Ms_Steph: Dis tin too long I no read am finish. D tin with most of our religious books both bible nd koran dey can give u reasons why sumtin is wrong nd another reason y shld shld do it. To me wine is not bad but wen u over drink it nd get drunk dats wen it is bad.

taiocol: No 4 states 'What you need to
remember ...
And do not get drunk with
wine,
for that is debauchery, but be
filled with the Spirit. ―
Ephesians 5:18'

lanrexlan: Yeah,but proverbs gives the full authority

Mazi_Omenuko:

I find it amusing that you guys decide to quote a version of the bible that suits your logic. What you quoted up there is an adulterated version of the bible.

The original King James version of Eph 5: 18 states " And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.

Keyword being "where in excess".

Stop quoting Queen Elizabeth version of the bible.

taiocol: No 4 states 'What you need to
remember ...
And do not get drunk with
wine,
for that is debauchery, but be
filled with the Spirit. ―
Ephesians 5:18'

oliidell:

Maazi, even without the 'in excess', the above post stil butresses ur point. 'Do not drink' is different from 'Do not get drunk.' I don't work for Nigerian Breweries but pls let's not misquote the bible.

lanrexlan: The bible advise christians to drink wine and beer to forget their sorrows.
Proverbs 31:6-7 (NIV)- Give beer to those who are perishing,wine to those who are in anguish;let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.
The bible also recommends wine in preference to water.
1 Timothy 5:23 (NIV) -Stop drinking only water,and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.

sseunth: well,to me drinking is not the sin.....geting drunk is the sin

The Law of the Tithe
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. 23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. 24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, 27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. 28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Deuteronomy+14%3A+22-29&ver=kjv

azeezlateefah: in ISLAM anything that will intoxicate you is forbiden....Christianity is Man made joor...gbagbe Oshi...

taiocol: We do not need the Bible to be
telling us this, most of us have
tried and tested ways to claim
the same. Alcohol, in whatever
form, has at some point of time
caused us to do things
differently. In the very essence of
it, the Scripture does not
encourage you to sin against
your conscience, thus, forbidding
you from doing anything that will
offend yourself and your fellow
beings, in particular.
Consuming alcohol, on the whole,
is not really condemned but
letting yourself give in to
drunkenness, which will lead to a
loss in sobriety, is definitely
looked down upon. Finally, what
matters is not allowing anything
to overpower the mind and the
body, for that which is
overpowered is enslaved.

plasgidy: guys pls which bible quotation said, not that that gowet into a mans mouth defilet a man but that that comet out of a mans mouth, for what gos in to the mouth enters the belly and comes out trough the botom

LagosShia:

on the issue of alcohol consumption the bible is at best contradictory if not confusing.there are verses (see my post above) that prohibit drinking alcohol.there are verses which only speak against drunkenness.there are verses which allow alcohol.and we can also understand that there is a verse which promotes drunkenness (proverbs 31:6-9).

wolajumoke: @lanrexlan
You are harmering on Proverbs 31:6-7 & 1 Timothy 5:23
The 2 verses NEVER support drinking. If you are looking for bible verse to support your action, sorry none of the 2 support it. here is the analysis.

1. Proverbs 31:6-7 (NIV)- Give beer to those who are perishing,wine to those who are in anguish;let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.

Here, Proverb said give wine to those PERISHING or in ANGUISH. Are you experiencing any of the two? Then how will you say the bible ask EVERYONE to drink?

2) 1 Timothy 5:23 (NIV) -Stop drinking only water,and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
He was asked to drink wine for his ILLNESS not pleasure

LagosShia: Condemnation of Drinking altogether:

Proverbs 23:31-32
31 Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!
32 In the end it bites like a snake and poisons like a viper.

Romans 14:21
It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

Luke 1:15
15 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit [a]while yet in his mother’s womb.

Daniel 1:8
But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank.

Habakkuk 2:15
Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken.

Hosea 4:11
11*w*h*o*r*e*d*o*m and wine and new wine take away the heart

Judges 13:4
Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink and that you do not eat anything unclean

Judges 13:7
She must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, nor drink any wine or other fermented drink nor eat anything unclean. She must do everything I have commanded her.”

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Condemnation of Alcohol and Drunkenness:

Deuteronomy 29:6
You ate no bread and drank no wine or other fermented drink. I did this so that you might know that I am the LORD your God.”

Isaiah 5:11
11 Woe to those who rise early in the morning to run after their drinks, who stay up late at night till they are inflamed with wine.

Judges 13:4
Drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing.

Proverbs 31:4
It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to take strong drink,

Jeremiah 35:14
Jonadab ... commanded his sons not to drink wine ... unto this day they drink none, but obey their father's commandment.

Galatians 5:21
Drunkenness ... and such like ... they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

pafestula: He who drinks get drunk,
He who get drunk fall asleep,
He who fall asleep don't sin,
He who don't sin goes to heaven,
So what's your point?

Wats dis one saying

To really know what the Bible says about drinking, we ought to be clear what it meant by the word wine. Wine, for instance, was the common drink in ancient times, and Biblical scholars are of the view that, the water available for drinking contained pollutants and harmful microbes, which made it unfit for consumption. From what is believed, the alcohol content in wine was needed to kill these microbes, and also to keep ailments and infections at bay.

spongeback: Jesus turned water to wine=====>Not fruit juice

Rexnegro: Whether beer or anytin , drink but don't be drunk...that's the ultimate tin abt drinking Jare.

DEIFIED: me i dont even drink water.

ighoosagie: Wats dis one saying