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Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by AlfaSeltzer(m): 6:30pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
greatdonmikel: . We have an ndu chuks 100% yoruba. We even have a dayo kanu 100% yoruba. Why u people like Igbo names like this I no know. 8 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Nobody: 6:34pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer:Ndi chuks? As it gotten to that level a yoruba man with ibo names and surename. Whao 1 Like |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by dayokanu(m): 6:48pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: We have Adejoro 100% Ibo Tosin 7 100% Ibo Tomakint 100% Ibo Segun Osogbo 100% Ibo Tunde Olaniyi 100% Ibo 19 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by fluteman: 7:00pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
@Poster kindly amend the title of this post to "Kwara State: Fulani, Yoruba and the National Conference" . I believe this will attract more people, hopefully the intellectuals, so we can have more meaningful debate on this very important issue |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by macof(m): 7:15pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Ilorin and other major parts of kwara has always been part of yorubaland However Afonja who was over ambitious rebelled against the High king(Alaafin Oyo). At the time the Yoruba dealt with slaves and we owned a lot of fulani slaves, and their camp was in ilorin. Afonja an Illorin born Yoruba wished to get independence from Oyo, he trusted his Fulani friend(Alimi), and using the army under Uthman danfodio He pushed Oyo southwards and released Ilorin from all Oyo influence. Alimi betrayed Afonja, and murdered him. Alimi now ruler of Ilorin and commander of the Sokoto army waged war against Oyo, Oyo suffered so much until Ibadan came to help. Ibadan and Oyo army were able to push back the fulanis but unable to reclaim Ilorin's rulership That's the history 2 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Nobody: 7:18pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
fluteman: @PosterDone |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by lertee(f): 7:28pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Lol,someone needs his drugs on this thread. When intellects argue and put something good down,the dull ones try to troll and make no sense. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by macof(m): 7:34pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
greatdonmikel: . Afonja isn't the 1st Aare Ona-Kankanfo Kokoro of Iwoye was the first And Afonja's grandfather was the founder of Ilorin Ile-Erin meaning home of Elephants was a hunting ground for Afonja's grandfather who was originally from Oyo. He was very rich on Elephant hide and tusks and established Ilorin 2 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by juman(m): 7:39pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
A lot of history on this thread. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by mandarin: 7:44pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Kwara state is not just about Ilorin.Taken that Ilorin has an Emir what about all other settlements in kwara, do they alos have Emir? The creation of Kwara and combining Yoruba in Kogi was a political fraud by government. The Emir that Alimi left was half Yoruba half Fulani and now that they marry Yoruba they are more Yoruba than Fulani and no issue with that. The history of ilorin is different. From other towns and if a referendum is held today kwara and Yoruba Kogi will be in a Yoruba mega state. 4 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by fluteman: 7:49pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Enegito: Thank God you know that some people like you need that.odeI have reported you to the Mods.....I hope you are banned 2 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 7:53pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
macof: Correct chap. 1 Like |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by cashkid18(m): 7:54pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
kwara state was conquered by usman dan fodio n d oduduwa indigenes wia forcefully converted to muslims..there is ntin oduduwas cn do again to reclaim it ,its either dt they hv to go to war wit d fulanis cuz d fulanis dont gv up witout a fight or n i knw dt d oduduwas ar cowards who ar scared of their slave masterz 10 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by donphilopus: 7:54pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Enegito: Thank God you know that some people like you need that.odeGuy do you know you've not been making sense?? |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 7:54pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
theSpark: Am not yoruba but let me chook mouth. Illorin people are just fulani by name, it is their town yes, they won it in war. It is only normal that they rule the town. They emir of Illorin is more yoruba than fulani, i dont see the need for a yoruba oba. It will just cause discord. Which war was this? Please provide proper details. 1 Like |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 7:56pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Alfa Seltzer: Ndu Chuks is from the North, most likely Hausa or Fulani. |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 7:57pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
cashkid18: kwara state was conquered by usman dan fodio n d oduduwa indigenes wia forcefully converted to muslims..there is ntin oduduwas cn do again to reclaim it ,its either dt they hv to go to war wit d fulanis cuz d fulanis dont gv up witout a fight or n i knw dt d oduduwas ar cowards who ar of scared their slave masterz Really, when did Uthman DanFodio conquer Ilorin? Please share your half-baked knowledge. 2 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by Katsumoto: 7:59pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Enegito: who told you idiot can a slaves win there masters?if you don't know the ans is BIG NO.YORUBA WILL ALWAYS BE SLAVES TO THE NORTH.SO GET THAT MONKEY With your poorly constructed structures and poor diction, one can barely understand your points. Please improve your use of the language so we can have a proper debate. 4 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by lertee(f): 8:02pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
The Ilorin Emirate is a traditional state based on the city of Ilorin in Kwara State, Nigeria. It is considered to be one of the Banza Bakwai, or copy-cats of the Hausa Kingdoms. At the start of the 19th century Ilorin was a border town in the northeast of the Oyo Empire, with a mainly Yoruba population but with many Hausa-Fulani immigrants or slaves. It was the headquarters of an Oyo General, Afonja, who rebelled against the empire and helped bring about its collapse with the assistance of the Fulani. The rebellion was powered by Hausa, Nupe and Bornu Moslem slaves. Afonja had been assisted by Salih Janta, also called Shehu Alimi, a leader of the local Fulani. In 1824 Afonja was assassinated and Alimi's son Abdusalami became Emir. Ilorin became an emirate of the Sokoto Caliphate. For some time Ilorin was a major center of the slave trade. In the past slaves had mainly been sent north across the Sahara, but now they were being sent south via the Yoruba lands to the coast to supply demand from the USA, the West Indies and Brazil. Slaves were taken from the Igbo lands to the east and from conquered Yoruba towns, as well as from areas further to the north, and were traded for cloth and other goods. Ilorin continued to expand southward until it was checked in the 1830s by the growing power of Ibadan, an Oyo successor state. The Ilorin cavalry were ineffective in the jungle to the south, and by the 1850s Ibadan had access to guns from European traders on the coast. 3 Likes |
Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by cashkid18(m): 8:06pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Katsumoto:usman dan fodio conquered kwara, a yoruba land wen: an emir was installed instead of an oba n wen d oduduwas wia forcefully converted to islam 4 Likes |
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