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Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by bishopjoe02(m): 3:19pm On Jul 05, 2013
I have being to different branches/parish of catholic church, i have come across priest casting out devils and manifestating the gift of healing, but i have never see one that is praying in other tongues, is tongues now might for the pentecostal alone.
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jul 05, 2013
Yes some catholics priests have the gift of tongues.Speaking in tongues as in what happened on the day of pentecost is differant from what happens in most pentecostal churches today.On the day of pentecost the apostles spoke in only one language but the differant people heard them in their own native languages.

It is like me speaking in english and a yoruba man hears me in yoruba ditto for an igbo man or a hausa man.

The gift of tongues(which pentecostals mistakenly call the speaking in tongues) is what st paul described in the book of corinthians where people were said to speak in the language of angels.There the people spoke and were not understood by anyone except by interpretation by those to whom it was revealed to.

The holy bible tells us that we should do it with moderation.Not more than 3 people at a time and there should do it one after another.It goes further to add that when there is no interpreter no body should speak in that strange lanuage in the church.
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by bishopjoe02(m): 5:02pm On Jul 05, 2013
chukwudi44: Yes some catholics priests have the gift of tongues.Speaking in tongues as in what happened on the day of pentecost is differant from what happens in most pentecostal churches today.On the day of pentecost the apostles spoke in only one language but the differant people heard them in their own native languages.

It is like me speaking in english and a yoruba man hears me in yoruba ditto for an igbo man or a hausa man.

The gift of tongues(which pentecostals mistakenly call the speaking in tongues) is what st paul described in the book of corinthians where people were said to speak in the language of angels.There the people spoke and were not understood by anyone except by interpretation by those to whom it was revealed to.

The holy bible tells us that we should do it with moderation.Not more than 3 people at a time and there should do it one after another.It goes further to add that when there is no interpreter no body should speak in that strange lanuage in the church.
let me rephrase the question, do catholic and their priest prayer in tongues in their closet, nt n church name, if u may knw there is diff btw speaking tongues(for the edificatn of the church) and praying n tongues for the edificatn of d speaker
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jul 05, 2013
The gift of tongues described in the book of corinthiansis very much prevalent in our times and have been witnessed by uncountable number of both catholic priests and laity.

The gift of speaking in tongues(as in what happned on the day of the pentecost) is very rare and since the end of apostolic times has only been recorded in the lifes of st vincent ferrer in the fourteenth century,St Francis Xavier and Alongsius Liguori.

I am yet to hear the exhibition of such gifts in our modern history.
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by bishopjoe02(m): 7:17pm On Jul 05, 2013
chukwudi44: The gift of tongues described in the book of corinthiansis very much prevalent in our times and have been witnessed by uncountable number of both catholic priests and laity.

The gift of speaking in tongues(as in what happned on the day of the pentecost) is very rare and since the end of apostolic times has only been recorded in the lifes of st vincent ferrer in the fourteenth century,St Francis Xavier and Alongsius Liguori.

I am yet to hear the exhibition of such gifts in our modern history.
let go back to my questn nw, i have neva see a priest or a catholic praying in tongues ie self edificatn except charistmatic
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 7:27pm On Jul 05, 2013
bishopjoe02:
let go back to my questn nw, i have neva see a priest or a catholic praying in tongues ie self edificatn except charistmatic

So because you have never seen a catholic priests exhibit such gifts means they do not have such gift? How do you reason?how many catholic priests do you know?

Is the gifts of tongues even necessary for salvation? Must every xtian ave such gifts?
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by bishopjoe02(m): 7:32pm On Jul 05, 2013
chukwudi44:

So because you have never seen a catholic priests exhibit such gifts means they do not have such gift? How do you reason?how many catholic priests do you know?

Is the gifts of tongues even necessary for salvation? Must every xtian ave such gifts?
let take it one at a time, i have to 3 states n Nigeria, i have visitd most catholic church n dat state, bt neva have i c a priest speaking n tongues, pls do ur parish priest speak n tongues, pls dont lie
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 8:09pm On Jul 05, 2013
bishopjoe02:
let take it one at a time, i have to 3 states n Nigeria, i have visitd most catholic church n dat state, bt neva have i c a priest speaking n tongues, pls do ur parish priest speak n tongues, pls dont lie

Bros if I am to go by your defective logici mighht not even be a xtian if I need to see before I believe it happens.Please go and read 1 corinthians 14 about the way the people should conduct themselves in church in terms of speaking in tongues and the very essence of this gift.

The catholic church is not a mad house decribed by st Paul in 1 coe 14:23
You really expected to see a catholic priest blabbing during mass?
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by bishopjoe02(m): 8:27pm On Jul 05, 2013
chukwudi44:

Bros if I am to go by your defective logici mighht not even be a xtian if I need to see before I believe it happens.Please go and read 1 corinthians 14 about the way the people should conduct themselves in church in terms of speaking in tongues and the very essence of this gift.

The catholic church is not a mad house decribed by st Paul in 1 coe 14:23
You really expected to see a catholic priest blabbing during mass?
i guess u dont have complete undastnd abt 1corinthian 14, paul wrote that verse because the corinth church was abusing the gift, they were so filld wth d spirit dat the dont give room for each oda to talk, its was like our d members of a church prophecying and speaking n tongues (for church edificatn) at d same time. Bt d catholic church setting is nt let dat, evrytin is organise, we have a priest who say d prayer (n meeting) or lead d mass and stil yet no tongues speaking. The tongues im talking abt is the 1 4 self edificatn.
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by Nobody: 9:03pm On Jul 05, 2013
The chapter 14 of 1st corinthians is for every xtian and not just for the corinthian church.How hypocritic can one get? The entire chapter is given below.
1 Corinthians 14 (NIV)

One verse per line

Gifts of Prophecy and Tongues

1⁠ Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 2⁠ For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. 3⁠ But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4⁠ He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5⁠ I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified. 6⁠ Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7⁠ Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8⁠ Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9⁠ So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10⁠ Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11⁠ If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me. 12⁠ So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church. 13⁠ For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says. 14⁠ For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15⁠ So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind. 16⁠ If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? 17⁠ You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified. 18⁠ I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19⁠ But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue. 20⁠ Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults. 21⁠ In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord. 22⁠ Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers. 23⁠ So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24⁠ But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, 25⁠ and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!"

Orderly Worship

26⁠ What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church. 27⁠ If anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the most three--should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28⁠ If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God. 29⁠ Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30⁠ And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31⁠ For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32⁠ The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33⁠ For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, 34⁠ women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35⁠ If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. 36⁠ Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37⁠ If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. 38⁠ If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. 39⁠ Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40⁠ But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.
Re: Do Reverend Fathers Speak In Tongues by bishopjoe02(m): 10:32pm On Jul 05, 2013
Yes the whole chapter is 4 evry xtian. Im jst telling u d reasn y d chapter was written which was stress frm verse 26. There is a diff btw speaking n tongues (church edificatn) nd praying n tongues (self edificatn) d praying n tongues was only mentn n verse 14-15. Cn u c dat prophecy is 4 unbeliever, y prayering n tongues is 4 believer. Cn u pls read verse 39 again. So i have neva c a priest praying n tongues, i have c dem heal nd do oda tinx bt nt tongues, r u saying d whole of catholic no 1 possess dat gift

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