1 the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity:the worship of God ancestor worship
2 the acts or rites that make up a formal expression of reverence for a deity; a religious ceremony or ceremonies:the church was opened for public worship
3 adoration or devotion comparable to religious homage, shown toward a person or principle:our society’s worship of teenagers
4 archaic honor given to someone in recognition of their merit.
[as title] (His/Your Worship) chiefly British used in addressing or referring to an important or high-ranking person, especially a magistrate or mayor:we were soon joined by His Worship the Mayor

Compare these things to the worship given to God which must be in spirit and in truth.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
really? What does the word "god" mean?

Am I not? But wait, is a belief in the trinity a prerequisite for salvation?

Mr anony:
No you aren't. A knowledge of Trinity is not necessarily a prerequisite for salvation, however a good understanding of the nature of God is important for one to grasp the significance of his/her salvation

frosbel:

which is why the trinity is a non-starter.

Mr anony:
My dear frosbel, you are yet to answer my question:

....Where do you draw the line between worship and obeisance? What is the difference?
Once you tell me, we will check to see if Jesus was worshiped or paid obeisance to.


It is still waiting there for you whenever you choose to answer it.

truthislight:

And the word "christ and massaiah" both means Annointed one.

Who did the annointting ?

*well, be my guest, what happened the day he was baptised ?*

frosbel:
don't flatter yourself and pretend that I have not responded to this question.

Check the dictionary for the meaning of those words , I am sure you know how to use one .

frosbel:

don't flatter yourself and pretend that I have not responded to this question.

Check the dictionary for the meaning of those words , I am sure you know how to use one .

shdemidemi:

If you cannot understand, it makes it impossible for God, right? Why don't you worry about how the sun seem to hang in the sky amongst many other divine works visible to you? JESUS IS GOD.

shdemidemi:

If you cannot understand, it makes it impossible for God, right? Why don't you worry about how the sun seem to hang in the sky amongst many other divine works visible to you? JESUS IS GOD.

shdemidemi: John 20:28
New International Version (NIV)
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

frosbel:

Has it now come to this ? Taking random verses out of context to prove a PAGAN creed.

If I was you I will revisit this doctrine and do some real Berean study, I was like you a few years ago and fought Muslims atheists and others to death on this topic , until I decided to perform a study and wow !!

Stop dribbling your brain bro and insulting logic.

shdemidemi:

Hmmm you! Mentioning yourself and study in the same sentence ..ok o

shdemidemi: Hebrews 1:8
New International Version (NIV)
8 But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

shdemidemi: Psalm 45:6
New International Version (NIV)
6 Your throne, O God,[a] will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

frosbel:

and then in next verse Heb 1:9

"You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy." - Heb 1:9

Does GOD have a GOD.

answer me quick

frosbel:

How can God have a GOD ? Heb 1:9

shdemidemi:

I am not here to argue, I am quite sure you saw the verse where it says Christ humbled himself as a man like you and I. He constantly reverenced with God who remains a part of the Godhead.

shdemidemi: Isaiah 44:6
New International Version (NIV)
The Lord, Not Idols

6 “This is what the Lord says—
Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.

shdemidemi: Revelation 1:17-18
New International Version (NIV)
17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.