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Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Enigma(m): 8:45am On Jul 30, 2013
@Dereformer

God bless you mightily for those explanations and illustrations.

Very helpful.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Empiree: 6:40pm On Jul 30, 2013
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Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by lincolnj88: 7:40pm On Jul 30, 2013
Silly.....you are asking what is d difference between GOD and GOD....The bible says.... I and my father are one....JESUS thought it no robbery to be equal wit GOD... And Jesus is the word of GOD (John 1 vs 1) in d begining was d word and word was with GOD and d word was GOD...the bible says the word was made manifest among men...meaning Jesus is d word of GOD personified....and he came in flesh and dwelt among men...so my friend if dat muslims ask u dis tell her she should differentiate herself frm herself.....

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Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Ezegozie(m): 8:37pm On Jul 30, 2013
lincolnj88: Silly.....you are asking what is d difference between GOD and GOD....The bible says.... I and my father are one....JESUS thought it no robbery to be equal wit GOD... And Jesus is the word of GOD (John 1 vs 1) in d begining was d word and word was with GOD and d word was GOD...the bible says the word was made manifest among men...meaning Jesus is d word of GOD personified....and he came in flesh and dwelt among men...so my friend if dat muslims ask u dis tell her she should differentiate herself frm herself.....

when i saw "SILLY" , i felt insulted.
But when i read more, i found out that your comment is very wise and well explained!
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jul 30, 2013
@lincolnj88; if 1 of your friends mentioned you as the captain of the soccer team and three of them just said you played some soccer, should we accept that you are the team captain or that you might have played some soccer, definitely not the leader of the squad? John is the lone ranger here. and word does not necessarily mean the speaker.

if Jesus was arrested, tried, found guilty, punished and put on a cross, do it mean God had these experiences, since you say God and Jesus are 1?

if your Bible says jesus died, does it mean God died? if you say Jesus fought satan in hell for 3 days does it mean God did this?

if Jesus was raised up, does it mean God was raised up?

If Jesus was tempted, does it mean God was tempted?


if jesus said my God. . . ., does it mean God said my God. . . . .?


if Jesus was supported by angels, does it mean God was supported by angels?


if Jesus cried, does it mean God cried?


If Jesus was stripped almost totally na.ked, does it mean was stripped almost totally nak.ed?


Think about each of this and know only prophets can go through this ordeal, not God. and it is if God permit any of them as means of testing the followers of the prophets.

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Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Ezegozie(m): 9:13pm On Jul 30, 2013
Empiree: I really can't help you. What you called fact has been repudiated century ago. Keep dreaming. You re citing fabricated statement. Sorry I don't live in ur country

saying that Prophet Mohammed marrying Aisha at the age of 9 is a fabricated story means two things.

(1) Either that you are not well informed of the religion you practice or
(2) you are not a real muslim

i expected you to defend the Mohammed story, since you claim to be a bonafide muslim but saying that it is a fabricated story means that you need to read the koran more.

Why not read this quotation (Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 88) and know wether it is a fabricated story or not
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by lincolnj88: 11:08pm On Jul 30, 2013
@Ropycain 1. Was jesus guilty? 2. John 3:16 God sent his son,his son came in flesh so he was made to pass through pain of d flesh.....according to isaiahs “he was bruised for our iniquity“ “by his stripes we are healed“ SO we say jesus was being made to suffered all dis because he came to d world as a flesh to stop d killing of lamb for remission of sin and to use himself as d lamb and he was been killed as lamb and fufil the prophesies of isaiah and he came with d authority and power of GOD...dats y he said i and my father are one... SO JESUS IS D WORD OF GOD PERSONIFIED AND D WORD WAS GOD... 3. JOHN a lone ranger as how....dont u know dat it was caliph uthman dat wrote d quran after d death of mohammed and dere was not 1 quran wen moh was alive...4. Only a false prophet will have sex with a girl of 9yrs, will tell his subordinate to drink the urine of a camel as medicinal,
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Ezegozie(m): 12:27pm On Aug 03, 2013
hmmmmm so interesting
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Nobody: 6:14pm On Aug 03, 2013
@ Ezegozie

How does the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) marriage to Aisha affects the validity of Islam. it doesn't. But I can show what strikes at the very root of christianity i.e. the irreconciliable contradictions in your bible. please clarify the following contradictions:

1. Contradictions between the genealogies of Jesus given in the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke. Both genealogies begin with Jesus’ father, who is identified as Joseph. But Matthew says Joseph’s father was Jacob, while Luke claims he was Heli. Matthew lists 26 generations between Jesus and King David, whereas Luke records 41. Matthew runs Jesus’ line of descent through David’s son Solomon, while Luke has it going through David’s son Nathan.

2. The story of Jesus' birth is also contradictory. Matthew 2:13-15 depicts Joseph and Mary as fleeing to Egypt with the baby Jesus immediately after the wise men from the east had brought gifts. But Luke 2:22-40 claims that after the birth of Jesus, his parents remained in Bethlehem for the time of Mary’s purification (which was 40 days, under the Mosaic law). Afterwards, they brought Jesus to Jerusalem "to present him to the Lord," and then returned to their home in Nazareth. Luke mentions no journey into Egypt or visit by wise men from the east.

3. Concerning the death of Judas, the disloyal disciple, Matthew 27:5 states he took the money he had received for betraying Jesus, threw it down in the temple, and "went and hanged himself." To the contrary, Acts 1:18 claims Judas used the money to purchase a field and "falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Ezegozie(m): 12:33am On Aug 04, 2013
abubello: @ Ezegozie

How does the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) marriage to Aisha affects the validity of Islam. it doesn't. But I can show what strikes at the very root of christianity i.e. the irreconciliable contradictions in your bible. please clarify the following contradictions:

1. Contradictions between the genealogies of Jesus given in the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke. Both genealogies begin with Jesus’ father, who is identified as Joseph. But Matthew says Joseph’s father was Jacob, while Luke claims he was Heli. Matthew lists 26 generations between Jesus and King David, whereas Luke records 41. Matthew runs Jesus’ line of descent through David’s son Solomon, while Luke has it going through David’s son Nathan.

2. The story of Jesus' birth is also contradictory. Matthew 2:13-15 depicts Joseph and Mary as fleeing to Egypt with the baby Jesus immediately after the wise men from the east had brought gifts. But Luke 2:22-40 claims that after the birth of Jesus, his parents remained in Bethlehem for the time of Mary’s purification (which was 40 days, under the Mosaic law). Afterwards, they brought Jesus to Jerusalem "to present him to the Lord," and then returned to their home in Nazareth. Luke mentions no journey into Egypt or visit by wise men from the east.

3. Concerning the death of Judas, the disloyal disciple, Matthew 27:5 states he took the money he had received for betraying Jesus, threw it down in the temple, and "went and hanged himself." To the contrary, Acts 1:18 claims Judas used the money to purchase a field and "falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

you see what i tell you, they (muslims) read the bible, though i gues their sole aim of reading is not to gain knowledge from the word of God but just to destructively critisize our belief.

This is so bad. Why are you people reading the bible, since you dont have what it takes from understanding it?

I dont blame you people, the christians are so lenient that they allow everyone to have access to the bible. Unlike the muslims.

To tell you the truth, i have never seen a KORAN since i was born, let alone reading it. What i suspect is that it must be in the form of bible.

But the advice i have for you is this

IF YOU MUST OPEN THE BIBLE; THEN STUDY IT DONT READ IT.

Back to the your question, though they may be some slight contradiction in the three synoptic gospel, but does the contradiction cause danger to the world?
Is there is any part of the bible where Jesus slept with an underaged girl (paedophila).
Just as Mohammed did to Aisha at d age of 9?

Did jesus kill a Manand raped his wife? Just as Mohammed killed Jewish Rabbi and raped his wife Safiyah? (Sahih Bukhari 1:8:367)

inshort mohammed has a weakness for women. Always marrying any beautiful lady that comes his way. He is a grade one polygamist.

Though i am not condeming Him because my bible (Roman 14:4-23) tells me not to judge or condemn anyone, But you muslims should quit critisizing the christians
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Nobody: 1:51am On Aug 04, 2013
@lincolnj88;
by lincolnj88: 11:08pm On Jul 30
@Ropycain 1. Was jesus guilty? 2. John 3:16 God sent his son,his son came in flesh so he was made to pass through pain of d flesh.....according to isaiahs “he was bruised for our iniquity“ “by his stripes we are healed“ SO we say jesus was being made to suffered all dis because he came to d world as a flesh to stop d killing of lamb for remission of sin and to use himself as d lamb and he was been killed as lamb and fufil the prophesies of isaiah and

again 4 of your friends spoke about you. one of them says you are the husband of the biggest movie star in nigeria. the 3 of them discussed you as a bachelor. if each of them spoke candidly about you, we have to assume that 3 of them spoke the truth about your marital status and the one who says you are the husband of Omotola is a liar. how is a prophesy about jews translating to mean the whole world? being bruised does not mean death. not especially after you begged God. if God loves you he will accept your begging. He will not save goats and let those who want to kill goat kill you instead. after all goat meat is consumable. what does one do with your human flesh? who demands your human blood because the goat blood is not good enough? today people are still killing goats and they have not became endangered specie/cattle. There is no reason for a father turn his son to a lamb, and spare the real lamb and allow both their enemies to waste him. Come on. put on the thinking cap, man. And no true family is a father of a son unless the mother is his wife, otherwise you have illegitimate relationship on the loose.




he came with d authority and power of GOD...dats y he said i and my father are one... SO JESUS IS D WORD OF GOD PERSONIFIED AND D WORD WAS GOD... 3. JOHN a lone ranger as how....


every prophet came with the authority and power of God which is why they are prophets of God. when i say prophets i am not talking about the likes of adeboye, oyedepo, etc. these cats now are milking you people as their cash cows. Jesus could not personify God as God is not man or son of man. each one of us is word of God. I came by His word, permission. John is not sincere because the others didn't go along with saying the word must be the speaker. Word is action to display the intent of the speaker. when the word is spoken, the speaker is not diminished or vanishes. Jesus said God is in heaven, which shows that Jesus as word on earth is not God. no one of us is word of anything, but each is word of God.



dont u know dat it was caliph uthman dat wrote d quran after d death of mohammed and dere was not 1 quran wen moh was alive...4. Only a false prophet will Be Intimate with a girl of 9yrs, will tell his subordinate to drink the urine of a camel as medicinal,

Before the holy prophet [sa] left, hundreds of people memorized the entire Quran. every muslim memorized a portion of the Quran because they must use it to make salah. Quran is not the book, but Quran is the recitation. The book is mushaf. the word recited is Quran. Quran is Qirah, recitation. The first compiler is Abu bakr [ra] into a book form, Uthman [ra] standardized it so that other dialects gave way to Makkan/madinan dialects as [standard]. Marriage or not is not the standard of knowing who is a prophet or not. In Quran, its God Who chose who He wills. read the proof of prophet-hood in your bible and you will see marriage as none issue.

Do you know urine, is used to cure disease? www.newswise.com/articles/a-new-source-of-medicines-animal-urine


www.islamawareness.net/FAQ/faq1000.html

Horse Urine as a Western Cure

. . . .The popular estrogen product called PREMARIN is given to postmenopausal women. This PREMARIN is extracted from HORSE URINE. The name stands for PREgnant MARe urIN. Premarin, has become the third most prescribed drug in the world (just behind Tylenol). . . .
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by doctorbabs(m): 3:43am On Aug 04, 2013
Dereformer: There is no difference. Jesus said " I and my father are one"

can y say because u resemble ur father u are one
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by mahdino: 9:52am On Aug 04, 2013
Ezegozie:

saying that Prophet Mohammed marrying Aisha at the age of 9 is a fabricated story means two things.

(1) Either that you are not well informed of the religion you practice or
(2) you are not a real muslim

i expected you to defend the Mohammed story, since you claim to be a bonafide muslim but saying that it is a fabricated story means that you need to read the koran more.

Why not read this quotation (Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 88) and know wether it is a fabricated story or not





When 50 yrs man marries 12yrs girl it becomes molestation, but when your pastors rapes a 6yrs girl nobody talks about it.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by mahdino: 10:46am On Aug 04, 2013
Ezegozie:

when i saw "SILLY" , i felt insulted.
But when i read more, i found out that your comment is very wise and well explained!



Brother there is not a single time in the complete bible where Jesus clearly says that he is God or worship me. So it is your leaders and the church that are saying all this blasphemy.
Jesus clearly said my father is greater me...
I can't of my own self do nothing...
My father who has SENT(messenger) me is greater than all
... Of that day nobody knows even the son nor the angels
With God all things are possible, Jesus said he can't do anything without the help of God so how can they be the same
Jesus cast out demons by the finger of God even the greatest miracle done by him raising Lazarus his said "you will see the glory of God" not his (Jesus) glory or power. In Acts 2:22 it says "Jesus of Nazareth a MAN sent by God by miralces wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of u which u youself also know".
Do u see that all these concoction u have made and put in Jesus head is the reason why when he comes in his second coming he will reject u drive u away from him. In Matt 7:22 and many will say( christians) to me on that day lord, lord have we not done many mighty works in your name, built schools, hospitals e.t.c and he will say to them leave here and go away I don't even know you. This is because u have left his teachins and are busy doing another concocted and inovated believes.
I like your point of reasoning it is not easy for a christian to open up like u say ask question boadly but another thing, truth has over time been blackmailed and people have been trianed to hate Islam and muslims, what u have to do is to open up your mind and search for the truth from authentic sources. Pls don't read the Quran but ponder through it and peace your is this world and next. Before someone starts quoting John 10:30 i would want u to study the context comprhensively it will ease my explanation.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by LobsanRampa(m): 5:28pm On Aug 04, 2013
Pastor Olu T: The first thing u need to know about Jesus when He came to the earth is that He was 100% God n 100% man.

There are times He function only as a man, which are the times He displayed the human weakness to show us perfect example n to be a perfect high priest who is touched by our infirmities. And there are times He exact His authority and acted as a God that He is.

He has the power n can do all things, like Him laying down His life for if He had wanted otherwise He would have but chose not to. Philippians 2 says Being God did not usurp the authority.

Get the picture, Jesus is God n no different or weaker!

Stay blessed n remain rapturable
So God dies the time Jesus was killed?

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Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by davonny: 8:25pm On Aug 04, 2013
Pastors, stop preaching trinity, it is killing d church. Preach d gospel then the power of God shall manifest again.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Ezegozie(m): 7:55am On Aug 05, 2013
LOL @ Dav.

How is preaching the trinity killing the church?

Anyway, that Trinity is very confusing and hard to understand.

Anyway, who am i to doubt the word of God.
It is real
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by hopyroll(m): 9:07am On Aug 05, 2013
It is written in the bible that jesus Do pray, if yes, who does jesus pray to? When jesus was baptized it was said that a dove came down from heaven with a̶̲̥̅ voice ( this is my beloveth son whom Ȋ̝̊̅ loved so much listen to him) pls whose voice is that?
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Nobody: 10:40am On Aug 05, 2013
[quote author=Ezegozie]

@Ezegozie

You are missing the point about the the glaring contradictions in the bible. Christians claim that the gospel writers were inspired by the holy ghost, if that is the case then there shouldn't be contradictions. Mind you these are not slight contradictions - they could not even agree on who is the father of Joseph the carpenter. Do you honestly beleive that the holy ghost will inspire matthew the Joseph's father is Jacob while informin Luke that the man's name is Heli

Meanwhile here are more contradictions:

4. In describing Jesus being led to his execution, John 19:17 recounts that he carried his own cross. But Mark 15:21-23 disagrees by saying a man called Simon carried the cross.

5. As for the crucifixion, Matthew 27:44 tells us Jesus was taunted by both criminals who were being crucified with him. But Luke 23:39-43 relates that only one of the criminals taunted Jesus, the other criminal rebuked the one who was doing the taunting, and Jesus told the criminal who was defending him, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."

6. Regarding the last words of Jesus while on the cross, Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 quote Jesus as crying with a loud voice, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Luke 23:46 gives his final words as, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." John 19:30 alleges the last words were, "It is finished."

7. There are even contradictions in the accounts of the resurrection – the supposed event that is the very foundation of the Christian religion. Mark 16:2 states that on the day of the resurrection, certain women arrived at the tomb at the rising of the sun. But John 20:1 informs us they arrived when it was yet dark. Luke 24:2 describes the tomb as open when the women arrived, whereas Matthew 28:1-2 indicates it was closed. Mark 16:5 declares that the women saw a young man at the tomb, Luke 24:4 says they saw two men, Matthew 28:2 reports they saw an angel, and John 20:11-12 claims they saw two angels.

Which of the above stories was inspired by the holy ghost and which was not, mind you they are all part of the bible.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by herkeym001(m): 10:26am On Nov 18, 2015
hopyroll:
It is written in the bible that jesus Do pray, if yes, who does jesus pray to? When jesus was baptized it was said that a dove came down from heaven with a̶̲̥̅ voice ( this is my beloveth son whom Ȋ̝̊̅ loved so much listen to him) pls whose voice is that?
Two ACB (AnyColdBeer)for you
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by herkeym001(m): 11:03am On Nov 18, 2015
Ezegozie:


saying that Prophet Mohammed marrying Aisha at the age of 9 is a fabricated story means two things.

(1) Either that you are not well informed of the religion you practice or
(2) you are not a real muslim

i expected you to defend the Mohammed story, since you claim to be a bonafide muslim but saying that it is a fabricated story means that you need to read the koran more.

Why not read this quotation (Sahih Bukhari vol. 7, 88) and know wether it is a fabricated story or not

My question is;
How old was Joseph and HollyMarry when they got married?
But, do you know that
Joseph was 90years old, HollyMarry was just 12years old.
I'll advice you to
make research, do your finding, ask pastors and gather your facts before you reply.
Re: What Is The Difference Between Jesus And God? by Ezegozie(m): 12:01pm On Nov 18, 2015
herkeym001:

My question is;
How old was Joseph and HollyMarry when they got married?
But, do you know that
Joseph was 90years old, HollyMarry was just 12years old.
I'll advice you to
make research, do your finding, ask pastors and gather your facts before you reply.

so where is ur proof?
Can you qoute the bible where it was mentioned that Mary was 12yrs old when she got Married to Joseph.
Do not qoute Quran for me because I am not interested in that and can never be.
Tell me where it is written in the Holy bible that Mary was 12yrs old and Joseph was 90yrs old.

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