montelik: I think its now pretty clear Carol didn't kill Karen and David. Liz did it, possibly trying to emulate what Carol did when her father was sick. Carol probably saw Liz's actions and felt guilty for all the child soldier/guerilla training she had been giving them and helped dispose of the bodies and took the blame. Tyrese couldn't get mad at little child, much less one who has now saved his life. Carol should have told the truth when Rick banished her.

Wonder if Hershel would have lectured Darryl for arrowing the tank operator as he was surrendering, like he did with Carl.

ogugua88: I'm surprised Rick didn't give the governor a verbal one blow. "He killed his own people. The survivors came here and we've been looking after them since". The only reason the guv had a following was because they had no idea who he was.

I'd like to think that if a new guy comes, two leaders are dead, and he gets an ex-army dude under his wing, I'd know that he's up to no good.

montelik: Abeg, the same Guv that was still dragging with janjala Michonne is now some champion fighter. There is no escaping it, the writer have wussified Rick.

montelik: Amazing how little kids can nail headshots so easily.

Mcbussy:


guy u are right about d plot thing and d writers trying to make d show logical.....but i must disagree with u about d eye thing.i grew up in a military environment and i know alot of shortsighted pple dat use glasses in d military dat would beat d living daylight out of u. i am of d opinion dat i would beat a one legged man even if i had only 1 eye thats short sighted....lol

from d moment Rick was hit in d leg till d end of d episode,he couldnt even stand on his own.d bullet dat hit d Guv was obviously a scratch cos he didnt even seem like sum1 injured even after d incident.

balance is very important in combat....even d military recruits pple with poor vision for some professional roles,but if u have anything as much as a flat foot or rickets u can never pass selection. thats a reflection of how important the limbs are in combat.

i know d senses are important too....but d ability to move is d most important in combat.besides,d Guv wasnt blind or deaf.

montelik: For a moment I almost thought the writers were ready to try something radical. But alas they wimped out to all the riot threats.

ogugua88: Despite all the rushing emotions, my biggest relief was Lilly. In the first few episodes, I've been viewing her as the new Andrea, but she isn't. She's better than Andrea. What took Andrea 2743584246 episodes to see, it took Lilly 3. She didn't budge when the guv tried to charm her by saying "I love you". If na Andrea, sotey she go comot pant for that field. Lilly was very apprehensive, which I liked... just that she had to wait for a walker to chop her pikin before she acted. And yes, Meghan was too far away. They got comfortable.

As for Tara, the loud mumu lol. Even if there was no apocalypse, I think she would've been kicked out of police academy. The way she kept shaking at the sound of fired bullets.

I'm surprised Rick didn't give the governor a verbal one blow. "He killed his own people. The survivors came here and we've been looking after them since". The only reason the guv had a following was because they had no idea who he was. I'd like to think that if a new guy comes, two leaders are dead, and he gets an ex-army dude under his wing, I'd know that he's up to no good.

Afam4eva: I knew Hershel was gonna die sooner or later but i wasn't expecting him to time in such a cruel manner. I was expecting him dying in his sleep or something. I also find it strange that the Governor would choose to kill Hershel before Michone whom he has been itching to kill for a long time. I was expecting him to put a bullet through her the moment he sights her.

This episode was the bomb and it brought back that TWD spirit. I can't believe i have to wait till February to watch the other half of season 4.

Afam4eva: I knew Hershel was gonna die sooner or later but i wasn't expecting him to time in such a cruel manner. I was expecting him dying in his sleep or something. I also find it strange that the Governor would choose to kill Hershel before Michone whom he has been itching to kill for a long time. I was expecting him to put a bullet through her the moment he sights her.

This episode was the bomb and it brought back that TWD spirit. I can't believe i have to wait till February to watch the other half of season 4.

50calibre:


I dont want to go too far into combat analysis, but you probably underestimate the power of sight. Muhammad Ali once said " The hands can't hit what the eyes can't see " those who understand the pugilist trade will tell you sight is invaluable in combat.

Now I'm not saying balance isn't important, I'm just saying I find it far fetched that the governor could so dominate rick ( a cop who has shown good physical skills ) with one eye & bullet in the arm despite rick having the element of surprise, i expected Rick to go for his 2nd eye immediately. In such situation, the adrenaline rush should be enough to numb the pain on the leg.

It's because this is a show, in real life, a grown man delivers a solid punch to your face, it will fracture a bone on your face, it's only in movies we see big guys fighting & still standing.

I don't see the governor as a strong guy, Michone kicked his as*s & punctured his eye for God's sake, I see him as an opportunist who jumps on his victims quickly & overpowers them before they could recover. He might be tall but height counts for nothing when facing a skilful guy, in fact it's a disadvantage, remember Mike Tyson in his heydays?

PhysicsQED:

Michonne's character comes across as tougher than anyone in that group except for maybe Darryl. That the Governor couldn't defeat her when they squared off made sense to me.

The Governor being physically stronger than Rick is entirely believable. Don't see how missing an eye is such a big factor. If somebody's stronger, more aggressive, more enraged/crazed, and just an all around more vicious fighter, that can easily make up for lacking an eye. Then again, they could have been equally strong, but the Governor's murderous rage could have just given him the edge in that particular fight. Either way, there's nothing about the Governor winning that fight that's so unbelievable.

chromatic: So I just watched the Mid-season Finale..
Why the f**k do they have to kill Hershel off! Why!
I thought it would make much sense had the governor to killed Michonne, whom he was boiling for anyways though I understand he did Hershel because he would have more emotional impact on the group...but it should have been Michonne..

This show f**ked up, killing Hershel, then bringing some stupid characters I really could care less about...not even developing them either.

They better keep Daryl, Rick, Carl, Maggie and Glenn or I'm done!...well, a lot of questions and a really long wait till february. I hate all these hiatuses.

VillageBoi:
Straight up. They better not mess the show up as they messed up Person Of Interest... how POI woke up one day and thought they were GOT... smh!

kenlash1: Pls guys I need link to download season 4 episode 8, badally on mobile

venorite:
http://o2tvseries.com/The-Walking-Dead/Season-04/Episode-08/index.html

Lord Orochimaru: So I decided to comment last and officially close this thread till february. Glad it resumes february after my exams. Well, the episode was very ok being a mid-season finale. Herschel had to go, he had played his part earlier in season 3 and also in the early part of season 4 taking care of the sick.there was definitely no way he would survive if michonne had taken the hit and he escaped into the wild. Also, I find it ridiculous that those kids could shoot without feeling the effects of shooting a gun, and with one hand. I think the fight between the guvnor and rick was fair...all in all, a good episode. See y'all in february. Compliments of the season. Good bless

50calibre:

Don't celebrate yet, there might still be a shocker.

I have a feeling Darryl was bitten, didnt it surprise you we weren't shown what transpired between him & that walker?