The sect now known as the Jehovah’s Witnesses was started by Charles Taze Russell, who was born in 1852 and worked in Pittsburgh as a haberdasher. He was raised a Congregationalist, but at the age of seventeen he tried to convert an atheist to Christianity and ended up being converted instead—not to outright atheism, but to agnosticism. Some years later he went to an Adventist meeting, was told that Jesus would be back at any time, and got interested in the Bible.

The leading light of Adventism had been William Miller, a flamboyant preacher who predicted that the world would end in 1843. When it didn’t, he "discovered" an arithmetical error in his eschatological calculations and said it would end in 1844. When his prediction again failed, many people became frustrated and withdrew from the Adventist movement, but a remnant, led by Ellen G. White, went on to form the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

True or false?

Sixone please post on topic instead of turning the stone.

@Italo

which of those ^ are biblical doctrines that you had invited Jman05 to come for ?

Which of those are bible based question that will help one to learn more about the bible ?

@sixone

open a thread to post those imformation about beads and stuff let me read them, it was educating and i had learnt alot about it.

That is if this Mods that seems to hate anything JW has not ban you already.

@Humblebygrace

you love gossiping stuff devoid of knowledge alot it seems, you hardly participate in biblically base educating stuff, is that how you obey Jesus christ to go make disciples and "teaching them" to observe christ instructions ?

@Six One

Am weiting for the thread. If you dont reply to this, i will know that Humble by grace has Ban you instead of advising you after hidding your posts.

@ loveroftruth,

It's step by step. We'll get there.

But is the OP true or false?

loveroftruth:
@Six One

Am weiting for the thread. If you dont reply to this, i will know that Humble by grace has Ban you instead of advising you after hidding your posts.

loveoftruth i shock. lol see catholics f***** themselves. they removed my posts.

italo: The sect now known as the Jehovah’s Witnesses was started by Charles Taze Russell, who was born in 1852 and worked in Pittsburgh as a haberdasher. He was raised a Congregationalist, but at the age of seventeen he tried to convert an atheist to Christianity and ended up being converted instead—not to outright atheism, but to agnosticism. Some years later he went to an Adventist meeting, was told that Jesus would be back at any time, and got interested in the Bible.

The leading light of Adventism had been William Miller, a flamboyant preacher who predicted that the world would end in 1843. When it didn’t, he "discovered" an arithmetical error in his eschatological calculations and said it would end in 1844. When his prediction again failed, many people became frustrated and withdrew from the Adventist movement, but a remnant, led by Ellen G. White, went on to form the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

True or false?

You ignored my statement demanding you post what we currently believe. We do not suscribe to infallibility.

Russell was never an atheist, rather his faith shook cos of bad teaching he had from the churches. He was searching for God as it were. ie searching to see whether any religion could teach what made sense cos he knew that the God he served cant behave the way the religionist then painted Him.

You shouldnt post anything that Miller believe to me, we are not Adventists. Our teachings were as a result of a separate search that began in 1870's.

You know you ve not said anything, right?

We are getting somewhere.

following*

Russell lied to his followers Jesus would return in 1914.

When 1914 had come and gone, with no Jesus in sight, Russell modified his teachings and claimed Jesus had, in fact, returned to Earth, but that his return was invisible.

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Russell died in 1916 and was succeeded by Joseph R. Rutherford.

It was Rutherford who coined the slogan, "Millions now living will never die." By it he meant that some people alive in 1914 would still be alive when Armageddon came and the world was restored to a paradise state.

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Rutherford said that in 1925 Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets would return to Earth, and for them he prepared a mansion named Beth Sarim in San Diego, California. He moved into this mansion (where he died in 1942) and bought an automobile with which to drive the resurrected patriarchs around. The Watch Tower Society quietly sold Beth Sarim years later to cover up an embarrassing moment in their history, namely another failed prophecy.

True or false.

Rutherford was succeeded by Nathan Homer Knorr, who was born in 1905 and died in 1977.

Since the Bible, as preserved through the centuries, did not support the peculiar doctrines of the Witnesses, Knorr chose an anonymous committee to produce the New World Translation, which is used by no sect other than the Witnesses. By means of former Witnesses, the names of the five members of the translation committee eventually came to light. Four of the five members completely lack credentials to qualify them as Bible translators, and the fifth member studied non-biblical Greek for only about two years.

The New World Translation was produced because it buttresses Witnesses’ beliefs through obscure or inaccurate renderings. For example, to prove that Jesus was only a creature, not God, theNew World Translation’s rendering of John 1:1 concludes this way: "and the Word was a god" [italics added]. Every other translation, Catholic and Protestant—not to mention the Greek original—has "and the Word was God."

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Knorr was succeeded as head of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, by Frederick Franz. He had been the Witnesses’ leading theologian, and his services were often called upon. For some years the sect’s magazines had been predicting that Armageddon would occur in 1975. When it didn’t, Franz had to find an explanation.

Witnesses believe that Adam was created in 4026 B.C. and that human beings have been allotted 6000 years of existence until Armageddon and the beginning of the millennium. This figure is based on a "creative week" in which each of six days is equal to 1,000 years, with the Sabbath or seventh day being the beginning of the millennium. Simple arithmetic gives 1975 as the year Armageddon would arrive. Franz explained that Armageddon would actually come 6000 years after Eve’s creation. But when 1975 came and went, the Witnesses had to "adjust" their chronology to cover up a failed prediction. They accomplished this by maintaining that no one knew exactly how long after Adam’s creation Eve came on the scene. Franz said that it was months—even years. Hence he was able to "stretch" the 1975 date to some indeterminate time in the future. In any case, Franz said that Witnesses would just have to wait, knowing the end is right around the corner.

When the final battle does occur—remember, it will be during the lifetime of "millions" of people alive in 1914, which means it can’t be too far off—Jehovah will defeat Satan and the elect will go to heaven to rule with Christ. But, following a literal interpretation of the number mentioned in Revelation, chapters 7 and 14, only 144,000 are among the elect. They will go to heaven as spirit persons (without resurrected bodies). The remaining faithful (Jehovah’s Witnesses), who are known as Jonadabs, will live forever on a renewed, paradise Earth in resurrected bodies. The unsaved will cease to exist at all, having been annihilated by Jehovah.

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In 1995 the Watchtower quietly changed one of its major prophetic doctrines. Until this point, they had maintained that the generation alive in 1914 would not pass from the scene until Armageddon occurred. Now that this generation has almost entirely died out—and Armageddon has not occurred and does not seem like it will happen immediately—they had to change their doctrine. Now, the Watchtower says that Armageddon will simply occur "soon," and it is no longer tied to a particular, literal generation of people.

True or false?

Jehovah’s Witnesses may be "disfellowshipped" for a variety of reasons, such as attending a Catholic or Protestant church or receiving a blood transfusion. A disfellow-shipped Witness may attend Kingdom Hall, but he is not allowed to speak to anyone, and no one may speak to him. The others are to act as though he no longer exists. This applies even to his family, who may only communicate with him as much as absolutely necessary.

True or false?

italo: Russell lied to his followers Jesus would return in 1914.

When 1914 had come and gone, with no Jesus in sight, Russell modified his teachings and claimed Jesus had, in fact, returned to Earth, but that his return was invisible.

True or false?

Jesus christ him self don't even knw wen the world wil come to an end

italo: Rutherford was succeeded by Nathan Homer Knorr, who was born in 1905 and died in 1977.

Since the Bible, as preserved through the centuries, did not support the peculiar doctrines of the Witnesses, Knorr chose an anonymous committee to produce the New World Translation, which is used by no sect other than the Witnesses. By means of former Witnesses, the names of the five members of the translation committee eventually came to light. Four of the five members completely lack credentials to qualify them as Bible translators, and the fifth member studied non-biblical Greek for only about two years.

The New World Translation was produced because it buttresses Witnesses’ beliefs through obscure or inaccurate renderings. For example, to prove that Jesus was only a creature, not God, theNew World Translation’s rendering of John 1:1 concludes this way: "and the Word was a god" [italics added]. Every other translation, Catholic and Protestant—not to mention the Greek original—has "and the Word was God."

True or false.

Are you tryin to say that the Jw have their own separate bible??

italo: Russell died in 1916 and was succeeded by Joseph R. Rutherford.

It was Rutherford who coined the slogan, "Millions now living will never die." By it he meant that some people alive in 1914 would still be alive when Armageddon came and the world was restored to a paradise state.

True or false?

what is the meaning of Armageddon





No man is an ireland of knowledge, we ar all here to learn




wait o..
"millions now living will never die".. is Rutherford stil alive??

italo: Rutherford said that in 1925 Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets would return to Earth, and for them he prepared a mansion named Beth Sarim in San Diego, California. He moved into this mansion (where he died in 1942) and bought an automobile with which to drive the resurrected patriarchs around. The Watch Tower Society quietly sold Beth Sarim years later to cover up an embarrassing moment in their history, namely another failed prophecy.

True or false.

woky: Jesus christ him self don't even knw wen the world wil come to an end

Jesus doesn't know but Jehovah's witnesses always claim to know.

Then when the date comes and Jesus disgraces them by not showing up, they cook up another excuse.

The thing is: if a prophecy is false, isnt it from the devil?

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I don't like such topics moved to front page to avoid too much posts without credence but if after a while JMAN05 cannot answer these, it wouldn't be a bad idea @MODS

italo: Jehovah’s Witnesses may be "disfellowshipped" for a variety of reasons, such as attending a Protestant church

I thought that they are all descendant of Martin Luther, why the segregation ??

italo: We are getting somewhere.

Actually, you have not gone no where, you must be afraid of something that is why you are not posting bible doctrine so that you and your catholics will not be smashed here.

For your ignorance of the bible, Jesus word was that the "Day and Hour" no body knows, so, for a start, present a PDF extract where JW have 'ever' pronounced a 'day' let alone 'hour' when the end will come, if you cannot, then keep dancing in the filth you are dancing right now with lies and falsehood.

If you have been properly taught the bible, you would have known that Jesus had said days and hour no one knows.

And the fact remains that JW have never, i repeat, never says the day is known by any man let alone them. So, i dare you to verify your lies against Jesus words here.

And again, JW dont claim to be prophets that God speaks to directly like the RCC says, but rather, they are bible student, that search the bible to ensure no stone is left unturn.

The imformation that the jw present are right there in the bible, the calculations, they find imformations, they present it and have full confidence in the word of God. Those calculations all point to one thing, that the 'age' we are living in are the last 'days' befor the end.

That many prophesy points to this same Era tells them the end is near at hand, and they more than ever become more active in warning people.

The jw are not like catholics that dont have faith in the word of God as given in the scriptures, that is why RCC find it easy to ascribe the origine of life to evolution , but the jw have ever stock with the bible details come what may. Can you see the difference ?

The jw preach it come rain or sun, they are never ashamed of it, unlike RCC that have resorted to human philosophy instead of the bible. Can you see the differenc ?

The jw, as bible student makes research and publish what they find, if as humans, they find out that they have overlooked some issues, they make correction to ensure they never go out of the word of God, not like the "Infellible" pope head of the catholic church whose blunders has been responsible for the greatest reproach on christianity in all history.

Again, i dare and challange you to post a scaned pdf document where the JW went against the word of God that the day and hour no one knows.

And take note, whatever the jw have presented are right there in the bible, if you dont belief that we are living in the last days, blame the bible for it because the 1914 date is directly verifiable from the bible and did not come from human head. And other calculations.

You are mucking on the effort to study deep into the bible that you people dont do, its a pitty.

So, i await your proof that The JW have ever gone against Jesus word by publishing "day" let alone "hour" against Jesus word that he said no one knows.

Thanks.