Mylove55: Why are we clamouring for true federalism,if we are not opereting like amarican

Alfa Seltzer:

you are the tard.

is it called federal republic of america or united states?

Do you have united states of nigeria or federating states?

free education illiterate.

God punish you for that

Your father's land shall be called no man's land

Very soon, we shall know who owns what

Eeediot

Delafruita: by virtue of the 1999 constitution,lagos and indeed every other state in nigeria belongs to anybody and everybody.that does not take a way the fact that there are aborigines in lagos as there are in every other place in nigeria

agbameta: @ Crowe.

Thanks for the wonderful post, resource and compound clarification.

Like I sated times uncountable, Nigeria and America shares the same brand of government from top to bottom even via derinitions and labels.

Sometimes I do understand these villagers, poorly educated illiterates and half backed Nigerians and the need to educate them accordingly, but they get carried away with their predisposed tribal idiocies and village understanding international issues.

Imagine saying the US is not a federation because they answer to united states when in fact, The US is a discription while the constitutional qualification and enshrined system of government is Federation.

The other Dullard said according to the same constition he posted, Nigeria is a federation starting from 1963 and again reasserted in the 1999 constitution, still, the Dullard argued that Nigeria is a republic as of there is the word republic discounts the fact that Nigeria is a federation.

Seriously, whose fault is this? Lack of social studies and general education or just personal retardation and foolishness?

Ignorance is of course a disease, but extra dangerous when componded with idiocy and tribalism....

CROWÉ: Please explain to us what the difference is in the two, we want to know.

The United States of America (USA), commonly referred to as the United States (US), America, or simply the States, is a federal republic[10][11] consisting of 50 states, 16 territories, a federal district, and various overseas extraterritorial jurisdictions.

Nigeria Listeni/naɪˈdʒɪəriə/, officially the Federal Republic of Nigeria, is a federal constitutional republic comprising 36 states and its Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.



Let me state it clearly for the mugus here, America and Nigeria operate formally the EXACT same type of government. America can call itself angelic bottox of heaven, it does not matter, next time go and read a book or two before you bring your illiterate arguments here.

eaglechild:
That feeling you get when you are reading crap and the writer knows he wrote crap.

eaglechild:
I heard we also share the same constitution.

Even you know how incredibly fooooolish your write up is.

agbameta:

Village illiterate, what's constitution in your country and the US got to do with the fact that your country is a federation as prescribed and recognized by the Nigerian constitution just as equally stated by the American constitution?

Instead of your idiotic and redundant constitution ignorance, why not just go ahead and tell is your country is not a federation?

What a Dullard.

Billyonaire: Admit that you are wrong, when you are wrong and learn from those who have time to correct you. Did you notice that those that corrected you, did so in utmost humility without cursing ? It means that intelligence comes without ego, but ignorance comes with curses and egotistic tendencies.

eaglechild:
From your write ups, it will be self degrading to engage you in an argument, judging by your level of intelligence.

eaglechild:
From your write ups, it will be self degrading to engage you in an argument, judging by your level of intelligence.

eaglechild:
I heard we also share the same constitution.

Even you know how incredibly fooooolish your write up is.

9jacrip:

After a thread where you messed up by displaying how deep your ignorance is for not knowing the meaning of sovereignty and how it is applied, I expected you not to ever engage in or be found around any debate on NL especially in the politics section.

If possible delete your handle and start over.

kingoflag:

Hhahaha the day PovertyBillionaire exposed himself as not knowing what Sovereignty meant was the day I vowed never to engage the illiterate clown again.

9jacrip:

LOL!
The way he latched on to his ignorance was epic! He defended it vehemently, it was so funny but at the same time annoying.

This is the same way some people on this thread have chosen to go the way of Billyonaire, despite the fact that it has been pointed out that Nigeria built its constitution using that of USA. I cannot wait for them to bow in disgrace so I can bookmark this page for reference in the future

Delafruita: please dont lose sight of the purpose of the thread which the position states occupy in the nigerian system vis a vis the american system.do states in nigeria share the same status as states in america?is it appropiate to tag a state in nigeria as "state of osun" bearing in mind the fact that the state belongs to the federal republic of nigeria

madam_oringo:

LMAO...you dey mind them?? ibos WILL BE THE BIGGEST LOSER IN THE WORLD when Nigeria breaks because they will be made to live in their biafra! That is why they are scared or worried about what Yorubas call their lands! In the whole Nigeria and the world, the only people who think Lagos is iboland is ibos, so don't sweat it! I know their LOSS this time will be 100000000000 times that of 1967!

Delafruita: please dont lose sight of the purpose of the thread which the position states occupy in the nigerian system vis a vis the american system.do states in nigeria share the same status as states in america?is it appropiate to tag a state in nigeria as "state of osun" bearing in mind the fact that the state belongs to the federal republic of nigeria

CROWÉ: Okay let me clarify, a country can be both a federation and a republic at the same.

A country is a federation if it is a union of multiple self governing states, that is why America calls itself the united states, Germany is also the united states because they were separate kingdoms before they joined together in 1870 and became the German empire, India is also the united states. Meanwhile a country is a republic if its government is a public one rather the private affairs of a chosen nobility for example. So you can see that republicanism and federalism are two different concepts, you can use both of them together. I will give you guys a few examples of federal republics:

Argentine Federation
Republic of Austria
Federative Republic of Brazil
Federal Republic of Germany
Republic of India
United Mexican States
Federal Republic of Nigeria (we call ourselves federal but we practice unitarism because our leaders are idiots)
Russian Federation
United States of America

So don't confuse it, a country doesn't have to call itself a federal republic before you know it is one. America and Mexico were the most naturally created federal republics, they were states that combined to form those countries while most of the others saw their system of government and decided they liked it.

Hopefully this clarifies things.

Sam xiu lee: are you aware that UK and UAE are federation?one is a constitutional and the other absolute monarchy,Nigeria was a federation but not a republic until 1963,Nigeria then was like Canada,Australia and co,so please don't confuse federation with republic.

Sam xiu lee: are you aware that UK and UAE are federation?one is a constitutional and the other absolute monarchy,Nigeria was a federation but not a republic until 1963,Nigeria then was like Canada,Australia and co,so please don't confuse federation with republic.

CROWÉ:



Firstly, you have not made a pint here, I cannot see what you are trying to say and secondly, the UK is not a federation, It is a unitary state, I would like for you to find one, any documents where it is written that the UK is a federation.

Please, before any stupid idiot comes and argues with me about what the fvck a government is or what not do some god damned research, arseholes. Lemme help you, read these pages for Christ's sake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation

Ikengawo: It doesn't matter that the US and Nigeria are both federations.


Russia is also a Federal Republic, and it has provinces



These naming conventions are based on history as much as government structure.
Again. Nigeria started with Regions and ended with States. The regions weren't called Region of the East Region of the North and Region of the West, it was Western Region, Northern Region, Eastern Region.


The Regions broke into smaller sub regions when the Regions idea was abolished, but the naming convention created by our history remained.
East-Central State, Bendel State. The word region was simply replaced by state and the naming convention of structuring it as if it was a region remained.




The truth is the Nigeria's states aren't states, they're still regions. Kano is the Region region, Lagos is the Lagos region, Anambra is the Anambra region. In America each state functions as it's own country. The smallest least imporant states still have their own budget for science and research, policing, every little possible thing. They even have armies (national guard). This isn't what happens in Nigeria and it doesn't happen that was for a reason.

Nigerian history simply changed the word region into state, but politically they still function as the regions did. There's no such a thing as State of Osun because it implies that Osun is it's own country that joined a union of 36 other countries, it's not.

CROWÉ:

Federation means autonomous units, it has nothing to do with armies. Different federations have different levels of autonomy. In America they may have 54 different national guards for all their separate states but they have one unified education system while in Australia they don't even have national guards but they do have separate education systems for each state. Federalism is a fundamental idea, not a specific set of laws, so the exact manifestation can differ from country to country but as long as the base concept is still there a country is still considered a federal state.

Let me tell you the major difference between federal states and unitary state, in a unitary state, the administrative divisions, you can call them region, prefecture it does not matter, they are given their power by the centre and they answer to the centre but in a federal state their power is guaranteed by the constitution and the center is not their boss, he cannot control them or order them around, that is the difference. I stated it previously that even though Nigeria is not technically a federal state because our state governments are the bichettes of the federal government, we just call ourselves federal.

This conversation is going off topic. Given that Nigeria is officialy a federal state, by definition our states should be allowed to refer to themselves as the state of xx. The only issue here is that we claim to practice federalism but we have no idea wtf federalism is so when someone tries to do something that is in line with federalism, the stupid federal government comes out and opens its dirty mouth stopping them. The federal government is the problem in Nigeria, it is a powerful monster that is afraid that her children will run away from her so it shelters them, even to the point of denying them a chance at success.

P.S. Don't use Russia as a benchmark/example for anything, nobody needs to be looking toward that prison for anything.