akpomeme:

They are in bed with shell, chevron and mobil... Agip sef join... Google it. That is a good start to realize who is ignorant at the end of the day. Who and who manages these companies in NIgeria and for how long. Help yourself please.

Ignorance has no masters, if well respected Abati of yesterday can go blind in the light of power, who are the internet rats not to justify their pay.

ckkris: Were they drinking blood at all? Stop cursing and discuss reasonably. Bloodshed ruins the land. Don't you know that?

Pirates and Sea Dogs were drinking blood scroll up and check man that was you. you dont even know what you are posting anymore...one minute you said they were drinking blood the other minute you are asking if they were drinking blood before...? your understanding about old time cult an now is the cause of the whole blunder on this thread

LFJ:


Ignorance has no masters, if well respected Abati of yesterday can go blind in the light of power, who are the internet rats not to justify their pay.

Lol... Must you guys always talk about pay? Who paid you to comment? You find it worthy to responds to rats online. What does that make you?

lagerwhenindoubt: It can be painful replying to dolts as this poster. So the inventor of Codeine normally used for alleviating cough symptoms should be blamed for youths abusing it as a drug, only dolts will actually consider your argument as having merit.

I don't think you are in Nigeria otherwise you would have seen the papers where cult groups are sending their greetings to their grand patron. Soyinka is still neck deep into cultism. So ?

Bottom line is that most people in power in Nigeria are cultists. Soyinka should be recognized for this... The rascality you see today in the society are derived from false sense of ego driven by the principles institutionalized by Wole Soyinka.

After watching the video and reading the rebuttals - alluding the blooding su.cking thugs on your university campuses to Wole Soyinka is like saying the Black Panthers created the gangsters/thugs in America...

What Wole Soyinka started is like Alpha Phi Alpha that was created by Henry Chapman et al. MLK and Marshall Thurgood were also fraternity members and there's absolutely nothing wrong with fraternities. What you lot have got in that country aren't fraternities but thugs and gangsters that shouldn't be anywhere near a university campus.

Occultism and cultism in Nigeria today all emanated from the south west. Why are you guys in denial? The question is, did Soyinka introduce what is generally referred to cult groups In Nigeria while studying here?

akpomeme: Occultism and cultism in Nigeria today all emanated from the south west. Why are you guys in denial? The question is, did Soyinka introduce what is generally referred to cult groups In Nigeria while studying here?

you must have selective amnesia..... the otokoto saga was in the south west? the okija shrine that predates the amalgamation in 1914 is located where?

coogar:

you must have selective amnesia..... the otokoto saga was in the south west? the okija shrine that predates the amalgamation in 1914 is located where?

Ritualism and cultism are two different issues here...

akpomeme:
Ritualism and cultism are two different issues here...

it's interwoven....
cultists perform rituals when they meet. they don't meet to talk about barcelona. so stop talking nonsense.

akpomeme:

Lol... Must you guys always talk about pay? Who paid you to comment? You find it worthy to responds to rats online. What does that make you?

Thank you, this is not new, with each new government, there has always been new Al-Mustapha. So, ride on, there is always an end to everything. The end of your government will soon come. Then you will run back to us to cry in the usual way.

akpomeme: Bottom line is that most people in power in Nigeria are cultists. Soyinka should be recognized for this... The rascality you see today in the society are derived from false sense of ego driven by the principles institutionalized by Wole Soyinka.

Give account of the Rascalities that has been caused by Cultism...? Militancy, Oil Bunkering, Public Funds Embezzlement, Robberies, do you know that most Frats forbids their members from Robbery...? man you have to educate yourself properly before you start calling Rotary, YCS, PLADDS, JET-CLUBS AND THE REST FRATS, because they all started same way..and as you already know which i concur a lot of government officials are Rotaract, will you call them Violence cultist...?

akpomeme: Occultism and cultism in Nigeria today all emanated from the south west. Why are you guys in denial? The question is, did Soyinka introduce what is generally referred to cult groups In Nigeria while studying here?

The Niger Delta has seen more Occultist Activities than any other region in Nigeria

Soyenka started campus cultism. That is the fact!

He does not command any iota of respect, because he is responsible for blood of youths that have been cut down during cult war.

@OP:

When Wole Soyinka wrote about Gen Buhari, what did you say? Was he also wrong then? Or is it only when he complains about GEJ or PEJ that he becomes wrong and a cultist

Its reprehensible that you people clutch to straws to justify whatever fancy presently catches you but lets say it simply like this - If he was right complaining about Buhari, he is right complaining about PEJ or GEJ or whoever.

Interestingly, this man has ALWAYS stood against GMB yet in the past, was a strident voice against the injustice that kept GEJ out of Aso-Rock. Now that he suggests correction of "extremities", he has suddenly become a demon?

bestview: Soyenka started campus cultism. That is the fact!

He does not command any iota of respect, because he is responsible for blood of youths that have been cut down during cult war.

the money spent on your education should have been used to invest in cocoa production!

Hypocrate set of ppl,when he was supporting gej to get the president sit 4m tore yaradua.U guys forget he was a cultist,but now that he is aginst him,u remember he is a cultist.Shamless group of ppl.

bestview: Soyenka started campus cultism. That is the fact!

He does not command any iota of respect, because he is responsible for blood of youths that have been cut down during cult war.

You've been saying this all day long, is n't time for you to get something else to say. It's stale.

nuclearboy: @OP:

When Wole Soyinka wrote about Gen Buhari, what did you say? Was he also wrong then? Or is it only when he complains about GEJ or PEJ that he becomes wrong and a cultist

Its reprehensible that you people clutch to straws to justify whatever fancy presently catches you but lets say it simply like this - If he was right complaining about Buhari, he is right complaining about PEJ or GEJ or whoever.

Interestingly, this man has ALWAYS stood against GMB yet in the past, was a strident voice against the injustice that kept GEJ out of Aso-Rock. Now that he suggests correction of "extremities", he has suddenly become a demon?

The OP and his ilk have no self worth, they are like cows being led around by a herdsman, they have no mind of their own.

Under the same moral grounds he protested against Yar Adua

ShyM-X:
After watching the video and reading the rebuttals - alluding the blooding su.cking thugs on your university campuses to Wole Soyinka is like saying the Black Panthers created the gangsters/thugs in America...

What Wole Soyinka started is like Alpha Phi Alpha that was created by Henry Chapman et al. MLK and Marshall Thurgood were also fraternity members and there's absolutely nothing wrong with fraternities. What you lot have got in that country aren't fraternities but thugs and gangsters that shouldn't be anywhere near a university campus.

It is not that @OP does not understand the noble origins of confraternities in Nigeria; he does. Like other hypocrites posting on this thread, it is simply that he fears any acknowledgement of this unassailable truth would cast him and the ethnic chauvinism he embodies adrift, with nothing else to rely on for leverage.

The main objectives of the seadogs have been summarized by Orintusin (1990). They are as follows; (i) to fight non-violently but intellectually and effectively, against the imposition of foreign conventions, to revive the age of chivalry, (ii) to find a lasting solution to the problems of tribalism and elitism.

Professor Wole Soyinka was the first democratically elected “captain” of the society with the name, Captain blood (Orintusin 1990). Professor Muyiwa Awe was Long John Silver. Many prominent Nigerians who were founding fathers of the Confraternity include Pius Oleghe, Ralph Opara Aig I’Moukhuede and others. The outfit of the seadogs resembled those of the pyrates of the old. Everything done was healthy, fun and harmless (Orintusin 1990).

Professor Soyinka (2002) comments that the pyrates wanted to be different from the “stodgy establishment and its pretentious products in a new educational institution different from a culture of hypocritical and affluent middleclass, different from alienated colonial aristocrats”.

Professor Soyinka also explained that confraternities are not cults (Dixon 1994). According to him, Confraternity was part of the social life of the university, which existed then, and as Adebayo (2001) has pointed out some evil minds have twisted the original aims of this noble tradition that was simply one of campus life. Soyinka further points out that the original Confraternity did not swear any oath of secrecy, no binding of blood and the identities of members were known to both students and staff (Adiamoh 2003).

Long after the founding fathers had left the University of Ibadan, the Confraternity (seadogs) continued to thrive. Unfortunately towards the end of the 1960’s, the social, political and educational changes which were occurring in Nigeria began to affect the operations of the Confraternities.

According to Adelola (1997), the first notable departure came in 1968 with the formation of the Eiye Confraternity at the University of Ibadan. According to Owoeye (1997) the Eiye Confraternity had sprung from the “Bucaneers” which also had sprung up from the sea dogs. The major force that led to the formation of new splinter groups from the sea dogs was basically doctrinal (Thomas 2002). For example, members of the new groups were not able to meet the high academic standard originally set by the sea dogs Confraternity.

The nascent groups which were formed from the sea dogs regarded the pyrates as rather elitist whose campaigns had outlived their usefulness (Owoeye 1997). The protestant groups which sprang up from the Pyrates Confraternity included, Black eye, Vikings, Bucaneers, Mafia, dragons, Black Beret and others. The female cults include, Temple of Eden, Frigrates, Barracudas, Daughters of Jezebel and others.

Source: Rotimi, A. (2005). Violence in the citadel: The menace of secret cults in the Nigerian universities. Nordic Journal of African Studies, 14(1), 79–98.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBgpuT7Ff8

The main objectives of the seadogs have been summarized by Orintusin (1990). They are as follows; (i) to fight non-violently but intellectually and effectively, against the imposition of foreign conventions, to revive the age of chivalry, (ii) to find a lasting solution to the problems of tribalism and elitism.

Professor Wole Soyinka was the first democratically elected “captain” of the society with the name, Captain blood (Orintusin 1990). Professor Muyiwa Awe was Long John Silver. Many prominent Nigerians who were founding fathers of the Confraternity include Pius Oleghe, Ralph Opara Aig I’Moukhuede and others. The outfit of the seadogs resembled those of the pyrates of the old. Everything done was healthy, fun and harmless (Orintusin 1990).

Professor Soyinka (2002) comments that the pyrates wanted to be different from the “stodgy establishment and its pretentious products in a new educational institution different from a culture of hypocritical and affluent middleclass, different from alienated colonial aristocrats”.

Professor Soyinka also explained that confraternities are not cults (Dixon 1994). According to him, Confraternity was part of the social life of the university, which existed then, and as Adebayo (2001) has pointed out some evil minds have twisted the original aims of this noble tradition that was simply one of campus life. Soyinka further points out that the original Confraternity did not swear any oath of secrecy, no binding of blood and the identities of members were known to both students and staff (Adiamoh 2003).

Long after the founding fathers had left the University of Ibadan, the Confraternity (seadogs) continued to thrive. Unfortunately towards the end of the 1960’s, the social, political and educational changes which were occurring in Nigeria began to affect the operations of the Confraternities.

According to Adelola (1997), the first notable departure came in 1968 with the formation of the Eiye Confraternity at the University of Ibadan. According to Owoeye (1997) the Eiye Confraternity had sprung from the “Bucaneers” which also had sprung up from the sea dogs. The major force that led to the formation of new splinter groups from the sea dogs was basically doctrinal (Thomas 2002). For example, members of the new groups were not able to meet the high academic standard originally set by the sea dogs Confraternity.

The nascent groups which were formed from the sea dogs regarded the pyrates as rather elitist whose campaigns had outlived their usefulness (Owoeye 1997). The protestant groups which sprang up from the Pyrates Confraternity included, Black eye, Vikings, Bucaneers, Mafia, dragons, Black Beret and others. The female cults include, Temple of Eden, Frigrates, Barracudas, Daughters of Jezebel and others.

this is profound.....

where's that mental-handicap OP and his army of lunatics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBgpuT7Ff8

christ of nazareth....
so patience goodluck closed down an entire axis of a state for 11 days because she's a first lady? a mere domestic appendage abusing power and causing distress to an elected state governor?

only in nigeria would this happen....

[b]Mr. OP..

A wise man carries out proper research before he speaks on any issue.. There are many fraternities in tis country. Wole Soyinka started he Pyrates Confraternity. I'm not a member but have many friends that are. Infact, I do spend most Friday nights at their lodges in different cities. I have come to realise that fraternities of today have deviated from what they originally were set out to be all about. I will only speak of the Pyrates as that is the only fraternity that I have associated with. I have been to their lodges in Anambra State (Awka), Benin city and port harcourt. I was first amazed at how me a 'ju' was allowed to freely mingle with them. I sit through their jyrations and have even seen some members come with their wives to these lodges. I followed their initiation process to the latter and not opted out at the last minute for personal reasons. What I came to realise was that though the idea of the founders were noble, because of the expansion of these frats, control has become difficult. I'm currently in a hotel in Uyo where Wole just had a lecture and many Seadogs were present. These men were men of repute. Business men, professionals and family men. Well spoken and well off in the society. When you talk about violence, count the Pyrates frat out of it.

As it stands today, there is no Seadog student anywhere in the world as students can no longer become Pyrates.


Wole Soyinka is not the problem. Otherwise, you might as well blame Jesus for bringing Christianity and the associated thieving, politicking, brainwashing and other vices associated with it today..[/b]

LFJ:

Thank you, this is not new, with each new government, there has always been new Al-Mustapha. So, ride on, there is always an end to everything. The end of your government will soon come. Then you will run back to us to cry in the usual way.

So you are the cry baby based on your assertions abi? Who is that person that will beat Gej in 2015. Waiting for you to come in bro. Please be corrected that I am not part of this government just taking you all on your silly postures in the name of criticism.

akpomeme:

So you are the cry baby based on your assertions abi? Who is that person that will beat Gej in 2015. Waiting for you to come in bro. Please be corrected that I am not part of this government just taking you all on your silly postures in the name of criticism.

When a silly man is dancing, who are you to tell him to stop dancing. Those who are close to Jonathan will tell you that even with all the power in Aso Rock, Jonathan knows that things are not presently in his favor. Guess what, his problem is because of your type around him. What do you have in the head to market GEJ than to come here to insult people? This is where your boss is losing it. When you give power to militants, what do you expect? I promise you, 2015 will be hot for you and other laptop members.

LFJ:

When a silly man is dancing, who are you to tell him to stop dancing. Those who are close to Jonathan will tell you that even with all the power in Aso Rock, Jonathan knows that things are not presently in his favor. Guess what, his problem is because of your type around him. What do you have in the head to market GEJ than to come here to insult people? This is where your boss is losing it. When you give power to militants, what do you expect? I promise you, 2015 will be hot for you and other laptop members.

Noted... you will b on nairaland ranting on election day while I vote. so repentant militants are not Nigerians? cry baby

akpomeme simple question
A drunk driver had an accident yesterday, do we blame the driver or the person that invented the car?

Who is this jobless OP?


I can figure out he's bittered that South westerners have taken up their resources.


But is it our faults?


You don't have to denigrade the erudite WS b4 your grievances can be heard.

You can jump into the nearest lagoon to meet baba God and air your opinions to him.

akpomeme: Bottom line is that most people in power in Nigeria are cultists. Soyinka should be recognized for this... The rascality you see today in the society are derived from false sense of ego driven by the principles institutionalized by Wole Soyinka.

I understand your plight.


Infact I pity your condition.

You even suffer from incoherence of thoughts.

It is a regret to have you and your kind here on nl.

Anyway, engaging you in debates is a waste of time.

If living as a south southerners has become a buden to you,


You are always free to port to the southwest.
That's what your kinsmen do. We all them all over here doing all the dirty works for us.

Sorry for condition

akpomeme:

So you are the cry baby based on your assertions abi? Who is that person that will beat Gej in 2015. Waiting for you to come in bro. Please be corrected that I am not part of this government just taking you all on your silly postures in the name of criticism.

Gbam...


I know that is where your blind hatred stems from...2015.


Once again, it is a regret to have you on planet earth.

You should have been used for an experiment in a cadaver laboratory.

For how long do u want to manipulate the truth all because of peanuts that u receive?

Don't u want a better nigeria for your unborn kids?

Don't you envisage a better future for yourself as a youth?

That means you are contented with the present situation of the country.
Even the international community has come to criticize the manner by which gej is governing this country.

Now I believe that the greatest obstruction to the development of nigeria are the citizens

akpomeme:

So you are the cry baby based on your assertions abi? Who is that person that will beat Gej in 2015. Waiting for you to come in bro. Please be corrected that I am not part of this government just taking you all on your silly postures in the name of criticism.

Gbam...


I know that is where your blind hatred stems from...2015.


Once again, it is a regret to have you on planet earth.

You should have been used for an experiment in a cadaver laboratory.

For how long do u want to manipulate the truth all because of peanuts that u receive?

Don't u want a better nigeria for your unborn kids?

Don't you envisage a better future for yourself as a youth?

That means you are contented with the present
situation of the country.

So you want gej to be reelected in2015?
A govt that doesn't values your future as a youth.

Universities and polytechnics are on strike yet your fisherman president sees nothing wrong in that.

Even the international community has come to criticize the manner by which gej is governing this country.
That is why the sw seems to be ahead of other regions.

We don't allow sentiment to blind our reasoning.

We don't always believe in our son must be there

If our son is not doing it well, we replace him with a better candidate not minding his/her tribe.

You want gej to continue despite identifying the fact that things are getting worse under him?

Continue like that. That is how your village will develop.
Now I believe that the greatest obstruction to the development of nigeria are the citizens.