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The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by BetaThings: 7:53pm On Sep 05, 2013
A few months ago, a Shia-scholar, the clean-shaven Shehata who was based in that country was murdered in Egypt. This was done by people who took matters into their hands, contrary to normal Islamic rules
However the Shia cult have been saying that the late Shehata was a martyr. Now this is where, going by the standard of the Shia, I differ
Why?

Shehata was notorious for publicly abusing figures held in high esteem by Sunnis. The video below reveal some of the utterly provocative statements he made
(1) He made these statements while living in a predominantly sunni country
(2) If anyone made such a statement about Khomeini (late) in Tehran, he would not last 24hours
This is really an open challenge to people who doubt it -make a negative statement about late Khomeini publicly in Tehran
So why should a serial abuser of sunni figures become a martyr while a sunni murdered for doing the same will not be regarded by shias as a martyr
(3) Infact the video shows a SHIA scholar confirm that they have rules for killing people who abuse SHIA figures. He tried to justify the rule by saying sunnis have similar rules
So by this standard when did Shehata become a Martyr?
BTW the Shias have been calling him moderate - please judge if his views are moderate by the standards of cultured people!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZLBy5zH20

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Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by LagosShia: 12:30am On Sep 06, 2013
you are a supporter of criminality, terrorism and intolerance. and I would stop short of saying your religion permit that for you, out of respect for the Egyptian sunnis (non-salafists/wahhabis of course) who were shocked by the horrific act the sunni salafists/wahhabis perpetrated. the Egyptians held that everyone is free to believe as he pleases, a stance and attitude presently alien to many sunnis, particularly the salafists/Wahhabis.

it is really ridiculous you described him as "clean shaven".in my view, it is better to be clean shaven than to have someone with a filthy/smelly/disheveled beard that is not well taken care of as is the case with many who claim religious titles. besides, sheikh shehata was an Al-azhar sunni sheikh before he found truth in the path of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and turned shia.there are many al-azhar Egyptian sunni sheikhs who do not maintain a beard as sunnah dictates, and they are clean shaven.

your comparison of Aisha to Khomeini is just out of the picture. you are obviously ashamed or bothered at the criminal act your fellows have committed so you are finding way to justify it, or to make two wrongs a right. i wonder if those thousands of ordinary Shia civilians randomly murdered in terrorist suicide bomb attacks in Pakistan and Iraq also go about recording speeches offensive to sunnis. they don't, but the criminals follow the same path of killing and terror which is anti-Islamic: wahhabism/salafism. also,Aisha to the Shia is a matter of faith in opposing her, just as opposing the tyrannical fir'awn and supporting Musa (as) makes one a Muslim. Aisha declared war on the Imam of her time in the battle of jamal, regardless of the excuses you would shower for her. to the Shia particularly loyalty to Imam Ali (as) or any of the 12 holy Imams of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) translates to loyalty to Prophet Muhammad (sa).and I am in no mood to go over that topic (battle of jamal) again. according to the sunni shariah, a person who revolt against the rightful and just imam of the time is an apostate and a kaffir that should be punished with death for treason against the state. you are here talking about an historical figure that divided the ummah out of her hatred for the imam of her time, Imam Ali Ibn Abi Taleb (as).what has Khomeini (qs) done for him to deserve to be insulted by comparing him to someone who revolted against the imam of her time? did Khomeini divide the muslims or his people,or stood by them to lead them out of bondage after a popular revolution? also, till I witness Iranian Shia or Iranian proponents of the Islamic regime lynching someone to death in iran for insulting Khomeini, you should save your breath. go to Saudi Arabia,you find security men flogging pilgrims in makkah and medinah. heck,hundreds of pilgrims were killed in 1987 by the saudi Wahhabi forces.there are Shia and Iranians who dislike Ayatollah Khomeini and Ayatollah Khamanei, and it is their choice. and last but not the least,Sheikh Shehata was a follower of the Shirazi marji'iyyah, and was very opposed to the Iranian regime. he was no fan of the Islamic republic of iran in a way that made him more opposed than a sunni would be.to my knowledge there are many sunni scholars from within and outside iran very much aligned with the Iranian government and its policies. but the Shia scholars and followers who look up to Ayatollah Sadeq Shirazi for spiritual guidance are totally opposed to the Iranian regime. yet when Sheikh Shehata was lynched to death, both those who approved of his behavior/attitude and those opposed to it were shocked and condemned the act,and they included both shia and sunnis. the followers of the Shirazi scholars are very much outspoken against controversial historical figures,and they do not care about offending sunnis as the followers of Khamanei care.the supporters of Ayatollah Khamanei did not jubilate because Sheikh Shehata was murdered. (if someone does wrong, prosecute him-not lynch him to death; during the rule of Mubarak, Sheikh Shehata was imprisoned).in fact Iranian clerics loyal to the regime in iran complained bitterly and also wrote letter of protest to al-azhar at the salafist extremism after the horrific act. what happened in Egypt by Egyptian account was barbaric and unprecedented. if it is not the shia,the salafists attack Coptic churches in Egypt.would you also justify that because Christians ascribe a son to God,and say they are insulting God? not at all can violence be justified based on people's right to choose to believe what they want to believe. yet we have someone like you in Nigeria whose guilty conscience would lead him to justify terror. two wrongs don't make a right. if sheikh shehata was sunni lynched by a shia mob in Iraq, iran, lebanon, bahrain or Azerbaijan (shia majority muslim countries) instigated by shia clerics, i would consider my faith as a shia after condemning the act. but here you have sunni salafists carrying out an horrific act at the instigation of salafist clerics and the ousted salafist president morsi.it was so relieving for Egyptians and muslims generally (with the exception of extremists) that morsi was ousted, because Egyptians themselves could no longer accommodate/bear extremism and intolerance the rule of the salafist brotherhood brought to Egypt just within a short year.

your video stinks of extremism and terror. they are jubilating murder as "the wrath of Allah". there were prophets of Allah (swt) who were murdered and harmed like John the Baptist (as)-he was beheaded.that by no means signify Allah's wrath, or that the enemies of John (as) were on the right path. those who commit murder in Allah's name and harm men of God are nothing but criminals far from doing the will of Allah (swt).

BetaThings: A few months ago, a Shia-scholar, the clean-shaven Shehata who was based in that country was murdered in Egypt. This was done by people who took matters into their hands, contrary to normal Islamic rules
However the Shia cult have been saying that the late Shehata was a martyr. Now this is where, going by the standard of the Shia, I differ
Why?

Shehata was notorious for publicly abusing figures held in high esteem by Sunnis. The video below reveal some of the utterly provocative statements he made
(1) He made these statements while living in a predominantly sunni country
(2) If anyone made such a statement about Khomeini (late) in Tehran, he would not last 24hours
This is really an open challenge to people who doubt it -make a negative statement about late Khomeini publicly in Tehran
So why should a serial abuser of sunni figures become a martyr while a sunni murdered for doing the same will not be regarded by shias as a martyr
(3) Infact the video shows a SHIA scholar confirm that they have rules for killing people who abuse SHIA figures. He tried to justify the rule by saying sunnis have similar rules
So by this standard when did Shehata become a Martyr?
BTW the Shias have been calling him moderate - please judge if his views are moderate by the standards of cultured people!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZLBy5zH20
Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by BetaThings: 12:54am On Sep 06, 2013
LagosShia: you are a supporter of criminality, .........
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Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by LagosShia: 1:11am On Sep 06, 2013
BetaThings:
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you are silenced and so shall it be forever!
Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by vedaxcool(m): 8:15am On Sep 06, 2013
BetaThings: A few months ago, a Shia-scholar, the clean-shaven Shehata who was based in that country was murdered in Egypt. This was done by people who took matters into their hands, contrary to normal Islamic rules
However the Shia cult have been saying that the late Shehata was a martyr. Now this is where, going by the standard of the Shia, I differ
Why?

Shehata was notorious for publicly abusing figures held in high esteem by Sunnis. The video below reveal some of the utterly provocative statements he made
(1) He made these statements while living in a predominantly sunni country
(2) If anyone made such a statement about Khomeini (late) in Tehran, he would not last 24hours
This is really an open challenge to people who doubt it -make a negative statement about late Khomeini publicly in Tehran
So why should a serial abuser of sunni figures become a martyr while a sunni murdered for doing the same will not be regarded by shias as a martyr
(3) Infact the video shows a SHIA scholar confirm that they have rules for killing people who abuse SHIA figures. He tried to justify the rule by saying sunnis have similar rules
So by this standard when did Shehata become a Martyr?
BTW the Shias have been calling him moderate - please judge if his views are moderate by the standards of cultured people!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZLBy5zH20

Another problem is that he actually invoke Allah's wrath upon him if he is lying, he even cursed Ali r.a, yet u see the rafidies calling him martyr,

In the following clip you can see how Hassan Shaheta (back then when he was in Qom) cursed the Ahl Al-Sunnah and Sahaba left and right. In the following clip Allah exposed him by making him say what was hidden in his heart. He wanted to curse NINE of the al-`Ashara al-Mubasharîn bi-l-Janna i.e. The Ten Promised Paradise amongst the companions of the Messenger of Allah (صل الله عليه و على آله و سلم). Why (obviously) nine? Well, because according to the Ahl Al-Sunnah, one of those ten is Ali Ibn Abi Talib, so a Shia can’t just say that may Allah curse the ten sahaba who were promised Paradise according to the Sunni. Even Shia child knows that even, but Shehata seemd to had lost the plot long time ago and thus in one of his famous speeches he LITERALLY cursed all the ten promised paradise WITHOUT any exception.


http://youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8k4clSHQDEc


Hassan Shehata then responded by saying that Aisha the WIVE of the Prophet (he LITERALLY ADDED THAT!) was a Fasiqah and criminal who hurted the Ahl Al-Bayt and unjustly killed Muslims, so may the curse of Allah be upon her/the wrath of Allah be upon her or the WRATH of Allah upon me (Shehata), if I am a liar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=29PPYf0l3Wk


Even Egyptian Christians do not behave in such a manner yet some cultist did what non muslims would never do in the presence of other Muslims! Something is wrong with these people indeed!

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Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by vedaxcool(m): 8:41am On Sep 06, 2013
Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by Zhulfiqar1: 10:26am On Sep 06, 2013
vedaxcool:

Another problem is that he actually invoke Allah's wrath upon him if he is lying, he even cursed Ali r.a, yet u see the rafidies calling him martyr,

http://youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8k4clSHQDEc

Hassan Shehata then responded by saying that Aisha the WIVE of the Prophet (he LITERALLY ADDED THAT!) was a Fasiqah and criminal who hurted the Ahl Al-Bayt and unjustly killed Muslims, so may the curse of Allah be upon her/the wrath of Allah be upon her or the WRATH of Allah upon me (Shehata), if I am a liar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=29PPYf0l3Wk

Someone swear and asks for God's wrath to descend on him if he is lying.you go ahead to lynch him,parade his body and then jubilate that that is the wrath of God.are you salafist criminals claiming to be God who aportion divine wrath on fellow humans? Well such criminals are definitely not God but a curse to humanity and human existence.abu lahab could have conviniently claimed that it was God's wrath when the holy Prophet (s) was stoned in taif.or as yazeed claimed that the killing of the Prophet's (s) grandson-Imam Hussein (as)-in karbala was revenge for what the Prophet (s) did to his elders in badr.same criminal jahiliyyah ummayyad thinking!


Even Egyptian Christians do not behave in such a manner yet some cultist did what non muslims would never do in the presence of other Muslims! Something is wrong with these people indeed!

Oh yeah try to seek sympathy of non-muslims to justify your support for criminals.but again you have failed in your claim.check youtube for videos of Father Zakaria Boutros,the egyptian coptic priest who appears on the evangelical arabic al-hayat satellite channel,and listen to his pure and plain insults on islam,the Prophet (s) and muslims.your salafist sunni brothers in alqaeda went as far as placing a 60 million dollars bounty on him.
Re: The Shia Shehata Story Revisited by maclatunji: 11:20am On Sep 06, 2013
Thread locked for breeding sectarianism and being a fertile ground for offensive comments.

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