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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Goddex: 11:04am On Dec 02, 2013
20pounds: Pls I have a few questions.

1. Why is it that the members of the opposition are in support of ASUU? Is it borne out of love for ASUU or the students and their parents? Is ASUU another arm of the APC now? Is it borne out of hatrd for d govt and pull him down syndrome?

2. Since ASUU said it is fighting for the interest of the students, can we conduct a poll among the students to know if they want to go back to classes or continue with the strike?

3. If FG pays ASUU for d period they hav bn at home, who is going to pay the students for lost time and rent that have accrued on their apartments? Since ASUU is fighting for the students, let dem consider their salaries as part of d sacrifice just as d students have sacrificed time and rent on this strike.

4. Should any responsible govt sit down and watch the future of the youngsters truncated by any organisation?

5. When last I checked ASUU is a trade union that fights for the interest of the lecturers or has it become an arm of NANS? If not, then the ASUU that I know was set up to fight for lecturers interest.

6. Why is this strike about money and not forcing govt to erect d structures instead of asking to be handed d money?

[size=16pt]Bros, this is the dumbasss situation we find ourselves in this country. Even the APC media and their e-rats here on nairaland opening their stinking mouths did everything to justify the action of Fashola when he sacked Lagos doctors for striking. All of them now suddenly support ASUU because they see it as an opportunity to run down the federal govt. And we expect Nigeria to progress with these tribal, religious, ethnic, political sentiments beclouding our sense of reasoning?[/size]

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by ITbomb(m): 11:06am On Dec 02, 2013
scribble:
“Given the fact that government had reached agreement with ASUU to make available N100 billion for the provision of infrastructure on campuses of 61 universities covered in the needs assessment of universities, with a further commitment of another N200 billion over the next two years, and N40 billion of the N90 billion Earned Allowances demanded by the lecturers one would have expected them to reconsider their stand.
All ASUU is now saying is, 'Put those words on a paper and endorsed it and we will call off the strike, should that be a difficult task for a sincere promise and keep government?
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[size=14pt]ASUU embarked on strike based on "failed' promises and still go back to class based on "Promises . Does that make sense at all? Let's fight this once and for all!![/size]

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by alcuin(m): 11:07am On Dec 02, 2013
rman:

Exactly the way the military would have handled this situation.
Are you indirectly saying we are back in the military era?

This has nothing to do with military era. It is just the perfect antidote for situations like this. Either in a democratic era or otherwise.

The military failed because then ASUU was united and they had the support of Nigerians. The government was the enemy.

Now, it is a different game. ASUU is disunited and losing support from Nigerians by the day.

In all honesty, ASUU point is understandable but they are going on the extreme. Sometimes, when you over-react to make a point, you also kill the point you are trying to make. ASUU has been sabotaged and hijacked, it doesn't take a PH.D in political science to see this.

The FG must sanitize this before it becomes a national disaster.

Desperate situations need desperate measures.

I support FG.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by pawesome(m): 11:10am On Dec 02, 2013
u no work for 5mnths den u get mind to cum meet me say mk I pay u? Hw Na..na plant I plant d moni...if its done like dt,den wen any organisatn is tired f working,is a simple tin Na.go on strike n u shall be paid..shikenan. .lazy set f people

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by honeric01(m): 11:27am On Dec 02, 2013
Sir-Tunechi:

what is this one saying
Your mentor faggae is a big thief, he doesn't want fg to invest in education themselves but to hand over the money to him. When did our lecturers become contractors, abi na dem get university
Majority of the lecturers are not even aware of the activities of the ASUU nec.

I repeat again, go and learn how to find out things yourself and stop waiting for people to spoon feed you. Faggae is now my mentor because i told you the truth you have no knowledge of?

Since FG doesn't want to invest in education themselves, we should all sit down and be waiting until their brains tick to do the needful maybe in 2055?

Lastly, ASUU is not asking for the money to be given to them, infact you don't need education, when you do, kindly go to the education board to educate yourself better on what's on ground and stop joining the bandwagon we have already.
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Nobody: 11:31am On Dec 02, 2013
the FG Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God too – ConcernedYouths

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by texazzpete(m): 11:40am On Dec 02, 2013
alcuin:
Now, it is a different game. ASUU is disunited and losing support from Nigerians by the day.

Yet another indication that the vast majority of Nigerians are gutless and cowardly.


alcuin:
ASUU has been sabotaged and hijacked, it doesn't take a PH.D in political science to see this.

No. ASUU was 'sabotaged and hijacked' when they would go on strike and resume lectures on the basis of empty promises with nothing signed on paper. Now, they are finally fighting for the right thing. It takes a mentally inept fellow to insinuate that the strike is 'political' or has been 'hijacked'.

alcuin:

The FG must sanitize this before it becomes a national disaster.

It was a national disaster more than a decade ago when our universities started churning out unemployable graduates, when lecture halls had the shoddiest of equipment available, when the conditions of service of lecturers was so poor that only the poorest graduates wanted to stay back to lecture.

alcuin:
Desperate situations need desperate measures.

I don't get you...is it that you do not truly appreciate how terrible our Universities are now? Is it that you do not see how DESPERATELY our tertiary institutions needs revamping...our labs, hostels, lecture halls etc? Is it that you are blind to see that only a small fraction of the truly gifted graduates stay back to teach others and pass on their knowledge as lecturers?

Well, some of us aren't as blind as you are...and we see that truly, desperate times require desperate measures. Kudos to ASUU!


alcuin:
I support FG.

This is exactly what makes the FG happy. One ignorant fellow supporting an FEC that has ZERO of their nuclear family members studying in a Federal University. All their kids enjoy top-of-the line University education. It must tickle them pink when students in Federal Universities that make do with labs with defunct equipment are 'supporting them'.

You poor, naive fellow.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by samilo88(m): 11:45am On Dec 02, 2013
Demdem: Okupe the dog isn't making sense.
It's Jonathan and his govt that is being insincere.
Don't expect ASUU back in classes until retardeen signs his agreement with ASUU on paper.
Bros we were looking for u all through d weekend when Obiano was declared winner. ASUU would return to the classrooms and you can GO AND DIE afterwards.
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by MAYOWAAK: 11:57am On Dec 02, 2013
“We are borrowing more money today at a higher interest rate while leaving the heavy debt burden for our children and grandchildren. In one year of the administration of President Jonathan, Nigeria’s debt profile has risen by N1.21tn, and if left unchecked, would result into hardship for Nigerians". - CBN Governor

Methinks all the political distractions unnecessarily heating up the polity are deliberately orchestrated by the presidency to divert our attention from the real issues. We will all wake up one morning to realize that this country has been sold. The sale is still on. Going, going .....

Let's do the needful in 2015!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by rman: 12:02pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete:

Yet another indication that the vast majority of Nigerians are gutless and cowardly.




No. ASUU was 'sabotaged and hijacked' when they would go on strike and resume lectures on the basis of empty promises with nothing signed on paper. Now, they are finally fighting for the right thing. It takes a mentally inept fellow to insinuate that the strike is 'political' or has been 'hijacked'.



It was a national disaster more than a decade ago when our universities started churning out unemployable graduates, when lecture halls had the shoddiest of equipment available, when the conditions of service of lecturers was so poor that only the poorest graduates wanted to stay back to lecture.



I don't get you...is it that you do not truly appreciate how terrible our Universities are now? Is it that you do not see how DESPERATELY our tertiary institutions needs revamping...our labs, hostels, lecture halls etc? Is it that you are blind to see that only a small fraction of the truly gifted graduates stay back to teach others and pass on their knowledge as lecturers?

Well, some of us aren't as blind as you are...and we see that truly, desperate times require desperate measures. Kudos to ASUU!




This is exactly what makes the FG happy. One ignorant fellow supporting an FEC that has ZERO of their nuclear family members studying in a Federal University. All their kids enjoy top-of-the line University education. It must tickle them pink when students in Federal Universities that make do with labs with defunct equipment are 'supporting them'.

You poor, naive fellow.

I deliberately didn't reply the ignorant fellow.

You can deduce his response has political undertones.
The opposition hijacked ASUU, how petty can the Jonathanians get.

What is so difficult in putting in black and white and let the appropriate personnel append their signature to what was agreed upon?

All the major issues that came up under this administration has been resolved only with emotional blackmail. They result to ethnic ( Odua gate) , religious ( bokoharam) , and some dubious shenanigans to have their way. Now they are trying to paint the lectures as bad people against the government, when it was the government that failed to keep its own promise in the first place.

Nothing was resolved based on facts and logical approach. NOTHING!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Reptyle(m): 12:12pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete:

Yet another indication that the vast majority of Nigerians are gutless and cowardly.




No. ASUU was 'sabotaged and hijacked' when they would go on strike and resume lectures on the basis of empty promises with nothing signed on paper. Now, they are finally fighting for the right thing. It takes a mentally inept fellow to insinuate that the strike is 'political' or has been 'hijacked'.



It was a national disaster more than a decade ago when our universities started churning out unemployable graduates, when lecture halls had the shoddiest of equipment available, when the conditions of service of lecturers was so poor that only the poorest graduates wanted to stay back to lecture.



I don't get you...is it that you do not truly appreciate how terrible our Universities are now? Is it that you do not see how DESPERATELY our tertiary institutions needs revamping...our labs, hostels, lecture halls etc? Is it that you are blind to see that only a small fraction of the truly gifted graduates stay back to teach others and pass on their knowledge as lecturers?

Well, some of us aren't as blind as you are...and we see that truly, desperate times require desperate measures. Kudos to ASUU!




This is exactly what makes the FG happy. One ignorant fellow supporting an FEC that has ZERO of their nuclear family members studying in a Federal University. All their kids enjoy top-of-the line University education. It must tickle them pink when students in Federal Universities that make do with labs with defunct equipment are 'supporting them'.

You poor, naive fellow.


Word!!!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by ebenezerola(m): 12:15pm On Dec 02, 2013
Fed govt should pay the money, if fed govt are sincere they should sign it on paper, fed govt self are not sincere by themselves. Ghana go on strike for one and half year to get it right, why not Nigeria
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by alcuin(m): 12:20pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete:

Yet another indication that the vast majority of Nigerians are gutless and cowardly.


Never you classify Nigerians as such. In a time where you hear of MEND, NPDVF, Ombatse, Boko Haram etc, taking arms and fighting the government hands down for however frivolous their reasons may be. This is hardly the hallmarks of a gutless and cowardly people.

texazzpete:
No. ASUU was 'sabotaged and hijacked' when they would go on strike and resume lectures on the basis of empty promises with nothing signed on paper. Now, they are finally fighting for the right thing. It takes a mentally inept fellow to insinuate that the strike is 'political' or has been 'hijacked'.

It takes the wise to know that ASUU have been shifting the goal post when the game is on ever since. First, it was earned allowances. In fact, that was the main reason the wise was declared. Consult July 1st 2013 newspapers for reference. Since, that didn't hold much sway, to gather sympathy, the issue of 2009 agreement and full implementation was brought on board, knowing fully well that FG cannot fully implement it. After much tussles, the president met with ASUU and new proposals came. Next, the unfortunate death of Prof Iyayi. ASUU blamed FG and says it will not call off strike until he is fully buried. However childish it may sound but this caused a real row in ASUU circles. In further to stall and sabotage the efforts, new demands on the president signature and co was brought up when a representative of the FG has signed the document. The most annoying of all, demanding that salaries must be paid and immediate disbursal of some billions.

texazzpete:

It was a national disaster more than a decade ago when our universities started churning out unemployable graduates, when lecture halls had the shoddiest of equipment available, when the conditions of service of lecturers was so poor that only the poorest graduates wanted to stay back to lecture.

Just one question, if graduates are unemployable and as it is popularly said "half-baked". Who are the chefs?


texazzpete:
I don't get you...is it that you do not truly appreciate how terrible our Universities are now? Is it that you do not see how DESPERATELY our tertiary institutions needs revamping...our labs, hostels, lecture halls etc? Is it that you are blind to see that only a small fraction of the truly gifted graduates stay back to teach others and pass on their knowledge as lecturers?

Well, some of us aren't as blind as you are...and we see that truly, desperate times require desperate measures. Kudos to ASUU!

I see those things and I am a student too. But Rome wasn't built in a day, it is a gradual process. Come to think of it, ASUU played a great role in the decay via strikes and non-performance. Know the real enemy.
ASUU should cooperate with FG in tackling this mess and not arm-twisting the government.



texazzpete:
This is exactly what makes the FG happy. One ignorant fellow supporting an FEC that has ZERO of their nuclear family members studying in a Federal University. All their kids enjoy top-of-the line University education. It must tickle them pink when students in Federal Universities that make do with labs with defunct equipment are 'supporting them'.
It also makes ASUU happy to know the very students whose feelings were not considered when decisions that have a strong effect on their future negatively is made is supporting them on their selfish course and mission to dis-stabilize the already fragile nation.

texazzpete:
You poor, naive fellow.
Thanks, but the country comes first before any union.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Nobody: 12:26pm On Dec 02, 2013
Demdem: Okupe the dog isn't making sense.
It's Jonathan and his govt that is being insincere.
Don't expect ASUU back in classes until retardeen signs his agreement with ASUU on paper.
cant u make sense without calling names?? if u want ppl to listen to u, chairman u have to be rational.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Nobody: 12:35pm On Dec 02, 2013
Men with determination dont make noise. They simply act. Our lecturers have shown that they are the real men in the game. Despite the presidency noise and all that. ASUU had kept silent and unresolved.
GEJ and co should learn from these men of character.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by kabba7(m): 1:19pm On Dec 02, 2013
A dangerous dimension is gradually taking shape , That the president of Nigeria is not trust worthy that his words are not his bond . Or is that ok ?
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by lincolnj88: 1:21pm On Dec 02, 2013
azeezhy: Men with determination dont make noise. They simply act. Our lecturers have shown that they are the real men in the game. Despite the presidency noise and all that. ASUU had kept silent and unresolved.
GEJ and co should learn from these men of character.
grin when ur uncle will be sacked on wednesday ur eye go come clear.......
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by texazzpete(m): 1:49pm On Dec 02, 2013
alcuin:

Never you classify Nigerians as such. In a time where you hear of MEND, NPDVF, Ombatse, Boko Haram etc, taking arms and fighting the government hands down for however frivolous their reasons may be. This is hardly the hallmarks of a gutless and cowardly people.


LMAO! Those are people fighting for their own self-fulfilment. Either monetary (like most of the ND militants) or religious (Ombatse, Boko Haram. Within the populace, there is no stomach for any struggle for their rights. Certainly, Nigerians will never do what the Egyptian masses did, or the tunisians, or the Yemenis, or the Turks...



alcuin:

It takes the wise to know that ASUU have been shifting the goal post when the game is on ever since. First, it was earned allowances. In fact, that was the main reason the wise was declared. Consult July 1st 2013 newspapers for reference. Since, that didn't hold much sway, to gather sympathy, the issue of 2009 agreement and full implementation was brought on board, knowing fully well that FG cannot fully implement it. After much tussles, the president met with ASUU and new proposals came. Next, the unfortunate death of Prof Iyayi. ASUU blamed FG and says it will not call off strike until he is fully buried. However childish it may sound but this caused a real row in ASUU circles. In further to stall and sabotage the efforts, new demands on the president signature and co was brought up when a representative of the FG has signed the document. The most annoying of all, demanding that salaries must be paid and immediate disbursal of some billions.


The strike has always been mainly about the 2009 agreement. The earned allowances are also part of the 2009 agreement.
I wish you would take time to listen to yourself. You insinuate that ASUU is mischievously bringing up the 2009 agreement because they 'know that the FG cannot fully implement it'. Are you saying that ASUU held a gun to the heads of the FG negotiation team back in 2009? Are you aware that GEJ was a part and parcel of that agreement? When you sign an agreement, you stand by it.

I wonder if you can tell your local bank that you will not honor your loan repayments that you signed because 'they know fully well you cannot implement it'. cheesy


alcuin:
Just one question, if graduates are unemployable and as it is popularly said "half-baked". Who are the chefs?

I'm going to put most of the blame on the FG, sorry to burst your bubble. The best of lecturers will be hamstrung by substandard equipment. Years of FG neglect has led to the inability of the Universities to attract/retain the best brains.

Of course there are some lecturers that are plain bad. Some are mediocre. Some have absolutely no business lecturing. But it is irresponsible to stereotype all lecturers as lazy, corrupt, perverted deviants. I see some students on Nairaland doing this and posting anecdotal evidence as support. This, of course, is as brainless as claiming that all students are cultists and killers because we all know some students that are cultists.


alcuin:
I see those things and I am a student too. But Rome wasn't built in a day, it is a gradual process. Come to think of it, ASUU played a great role in the decay via strikes and non-performance. Know the real enemy.
ASUU should cooperate with FG in tackling this mess and not arm-twisting the government.

Well, good for you, but I am not a student. In fact, I graduated about 10 years ago. This is why I can see the folly in your 'Rome was not built in a day' mantra. They were saying that in my days. If ASUU does not fight, they will be saying the same thing in your Children's time too.
Let me ask you: If ASUU does not fight, who will? NANS? cheesy
Let me tell you who will fight. Nobody. You'll all manage it and smile and graduate and go for NYSC and the next set will come to take their place in the decrepit universities.

ASUU 'co-operated with the FG' for 3 years by engaging in dialogue, hoping for implementation of the 2009 agreement. What did they gain? What did they gain?



alcuin:
It also makes ASUU happy to know the very students whose feelings were not considered when decisions that have a strong effect on their future negatively is made is supporting them on their selfish course and mission to dis-stabilize the already fragile nation.


Again you show a critical lack of understanding that is unbecoming of an Undergraduate. 'Selfish course'? The 200b per year they've won from the FG as a minimum, is that going into ASUU coffers? Moneis distributed to Universities for CAPITAL PROJECTS are dispensed by the VC/Bursar with oversight from the Senate. Last I checked, the VC and Bursar aren't ASUU members.
Can you tell me how going on strike is 'destabilizing the already fragile nation'? You sound like someone reading from the FG/PDP manual cheesy

A delay of 6 months will unfortunately delay one set of students, but it is not a crippling setback. Failure to improve our Universities will see Nigeria doomed to being a second class Nation. Fixing our Universities will bring a drastic improvement in the lives of many more sets of students to come.


alcuin:
Thanks, but the country comes first before any union.

I agree! The unholy Union of the FG, NANS and the horde of brainless students out there must be made to understand that the status quo they are so desperate to maintain will see Nigeria further slip down the dark path of failure!

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by alcuin(m): 2:32pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete:


LMAO! Those are people fighting for their own self-fulfilment. Either monetary (like most of the ND militants) or religious (Ombatse, Boko Haram. Within the populace, there is no stomach for any struggle for their rights. Certainly, Nigerians will never do what the Egyptian masses did, or the tunisians, or the Yemenis, or the Turks...


You nailed it @ the bolded. And that includes ASUU too. If you want Nigeria to tour the Egyptian route, then you do not mean well for this country. You are just supporting anarchy and murder. The average Nigerian is wiser and more temperate then the Arab dogs that do not have value for human life.


texazzpete:
The strike has always been mainly about the 2009 agreement. The earned allowances are also part of the 2009 agreement.
I wish you would take time to listen to yourself. You insinuate that ASUU is mischievously bringing up the 2009 agreement because they 'know that the FG cannot fully implement it'. Are you saying that ASUU held a gun to the heads of the FG negotiation team back in 2009? Are you aware that GEJ was a part and parcel of that agreement? When you sign an agreement, you stand by it.

I wonder if you can tell your local bank that you will not honor your loan repayments that you signed because 'they know fully well you cannot implement it'. cheesy

Comments like this show that most Nigerians need to understand the rudiments of economics. We are talking of a government which is finding it hard at this very moment to pay allocations to states. Do you think Nigeria has unlimited supply of funds in her coffers? ASUU strike and demands is bad timing for the government. Have you ever thought of the implication on governance if the said agreement is fully implemented by FG? To think that ASUU represents the education sector is a mistake. ASUU does not even represent the whole university sub-sector. What happens when NASU, SSANU, NAAT etc decides to take a clue from ASUU and strike indefinitely Think wisely please.....



texazzpete:
I'm going to put most of the blame on the FG, sorry to burst your bubble. The best of lecturers will be hamstrung by substandard equipment. Years of FG neglect has led to the inability of the Universities to attract/retain the best brains.

Of course there are some lecturers that are plain bad. Some are mediocre. Some have absolutely no business lecturing. But it is irresponsible to stereotype all lecturers as lazy, corrupt, perverted deviants. I see some students on Nairaland doing this and posting anecdotal evidence as support. This, of course, is as brainless as claiming that all students are cultists and killers because we all know some students that are cultists.

You made sense only in the second paragraph.
Expensive and state-of-art equipment are only useful in engineering and the sciences. These account for about 30 to 35% of student populace.
If that is only issue, where then are we not seeing exceptional brilliance in other fields?? Or do you need machines or labs to study English Language, Law, Arts My point is, ASUU dubiously excluded itself from the decay.


texazzpete:
Well, good for you, but I am not a student. In fact, I graduated about 10 years ago. This is why I can see the folly in your 'Rome was not built in a day' mantra. They were saying that in my days. If ASUU does not fight, they will be saying the same thing in your Children's time too.
Let me ask you: If ASUU does not fight, who will? NANS? cheesy
Let me tell you who will fight. Nobody. You'll all manage it and smile and graduate and go for NYSC and the next set will come to take their place in the decrepit universities.

ASUU 'co-operated with the FG' for 3 years by engaging in dialogue, hoping for implementation of the 2009 agreement. What did they gain? What did they gain?


What are they gaining now?? what are they gaining now Answer. Of course, they are about to get sacked. I know about 70% of lecturers will resume though.



texazzpete:
Again you show a critical lack of understanding that is unbecoming of an Undergraduate. 'Selfish course'? The 200b per year they've won from the FG as a minimum, is that going into ASUU coffers? Moneis distributed to Universities for CAPITAL PROJECTS are dispensed by the VC/Bursar with oversight from the Senate. Last I checked, the VC and Bursar aren't ASUU members.
Can you tell me how going on strike is 'destabilizing the already fragile nation'? You sound like someone reading from the FG/PDP manual cheesy

A delay of 6 months will unfortunately delay one set of students, but it is not a crippling setback. Failure to improve our Universities will see Nigeria doomed to being a second class Nation. Fixing our Universities will bring a drastic improvement in the lives of many more sets of students to come.

With due respect, meditate on your post and answer the question yourself. How is the the strike destabilizing the already fragile nation? Maybe, until you see people with guns you will understand.



texazzpete:
I agree! The unholy Union of the FG, NANS and the horde of brainless students out there must be made to understand that the status quo they are so desperate to maintain will see Nigeria further slip down the dark path of failure!

Progress is best achieved by evolution and not by revolution. Once again, I support FG.
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by symbianDON(m): 2:34pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete you are the man!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by tunex23: 3:11pm On Dec 02, 2013
@ Texazzpete, pls you should stop exchanging comment wit dat guy. He doesn't know anything yet, he is still a learner!!!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by howfarwhatagwan: 3:27pm On Dec 02, 2013
Na wow oh Nigeria I hail oh at the rate we are going our graduates will not be employable or even if they are the knowledge gap will be overwhelming. Just sat through a two hour class listening to some of the research work going on in development of prebiotics to prevent obesity, cancer and diabetes and I kept wondering when will my beloved country get to this stage at this rate maybe never.

Okupe Chief adviser or wetin be your position sef you should be ashamed of yourself for what you are saying you and your oga signed up to do a job and you are failing so badly that now you have turned to emotional blackmail. Anyway it is not your fault I blame us Nigerian citizens who have refused to unite and demand results from you and your team or even boot you all out of office.
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Olril18(m): 3:44pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete:

Yet another indication that the vast majority of Nigerians are gutless and cowardly.




No. ASUU was 'sabotaged and hijacked' when they would go on strike and resume lectures on the basis of empty promises with nothing signed on paper. Now, they are finally fighting for the right thing. It takes a mentally inept fellow to insinuate that the strike is 'political' or has been 'hijacked'.



It was a national disaster more than a decade ago when our universities started churning out unemployable graduates, when lecture halls had the shoddiest of equipment available, when the conditions of service of lecturers was so poor that only the poorest graduates wanted to stay back to lecture.



I don't get you...is it that you do not truly appreciate how terrible our Universities are now? Is it that you do not see how DESPERATELY our tertiary institutions needs revamping...our labs, hostels, lecture halls etc? Is it that you are blind to see that only a small fraction of the truly gifted graduates stay back to teach others and pass on their knowledge as lecturers?

Well, some of us aren't as blind as you are...and we see that truly, desperate times require desperate measures. Kudos to ASUU!




This is exactly what makes the FG happy. One ignorant fellow supporting an FEC that has ZERO of their nuclear family members studying in a Federal University. All their kids enjoy top-of-the line University education. It must tickle them pink when students in Federal Universities that make do with labs with defunct equipment are 'supporting them'.

You poor, naive fellow.
foolish ASUU member,so wat are u trying to prove,dat even if ASUU are fighting for wat is right(according to themselves),that students,should be kept away for six months..common dts a joke....u failed to also answer why universities are now pulling out...doesnt.dat means something is going inside ASUU,dat d public can't understand?..
and finally conduct an opinion poll,ASUU has lost all public sympathy,not because people belive they are selfish like we students do,but because they have pushed their demands to d extreme....
you old fool!!!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by jpphilips(m): 4:13pm On Dec 02, 2013
What will it take the FG to bring in Indian and Chinese experienced lecturers? The FG is just being silly, Indian and Chinese HOD's and VC's will place this country on the path of technological development.
We don't really need the ASUU to drive Education forward in this country.
By the way, Singapore and Malaysian professors are pretty good, that way, sorting will end.
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by bisi16(m): 4:17pm On Dec 02, 2013
game_rod:

Sometimes I wonder what is the brain of people like you. You are just plain insensitive and a rabble rouser. Is that the only comment you could make on the whole issue. Na wa o. Some of you need to be in a mental asylum, honestly.
It is pple like u dat never progress. Have u ever heard Obama mention God in state matters? U dnt need God 2come down and solve ur state problms 4u wen u hav d power. Anyways, u're just as lame as ur daft jonathan. Retarden odemugu!
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by jpphilips(m): 4:17pm On Dec 02, 2013
Goddex:

[size=16pt]Bros, this is the dumbasss situation we find ourselves in this country. Even the APC media and their e-rats here on nairaland opening their stinking mouths did everything to justify the action of Fashola when he sacked Lagos doctors for striking. All of them now suddenly support ASUU because they see it as an opportunity to run down the federal govt. And we expect Nigeria to progress with these tribal, religious, ethnic, political sentiments beclouding our sense of reasoning?[/size]


The same guys who demonized Buhari in 2011 are the same people trying to rebrand him simply because he has cross carpeted, Tinubu really think we are m0r0ns.
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by jpphilips(m): 5:04pm On Dec 02, 2013
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Never you classify Nigerians as such. In a time where you hear of MEND, NPDVF, Ombatse, Boko Haram etc, taking arms and fighting the government hands down for however frivolous their reasons may be. This is hardly the hallmarks of a gutless and cowardly people.

you seriously believed those clandestine miscreants were actually the people? you think it was a people versus Gov agitation? bros, wake up, those movements were mere political movements, they were Govt fighting the Govt.
The Niger delta Agitation had a people's face in the era of Saro wiwa, the groups you mentioned up there were a mere subset of the Govt itself.
Nigerians are gutless nannies to say the least.




It takes the wise to know that ASUU have been shifting the goal post when the game is on ever since. First, it was earned allowances. In fact, that was the main reason the wise was declared. Consult July 1st 2013 newspapers for reference. Since, that didn't hold much sway, to gather sympathy, the issue of 2009 agreement and full implementation was brought on board, knowing fully well that FG cannot fully implement it. After much tussles, the president met with ASUU and new proposals came. Next, the unfortunate death of Prof Iyayi. ASUU blamed FG and says it will not call off strike until he is fully buried. However childish it may sound but this caused a real row in ASUU circles. In further to stall and sabotage the efforts, new demands on the president signature and co was brought up when a representative of the FG has signed the document. The most annoying of all, demanding that salaries must be paid and immediate disbursal of some billions.


This shouldn't be a problem for a sane Govt, Local content law says 70:30, so the FG can still get 30% foreigners to fill the position of recalcitrant sorting infested lecturers.
University of Ibadan was at its best when the VC was a foreigner, why cant history repeat itself? These present crop of lecturers have proved countless they have nothing to offer the dynamics of the Nigerian realistic stage, however unpleasant and job cuts , a lot of indirect jobs will be created from the rigorous research exercises of this foreigners.

We don't need Nigerian VC's, Nigerain Deans of faculties or even Nigerian HOD's, they should be neutral academicians all over the globe who will place our comatose institutions on a path of glory, technology wise, philosophy and humanities.

the likes of Okonjo iweala who unfortunately happens to be one of the best this administration has to offer had only her Basic education here, she was not taught by our sorting lecturers in higher studies.





Just one question, if graduates are unemployable and as it is popularly said "half-baked". Who are the chefs?




I see those things and I am a student too. But Rome wasn't built in a day, it is a gradual process. Come to think of it, ASUU played a great role in the decay via strikes and non-performance. Know the real enemy.
ASUU should cooperate with FG in tackling this mess and not arm-twisting the government.


Pre independence when the University of Ibadan was still university college Ibadan, were there complaints of half baked graduates? so why do you have it now? the same sorting, striking lecturers destroyed the foundation of these institutions.
I reiterate that our Universities need a state of emergency (thanks to ASUU who brought it to the notice of the FG), the FG should at managerial level replace the ASUU lords with foreigners, to chart a new course for our institutions.




It also makes ASUU happy to know the very students whose feelings were not considered when decisions that have a strong effect on their future negatively is made is supporting them on their selfish course and mission to dis-stabilize the already fragile nation.


Thanks, but the country comes first before any union.

which students? semi touts and near tabularasers? do you think that any Nigerian Student fully realizes the enormity of what ASUU is doing with their future? if they had the least inkling, most of them would have taken laws into their hands or agitate at the very least, but as usual, ignorance rules in all facet of the Nigerian space.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Johnsinia(m): 5:19pm On Dec 02, 2013
Are u a lecturer here or ur mama n papa are or maybe ur uncles, aunties or relations are? Are u still doubting Dec 4th? I sorri 4 u. Ok! Maybe, u r still wonderin hw possibl it will be since the military try it n fail. Or maybe u r one of those dat believe d president is soft n clueless. Or maybe u ve high confident dat d FG cant replace a lecturer or prof as u or maybe u r still decieving urself dat the FG cant get dat much needed lecturers or prof if they sack. O, u r still here enjoying e-backup frm the bittered and aggrieved oppositn party and u r adamant frm resuming Dec 4th. I pity u bc come Dec 4th, e go be like India film 4 ur eyes. U betta resume nw or latest 4th Dec bc there wont be mercy 4 u, neither will there be a 2nd chance. As it was in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the days of naoh, where people were stuborn and did nt believe, so shall it be on Dec 4th. E go be like India film 4 ur eyes.

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Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by texazzpete(m): 5:24pm On Dec 02, 2013
Olril18:
foolish ASUU member,so wat are u trying to prove,dat even if ASUU are fighting for wat is right(according to themselves),that students,should be kept away for six months..common dts a joke....u failed to also answer why universities are now pulling out...doesnt.dat means something is going inside ASUU,dat d public can't understand?..
and finally conduct an opinion poll,ASUU has lost all public sympathy,not because people belive they are selfish like we students do,but because they have pushed their demands to d extreme....

1. I'm not an ASUU member, and I most likely never will lecture. (unless after I retire I decide to give something back)

2. I don't care about public opinion polls. It lines up perfectly with my summation of the vast majority of Nigerians a 'gutless cowards'. I have lived through tons of NLC strikes over minimum wage, fuel price increase etc. Public opinion ALWAYS swings against strike continuation after just a few days. Look, the FG can make fuel N200 per litre tomorrow and within 2 weeks, people like you will start begging NLC to call off the strike. Happens every time.

Some of us support ASUU in this matter because we have functional brains, and because we love our country. If it means some of you have to sit at home for 6 months so that the Universities will see some improvement, I'm all for it.

Olril18:
you old fool!!!

I'm flattered! I had thought you only reserved this greeting for your close family members cheesy
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by texazzpete(m): 5:30pm On Dec 02, 2013
Johnsinia: Are u a lecturer here or ur mama n papa are or maybe ur uncles, aunties or relations are? Are u still doubting Dec 4th? I sorri 4 u. Ok! Maybe, u r still wonderin hw possibl it will be since the military try it n fail. Or maybe u r one of those dat believe d president is soft n clueless. Or maybe u ve high confident dat d FG cant replace a lecturer or prof as u or maybe u r still decieving urself dat the FG cant get dat much needed lecturers or prof if they sack. O, u r still here enjoying e-backup frm the bittered and aggrieved oppositn party and u r adamant frm resuming Dec 4th. I pity u bc come Dec 4th, e go be like India film 4 ur eyes. U betta resume nw or latest 4th Dec bc there wont be mercy 4 u, neither will there be a 2nd chance. As it was in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the days of naoh, where people were stuborn and did nt believe, so shall it be on Dec 4th. E go be like India film 4 ur eyes.

You know, I keep hearing you students spout this inane logic and it's always hilarious.

Tell me, you're complaining about the academic institutions remaining shut and disruption to your academic calendar. Do you (in your wildest dreams!) think replacing thousands of experienced lecturers overnight is an easy task? Or a task that can be completed in months? You think it's as easy as putting an advert in Wednesday Guardian and employing the first 1000 graduates that show up?

This was the same brainless idea Tinubu had about sacking over 1000 doctors and replacing them. Eventually the scales fell from his eyes and Fashola went suing for peace.

People are worried stiff about securing long term replacements for some of the brilliant lecturers we have and you're thinking about replacing them en-masse cheesy
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by Olril18(m): 5:38pm On Dec 02, 2013
texazzpete:

1. I'm not an ASUU member, and I most likely never will lecture. (unless after I retire I decide to give something back)

2. I don't care about public opinion polls. It lines up perfectly with my summation of the vast majority of Nigerians a 'gutless cowards'. I have lived through tons of NLC strikes over minimum wage, fuel price increase etc. Public opinion ALWAYS swings against strike continuation after just a few days. Look, the FG can make fuel N200 per litre tomorrow and within 2 weeks, people like you will start begging NLC to call off the strike. Happens every time.

Some of us support ASUU in this matter because we have functional brains, and because we love our country. If it means some of you have to sit at home for 6 months so that the Universities will see some improvement, I'm all for it.



I'm flattered! I had thought you only reserved this
greeting for your close family members cheesy
Re: ASUU Is Reckless, Irresponsible, Lawless, And Lacks Fear Of God” – Presidency by toyinjimoh(m): 5:55pm On Dec 02, 2013
Okupe does nt know what he is saying, meet ASUU demands and they will call off strike and stop rubbish u re saying

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