lanrexlan: Refute what? Never will I engage people like you again on this forum.Keep repeating the same thing,It makes no sense at all.

LibertyRep:

and christianity d device of d God? please spare me that.
U want to feign ignorance of how many early indigenous Roman Pagan beliefs that were fused into d christianity,right?
U see, I hate it when u pple demonize other pple's faith as if any is better.

truthman2012:

People may fuse Roman paganism into their own Christianity, they are wrong for doing so.

Jesus said it is not all that call Him Lord that are His.

One thing I know for sure: in all religions it is only in Christianity their Lord still relates with them till today because He is alive. Other religion founders are death and their bones are in the grave and nobody could hear from them anymore.

Jesus is Lord.

ayenny02: @OP, I believe one day u will hug d transformer about islam, don't worry very soon u will commit suicide when u see ur pastors convert to islam.

We, as a muslims we don't need to fear because Allah has said that, ....... this day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. 3:5

truthman2012:

You goofed here, your quote is wrong. It is not 3:5 but 5:3.

You have raised another questionable point. ....''THIS DAY I have perfected your religion for you''. Can't you see deception in that statement?

If allah actually perfected islam for muslim on the day he made that remark, why did he continue to give more instructions after that day? Did he forget something?

truthman2012:



Wait a minute: you are no more active as usual. Your rubber bullets have been exhausted? When you were firing everyday, I told one of your muslim brothers, evilvirus by name on NL that what you have is rubber bullets and would soon be finished. Am I not right now?

ayenny02: Oh! I made a mistake I will edit it. Alhamdulilah, you know the verse from d Quran by urself, have u ever seen that statement from any other religion book except in the Quran, can u bring such from ur book? Capital NO


I don't need to waste my time with u anymore, you people know the truth and I don't blame u people but I blamed the poverty level of the country.

You(christians) have been shouting of OGUN AYE OGUN AYE, but OGUN AYE still continue,

you(christians) have bn shouting of "bring all ur problem to christ" but problem still continue every blessed day in d country

You(christians) have bn shouting of OGUN OSO, OGUN AJE but OSO and AJE still increasing everyday

You(christians) have bn shouting "if u don't have HUBAND or WIFE christ will provide" but reverse is the case in d church and many more

So, u people know the truth but u refused to follow it because of worldly material. May God will let u know d truth as truth and falsehood as falshood

Dap07: and the OP has refused to answer my questions..

truthman2012:

Your statements here is full of ignorance, or did you make them because you are short of words?

Ogun laye, aye ogun. Ogun Oso, Ogun Aje. Are all these not the reality of life?

Tell me, what is the work of your alfas who prepare Arabian charms for people? Is it not for solution from the unseen forces? They try to use demonic power to free people from Ogun Oso, Ogun Aje. Is Aye not Aye Ogun now?

There is no true power from any other source than Jesus. This is the reason your prophet could not do any miracles. He could not cure ordinary fever, he told the person to take zamzam water from zamzam well dug by his grandpa, Mutallib, a devotee of the Devil.

You don't get healing if you have no faith in the healer. Jesus said ''be it unto you according to your faith''.

Jesus was going about healing all manners of sickness, yet not all the sick got their healing. Be it unto you according to your faith.

When I was still a Bank Officer, I went to eat one morning before work. Not quite one hour after eating a serious problem started. I felt my intestines were severely tied up. I could not swallow solid food again. I was in excruciating pains. I went to so many hospitals and the many doctors tried their best but no solution. Then I thought I would die. It was in a night vigil I reported the case to Jesus in prayer. After the night vigil at around 4 am I went to sleep in my car before going home. It appeared nothing had happened after the prayer but I didn't know when I slept off. By the time I woke up, no traces of the problem again. It was not even a gradual healing, it happened at once. What do you think had happened? Miracle.

If some people don't receive miracle, the fault is not Jesus' but themselves. Be it unto you according to your faith. Jesus is alive doing miracles.

ayenny02: Oh! I made a mistake I will edit it. Alhamdulilah, you know the verse from d Quran by urself, have u ever seen that statement from any other religion book except in the Quran, can u bring such from ur book? Capital NO


I don't need to waste my time with u anymore, you people know the truth and I don't blame u people but I blamed the poverty level of the country.

You(christians) have been shouting of OGUN AYE OGUN AYE, but OGUN AYE still continue,

you(christians) have bn shouting of "bring all ur problem to christ" but problem still continue every blessed day in d country

You(christians) have bn shouting of OGUN OSO, OGUN AJE but OSO and AJE still increasing everyday

You(christians) have bn shouting "if u don't have HUBAND or WIFE christ will provide" but reverse is the case in d church and many more

So, u people know the truth but u refused to follow it because of worldly material. May God will let u know d truth as truth and falsehood as falshood

tpia@:
more like woe unto you.

truthman2012:

Jesus said ''I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE, nobody can come unto God but by me'' (John 14:6)

Come unto Him to escape the wrath of God awaiting sinners.

ona2: the simple truth you just hit here my brother. Salvation can only come by accepting JESUS CHRIST as our PERSONAL LORD and SAVIOUR WITHOUT WHICH NO ONE can get to HEAVEN. very simple. even a chruch goer who has no personal relationship with Christ can never smell heaven, not to talk of the others.

truthman2012:

People may fuse Roman paganism into their own Christianity, they are wrong for doing so.

Jesus said it is not all that call Him Lord that are His.

One thing I know for sure: in all religions it is only in Christianity their Lord still relates with them till today because He is alive. Other religion founders are death and their bones are in the grave and nobody could hear from them anymore.

Jesus is Lord.

LibertyRep:

If u are aware that the idolatry of early Romans was fused into christianity which is still in practice til today, why then do you condemn other pple's faith for such things ?
As for other religion founders being dead, I expect u to know that Paul, the defacto founder of christianity is long dead too. Christ did not found christianity while on earth, he only became the object of worship after his death, the same way Ogun and Sango became deities to there followers after theirs deaths.
By d way, who told u the adherents of other faiths do not hear from their gods. Just like u'll claim to av heard from your lord or his spirit ( definitely not physical communication) other pple too av the right to claim they commune with their lord and u don't av any moral right to call it a lie.

U see, the issue is, worship your god and let other persons worship theirs.

truthman2012:


Firsly, Jesus is not only worshiped after his death, he was worshiped in his lifetime, even as a baby (Matthew 2:11). The first people who worshiped Jesus were not ordinary people, they were WISE men. It is only the WISE that worship Jesus till today.

Secondly, it was not Paul who founded the church, it was Jesus. Jesus said I will build MY CHURCH and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it (Mat. 16:18). The disciples were only used to build the church of Christ. Inside the church are the Christians.

Know this today that whatever God does the Devil does the counterfeit. This is the reason people worship Sango, Ogun, Osun etc.

It is not in line with the gospel to leave people with their false religion. The essence of the gospel is to direct them to the true God.

truthman2012:


Firsly, Jesus is not only worshiped after his death, he was worshiped in his lifetime, even as a baby (Matthew 2:11). The first people who worshiped Jesus were not ordinary people, they were WISE men. It is only the WISE that worship Jesus till today.

Secondly, it was not Paul who founded the church, it was Jesus. Jesus said I will build MY CHURCH and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it (Mat. 16:18). The disciples were only used to build the church of Christ. Inside the church are the Christians.

Know this today that whatever God does the Devil does the counterfeit. This is the reason people worship Sango, Ogun, Osun etc.

It is not in line with the gospel to leave people with their false religion. The essence of the gospel is to direct them to the true God.

truthman2012:


Firsly, Jesus is not only worshiped after his death, he was worshiped in his lifetime, even as a baby (Matthew 2:11). The first people who worshiped Jesus were not ordinary people, they were WISE men. It is only the WISE that worship Jesus till today.

Secondly, it was not Paul who founded the church, it was Jesus. Jesus said I will build MY CHURCH and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it (Mat. 16:18). The disciples were only used to build the church of Christ. Inside the church are the Christians.

Know this today that whatever God does the Devil does the counterfeit. This is the reason people worship Sango, Ogun, Osun etc.

It is not in line with the gospel to leave people with their false religion. The essence of the gospel is to direct them to the true God.

LibertyRep:

No sir, I beg to disagree with you. Jesus was REVERED and not WORSHIPPED by the three wise men or any other persons whille still living. Had they done that, he would av bn put to death for heresy by the Jews way back before his fated crucifixion( the same charges that were later cooked up to have him dead anyways)

As to who actually founded christianity which some see as Paulinity, u wil admit that Jesus had 11 (minus Judas) disciples and a pocket of followers before his death who were not even worshipping hm but GOD through him. They weren't even called christians until years after his death when the self acclaimed Apostle Paul took over.

My point is Jesus, like any other gods, was not worshipped but revered while living.

My grouse wth some of u religious folks is your penchant at dismissing other peoples' faith as evil while at the same time trying to shove your faith down their throats.

The bottom line is, whatever you accuse Islam of (idolatry et al) u'll find it in abundance in christianity or Paulinity as some would av it called.

truthman2012:

Your statements here is full of ignorance, or did you make them because you are short of words?

Ogun laye, aye ogun. Ogun Oso, Ogun Aje. Are all these not the reality of life?

Tell me, what is the work of your alfas who prepare Arabian charms for people? Is it not for solution from the unseen forces? They try to use demonic power to free people from Ogun Oso, Ogun Aje. Is Aye not Aye Ogun now?

There is no true power from any other source than Jesus. This is the reason your prophet could not do any miracles. He could not cure ordinary fever, he told the person to take zamzam water from zamzam well dug by his grandpa, Mutallib, a devotee of the Devil.

You don't get healing if you have no faith in the healer. Jesus said ''be it unto you according to your faith''.

Jesus was going about healing all manners of sickness, yet not all the sick got their healing. Be it unto you according to your faith.

When I was still a Bank Officer, I went to eat one morning before work. Not quite one hour after eating a serious problem started. I felt my intestines were severely tied up. I could not swallow solid food again. I was in excruciating pains. I went to so many hospitals and the many doctors tried their best but no solution. Then I thought I would die. It was in a night vigil I reported the case to Jesus in prayer. After the night vigil at around 4 am I went to sleep in my car before going home. It appeared nothing had happened after the prayer but I didn't know when I slept off. By the time I woke up, no traces of the problem again. It was not even a gradual healing, it happened at once. What do you think had happened? Miracle.

If some people don't receive miracle, the fault is not Jesus' but themselves. Be it unto you according to your faith. Jesus is alive doing miracles.

truthman2012:

What is your problem? Why are you bitter with the truth?

Point out what is untrue in the writeup. If you cannot then why are you bitter? None of the islamic apologists could point out any lie. All they have done including you is abuses. Do you people want the truth to continue hidden?

I sometime listen to muslims preach on radio and television. They don't have any other message than oppossing the Christians. That pleases you, abi? You haven't seen anything yet.

tpia@:



Good try, i noticed the most bitter people on nl like pretending its others who are bitter. Misery loves company.

Anyway, as per what you claim you heard on the radio, did whoever you listened to, specifically say they are from nairaland?

truthman2012:

You goofed here, your quote is wrong. It is not 3:5 but 5:3.

You have raised another questionable point. ....''THIS DAY I have perfected your religion for you''. Can't you see deception in that statement?

If allah actually perfected islam for muslim on the day he made that remark, why did he continue to give more instructions after that day? Did he forget something?

The falsehood of islam has been hidden for ages past, but thank God for the internet.

Those pastors or Christians who believe in islam as God's religion are ignorant of the falsehood of it hence this type of my crusade.

As the Lord lives many shall be delivered from the claws of satanic deception called islam.

Wait a minute: you are no more active as usual. Your rubber bullets have been exhausted? When you were firing everyday, I told one of your muslim brothers, evilvirus by name on NL that what you have is rubber bullets and would soon be finished. Am I not right now?