obadiah777: scripture do say our people are stiff necked and rebellious. i believe in the yoruba dialect ( seeing as both Goshen and debosky are yoruba ) it is called olori agbon or to the unenlightened, coconut head

ayobase:

A point to be noted.


That's about 12,000 years difference.

Can one say 12,000 yrs difference according to man's, but 12 days difference according to God's?

obadiah777: listen chief. we are obviously not going to see things each others way so we shall agree to disagree but peruse these verses

ezekiel 34 vs 5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. <<< israel scattered amongst the gentiles as prey

daniel 2 vs 38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. <<< nebuchadnezzer as ruler over all men both israel and gentiles

hosea 2 vs 8 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely. <<< making a covenant with animals ?

joel 1 vs 20 The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness. <<< beasts of the field cry unto the lord

joel 2 vs 22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.

jeremiah 12 vs 4 How long shall the land mourn, and the herbs of every field wither, for the wickedness of them that dwell therein? the beasts are consumed, and the birds; because they said, He shall not see our last end. <<< talking beasts

ayobase: Mosthigh: No vex ehn. Its obvious u have no idea!

Obadiah: Ur explanation has been very educational, despite the fact that I'm still STRUGGLING to accept some of your theories ("technically"

And you can't be sure u are 100% correct so far. Are you 100% sure?

U believe that the book of Genesis is an allegory, can u explain God, fellowship, Adam, Eve, the tree, apple, the serpent, the curse, the fig leaves in the picture?

How can one explain Eve being created out of Adam's rib by God?


I have been trying not pick questions from ur explanations!

Goshen and debosky: I have no question for u guys cos we share the same view....so, I do understand ur points.

But, I do really wanna understand what obadiah is saying.



Obadiah, u can as well give me a link to avoiding avoidable typing....thanks!

debosky:

This is a purely metaphorical. It doesn't call gentiles beasts and Jews humans as you claim Genesis does - that claim is baseless.



No - this is simply describing the extent of Nebu's kingdom - he ruled over people, and literal animals. The animals here do not represent Gentiles, since Nebu was Gentile king in the first place - if it was referring to animals, Nebu himself would've been called an animal. There is no need to differentiate between Israelites and Gentiles in this passage.



Not sure what passage this is, but it isn't Hosea 2:8.



This is talking about literal beasts, not to Gentiles, demonstrating the severity of the drought. Even beasts are God's creation and suffer when there is drought.



Again, like the verse above, this is referring to literal animals - God takes care of all his creation including the animals.



You like to take things out of context, based on your inflexible insistence on the KJV - this is better rendered thus:

How long must this land mourn? Even the grass in the fields has withered.
The wild animals and birds have disappeared because of the evil in the land. For the people have said, “The Lord doesn’t see what’s ahead for us!”

Again, animals here are demonstrating the extent of the suffering - even the animals and the land suffer for the sins of the people. It is people talking.

ayobase: According to Genesis 1:22-27, "26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

God created these set of people on the sixth day.

And in Genesis 2:7-8 "7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


I would have said the latter was the manifestation of the former, but Cain's issue complicated things in Genesis 4:16-17. He found a wife in the land of Nod and married there. I don't think Adam and Eve gave birth to those!


Back to the question or conclusion, one can certianly say God created some set of people before Adam and Eve.

SMIG: by sisters u mean children of adam and eve....@ dat time they were only 4 on earth...and after God cursed abel and he pleaded he had this 2 to say'this punishment is too hard, i'll have 2 wander about without a home and just anyone could kill me(meaning there are more humans)' God replied (acknowledging d fact that there are more humans) 'anyone who kills u would be punished seven times worse than i am punishing you, so the lord put a mark on him to warn EVERYONE not to kill him' my question is what does evryone means?...i understand it to mean people dnknw about u?

Goshen360: Genesis 5:4 proves Adam had other sonS and daughterS within his 800 years on earth. So read the whole of chapter 5 now.

ayobase: Mosthigh: No vex ehn. Its obvious u have no idea!

Obadiah: Ur explanation has been very educational, despite the fact that I'm still STRUGGLING to accept some of your theories ("technically"

And you can't be sure u are 100% correct so far. Are you 100% sure?

U believe that the book of Genesis is an allegory, can u explain God, fellowship, Adam, Eve, the tree, apple, the serpent, the curse, the fig leaves in the picture?

How can one explain Eve being created out of Adam's rib by God?


I have been trying not pick questions from ur explanations!

Goshen and debosky: I have no question for u guys cos we share the same view....so, I do understand ur points.

But, I do really wanna understand what obadiah is saying.



Obadiah, u can as well give me a link to avoiding avoidable typing....thanks!

ayobase: According to Genesis 1:22-27, "26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

God created these set of people on the sixth day.

And in Genesis 2:7-8 "7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


I would have said the latter was the manifestation of the former, but Cain's issue complicated things in Genesis 4:16-17. He found a wife in the land of Nod and married there. I don't think Adam and Eve gave birth to those!


Back to the question or conclusion, one can certianly say God created some set of people before Adam and Eve.

Judas2013: Does anyone believe a snake could talk literally to Eve.... if you do you are a fool...ode!

Goshen360:

They were not only four people on earth then, Adam and Eve had MANY other children (males n females) aside Cain n Abel not recorded their names. Try read genesis from chapter 2 forward. I can't do much typing now cos I'm typing from my phone.

LEXYCOM: Before anything is done in physical, it must have been settle in the spiritual....In gen 1, God created man and woman in the spiritual by speaking words.....but in Gen 2, he created Adam and Eve physically base on the word He spoke earlier......Let somebody shout hallelujah......?

Goshen360:

Cain married from one of his sisters. We have dealt with this topic before on this forum. You can do a search and edify yourself.

Judas2013: no evidence god created anything. only the fools believe it did

Billyonaire: The entire Bible Stories about creation and origin of man is WRONG. Who ever is interested in proves, scientific and physical that ported from mars can go to my profile and play the video on my thread named "spirit science".

odagu1863:
Genesis 5:4
New King James Version (NKJV)
4 After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters.

Brother u clinched this.. this is a perfect answer to this puzzle.. no more no less

odagu1863:
Genesis 5:4
New King James Version (NKJV)
4 After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters.

Brother u clinched this.. this is a perfect answer to this puzzle.. no more no less