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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:03am On Nov 06, 2013
Afam4eva:
Going by this premise then who's more qualified than Fashola in APC? It seems APC are more interested in winning than actually presenting the ideal candidate. For now, APC is trying to win an election and they would present someone they feel will help them win as opposed to someone who has a track record of performance. The best they can do is to reach a compromise between the two. I really don't care about APC neither do i care about any party cos i'm confused right now and i'm finding it difficult making a choice. I could care less if APC presents an Igbo candidate. I'm only saying what i nthink will be the deal breaker for them.
Whatever. Depending on what happens in Anambra, "placating" the Igbos as ure suggesting is only tantamount to APC handing the Region a poisoned dagger, turning it's back while asleep, and trusting to wake up alive the next day. You and I know what will happen.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by CyberG: 5:07am On Nov 06, 2013
revolt: so its buhari or Tinubu dem thtll deliver for nwafors abi? GEj ISN'T doin bad @ all only an ediot will fink ny govt will come n perform magic for thEm! GEJ has privatised the power sector @least tht shows hw progressive he is! The fulanis need the sectors to be controlled by. Govt so they can manipulate federal xter and quota system, they can't compete in a capitalist enviromnt wth us! So jes like yaradua stalled the power privatisation, redecimalisation and etc so will buhari do same! The only way to fight corruption isn't by voting a vicious buhari in power cos buhari won't go from door to door wif audit books and whip, hell still hve to utilise the efcc n civil servants whom we all knw r corruption personified! Thts like fytn a corrupt system wif the same corrupt system! The only solution is capitalism n privatisation cos a biz man wants to mke profit n so hell focus more on filling the square holes wif square pegs! This moribund civil service must be riDden off all sectors. Wonder y yorobz hate capitalism n want to maintain the statusquo of quota system etc GEJ isn't da perfect leader but amongst the crop of leaders he's most suitable for naijas progress

I know you are Ibo and what has bringing tribalism into this debate by mentioning Yorubas? You have no evidence that any part of Nigeria hates capitalism - Dangote is a northerner and he is far ahead of all business men in your neck of the woods, so can be be said to be a better capitalist than all your people? You gave the example of the privatization of power and again blame the Yorubas but why?? Again you seem not to know or ignore the fact that there were more Yorubas who participated and bought more power companies than the people in your mind are the ones who are the poster boys for capitalism! Stop all these emotional response to issues and think about the facts! That you don't know certain simple facts or ignore them does not mean other people are not aware!

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:08am On Nov 06, 2013
Dive-Bomber:


I agree with you that in all fairness power should return to the north most likely in 2019. However, GEJ might hand over to someone from the MB, after all they are also northerners and Nigerians too; it must not be the hausa/fulani. And a south easterner would be set as vice president. This will ensure that somehow, power comes to the SE eventually.

Don't you think the middle-belters deserve a short at the presidency too or must it be hausa/fulani or is the MB no longer part of the north? Besides, we can hardly trust this country with the hausa/fulani for a long time especially because of all that has been happening recently in the north.
"GEJ should hand over..."?! are u people ok at all? Is GEJ king or a dictator? Don't you know ure supposed to be in a democracy? Do u even know what that means?

He should hand over to a Middle Belter?! So, what if there's someone more qualified from another Region?

Lord knows I feel real sorry for u guys.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:10am On Nov 06, 2013
CyberG:

I know you are Ibo and what has bringing tribalism into this debate by mentioning Yorubas? You have no evidence that any part of Nigeria hates capitalism - Dangote is a northerner and he is far ahead of all business men in your neck of the woods, so can be be said to be a better capitalist than all your people? You gave the example of the privatization if power and again blame the Yorubas but why?? Again you seem not to know or ignore the fact that there were more Yorubas who participated and bought more power companies than the people in your mind are the ones who are the poster boy for capitalism! Stop all these emotional response to issues and think about the facts! That you don't know certain simple facts or ignore them does not mean other people are not aware!
You try o for replying a man that's obviously sounding idiotic just to decieve himself thinking he's deceiving others. These people are nuts, bruh. I swear.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:16am On Nov 06, 2013
Katsumoto:

Hahahahaha. Maybe to current ignorant Americans who don't even know who Jimmy Carter is let alone LBJ.

You want to compare winning a cold war to pulling the US out of depression and winning WW2? Please tell me something else.
Lol most of America dislikes Jimmy Carter and "recall" him as weak....I believe history will vindicate him. But u ask the last 3 generations of Americans who was the best and I bet Reagan is the first name that'll pop up.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:19am On Nov 06, 2013
PointB: Buhari is too old, inarticulate, incoherent, lacking in ideas and guile to manage Nigeria. But it will be good to see him in the polls again. His presence in the poll is a sign of victory for anyone pitted against him.

Seems to me that the opposition is seriously lacking the idea department as every permutation they make throw up the old and incompetent Mumumadu Buhari!
Why won't anyone contesting against him win when one man will vote 5000 times in some Regions like we saw on youtube.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:20am On Nov 06, 2013
PointB:


Light and darkness will never be one. Buhari is best served running with Mohammed, and his retinue of virgins.
Yes, good embodiment of a Nigerian Christian, ur comment is not surprising at all.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:22am On Nov 06, 2013
PointB: By the way, if APC/Tinubu want to surrender their party to a Northerner by all means (whether deserving or not) why not Ribadu?

Has Ribadu not proven himself? Even after he was sold for six-pence by Tinubu the last time out, no one heard him complained, he simply moved on. Why not Ribadu, why must it be the old and dysfunctional Buhari, who probably doesn't even know how to use the internet let alone post comment on social media? Buhari is of the past, it is a great disservice to teeming Nigerian youth brimming with energy and idea and waiting in the wings for their time.

Buhari and his gang of old men, have had their chance, Nigeria has to move on, and away from them. They are not indispensable, and are certainly not need at this time.
Obviously, you're scared of Buhari that's why you're throwing in Ribadu's name because u know in ur black,darkened,hateful and evil heart that he doesn't have a chance in hell to win against Gej.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by ignis: 6:42am On Nov 06, 2013
Katsumoto: Why do some folks continue to mention Rochas? He has neither the leverage or record. Most in his base will vote GEJ so why carry him? What is he bringing?
You think So?
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by agabaI23(m): 11:41am On Nov 06, 2013
eye4eye:


Buhari is not a sentimental person as you claimed. Buhari was prevented from campaigning in many parts of the south. If you paid attention to the news, you would have seen that he was prevented from flying to some areas. Buhari drove to few places he went to campaign without police escort. Police escort is never allowed to travel with Buhari on campaign trail. Police are only allowed to be at his home alone. His campaign vehicles were just two Toyota Landcruisers. Buhari did not have enough money to travel or campaign nationwide because he had little money; unlike the PDP that is funded by corrupt politicians and Nigeria's coffer. Is there a reason why every former military generals are in PDP but Buhari has refused to join the same PDP? The reason is because Buhari is not there to steal from the country's coffer.
I listened to the news bro and I didnt hear that anyone stopped him from going anywhere. Enugu airport was closed for renovation within that period. I had to fly to Owerri myself from Lagos even though Enugu was closer to my destination. What has police escort got to do with this? Yea he did not have enough money but he had enough to go round all the northern states some more than once. If you were awake during the election and you are sincere as you claim, you would have listened to neutral commentators on Channels who faulted his preoccupation with the north as a mistake. He believed he would win without votes from the South east in particular and in a particular statement, he alluded to that. In 1984, he formed a muslim-muslim ticket, in 2011, he formed a muslim semi-muslim ticket. A leopard cannot change its spots.
he refused to join the PDP but he is rejoicing that he is winning over PDP governors who make up the PDP? His APC was formed by Agrieved members of the PDP. They are the ones who funded his campaign with the same money the stole as PDP members. Now he is romacing with same PDP governors who have stolen their people dry. Amaechi bought a private jet for 7bn, APC adherents criticized because he was a PDP governor but now, he is an upright man because of his alliance with APC-joke?
Buhari does not want to join PDP and he is in an alliance with Tinubu. I am sure you know who that is? Spare me the joke bro. bring another argument.
Finally on this note look at the statement acredited to him below. He is not a sectional extremist. What is he?
“When the Niger Delta militants started their activities in the South-South, they were invited by the late President Umaru Yar’Adua. An aircraft was sent to them and their leaders met with the late President in Aso Rock and discussed issues. They were given money and a training scheme was introduced for their members. But when the Boko Haram emerged in the north members of the sect were killed”. - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/buharis-rare-romance-with-hypocrisy/#sthash.fEai5u9r.dpuf

On corruption: you fight corruption by putting culprits in prison. You don't fight corruption by creating jobs. Corruption itself prevent job creation. China today is a less corrupt society due to harsh punishment of the country. No one is scared in Nigeria about corruption because there is no consequence for corruption. 500 billionSURE-P funds declared missing today, 117 pension fund gone without true prosecution. What about fuel subsidy scandal? Umar Farouk has walked free for his crime. Nigerians are being sent to prison for 10-15 years in prisonment for stealing phones or few thousand naira. I don't know how old are you but I do know that Buhari chased corrupt politicians around like chicken and jailed many of them. That was the last time we had corrupt practices checkmated in the last 30 years in Nigeria. You claimed the GEJ administration is fighting corruption but can you explain how many he has prosecuted in three years? Alameseigha has been pardoned by GEJ. GEJ said he doesn't give a damn about declaration of asset. GEJ has 10 presidential aircraft while citizens are suffering. GEJ is into oil bunkering. Billions of naira to militants for security of oil installations whereas we have security forces to do the job. 1 billion naira refreshment budget. 1 billion naira for newspaper budget. The list is endless..............


You claimed the president doesn't influence judges? How many court cases has EFCC initiated under GEJ. Oduah is still walking freely. Do you think what Oduah, Farook, Otedola and others would have been walking freely today if they had committed crime in China? There is something we call deterrence in criminal justice. Once the deterrence is there, people tend to stay away from committing crime.
What arm of the government deals with criminals? It is the judiciary not the executive with the help of the police. Oh, I forgot that you will blame GEJ when your wife did not give birth to a male child.
Is it the president that prosecutes or the judiciary?
I told you something about the technical loopholes in the 1999 military constitution but you chose to ignore it.
Do you expect the president to throw someone in prison if the law gives the individual an option of N2 fine or 3 years in prison?
If the individual bribes his way with the judges and you have no proof, what do you want him to do?
Did GEJ acquire 10 aircrafts in 2 years?

Again, corruption stems from want and mental poverty. When one comes from lack, his mentality will be programmed in such a way that he will never be satisfied even if his account balance will take care of the United states budget for a year. He will always be scared of going back to lack and as such will continue to steal. That poverty is the reason why you will do anything to make money. If you come from a background where you didn't lack much, money won't be much of your problem. Donald Duke is an example of a governor without mental poverty. GEJ is taking care of this fundamental issue. Thank God you inadvertently acknowledged that he is creating jobs.

When the society has changed its attitude about corruption, it will be able to fight corruption. We will have more upright police officer than the bad ones. We will have more number of patriotic lawmakers than the hungry touts we have in the house. We will have more number of incorruptible judges than the likes of Ibori justice of Asaba high court.

Then, our prison will be able to contain the number of people convicted.

If you want to jail the corrupt officers now, most people will go to jail, including you and we won't have people to replace them in their offices because the society is rotten.

He will jail, he will jail. Let him jail Tinubu for accepting billions of donations from all elected people in ACN platform for his birthday.
He will jail? This is not 1984. This is a democratic dispensation. Go and read Sanusi's advice to him. He is not suitable for the present day politics. He should go and rest. Na by force? According to Sanusi, he should have followers who he has mentored that would represent his ideals. That is the hallmark of a good leader. No he has none, it has to be him. He is the only messiah. If he drops dead now, Nigeria will never be ruled by a righteous man...tell me more!
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by khamas19: 1:27pm On Nov 06, 2013
...I get a bit weary of discussions about political intrigues, suffice to say I find the trend on this thread quite tedious...

..what I want ,pardon my digression, is a government that will deliver a "sovereign national conference" in the true sense of the word....

..is that in the APC agenda? if it is then carry go!...otherwise I fear same "crap different toilet" scenario..

I quite fancy the havoc Jonathan and his PDP are creating...no one has ever made the lines of division clearer in the history of this country..

maybe we should just leave him in power to enable the quick destruction of this "Akanpo" of a nation..it will be a classic case of using your

enemy to achieve your aim...Jonathan’s /PDP's incompetence and tactlessness has been very helpful in disillusioning a lot of persons still believing

in the status quo of one Nigeria..

forgive my pessimism..weather has been quite crappy today.. smiley

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by jmaine: 1:37pm On Nov 06, 2013
agabaI23: I listened to the news bro and I didnt hear that anyone stopped him from going anywhere. Enugu airport was closed for renovation within that period. I had to fly to Owerri myself from Lagos even though Enugu was closer to my destination. What has police escort got to do with this? Yea he did not have enough money but he had enough to go round all the northern states some more than once. If you were awake during the election and you are sincere as you claim, you would have listened to neutral commentator on Channels who faulted his preoccupation with the north as a mistake. He believed he would win without votes from the South east in particular and in a particular statement, he alluded to that. In 1984, he formed a muslim-muslim ticket, in 2011, he formed a muslim semi-muslim ticket. A leopard cannot change its spots.
he refused to join the PDP but he is rejoicing that he is winning over PDP governors who make up the PDP? His APC was formed by Agrieved members of the PDP. They are the ones who funded his campaign with the same money the stole as PDP members. Now he is romacing with same PDP governors who have stolen their people dry. Amaechi bought a private jet for 7bn, APC adherents criticized because he was a PDP governor but now, he is an upright man because of his alliance with APC-joke?
Buhari does not want to join PDP and he is in an alliance with Tinubu. I am sure you know who that is? Spare me the joke bro. bring another argument.
Finally on this note look at the statement acredited to him below. He is not a sectional extremist. What is?



What arm of the government deals with criminals? It is the judiciary not the executive with the help of the police. Oh, I forgot that you will blame GEJ when your wife did not give birth to a male child.
Is it the president that prosecutes or the judiciary?
I told you something about the technical loopholes in the 1999 military constitution but you chose to ignore it.
Do you expect the president to throw someone in prison if the law gives the individual an option of N2 fine or 3 years in prison?
If the individual bribes his way with the judges and you have no proof, what do you want him to do?
Did GEJ acquire 10 aircrafts in 2 years?

Again, corruption stems from want and mental poverty. When one comes from lack, his mentality will be programmed in such a way that he will never be satisfied even if his account balance will take care of the United states budget for a year. He will always be scared of going back to lack and as such will continue to steal. That poverty is the reason why you will do anything to make money. If you come from a background where you didn't lack much, money won't be much of your problem. Donald Duke is an example of a governor without mental poverty. GEJ is taking care of this fundamental issue. Thank God you inadvertently acknowledged that he is creating jobs.

When the society has changed its attitude about corruption, it will be able to fight corruption. We will have more upright police officer than the bad ones. We will have more number of patriotic lawmakers than the hungry touts we have in the house. We will have more number of incorruptible judges than the likes of Ibori justice of Asaba high court.

Then, our prison will be able to contain the number of people convicted jailed.

If you want to jail the corrupt officers now, most people will go to jail, including you and we won't have people to replace them in their offices because the society is rotten.

He will jail, he will jail. Let him jail Tinubu for accepting billions of donations from all elected people in ACN platform for his birthday.
He will jail? This is not 1984. This is a democratic dispensation. Go and read Sanusi's advice to him. He is not suitable for the present day politics. He should go and rest. Na by force? According to Sanusi, he should have followers who he has mentored that would represent his ideals. That is the hallmark of a good leader. No he has none, it has to be him. He is the only messiah. If he drops dead now, Nigeria will never be ruled by a righteous man...tell me more!

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by revolt(m): 2:17pm On Nov 06, 2013
CyberG:

I know you are Ibo and what has bringing tribalism into this debate by mentioning Yorubas? You have no evidence that any part of Nigeria hates capitalism - Dangote is a northerner and he is far ahead of all business men in your neck of the woods, so can be be said to be a better capitalist than all your people? You gave the example of the privatization of power and again blame the Yorubas but why?? Again you seem not to know or ignore the fact that there were more Yorubas who participated and bought more power companies than the people in your mind are the ones who are the poster boys for capitalism! Stop all these emotional response to issues and think about the facts! That you don't know certain simple facts or ignore them does not mean other people are not aware!
now as usual u sieved all I said and pickd on the line which suits ur argumnt of painting ma person as bigot! Now ill explaim y I pointed a finger @ yorobz! I haven't seen any yorob that has ever supported a good policy by GEj(one single one), the subsidy removal was fought mostly by the west. When soludo planned to implement the 25billion recapitalisation scheme, western technocrats faulted his paper ideologies as opposed to reality on ground! We know the result thereafter. GEjs dispensation has been painted by western media as the worst govt in nigerias history and why? Cos he's changing the status quo ie level playing ground for all and gradually removn viable sectors from govt control, by implication stallin all govt contractors(our greatest problems). Isn't it shocking that @least all yorubz on NL diss GEJ n support buhari! Atleast we knw so many SS\SE NLnders tht oppose GEJ! Dangote isn't a capitalist perse cos he only operates in sectors he's been able to monopolise via FG support! But well thts topic 4 anoda day. How can u guys point fingers @ GEJ and elevate APC wif Tinubu as the leadr! Hypocrisy @ its peak
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by agabaI23(m): 2:58pm On Nov 06, 2013
Buhari and Ali Modu Sherriff the father of Boko Haram together in the same photo. Should I be surprised?

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by agabaI23(m): 3:00pm On Nov 06, 2013
Buhari and Ali Modu Sherriff the father of Boko Haram together in the same photo. Should I be surprised?

Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Katsumoto: 3:17pm On Nov 06, 2013
agabaI23: Buhari and Ali Modu Sherriff the father of Boko Haram together in the same photo. Should I be surprised?

If it is generally agreed that Sheriff is the father of Boko Haram, then why is he walking around as a free man? Shouldn't the president be pressing for his arrest and conviction?

Do you mean GEJ doesn't have the balls to arrest the founder but prefers to put Nigerian soldiers at harms way by chasing foot soldiers?

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by OdaNobunaga(m): 4:18pm On Nov 06, 2013
Katsumoto:

If it is generally agreed that Sheriff is the father of Boko Haram, then why is he walking around as a free man? Shouldn't the president be pressing for his arrest and conviction?

Do you mean GEJ doesn't have the balls to arrest the founder but prefers to put Nigerian soldiers at harms way by chasing foot soldiers?

i ve come to find ur line of reasoning/response vry enjoyable.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by CyberG: 4:21pm On Nov 06, 2013
revolt: now as usual u sieved all I said and pickd on the line which suits ur argumnt of painting ma person as bigot! Now ill explaim y I pointed a finger @ yorobz! I haven't seen any yorob that has ever supported a good policy by GEj(one single one), the subsidy removal was fought mostly by the west. When soludo planned to implement the 25billion recapitalisation scheme, western technocrats faulted his paper ideologies as opposed to reality on ground! We know the result thereafter. GEjs dispensation has been painted by western media as the worst govt in nigerias history and why? Cos he's changing the status quo ie level playing ground for all and gradually removn viable sectors from govt control, by implication stallin all govt contractors(our greatest problems). Isn't it shocking that @least all yorubz on NL diss GEJ n support buhari! Atleast we knw so many SS\SE NLnders tht oppose GEJ! Dangote isn't a capitalist perse cos he only operates in sectors he's been able to monopolise via FG support! But well thts topic 4 anoda day. How can u guys point fingers @ GEJ and elevate APC wif Tinubu as the leadr! Hypocrisy @ its peak

Well, you are still responding with a lot of emotions, not objectivity! I am therefore not surprised you've blindly cited examples that are clearly bad policies for which we already have the results! First, understand that Yorubas will never oppose a good policy because if they did, all Yoruba land will be worse than Iboland but everyone in Nigeria and foreigners would visit the South West 99.99% times before they visit the East, do you know why?? Head over to http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5985.html and see that there is no mention of any Yoruba State on that list, which means even foreigners know where bad policies has created a terrible and criminal society. There is no need to be emotional about this because everyone wants to tell others that their father's farm is the biggest and best but here is an unbiased third party telling you that there is no evidence of a consistently criminal society in Yoruba land which is always the product of bad policies!

That out of the way, you mentioned the subsidy removal policy, which has again proved to be a terrible policy. My question is: can you tell from any facts on ground that subsidy removal and the SURE-P has impacted the life of the ordinary citizen? Are you better off today than you were before the subsidy removal? Unemployment was around 24% in the days of Yara'adua but now well over 30% according to the FG NBS! Yesterday, N 500 B of the so called subsidy savings money was declared to be missing by the law makers and are calling for an investigation! I may bot recollect all the facts but the biggest issue that a lot of common sensical Nigerians had about the subsidy removal was that the so called palliatives ought to have been in full effect before removing the subsidy, so how does putting the cart before the horse become good policy? Buying a few buses for all the states (assuming that was done) will never make a dent on the transportation problems, has it helped the ordinary people? A government, so insensitive to the people, abruptly cuts off "subsidy" which every informed commentator said there is NO SUBSIDY and smart people said, look it is bad policy to just wake up on New Year day and make such wholesale changes without planning for the consequences in advance but we all see they were right - SURE-P and subsidy removal has NOT helped 99.99% of Nigerians! Your YOU-WIN has not reduced employment has it? So if your relative was in the hospital and on life support with oxygen masks in his / her nose, you will think it a good decision for the doctor to take off the life support and oxygen because he thinks the treatment he is about to administer will heal him?? Think!

Oh and the 25 B capitalization was a farce, a falsity! It was a charade otherwise, why did Oceanic and Intercontinental Bank go belly-up as soon as the Soludo lie was replaced by someone who refused to cover-up for the banking system in order to perpetuate a false impression of performance? That is what Soludo did, he basically was pulling wool over the eyes of Nigerians!

Yoruba people can support anyone, that is not your decision but theirs! Of course by every index of performance and record, GEJ cannot mop the floor that Buhari steps on in the area of leadership. GEJ is a failure and history will vindicate that position because the cracks in Nigerian society has never been more pronounced with any other leader who leads by tribal and religious pandering. By your standards where you come from, GEJ might be next to the best leader ever from your region because at least he has not supervised the killing of up to 3 M people yet but maybe a few thousands! This kind of person cannot lead or win anything in Yoruba land - imagine that OBJ celebrated by others is not considered a leader by most Yorubas. It is funny ibos keep ingloriously prefixing Tinubu's name with "Thief" but I ask, what did he STEAL from Iboland? Can you show when he stole a dime there because the plunderers of Iboland are all Ibos and if Tinubu who was tried by the PDP FG government of GEJ could not convict him of corruption, is it you an unknown quantity that knows better? Your local government right now in your land has been plundered to the ground but you see no evil there, but 800 KM away you are crying about Yoruba land that has always been ahead in everything in the geographical space called Nigeria? Physician, heal thyself! grin grin You call Tinubu a thief and Buhari a terrorist, yet the PDP GEJ government pretends to be ignorant about all of these, while controlling the army, police and all instruments of state with more than 50% of all important positions controlled by the Ibos and Jonathan's Ijaw kinsmen, yet they have been chasing shadows since budgeting almost N 1 Tr for security, are you saying you know something nobody else knows? I am sure your level of mental cognition must be apalling even to a tuber of yam!

Finally, your English and communication skills is atrocious and unfitting of a human in a public discourse! It shows your education is of low quality or you are just mentally lazy and you would rather not apply yourself to learning how to communicate properly! Perhaps, you are an illiterate who has been recruited into the 40-lapdog squad and all you do daily is to muddy intellectual issues with low level retarded talk to distract the issues!

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by dayokanu(m): 4:34pm On Nov 06, 2013
agabaI23: Buhari and Ali Modu Sherriff the father of Boko Haram together in the same photo. Should I be surprised?

What happens if I put up a picture of Ali Modu Sheriff and Goodluck Jonathan Should I be surprised to see both of them in the same picture
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 4:36pm On Nov 06, 2013
dayokanu:

What happens if I put up a picture of Ali Modu Sheriff and Goodluck Jonathan Should I be surprised to see both of them in the same picture
We still haven't finished discussing the links between Henry Okah and GEJ and how a South African court said by the preponderance of the evidence, it is clear Gej knew about the bombings that killed innocent Nigerians and landed Mr.Okah a Life term prison sentence.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 5:57pm On Nov 06, 2013
PDP have always been there since inception and we've not seen any significant change,let us give the opposition the benefit of doubt.change is the only constant thing in life and for you to work with the change you must be able to accept it-we have always had pdp there and no significant change so why not try another political party.
we have to put our ethnic and religious sentiment aside and vote for change.
buhari / fashola combo will do for me.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Katsumoto: 6:30pm On Nov 06, 2013
Oda_Nobunaga:

i ve come to find ur line of reasoning/response vry enjoyable.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Katsumoto: 6:35pm On Nov 06, 2013
Tadon200: PDP have always been there since inception and we've not seen any significant change,let us give the opposition the benefit of doubt.change is the only constant thing in life and for you to work with the change you must be able to accept it-we have always had pdp there and no significant change so why not try another political party.
we have to put our ethnic and religious sentiment aside and vote for change.
buhari / fashola combo will do for me.

That is the beauty of democracy. Citizens are meant to vote out non-performing administrators. If you keep voting in the same clueless and corrupt politicians, how do you ensure you receive positive change? If PDP is not punished at the polls, it will not change. Since 1999, Nigeria has been regressing under PDP. OBJ and GEJ are masters of corruption, GEJ adds cluelessness and weakness to his own. Yar Adua wasn't as corrupt but he had little vision. Try a different party and when they fail, you change again.

The new APC governors in the SW may not be the most competent administrators but they are a million times better than the rogues OBJ selected in 2003/2007. Now it is clear to APC as well that it can be voted out of power.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 6:44pm On Nov 06, 2013
Day by day buhari's support base is swelling

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by agabaI23(m): 7:03pm On Nov 06, 2013
Katsumoto:

If it is generally agreed that Sheriff is the father of Boko Haram, then why is he walking around as a free man? Shouldn't the president be pressing for his arrest and conviction?

Do you mean GEJ doesn't have the balls to arrest the founder but prefers to put Nigerian soldiers at harms way by chasing foot soldiers?
The same reason Tinubu is working around a free man. The same reason IBB is still walking around free. The reason is we know the truth but have no concrete evidence.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Katsumoto: 7:47pm On Nov 06, 2013
agabaI23: The same reason Tinubu is working around a free man. The same reason IBB is still working around free. The reason is we know the truth but have no concrete evidence.

Are you sure there is no evidence to convict all three and all others or GEJ, like others before him, just doesn't have the balls to convict them? Given that Sheriff's crime is current in GEJ's administration, it makes the most sense to find the evidence to convict him. Why do captured BH members keep escaping? What happened to Azazi's public declaration that PDP was behind BH? Why is GEJ pursuing an inefficient strategy of chasing foot soldiers when the planners and backers are walking freely? Why is it that Nigerian leaders are so daft or think that others are daft? Same thing with MEND - they were causing havoc during the week only to surface at weekends driving around cities in their SUVs, drinking and partying. Do Nigerians understand that you have to remain in an enclave when you are part of an insurgency? GEJ should show he is a bold leader and arrest Sheriff and all those connected to him. If there is evidence linking Buhari to BH, then prosecute him as well instead of using paid agents to smear the generals name.

It is for this same reason why many are supporting Buhari. Buhari may end up not arresting and prosecuting all thieves but I am sure he will try the most notorious ones amongst them. While it is idealistic for all corrupt folks to be convicted, starting with a few will do for now.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by dad007(m): 7:49pm On Nov 06, 2013
Katsumoto: @ Edo Girl

I disagree with the choice of Ameachi as VP on the following grounds

1. He doesn't have a large amount of supporters. Most voters in Ameachi's region will vote GEJ anyway; so what leverage does Ameachi have?

2. A more competent administrator should be VP to Buhari. I don't see why Fashola should be overlooked on the basis of religion. June 12, a muslim/muslim ticket won against a Muslim/Xtian ticket.
My sentiment exactly.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by revolt(m): 11:18pm On Nov 06, 2013
CyberG:

Well, you are still responding with a lot of emotions, not objectivity! I am therefore not surprised you've blindly cited examples that are clearly bad policies for which we already have the results! First, understand that Yorubas will never oppose a good policy because if they did, all Yoruba land will be worse than Iboland but everyone in Nigeria and foreigners would visit the South West 99.99% times before they visit the East, do you know why?? Head over to http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5985.html and see that there is no mention of any Yoruba State on that list, which means even foreigners know where bad policies has created a terrible and criminal society. There is no need to be emotional about this because everyone wants to tell others that their father's farm is the biggest and best but here is an unbiased third party telling you that there is no evidence of a consistently criminal society in Yoruba land which is always the product of bad policies!

That out of the way, you mentioned the subsidy removal policy, which has again proved to be a terrible policy. My question is: can you tell from any facts on ground that subsidy removal and the SURE-P has impacted the life of the ordinary citizen? Are you better off today than you were before the subsidy removal? Unemployment was around 24% in the days of Yara'adua but now well over 30% according to the FG NBS! Yesterday, N 500 B of the so called subsidy savings money was declared to be missing by the law makers and are calling for an investigation! I may bot recollect all the facts but the biggest issue that a lot of common sensical Nigerians had about the subsidy removal was that the so called palliatives ought to have been in full effect before removing the subsidy, so how does putting the cart before the horse become good policy? Buying a few buses for all the states (assuming that was done) will never make a dent on the transportation problems, has it helped the ordinary people? A government, so insensitive to the people, abruptly cuts off "subsidy" which every informed commentator said there is NO SUBSIDY and smart people said, look it is bad policy to just wake up on New Year day and make such wholesale changes without planning for the consequences in advance but we all see they were right - SURE-P and subsidy removal has NOT helped 99.99% of Nigerians! Your YOU-WIN has not reduced employment has it? So if your relative was in the hospital and on life support with oxygen masks in his / her nose, you will think it a good decision for the doctor to take off the life support and oxygen because he thinks the treatment he is about to administer will heal him?? Think!

Oh and the 25 B capitalization was a farce, a falsity! It was a charade otherwise, why did Oceanic and Intercontinental Bank go belly-up as soon as the Soludo lie was replaced by someone who refused to cover-up for the banking system in order to perpetuate a false impression of performance? That is what Soludo did, he basically was pulling wool over the eyes of Nigerians!

Yoruba people can support anyone, that is not your decision but theirs! Of course by every index of performance and record, GEJ cannot mop the floor that Buhari steps on in the area of leadership. GEJ is a failure and history will vindicate that position because the cracks in Nigerian society has never been more pronounced with any other leader who leads by tribal and religious pandering. By your standards where you come from, GEJ might be next to the best leader ever from your region because at least he has not supervised the killing of up to 3 M people yet but maybe a few thousands! This kind of person cannot lead or win anything in Yoruba land - imagine that OBJ celebrated by others is not considered a leader by most Yorubas. It is funny ibos keep ingloriously prefixing Tinubu's name with "Thief" but I ask, what did he STEAL from Iboland? Can you show when he stole a dime there because the plunderers of Iboland are all Ibos and if Tinubu who was tried by the PDP FG government of GEJ could not convict him of corruption, is it you an unknown quantity that knows better? Your local government right now in your land has been plundered to the ground but you see no evil there, but 800 KM away you are crying about Yoruba land that has always been ahead in everything in the geographical space called Nigeria? Physician, heal thyself! grin grin You call Tinubu a thief and Buhari a terrorist, yet the PDP GEJ government pretends to be ignorant about all of these, while controlling the army, police and all instruments of state with more than 50% of all important positions controlled by the Ibos and Jonathan's Ijaw kinsmen, yet they have been chasing shadows since budgeting almost N 1 Tr for security, are you saying you know something nobody else knows? I am sure your level of mental cognition must be apalling even to a tuber of yam!

Finally, your English and communication skills is atrocious and unfitting of a human in a public discourse! It shows your education is of low quality or you are just mentally lazy and you would rather not apply yourself to learning how to communicate properly! Perhaps, you are an illiterate who has been recruited into the 40-lapdog squad and all you do daily is to muddy intellectual issues with low level retarded talk to distract the issues!
mr intellectual! Ok I hear u! The subsidy bla blabla.... U guys r funny. Obviously u dnt evn understand what deregulation and subsidy removal was all about. Let me illustrate @ ur level of undstandn. Let's say ure a prospective investor in petroleum products, ud obviously want to fix ur price so as to maximize profit. Then the govt tells u to sell @ a particular price range promising to pay the remaining balance ( a govt thts known for complacency and instability) would u invest in such a place? Now gej removed the subsidy so investors could obtain control of their price mechanism, @least tht would set the stage in wooing core investors tht would create jobs for us and create progressive drive in tht sector. You guys were so bland to realise tht 97naira benchmark ddnt mean nyfin ie its either the subsidy goes completely or is retained. Whether 97 or 99 as long as it stays nobody would invest. You talk of palliatives, may I ask if we also require palliatives now the power sector has been privatised.
500billion SUREp funds missn? If the subsidy was completely removed there wouldn't be need for SUREP. Matter of fact, We do not care what they do with the oil money all we need is jobs, and how do u create them? Capitalism.
I cnt lecture u on the intricacies of deregulation go educate urself.
Obviously most of yall had no idea of what the ojota jamboree was all about, or who sponsored the whole charade.
Tinubu is mentioned here cos he's the leader of APC (he's nt the only yorub thief, MKO the great MKO surpassed him), he's only mentioned here cos u ppl make APC look like the meSsiah party. Twas pwetty lousy to ask if hed stolen any thing from igbos, forgetn tht igbos contribute a lot to LIRS. So by proximity were also victims.
The 25billion recapitalisation brought about 25 strong banks tht employed over 10thousand ppl(well paid), oceanic n intcontinental went down but generally aside oil coys, bankn still remains the second most viable sector , thnks to soludo. And if u must knw, sanusi in his overzealousness could hve saved those banks by simply changing the CEOs but ofcos he's a mallam.
Ofcos yorobz can vote or reject ny one, but wen I state the obvious, u call me a bigot n emotional.

ErrRm Now this is an online forum, if u seek English proficiency accolades, u can visit TOEFL website, I'm in no mood to waste my spell checks on esatz intellectuals.

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Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 7:22am On Nov 07, 2013
agabaI23: The same reason Tinubu is working around a free man. The same reason IBB is still working around free. The reason is we know the truth but have no concrete evidence.

Look as you just dey disgrace yourself. Only Yoruba and Northern thieves in Nigeria, ba?

P.S: Who is this freeman Nigerian crooks keep "working" around? undecided

All the time you spend on the net spewing hate could be put to better use picking up a dictionary.
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by agabaI23(m): 8:20am On Nov 07, 2013
kingoflag:

Look as you just dey disgrace yourself. Only Yoruba and Northern thieves in Nigeria, ba?

P.S: Who is this freeman Nigerian crooks keep "working" around? undecided

All the time you spend on the net spewing hate could be put to better use picking up a dictionary.
Disgracing myself because I mistyped? You will have to upgrade. BTW thanks for the free editing. I think someone else should extend the same favour to You. Are you sure the remaining part of your post was actually for me?
Re: BUHARI/ AMAECHI For 2015. Hmmm... by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 07, 2013
agabaI23: Disgracing myself because I mistyped? You will have to upgrade. BTW thanks for the free editing. I think someone else should extend the same favour to You. Are you sure the remaining part of your post was actually for me?
Shut up, mugu!

Mistype is when you do it once, illiteracy is when you do it multiple times.

Take a wild guess what you are.....

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