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|Temporary Marriage: Does Quran Allow It? by usisky(m): 1:46pm On Aug 08, 2013|
Glory Be To God(Allah), He begets not, neither is He begotten. He Alone Guides to the right path; the path of absolute and uncompromising MONOTHEISM.
[10:60] Does it ever occur to those who fabricate lies about GOD that they will have to face Him on the Day of Resurrection? Certainly, GOD showers the people with His grace, but most of them are unappreciative.
[10:69] Proclaim: "Those who fabricate lies about GOD will never succeed."
|Re: Temporary Marriage: Does Quran Allow It? by LagosShia: 6:44pm On Aug 08, 2013|
your entire post of a thousand words is deficient and can be summarized in one sentence. it is based on mistranslation of verse 4:24.the word "to do mut'ah" (istamta'toom) found in the verse is mistranslated as "whoever you like among them".
"Quran-only Muslims" or "submitters" like you are deficient in Islam.there is more substance if I as a Shia Muslim debate this topic with your Sunni Muslim branch masters, from whom you sprung up as an heretical movement aiming to confuse people under the guise of avoiding the hadith literatures and "only sticking to the Quran"-a deception at best.even Sunnis do not deny mut'ah but rather claim it was a later prohibition (by the Prophet),to which the Shia refuse and say that mut'ah was never prohibited by the Prophet (sa) but by and during the days of the second Sunni caliph,Umar.you mistake yourself as the "spokesperson" for the Quran so you raised such a topic intending to voice authority on Quranic matters.
since you insist that you are a "Quran-only muslim" (as if other Muslims contradict the Quran by following hadiths,or as if the hadith is hindu scripture),and that there is no "hadith" (i.e. narration,explanation or literature) that "guides" you except the Quran,you should not have mistranslated verse 4:24 firstly.secondly,you should not have fit in your own notion/words of prohibiting what God has permitted to pass for your "Quran-only" impression.i mean you should bring a verse that Allah (swt) states categorically that "temporary marriage" otherwise known as "pleasure marriage", in relation to the word "mu'tah", is forbidden.otherwise,as the "Quran-only" muslim you deceive others to believe you are,i actually would have expected you to embrace mut'ah marriage as something permissible (regardless if we embark on doing it or not,as it is not an obligation that a muslim must do it if the circumstances/situation do(es) arise),since the Shia to a very large extent only depend on verse 4:24 of the Holy Quran to prove the eligibility of performing mut'ah marriage.perhaps,since authentic hadiths from sunni sources are used by the Shia to explain the "cause of revelation" of verse 4:24,you deemed it necessary to oppose mut'ah marriage, while ignoring the Arabic grammar in the verse which is enough to establish the case for mut'ah.in other words you just want to stir controversy and argue with those greater than you in Islamic knowledge,who do not deny their history out of paranoia and being intimidated by hadith literature.an heretical movement of about 50 years old that you follow cannot or rather should not attempt to challenge the Shia Islamic movement which is a movement as old as Islam itself dating to the very days of the holy Prophet (sa),the very religion you want to claim.the essence of Islam is the Shia movement,or rather the latter is just simply islam itself.just maintain silence/calm.dont venture into muddy waters where your Sunni masters have and failed.keep arguing with your masters and convince them to throw away bukhari and muslim.do that first and don't bite off more than you can chew.
|Re: Temporary Marriage: Does Quran Allow It? by BetaThings: 2:01am On Aug 09, 2013|
usisky:I don't agree with your "Qur,an only" doctrine
ButI agree that temporary marriage is haraam. It was permitted at a time (given the history of Arabs) but it is now forbidden
Just like alcohol was allowed (given the history of the Arabs) and was abrogated in stages
Sunnis unanimously AGREE that temporary marriage is forbidden
|Re: Temporary Marriage: Does Quran Allow It? by LagosShia: 12:43pm On Aug 09, 2013|
pseudo-scholar,alcohol was never permitted by Islam.simply because the Prophet (sa) met arabs getting drunk in his initial part of his mission doesn't mean it was the Prophet (sa) himself who permitted alcohol.i am not surprised with such exposition by you when your very own scholars claim that even the Prophet (sa) "might" have consumed alcohol.
as for temporary marriage,i don't know why the Prophet (sa) allow what was forbidden and then prohibit it.the truth about the matter as already explained is that Sunnis do not deny temporary marriage was permitted by the Prophet (sa).Sunnis say it was permitted and later prohibited.the Shia on the other hand believe it was never the Prophet (sa) who later prohibited it,but Umar-second sunni caliph-long after the Prophet's (sa) demise.there is no need to go over this again.many threads already exist on the topic.the positions of both camps is clear,and to you your own and to me my own.the Shia principle remains: whatever is permitted is permissible from the beginning of creation and after the Hereafter.and whatever is forbidden is prohibited from the beginning of time till after Qiyama.Allah (swt) does not change His mind and therefore does not change His laws.
|Re: Temporary Marriage: Does Quran Allow It? by BetaThings: 4:19pm On Aug 09, 2013|
|Re: Temporary Marriage: Does Quran Allow It? by LagosShia: 9:53pm On Aug 09, 2013|
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