m.k.o2005:

Now another topic ! That quotation is for those who do not think that punishment or discipline is allowed in the church !
Now below is for pple like you frosbel who also do not think that when you dnt obey authorities of men placed above you,that God will be happy with u and and give u a path on the back. See below instruction from the the scriptures:
''Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God''.-Romans 13:1

busolayemi: Frosbel answer me o....cos he b like say na u this thing hit pass

slimyem: Mtcheeeeeew. Rubbish!!
Pray and seek forgiveness for doing what?
Na John and Love get time sha.

frosbel:

answer you

On what ?

undi-geh:


Because they don want to make it to Heaven. But you , watin you sabi? to enjoy life carelessly without control and without God here on earth briefly and go to spend live without end in hell without mercy.
Better tink well now for your self.

busolayemi: is sumtin wrong with plesing men while also plesing God?

nora544: This new churches - how old is deeper life and the other ones there leader are heros they can make what they want and it is not good when you say something against this so called man of god.
read this it is from an other so called man of good

No tithe, no wedding Pastor Adeboye - so people who have no money and who are poor cannot come to his church, and Couples who have to feed there children but have no money to tithe are not welcome - so they are no true beliver in god - is this what the bible teach us - so the redempton church is only for the rich not for the poor - that is not what i read in the bible or is the james bible in Africa different than the same bible in Europa - did he not read what is written under
thimothy 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

the bible teach us to give what we can, and not this what this so called man of god teach to his followers, we should give to the poor, i look and read very much about this so called man of god but i never hear from them that we should give to the poor, the people they need, why can anyone tell me this or can give me an answer.

Members of the fastest growing church in Africa, The Redeemed Christian Church of God are in shock as their respected General Overseer, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, has decreed that defaulters in the payment of tithe would no longer enjoy their marriage being blessed by the church. It was gathered that during the last Holy Ghost convention that held between August 9 -15, 2010, at the Redeemed camp, Pastor Adeboye had a private meeting with his senior pastors where he told them to inform their parish members that henceforth, anybody who does not pay his or her tithe is not faithful and as such will not get any assistance from the church. Furthermore, he stated that it will be a major criterion for ordaining pastors. If you want to be ordained as a pastor and you default in this area you will be disqualified. This includes deacons and deaconesses. Also if you want to get married in the church, your tithe record will be the deciding factor. Parish members were informed that from their head assemblies, they will send their tithe envelopes for upward review at the headquarters. Pastor Adeboye said this new rule will show the members obedience to the church and to God.

I want to know what a good fearing woman from an Redeemed Christian church of god has to wear on her weddingday please can you tell me i want to know.

The problem from nigeria is the religion and the so called man of good and what they tell there followers. I have many friends from different christian churches but most of them say that how the nigerian christian people belive in god that comes from america and not all what comes from this country is good.
Nigerian people belive this so called man of god blind, that is the problem they don't read the bible, but what they are doing is the worship there heros this so called great man of god, they don't worship the real god and this so call great man of god can make what they want.

When there is a problem always come pray and fast.

Pastor adeboye say something bad will come, but he cannot tell the people what it is but it is bad but when they are pray and fast very much the hole year than it will not come, sorry that is brasinwashing.

the same is with this wedding i see nothing bad on this wedding dress.

Can anyone tell me which other churches in nigeria look at the wedding dress before the wedding please i want to know.

Read animal farm from georg orwell then you will see how this big heros are acting not better than the pigs in this book.

The wedding toke place in an other church because this deeper life church is no church in jamaica from the goverment the same is in my country.

What is with music on a wedding is this also not allowed.

The pastors tell the people don't come with a red dress, or a blue or a white so when i don't have a dress in this color than i have to stay at home and i cannot come to the church sorry that has nothing to do that i am a real follower of god.

This so called great man of god are dictators and not more.

busolayemi: yes..i have always maintained that i don't see what they hve done wrong against God's commandments...but who knows, at lest they know best if they've wronged God and yes, every orgnistion either spiritual, devilish or physical has its rules...if you are going to continue as member, you strictly hve to abide else use the door....and if intentionally or otherwise you go against the rule, you must apologise and be punnished if the ledership deem fit

frosbel:

The actual word used in the original translations is to lead not lord it over God's sheep. They are to gently lead the flock of GOD within the boundaries of their GOD given assignement.

In other words, they are not to burden the sheep with man made rules and traditions, after all the sheep belong to GOD not to these MEN.

"Jesus called them together and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them.Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant," - Matthew 20:25-26

My friend, how can one lead without authority. Power and authority do not exist in isolation to one another.
Go back to your bible preferably the Authorised Version popularly called King James Version(KJV).if you must contribute from the scripture.
Your Bible should not be less than N7000.00 . I can see you opening your mouth in shock.

I am sure you will not want to argue with the word from JESUS himself.

kefmawin: I think the moderators here are up to something by their unreasonable repetition of what has since been laid to rest.
I smell foul in this whole discussion.
Even though I do not encourage people to exalt a denomination, I must say that this looks like a calculated attempt to rubbish a church that sincerely follows the word of God to the best of their understanding irrespective of who is hurt. Though we may all have our different views.

This thread was earlier discussed on this link :
https://www.nairaland.com/1341869/pastor-kumuyis-son-apologises-deeper-life/18

Here many comments were made which should have ended this matter. I sense mischief and it seems Nairaland specializes in posing affronts to the ministers of God and the church of the Living God.

Remember you may answer for everything you say or do.
The so-called christians who take delight in all these and bring up threads that encourage others who no nothing about the christian faith to blaspheme should beware as this is not healthy for their spiritual and physical well being.

What is the purpose of bringing up this discussion again after it has been trashed out on the below link? :
https://www.nairaland.com/1341869/pastor-kumuyis-son-apologises-deeper-life/18

Could this be joblessness or calculated attempt to defame a church known for their emphasis on The totality of the word and Holiness without which no man shall see God?

Enough of this absurdity.
The most important thing is for everyone of us to evaluate our personal stand with God. Should you get to the end of your life here on earth where will you spend your eternity?

The one who go to church and still practices sin is doomed (Revelation 21:8,27; Ephesians 5:3-7 ).
The one who is wise will examine himself and where in doubt quickly repent and accept His grace and mercy by putting faith in Christ for real salvation and life transformation.

Be wise friends so that you do not begin to cry for mercy when it is too late. This is the day of salvation. Let the scorners and scoffers continue but time shall tell.

Love you all

Kaysalas:

it took a while to get you to agree on the text, now you come come with "avoiding flamboyance". there is no where being 'UNkempt' comes into this, 2 peter 1 v 20, don't you think if peter had meant flamboyance and invariably preaching modesty, he would have just said so; Are you saying that after admonishing women to dress in modest apparel, he still went ahead to tell them not to be "immodest/flamboyant" as you put it. Well, read more objectively, thimothy here, is giving examples in concrete terms what should and what should not be done:
1 Timothy 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

biolabee:

Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

undi-geh:


Because they don want to make it to Heaven. But you , watin you sabi? to enjoy life carelessly without control and without God here on earth briefly and go to spend live without end in hell without mercy.
Better tink well now for your self.

busolayemi: What makes you think d apology is eyeservice...and even if it is, they ar kool with it...so why should it be our headache

To the best of my knowledge,countless lives who attend their programs have been transformed positively. Armed robbers, humanizers, Chain smokers, prostitutes, drunkards, the down trodden, the rich, the poor and so on have been transformed by Christ and turned a new live noticeable to their previous acquaintance. Or do we talk about the countless Lives God has graciously healed from ailments such as: HIV, Cancer, Barrenness, Blindness, Lameness, deafness,cripple etc.

If we take time to understand the Fad and Jagons that have entered many churches and assemblies today you'll almost weep. Churches no longer stand for anything but rather falls for everything the world presents.

The Church is the Bride of Christ and must be different from the fallen world systems and standard.
If you are sure that as a christian you can defend your present actions before God when you meet Him at the end of life fine. Otherwise you can run to Christ by accepting Him as your personal Lord and Saviour and receive the grace to live for Him Ephesians 2:8 ).
The true mark of being a Christian is that your life is transformed by the grace of God which brings a clear difference between your conduct and the world. If this is not the case with you, it is not late to make amends by coming to the throne of Grace to obtain mercy(Hebrew 4:12) before it becomes late.

Kaysalas:

it took a while to get you to agree on the text, now you come come with "avoiding flamboyance". there is no where being 'UNkempt' comes into this, 2 peter 1 v 20, don't you think if peter had meant flamboyance and invariably preaching modesty, he would have just said so; Are you saying that after admonishing women to dress in modest apparel, he still went ahead to tell them not to be "immodest/flamboyant" as you put it. Well, read more objectively, thimothy here, is giving examples in concrete terms what should and what should not be done:
1 Timothy 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

nora544:

Oh deeper life church makes also miracles.

When i hear about this miracles how many are realy tru, did they show something that they have this illness before.

Was this person visiting many doctors before that he has realy cancer or HIV..... and he get healt.... or is this only because nigerian belive so much in miracles.

I know that there is a possibility that you get healt from cancer but not without drugs.

But when i hear that parents go for the pastor when there child is sick, to ask for a prayer, give there hard earned money to the pastor for the prayer and what they are doing if the prayer brings nothing then they have no money that they can bring there child in the hospital because a simple appendicitis when it is not done at the right time is dangerous.

The people from nigeria trust there so called man of god more than a doctor.

I see a documentation about religion in nigeria from an nigerian and it was so sad when you hear one so called great man of god telling the people jesus was a rich man - please where i can find this in the james bible - i look for this since two weeks.

When this so called great man of god ask the people if they want a bentley, did this normal people realy know what a bently is.

All in this churches is about money, praying and fasting but no one of this so called great man of god will tell his people you have to work when you want to have a better life and god will help you.

People in nigeria belive when the pastor tell them give me all your money what you have in your pocket when you come to church and when you are back at home this mony will be ten times more on your tabel at home, since what time god make money.

Kaysalas: ^^ please emorse, i am still waiting for the thread you spoke about.

Phiozy: I REMEMBER WHEN OWNING A TELEVISION OR WATCHING ONE WAS A SIN, AND AFTER MUCH 'thoughts' IT WAS NO LONGER CONSIDERED A SIN AND TODAY THEY EVEN HAVE A T.V STATION. LMAO... LETS C HOW IT GOES. VERY SOON MOST OF THE GUYS WOULD PREFER GETTING MARRIED TO LADIES IN OTHER CHURCHES XO THE WEDDING WOULD BE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. AFTERALL ITS THEIR DAY.

Deeper_danNY:


There's no regret on the TV issue. The world of believers will be better off without the gay and Lesbian infested CNN and all their drug infested transgender friends who daily parades all over naked and and are called celebrities. They are fast infesting the entire Christian world with their evil liberty against all decency and Godliness. I wish Deeperlife stood its ground on NO TV and we'll have less rebellious children and crass fornicators as Frosbel, Afam4ever, and Biolabee who all needs urgent spiritual help to get them out of the way of perdition. The world of believers will be better off without the TV's but its too late as pornography has moved to smartphones and this is not smart at all.