Heathen: Sin is a construct of christianity, for christians and as such, should be of no concern to non- christians.

ps: i have never sinned.

Okay sir.

Joshthefirst:

Okay sir.

Please, don't refer to me that way, odds are you are older than i am. :p

Joshthefirst: he's not a hell obsessed God. You're a hell headed person, and He's a love and salvation obsessed God.
That's the reason you hear him calling people to repent everyday. Like now. He's extravagant in saving from sin and giving eternal life.

It's just that some people accept this generous gift. Others refuse and rebel, building shallow false 'reasons' and 'foolish thinking' as their basis for rebellion. Why die? God is not interested in people going to hell.

For the wages of sin is death, but the FREE-GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

"Free-Gift"?
What about the mandatory tithes and all the hours spent stroking his ego (prayers)?

If i were to construct a God, i wud furnish him with some way and qualities and characteristics which the present lacks. He would not stop to ask for any man's compliments, praises, flattery and he will be far above exacting them-- Mark Twain

david_hume:

"Free-Gift"?
What about the mandatory tithes and all the hours spent stroking his ego (prayers)?

If i were to construct a God, i wud furnish him with some way and qualities and characteristics which the present lacks. He would not stop to ask for any man's compliments, praises, flattery and he will be far above exacting them-- Mark Twain

Man left for himself could be rebellious. In your estimation, i just want you to imagine there is God, what would your relationship with Him be like?

I doubt the existence of God. And if eventually there is a heaven, I'll boldly tell him it wasn't my fault. He didn't leave enough evidence.

david_hume:

"Free-Gift"?
What about the mandatory tithes and all the hours spent stroking his ego (prayers)?

If i were to construct a God, i wud furnish him with some way and qualities and characteristics which the present lacks. He would not stop to ask for any man's compliments, praises, flattery and he will be far above exacting them-- Mark Twain

you now speak out of plain and willful ignorance sir.

Get to know God first, then you can see if he has a large ego and is evil or not. How can the same God who judges you for sin commit sin? That would make him unjust. God is not unjust. Smh.

Rogers210: I doubt the existence of God. And if eventually there is a heaven, I'll boldly tell him it wasn't my fault. He didn't leave enough evidence.

well, he'd boldly tell you you were given the chance to believe in him, but you refused. And you'll be condemned to hell because of your sins.

Sin must be punished. Man stands guilty. God has given the way of salvation: Jesus Christ. With him, we escape wrath and condemnation of hell because of our sins and we're given the gift of salvation because of God's mercy.

Joshthefirst: well, he'd boldly tell you you were given the chance to believe in him, but you refused. And you'll be condemned to hell because of your sins.

Sin must be punished. Man stands guilty. God has given the way of salvation: Jesus Christ. With him, we escape wrath and condemnation of hell because of our sins and we're given the gift of salvation because of God's mercy.

I have heard such sermons over and over again in the past but they all lack the substance required to convince a cute and critical mind like mine. We cannot all be gullible.

Rogers210: I have heard such sermons over and over again in the past but they all lack the substance required to convince a cute and critical mind like mine. We cannot all be gullible.

you think they lack substance because you're too proud. God opposes the proud. Its a wonder sometimes that one can't see the simplicity of salvation. You think you might be smart by classifying christianity as a religion and calling its members foolhardy and stupid and unintelligent, but before God, you're a man who thinks himself to be wise.
I advise you to be careful sir, drop the pride. The very fact that you're parading yourself to be critical and cute says something is wrong. Don't let a circumstance wake you up to reality when its too late.

Jesus never liked proud people. And God shall never accept them in his kingdom.

I rather be proud than be joshthefirst. Gaddem!

Mr Troll: I rather be proud than be joshthefirst. Gaddem!

okay sir. You can stop trolling me now.

Joshthefirst: okay sir. You can stop trolling me now.

er...feeling special?

Mr Troll: er...feeling special?

not really
I'll admit I smiled though.

Joshthefirst: you think they lack substance because you're too proud. God opposes the proud. Its a wonder sometimes that one can't see the simplicity of salvation. You think you might be smart by classifying christianity as a religion and calling its members foolhardy and stupid and unintelligent, but before God, you're a man who thinks himself to be wise.
I advise you to be careful sir, drop the pride. The very fact that you're parading yourself to be critical and cute says something is wrong. Don't let a circumstance wake you up to reality when its too late.

Jesus never liked proud people. And God shall never accept them in his kingdom.

God, Jesus, the kingdom, salvation, etc. are the concepts I have chosen not to believe in, therefore, using them as the nucleus of your discussion holds no water.

Rogers210: God, Jesus, the kingdom, salvation, etc. are the concepts I have chosen not to believe in, therefore, using them as the nucleus of your discussion holds no water.

okay sir.

Joshthefirst: you now speak out of plain and willful ignorance sir.

Get to know God first, then you can see if he has a large ego and is evil or not. How can the same God who judges you for sin commit sin? That would make him unjust. God is not unjust. Smh.

The concept of a God has outlived it's purpose. The age of science and logical reasoning is upon us. Empathy rather than fear of hell is becoming the new morality.

david_hume:

The concept of a God has outlived it's purpose. The age of science and logical reasoning is upon us. Empathy rather than fear of hell is becoming the new morality.

yes sir, just as the bible foretold. The world is trying to forsake God. The new morality is become lawlessness. The world wallows deeper in sin. By God's grace, revival will break forth one more time before the end and judgement. The world is in its final hours. We preach to man, to escape the wrath to come.

Very soon, the world will be caught up with the painful pangs of the reality of God's judgement as we're taken out of the way. My hope is that when people see the great catastrpohies to come, they'll look and understand that each of them are exactly prophesied in the bible. My hope is that some at least, will turn to God then. Good day sir. I also hope and prau that you will not doubt the reality of this message until it's too late.

Escape the wrath to come.