For further undertanding, read The tree of life
https://www.nairaland.com/1497541/tree-life#19176965

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I will still ask a question on spirit soul and body. but before then, kindly send me the ebook to my email
shibarakudesu@gmail.com

iskalamong: Send me the e-book.
Nice writeup. Really edifying.
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I will, but all should note that the book title is salvation from which this was culled from. The book that deal with man n his end, is titled The eight dispensation of man, I am still on it n would also send it to as many emails I get.

God blesses u all, stay blessed n remain rapturable

jambogini: I will still ask a question on spirit soul and body. but before then, kindly send me the ebook to my email
shibarakudesu@gmail.com

Kk no problem, but I also have a thread here man- a three dimensional being, u can look it it up for I guess it will answer ur question.
https://www.nairaland.com/1298909/man-three-dimesional-being#15847004

pls send me the eBook...
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tnx...

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njokusboy: Man was never completely unconscious, wud I say he was kind of physically blind.. But he was able to think along the devils line meaning he was reasonable.. What I find confusing is the fact that God put that tree in the garden for a being that was reasonable.. As that would mean he gave man the option of sinning against him.. Since man was not a complete empty vessel to be told don't do this and not ask? Why not... So why then did God give man an option and was angry when man took the option.. Did he make a mistake?? He did say he regretted ever making man.. Gen 6:6-7..This confuses me..

Because man must choose between Him and devil. Because the devil told God he can turn the man he created against him. Because it is a contest from the beginning. Because there is a legal battle going on between God and the Devil. It continues to this day.

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emmysenior:

Technically, the first lie ever? I just can't say...


Wetin that tree dey even do for there in the 1st place?

Why that tree no remain for a realm where only angels and Jah can only get to?

Does it mean God was testing the humans as well by putting that tree within their reach?

Was it some kind of betting between God and the devil that humans won't eat of the tree no matter what the devil does or what?

As the only Alpha and Omega and the only Omni potent, he knew humans will eat of the tree, yet he allowed it. Why?

Why didn't he cause confusion to stop the creation of Nigeria as he did in the time the tower of Babel?

Abeg, me I have tired joor.

One thing is right about all you said, God put the tree to give man a choice to choose between Go(o)d and (d)Evil. Man must choose his fate. He also had a plan B that the devil knew not of at that time. JESUS Christ, His Son. An opportunity to 're-choose' after the first mistake. God is good.

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Onliie:

One thing is right about all you said, God put the tree to give man a choice to choose between Go(o)d and (d)Evil. Man must choose his fate. He also had a plan B that the devil knew not of at that time. JESUS Christ, His Son. An opportunity to 're-choose' after the first mistake. God is good.

i guess u were in a hurry when u posted this. At d bolded, doesn't that statement question his omnipotence?
a plan B, lmfao, meaning he knew man will fall, right? Which begs d question, why did he make the tree accessible to them at first? Was God and Devil involved in sort of a game, with man being d ultimate prize?
I dont think God is good..

Dap07:
i guess u were in a hurry when u posted this. At d bolded, doesn't that statement question his omnipotence?
a plan B, lmfao, meaning he knew man will fall, right? Which begs d question, why did he make the tree accessible to them at first? Was God and Devil involved in sort of a game, with man being d ultimate prize?
I dont think God is good..

God is good no matter what.

But, this your question make a bit sense.

Dap07:
i guess u were in a hurry when u posted this. At d bolded, doesn't that statement question his omnipotence?
a plan B, lmfao, meaning he knew man will fall, right? Which begs d question, why did he make the tree accessible to them at first? Was God and Devil involved in sort of a game, with man being d ultimate prize?
I dont think God is good..

Your opinion of who He is doesn't change who He is..

@ OP thanks

Onliie:
Because man must choose between Him and devil. Because the devil told God he can turn the man he created against him. Because it is a contest from the beginning. Because there is a legal battle going on between God and the Devil. It continues to this day.

..and d devil was successful in that quest, no wonder God needed a plan b. Thought he is perfect.what a sore loser!!

Dap07:
i guess u were in a hurry when u posted this. At d bolded, doesn't that statement question his omnipotence?
a plan B, lmfao, meaning he knew man will fall, right? Which begs d question, why did he make the tree accessible to them at first? Was God and Devil involved in sort of a game, with man being d ultimate prize?
I dont think God is good..

Ever heard the Word "ETERNAL GLANCE" before?

sarutobie:
Your opinion of who He is doesn't change who He is..

yeah sure, He that made a mess and will go any lenght to clean it up and worsening it..

Dap07:
..and d devil was successful in that quest, no wonder God needed a plan b. Thought he is perfect.what a sore loser!!

God had a plan B because He loves you. Because he doesn't want you to perish with the devil in the end. He sacrifice His Son for a sin man committed.

philfearon:
Ever heard the Word "ETERNAL GLANCE" before?

tell me something, aside a poem..

benkings: the summary: d Lord told adam n eve to eat of every fruit in d qarden except dat which is in d middle of d qarden,d middle of d qarden here means d part dat is found in d middle of a womans body and u knw what dat means(pucccci) so d devil came to tempt eve 1st n told her to test d middle of her qarden and after she self service she realise d pleasure she had was maximum pleasure and so she called on adam to test of it also,so they had seks toqether n afta d act dey realise dey were naked
last bullet: d forbidden fruit to my own understand is seks hope my post wont be hidden 8-)

come oh. Who told u it was Sex. They where instructed to procreat " ...and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth...." Gen 1:26-28. How can man reproduce except through sex. Well if there is, am interested to know.

Dap07:
tell me something, aside a poem..

Your Heart is made of Stone by the look of your comment above,no need going further again!

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Dap07:
i guess u were in a hurry when u posted this. At d bolded, doesn't that statement question his omnipotence?
a plan B, lmfao, meaning he knew man will fall, right? Which begs d question, why did he make the tree accessible to them at first? Was God and Devil involved in sort of a game, with man being d ultimate prize?
I dont think God is good..

Have you read the book of Job? The devil claim man's allegiance in presence of the council in heaven. God had to prove him wrong.There are other beings watching the scenario. He had to test man. Even if He knew that man was going to fail, he still had to test him. He does not want to cheat by using His superior abilities against the devil. He had to test the devil's theory. He wanted a fair battle. That was what happened with Adam. Adam failed the test. But as long as there is at least one man (Noah, Job) that follows God, the devil cannot claim total victory. Even when Adam fell, there was still good in him, manifested through few of his seeds.

Dap07:
..and d devil was successful in that quest, no wonder God needed a plan b. Thought he is perfect.what a sore loser!!

Man was the loser. God is not a loser, man had a mind of his own. Don't forget that. He could reason. If a beautiful girl decide to go for a jerk that beats him instead of a real, good man, who lost? Is it the real, good man or the girl.

Pastor Ola, why did God put that tree(Knowledge of Good and Evil) in the first place? First, He cannot deceive. Secondly, his work is always perfect. Thirdly, none can manipulate him(and of course, he is all-knowing). And finally, his will alone takes place(as was stated in the scripture). Now, was putting that tree and letting Adam and Eve succumb to devil's snare His(God's) prior plan or were thing to complicated for him at that point in time? Your answer should be laconic please, for clarity of comprehension.

philfearon:
Your Heart is made of Stone by the look of your comment above,no need going further again!

if u boil a stone with the right ingredients, it might just melt...who knows??

Onliie: Man was the loser. God is not a loser, man had a mind of his own. Don't forget that. He could reason. If a beautiful girl decide to go for a jerk that beats him instead of a real, good man, who lost? Is it the real, good man or the girl.

Onliie, are you saying that God was not sure of his creation? Because i could recall reading that '...all God's creation was perfect...' or is that(the quoted) false?

gods I: Pastor Ola, why did God put that tree(Knowledge of Good and Evil) in the first place? First, He cannot deceive. Secondly, his work is always perfect. Thirdly, none can manipulate him(and of course, he is all-knowing). And finally, his will alone takes place(as was stated in the scripture). Now, was putting that tree and letting Adam and Eve succumb to devil's snare His(God's) prior plan or were thing to complicated for him at that point in time? Your answer should be laconic please, for clarity of comprehension.

Deuteronomy 30 vs 19:  I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live

gods I: Onliie, are you saying that God was not sure of his creation? Because i could recall reading that '...all God's creation was perfect...' or is that(the quoted) false?

What is your definition of perfect? Last time I checked perfect, it does not mean incorruptible. God created man to have free-will. He was created perfect not incorruptible. If he was created incorruptible then he would have no genuine free-will. He was corrupted after he ate the fruit. Whatever he chooses has consequences. He chose what he wanted. But God wanted every single man to determine his fate, that's why Jesus came. Accept Jesus and be free from Adam's curse. God thought Adam should not be the sole determinant of every man's fate, so He sacrificed His son to give each man a second chance. It is a great opportunity.

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Flawed, uninspiring body.

*why do christians speculate views with so much confidence of their views as facts*

Wrong! God cursed the ground for adams sake.

aManFromMars:

Nice twisting of scripture there. According to Christian myth, your God cursed Adam and the whole world for Eve's mistake. What a useless being...