naptu2:

That's already covered by number 3

Your "oga" above was too general and may be thought of as government officials only. That is why I mentioned the CMDs as well. There are things they could do better with the money they get yearly. The budget of the health ministry is not small compared with other sectors of the economy. What are the CMDs doing with what they get yearly?

oyinmama:
Like I said, the surgery had started before lights went off, the generators were also previously working. Not certain how you would want to stabilize a woman undergoing a Caesarian section, baby out already and continue later .....

Sister abeg free them. People can always claim knowledge in an area where they are glaring illiterates. You did what was best in the circumstance.

As for the post, I honestly do not know what is intended for us to gain. That Nigeria is a failed state is no longer the news , the issue now is what are we doing as the new generation to try and rectify these anomalies and put our dear country in a better pedestel to achieve greater heights

I just found out that the Alausa IPP will also power Lasuth.

oyinmama: It isn't a new occurrence. Back in 2003, I remember using a phone torch to carry on with a Caesarian section at Adeoyo Hospital in Ibadan. PHCN had done its worst during surgery, main generator and back-up had both broken down. We couldn't stop, so we made do with the torch of those small Nokia phones back then to finish. There were also instances when I had to set up intravenous fluid infusion for babies via the scalp using lantern light held up by colleagues.......

Doc, I salute you.

I have seen medics here performing in circumstances indescribable.

As Asiwaju Tinubu said, ours are some of the finest if the facilities are there.

Foa a fact, this rut had been there for long.

In 1983 or thereabout, in Zaria, I watched 2 young Nigerian doctors battling to save the lives
of 2 young women involved in a car accident using, not a lamp but a lantern.

I was with them till 2am. You should come and see how these 2 young men
were sweating as if they were digging a well.

Since then, I would vacate my seat for a medic no matter how young unless he
refuses and most of then would.

Another smart salute for the Nigerian medic.

arctoni:
And ar we supos 2 clap 4 u or wat.......xo u mean dr s notin new se......u ar toyin wit pple's lif

Is it the doctors fault that the hospitals are in a state of decay? These surgeons deserve recognition for working in such conditions. @oyinmama more power to your elbows!

kolidave: I stumbled across this photo today and I was shocked disgraced & embarrassed. What is the health sector of this country turning into. Now I know why people travel abroad to have their medical checkups and treatments..... By looking at the photo,can't imagine what would have happened if there was a casualty during the surgery leading to the loss of life and once again PHCN & GOVERNMENT will be in for it ..... Plz scroll down for the photo.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1359016_poor_naijaaaa_jpg4a8f22867c8a438081ee5b4f4487a05a

How is this the fault of the health sector or the doctors operating. U should even give the doctors medals 4 continuing to work in those conditions. I have seen cases where doctors walk out of a procedure cos NEPA or is it PHCN took light. If only u knew what shit nigerian doctors go through. I have seen worse case scenerios, this is nothing. People u should face are the people that provide electricity and the government. 4 all you know, there may have probably being light when they started but PHCN took it awy so the doctors in order not to waste time continued with rechargeable light. I mean, i have been i such situation b4 so i know what am saying. Its not new in nigeria. 4 people who would travel out 4 surgery cos of this, they can enjoy themselves cos it won't stop the inflow of patient who will still want to be operated even in those conditions. Nigeria, we hail thee.

oyinmama: It isn't a new occurrence. Back in 2003, I remember using a phone torch to carry on with a Caesarian section at Adeoyo Hospital in Ibadan. PHCN had done its worst during surgery, main generator and back-up had both broken down. We couldn't stop, so we made do with the torch of those small Nokia phones back then to finish. There were also instances when I had to set up intravenous fluid infusion for babies via the scalp using lantern light held up by colleagues.......

My sister, i also did similar. Funny enof, u cant get angry cos the patients life may just be in ur hand so u cant just stop then.

Now people are lamenting, when doctors go on strike everybody calls them 'HEARTLESS'. This is just a tip of the iceberg, at least they even had a rechargeable lamp with fluorescent light to work with.

While I'm not proud of it, I have also had a similar experience at a government hospital. Surgery started with generator power unfortunately the generator developed a fault and there was no light and I had a patient with an exposed abdomen on the table.The logical thing was to continue surgery...Intestinal Resection and Anastomosis with a Nokia torch light phone. Thankfully, the patient did quite well with no complications and was discharged home subsequently.

These are the realities on ground. Doctors are clamoring not for higher salaries but for more government funding for postgraduate (residency) positions, better training, better working conditions, etc Ultimately, all this doesn't translate to a better existence for the doctor but better healthcare for the system. If you don't support their cause, you or someone you know may suffer from the collapse of the system.

Unfortunately, too many Nigerians don't analyze issues to a depth they deserve but are passive thinkers and they end up with twisted views and opinions about several issues of national interest.

Na wa oooo!!!! Everybody just dey share likewise experience. So u mean most times,surgeons use rechargeable lamps and lantern to operate? So this is a norm in Nigeria?.... Chai!!! #faintzzzzzz time to start planning to build ma own hospital, ill just remove electricity and generator budget & get regular supply of candles,lamps and lanterns every 3months. that one sef go cut budget. Sounds like a good plan.

fsb: Now people are lamenting, when doctors go on strike everybody calls them 'HEARTLESS'. This is just a tip of the iceberg, at least they even had a rechargeable lamp with fluorescent light to work with.

While I'm not proud of it, I have also had a similar experience at a government hospital. Surgery started with generator power unfortunately the generator developed a fault and there was no light and I had a patient with an exposed abdomen on the table.The logical thing was to continue surgery...Intestinal Resection and Anastomosis with a Nokia torch light phone. Thankfully, the patient did quite well with no complications and was discharged home subsequently.

These are the realities on ground. Doctors are clamoring not for higher salaries but for more government funding for postgraduate (residency) positions, better training, better working conditions, etc Ultimately, all this doesn't translate to a better existence for the doctor but better healthcare for the system. If you don't support their cause, you or someone you know may suffer from the collapse of the system.

Unfortunately, too many Nigerians don't analyze issues to a depth they deserve but are passive thinkers and they end up with twisted views and opinions after several issues of national interest.

And you'd be amazed at some of the results we get despite the difficult circumstances. Some nigerian doctors are just too gangster. They don't know when to quit.

A few years a go, there was a small boy in the ICU of one of our teaching hospitals who had had surgery and wasn't breathing well afterwards and there was no paediatric ventilator in the hospital. In most countries, this boy would have died. But our Nigerian doctors and nurses voluntarily took shifts and manually ventilated this boy non-stop for a whole month. Nobody stopped because they were tired, nobody went to urinate, nobody refused because it wasnt their job. 3 minutes without breathing would have given him brain damage, but for a whole month, there was always someone squeezing the bag and ignoring the pain in their hand.

Gangster.

kolidave: I stumbled across this photo today and I was shocked disgraced & embarrassed. What is the health sector of this country turning into. Now I know why people travel abroad to have their medical checkups and treatments..... By looking at the photo,can't imagine what would have happened if there was a casualty during the surgery leading to the loss of life and once again PHCN & GOVERNMENT will be in for it ..... Plz scroll down for the photo.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1359016_poor_naijaaaa_jpg4a8f22867c8a438081ee5b4f4487a05a

wtf is this

Fynestboi: wtf is this

its surgeons digging for gold ooooo

What prove do u have that this thing happened in Nigeria,
I love my country

Cynluv: What prove do u have that this thing happened in Nigeria,
I love my country

what proof do u want again. Haven't u heard doctors and surgeons sharing their experiences

fsb:
Unfortunately, too many Nigerians don't analyze issues to a depth they deserve but are passive thinkers and they end up with twisted views and opinions after several issues of national interest.

This is a familiar argument that is unfair to Nigerians. If a position does not stand the test of a simple logic and commonsense, it should be condemned irrespective of the depth you take it. As a public servant who has decided to embark on strike (which ought to be a last resort) to address your grievances, you are duty bound to make the reasons known. It is for this reason (among others) doctors keep losing the PR war with govt whenever they go on strike.

fsb: Now people are lamenting, when doctors go on strike everybody calls them 'HEARTLESS'. This is just a tip of the iceberg, at
These are the realities on ground. Doctors are clamoring not for higher salaries but for more government funding for postgraduate (residency) positions, better training, better working conditions, etc Ultimately, all this doesn't translate to a better existence for the doctor but better healthcare for the system. If you don't support their cause, you or someone you know may suffer from the collapse of the system.

You may wish to correct this bc I cant recall when higher salaries was not at the core of a strike called by doctors. No one has said there is anything wrong with a justifiable increase in remuneration. The problem with it is that their action is myopic. I will explain. Doctors are educated people. Nigeria is a third world country with all the problems of govt in the third world especially corruption. Not long ago our lawmakers decided to distinguish themselves in global infamy by awarding themselves stupendous pay packages. This has led to over-the-top govt spending, pressure on the naira with even more inflation. Whatever raise you get will be wiped out by inflation. Doctors like ASUU saw no reason to call for civil disobedience or a strike.

There are other contentious issues like the headship of govt hospitals that is causing so much acrimony and friction. A situation where you have rotation of the headship of Govt hospitals every other year among doctors is laughable and primitive. Is hospital administration in the curricilum at the post graduate college? In which civilized country is this acceptable practice? Certainly not the US or the UK we strive to model clinical delivery after. The result is that there is no sustainable plan. Yes the egos of doctors get a good massage but how does that help the system with respect to service and even accountability. Hospital administration is a course. Any one who desire it should get trained in it. Everything is wrong with entrusting a young man/woman who just left specialist training with a 2billion naira institution when he never managed 5million naira in his life. If this is the depth of issue you talked about then your case is 'dead on arrival'.

Pennywise:

This is a familiar argument that is unfair to Nigerians. If a position does not stand the test of a simple logic and commonsense, it should be condemned irrespective of the depth you take it. As a public servant who has decided to embark on strike (which ought to be a last resort) to address your grievances, you are duty bound to make the reasons known. It is for this reason (among others) doctors keep losing the PR war with govt whenever they go on strike.



You may wish to correct this bc I cant recall when higher salaries was not at the core of a strike called by doctors. No one has said there is anything wrong with a justifiable increase in remuneration. The problem with it is that their action is myopic. I will explain. Doctors are educated people. Nigeria is a third world country with all the problems of govt in the third world especially corruption. Not long ago our lawmakers decided to distinguish themselves in global infamy by awarding themselves stupendous pay packages. This has led to over-the-top govt spending, pressure on the naira with even more inflation. Whatever raise you get will be wiped out by inflation. Doctors like ASUU saw no reason to call for civil disobedience or a strike.

There are other contentious issues like the headship of govt hospitals that is causing so much acrimony and friction. A situation where you have rotation of the headship of Govt hospitals every other year among doctors is laughable and primitive. Is hospital administration in the curricilum at the post graduate college? In which civilized country is this acceptable practice? Certainly not the US or the UK we strive to model clinical delivery after. The result is that there is no sustainable plan. Yes the egos of doctors get a good massage but how does that help the system with respect to service and even accountability. Hospital administration is a course. Any one who desire it should get trained in it. Everything is wrong with entrusting a young man/woman who just left specialist training with a 2billion naira institution when he never managed 5million naira in his life. If this is the depth of issue you talked about then your case is 'dead on arrival'.

Right on the money!

doctors like university profs act like they are not responsible for the budget torun their own hospitals and Schools-
These group of professionals are supposed to be the cream of the society- but managing their own hospitals environment seems to be beyond them! the dirty environment, poor back up plan/generators is not the responsibility of the state/fg.


apart from their god syndrome Naija Doctors are doing a good job by the way

This is one reason why most hospitals in Nigeria deserve to be closed down.

Pennywise:

This is a familiar argument that is unfair to Nigerians. If a position does not stand the test of a simple logic and commonsense, it should be condemned irrespective of the depth you take it. As a public servant who has decided to embark on strike (which ought to be a last resort) to address your grievances, you are duty bound to make the reasons known. It is for this reason (among others) doctors keep losing the PR war with govt whenever they go on strike.



You may wish to correct this bc I cant recall when higher salaries was not at the core of a strike called by doctors. No one has said there is anything wrong with a justifiable increase in remuneration. The problem with it is that their action is myopic. I will explain. Doctors are educated people. Nigeria is a third world country with all the problems of govt in the third world especially corruption. Not long ago our lawmakers decided to distinguish themselves in global infamy by awarding themselves stupendous pay packages. This has led to over-the-top govt spending, pressure on the naira with even more inflation. Whatever raise you get will be wiped out by inflation. Doctors like ASUU saw no reason to call for civil disobedience or a strike.

There are other contentious issues like the headship of govt hospitals that is causing so much acrimony and friction. A situation where you have rotation of the headship of Govt hospitals every other year among doctors is laughable and primitive. Is hospital administration in the curricilum at the post graduate college? In which civilized country is this acceptable practice? Certainly not the US or the UK we strive to model clinical delivery after. The result is that there is no sustainable plan. Yes the egos of doctors get a good massage but how does that help the system with respect to service and even accountability. Hospital administration is a course. Any one who desire it should get trained in it. Everything is wrong with entrusting a young man/woman who just left specialist training with a 2billion naira institution when he never managed 5million naira in his life. If this is the depth of issue you talked about then your case is 'dead on arrival'.

Don't surprised to learn that their main reason for rotational headship is for the money to go round. They can't bear to see one man "chopping alone". Why can't they fight the rot from within instead of accusing government all the time.

Eeeeh Lamp kwa odi kwanu egwu na bu?

Crazy nation not blaming the docs o buh the nations poor structural organisation and the worst is that Government are not doing anything about it and dnt even know. if you doubt me visit some govt houses.