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| Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 11:15pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Billions can be fooled, but I wont be. Simple Biology states and proves that Egg and Sperm MUST fuse to form an embryo, and fetus - the precursors of babies. It baffles me, that billions of people, both Christians, and non-Christians, believe that Holy Spirit had sperm, had sex with Mary and fathered Jesus. Something is definitely wrong with many humans, but not Billyonaire. I refuse to believe this, and I conclude that the Virgin Birth of Jesus - is the Most Acceptable Lie, most unquestionable Lie. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Alexchubee(m): 11:28pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Sorry for 4 you cus d just shall live by faith. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 11:40pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Alex chubee: Sorry for 4 you cus d just shall live by faith.Faith has turned your brain to block. Think! 10 Likes |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 11:40pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Billions can be fooled, but I wont be. Simple Biology states and proves that Egg and Sperm MUST fuse to form an embryo, and fetus - the precursors of babies. Can you explain the full genesis of the existence of life? Explain why it was the sperm called billyonaire and not the other sperm called trillionaire that fertilised the egg? Then we can discus 1 Like |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 11:41pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
flexshop:Do not derail. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Rossikk(m): 11:48pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Billions can be fooled, but I wont be. Simple Biology states and proves that Egg and Sperm MUST fuse to form an embryo, and fetus - the precursors of babies. You're even assuming there was a ''Jesus Christ'' in the first place. Of course common sense should tell us that if the virgin conception claim is a lie, his very existence as a person going by that identity is open to question. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 11:50pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Do not derail. Actually I'm not derailing. I was trying to get a headstart from you to prove a thesis to you.I'm a scientist and researcher, I also did 3yrs philosophy and 1yr theology.I'm trying to blend religion and science together to help you understand why what is is and why what is not,cannot be |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 11:57pm On Sep 24, 2013 |
flexshop: Do you believe a Jesus was born without sexual intercourse? |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:01am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Rossikk: Actually I do believe there was a Jesus. He was as human as you and I. But virgin birth? How is that even possible. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Javanian: 12:02am On Sep 25, 2013 |
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| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Extom(m): 12:05am On Sep 25, 2013 |
If you want to see it from that angle, you will run into crisis because there are numerous instances where the bible(spiritual) and science(physical) disagrees. Eg, take Samson, when he made the sun stand still for the whole day(spiritually possible, physically IMPOSSI-CANT) There are too many examples, but let's just be wise, have faith, and hope we get to a point where it won't be a mystery to us anymore. Its well... |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:05am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Javanian: @op these are spiritual things, you don't use your carnal mind to understand them. Mary was a virgin physically but not spiritually because yahweh had sex with her in spirit with his spiritual dick, can't you see. You need the holy spirit to understand this thingsConception, Pregnancy and birth are biological NOT spiritual. And yes, I have the holy spirit but I still need my brains. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:07am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Extom: If you want to see it from that angle, you will run into crisis because there are numerous instances where the bible(spiritual) and science(physical) disagrees.The story of Sampson and sun standing still is yet another story like virgin birth. Lots of holes in them. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Rossikk(m): 12:07am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Of course there was ''a Jesus''. There were THOUSANDS of people named 'Jesus' (Yeshua) in that region!! It's as crazy as saying ''there was a man named Adebayo who lived in Ife 2000 years ago and was really a nice bloke who loved to help people, and even had some mystic powers''. WELL OF COURSE THERE WAS!!! There HAD TO BE!! (Get the point?) 2 Likes |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 12:09am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Yes I do. Now do you believe that in spermatogenesis, lifeless substances combine to form a sperm which fertilises an egg to produce a lifeform?? |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:14am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Rossikk:Rossik, you are funny yet thats thoughtful. 1 Like |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:18am On Sep 25, 2013 |
flexshop:Biogenetics and Natural reproduction are clear. But Jesus was conceived, and Bible states that Spirit overwhelmed Mary. Could overwhelm mean sex? Then since spirit has no possibility of ejaculation then some man must have impregnated Mary. The story dont just add up. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:24am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Note 1. Jeconiah, who is the ancestor of Jesus of Nazareth is cursed. No one from his bloodline can be the Jewish Messiah (The king of Israel). Jeconiah is recorded in Matthews genealogy as the ancestor of Jesus of Nazareth through his father. Because of this reason Matthew said that Jesus had no father but that he was born of a virgin. He used a mistranslated text of Isaiah 7:14, he also misinterpreted Isaiah 7:14 in order to make his case work. Note 2: Isaiah 7:14 which the christians hold as prophetic evidence on Jesus virgin birth didn't translate as 'virgin' but 'young woman'. Note 3: Roman 1:3 stated that Jesus was a product of sperm and egg. The verse said Jesus is a seed (sperm) from the lineage of David. Man own seed....thats what we know. Therefore, billions of christian have been feed with lies 1 Like |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 12:28am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Biogenetics and Natural reproduction are clear. But Jesus was conceived, and Bible states that Spirit overwhelmed Mary. Could overwhelm mean sex? Then since spirit has no possibility of ejaculation then some man must have impregnated Mary. The story dont just add up. Lol, I'm trying to let you know that the fact that science says so and so combined to form so and so isn't absolute. If you can believe that various nucleic acids came together to form a dna which formed chromosomes imbedded in a protein to give rise to a lifeform, why is it hard to believe that an eternal force can trigger the same event in a human beign?? I can prove to you that stem cells can be grown in the nearest future from mere elements that we don't think can be possible now.we would have an explosion in science in the next 50 yrs that would seem impossible now.if we can believe that biogenetics can make our fantasies come to pass, why can't we believe that a supernatural force can cause conception outside the natural course?what I have learnt so far is that there a re no untruths and the word impossibility is a mirage |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:29am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Biogenetics and Natural reproduction are clear. But Jesus was conceived, and Bible states that Spirit overwhelmed Mary. Could overwhelm mean sex? Then since spirit has no possibility of ejaculation then some man must have impregnated Mary. The story dont just add up. Spirit of the bible had sex. Fallen angels and daughter of Men. That produces Giants....that Gen 6. Read book of Enoch for clarification. Spirit of the bible walk, eat and wrestle physically with men. When God walk in the garden, his foot make some sound. If Joseph was not the father of Jesus then angel Gabriel had s.ex with mary because matthew called Jesus child of holy spirit |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:32am On Sep 25, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: Note 1. Jeconiah, who is the ancestor of Jesus of Nazareth is cursed. No one from his bloodline can be the Jewish Messiah (The king of Israel). Jeconiah is recorded in Matthews genealogy as the ancestor of Jesus of Nazareth through his father. Because of this reason Matthew said that Jesus had no father but that he was born of a virgin. He used a mistranslated text of Isaiah 7:14, he also misinterpreted Isaiah 7:14 in order to make his case work.Remarkable. I thought as much, there are no doubts that Mary may have been disvirgined during intercourse to bring forth Lord Jesus, which counters the virgin birth analogy but what begs for answer is "Who actually impregnated Mary?"... |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by MrTroll(m): 12:35am On Sep 25, 2013 |
flexshop:what exactly are you getting at? Is it ever possible for a baby to form without the joining of a sperm to an egg? By what basis do you believe the immaculate conception? Spiritual omni omniness  |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 12:35am On Sep 25, 2013 |
billy, I have been a student of darwinism for years, I have also come in contact with various great evolutionists like lamark et al. If you believe darwins hypothesis on evolution, why then would believing the bible version difficult? How on earth would a reptile change to an amphibian, adapt to life on earth and continue metamorphosing without going extinct? Is it a bacteria? Those are crazy theories we believe.I for one believe in the immaculate conception 101% |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 12:39am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Mr Troll: what exactly are you getting at? Is it ever possible for a baby to form without the joining of a sperm to an egg? By what basis do you believe the immaculate conception? Spiritual omni omniness The basis is beyond human understanding. Science is an evolving field, maybe one day we would understand or never.in the year 1402, did anyone ever believe that we would be able to clone lifeforms from stem cells? |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:39am On Sep 25, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: I call my lady angel sometimes and she calls me angel too and we have sex. Is it the type of angel you mean ? Or are you referring to the Lemurians who came from Mars, build the Egyptian Pyramids as flight contour for the spaceships ? Yes those are advance humanoid species that actually cultivate us. May be thats what bible narrators call angels, but there are evidences that they are our precursor and they had sex with humans often. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:41am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Remarkable. I thought as much, there are no doubts that Mary may have been disvirgined during intercourse to bring forth Lord Jesus, which counters the virgin birth analogy but what begs for answer is "Who actually impregnated Mary?"... Joseph or Holy spirit did impregnate her |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 12:41am On Sep 25, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: this is what I call fallacy of generalization. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:43am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Whatever bible call sons of God...angel or holy spirit. They had sex |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by Nobody: 12:44am On Sep 25, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE:Likely Joseph not holy spirit cos spirit is not physical being but just energy. |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:44am On Sep 25, 2013 |
flexshop: You said. Proof me wrong |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:47am On Sep 25, 2013 |
Billyonaire: Likely Joseph not holy spirit cos spirit is not physical being but just energy. We are on the same page. Get me right, I said holy spirit as depicted in the bible. God in the bible wrestle with man.... Concept of God there is wrong Holy spirit eat meat and drink wine.... Holy spirit hold swords God walk on his foot... Whatever the bible depict or call holy spirit is not my problem.....it either Joseph or Holy spirit had s.ex with Mary |
| Re: Virgin Birth Of Jesus - Most Acceptable Lie, Most Unquestionable Lie. by flexshop(m): 12:49am On Sep 25, 2013 |
FOLYKAZE: That I was born through the normal route does it mean others are not born via ceaserian section? |
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