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Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 8:29pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
ujoinme:My first Question is have you ever visited Onitsha? How did you know that the National dual express road ways I mentioned are not wide enough for containers Second question is did you read my post. Did you hear the words ship to ship transfers? Third Question what in the world is the connection between a cargo airport and a shipping port, one can do without the order. Do a proper study before making your conclusions. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by plaindealer: 8:32pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
lastpage: They are big on emotions and dangerously short on common sense ... 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by ujoinme: 8:34pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
KenGali:. If you cant see the connection btw the bolded with regards to an inland port, then its needless having this conversation with you. The cost of setting up an STS is akin to the cost of a deep seaport and the nigerian customs/port authority will not build anything that is not under their jurisdiction since they will not be able to tax it/regulate its activity. And for your information i am rooting for the onitsha port to work and all the other port in the country to be functional for that's the key for an economic growth in the country. But i am realistic with the situations on ground.Bye 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by burberry89(m): 8:40pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
phantom: and how many people exactly do you think can afford the original goods? If you think 'made in taiwan' goods are imported by igbos because they enjoy importing such, then, no offence you are ignorant. Hmmmm, my frnd av u forgotten that wat made pple buy the cheaper products is because ur IGBO brothers has made pple loose their trust in paying big for original product by flooding the market wit made in taiwan which is a replica of the original product. So pple nw say all na Taiwan cos it difficult to identify the orignal product. If nigerians cnt afford the original product y are we still having LG shops, thermocool shops stores dat sell the original product in town |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by superstar1(m): 8:42pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
KenGali: Guys, You are the only sensible Igbo on NL I have respect for, because of your thought pattern, presentation of your thoughts and how logical factual and realistic you have always been. You are highly cerebral. All those other ones that just argue for tribal and sentimental argument sake are the ones that make SE the laughing stock of the country. Once again, RESPECT. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by burberry89(m): 8:49pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
mystical10: apart from lagos tht developd by nigerians tell me other states in yoruba land thats developd than states in SE.yorubas dn travel, they can stay over 30 40yrs in SW witout trvlin to other parts even overseas.traveling is part of education. Tx to nysc if nt sm yorubas mght nt knw state called kastina. You see that's wat we r saying that's why most of ur states in SE is having just the sate capital and one big town to show and others are villages wit no good roads cos the ones who are supposed to develop ur states av traveled to SW north or abroad. We yoruba dnt just travel. That's y u will an IGBO man wit his wife n children leaving his state and coming to one village in ur so called undeveloped SW to become a palm wine tapper or a laborer. Or av u seen a yoruba man leaving osun, oyo, ogun or ekiti to go n do abaro(laborer) in any part of the country? |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by fkaz(m): 9:09pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
KenGali: I know most ibo import through lagos from atlantic ocean and onitsha importers has to load it into barges for onward delivery to ontsha port, but it has to go through koko port in benin and lokoja port before getting to onitsha. So if those two port are not functioning how will onitsha port function? Also how would you supply the north-east you claim onitsha market do supply, if baro port in niger state is not function. All this port are link together through the plan of FG and onitsha port can't be single out. I think, one thing standing against those river port is the maintenance of the river channel, which FG can never sustain, so i see onitsha port as a mirage. I stand to be corrected sha. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by russellino: 9:14pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
burberry89: You need to travel out of the SW for once 3 Likes |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by MrEverest(m): 9:36pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: Ngozi please ignore that buffoon, its obvious he is trying to distract us from finding a panacea to the present idle Onitsha port, already they are scared of that. Kudos to kengali et al with their informed research. We Igbos have never lacked intellectuals and Onitsha port must be put to optimal use! 2 Likes |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by MrEverest(m): 9:46pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
fkaz: This part alone renders your article useless, please pick up an atlas and know where Lokoja port is located viz a viz Onitsha port, until you do that please don't comment again, thank you! 4 Likes |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 6:58am On Dec 09, 2013 |
KenGali: Guys, I have just 2 questions for you 1: which port would the Bill of Laden read as the arrival port? 2: which Custom area will assess for duty and do collection for duty...pls take into account the rivalry and competition for revenue among the customs areas. 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by fkaz(m): 7:09am On Dec 09, 2013 |
Mr Everest: Which atlas, it's your brother who said onitsha port will server middle-belt and north-east with their market. I don't know how onitsha port will function if all the river channel on these axis are not dredge properly. I just hope FG is sincere with that project, because those river channel needs another dredging after last year flooding. That is why i say onitsha port will remain a mirage. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 8:45am On Dec 09, 2013 |
burberry89:after d hausas, na yorubas dey do odd jobs pass in other parts of d country. beggars, agberos, taxi drivers on point |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 8:48am On Dec 09, 2013 |
Mr Everest: e get nothing bad belle no go cause for some ppl I swear |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by bayulll01(m): 9:04am On Dec 09, 2013 |
No hate like seriously I pray you ibos achieve ur dream so that u can leave us alone,the same tinx was said when u guys got the license for anambra inter airport,and at that maad man ranting yorubas don't travel,so as a yoruba man I should leave my state that is crime free,good and manageable road and port to ebonyi or enugu where I will be kidnap and probably I will be rob,the yorubas will travel to uk,canada us cos those places are better than their region,ok why did u pple travel to SW state when u claim the place is not develop?hatters will continue to hate,I pray nija divide peacefully and see what will becomes of u pple |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by revolt(m): 9:33am On Dec 09, 2013 |
bayulll01: No hate like seriously I pray you ibos achieve ur dream so that u can leave us alone,the same tinx was said when u guys got the license for anambra inter airport,and at that maad man ranting yorubas don't travel,so as a yoruba man I should leave my state that is crime free,good and manageable road and port to ebonyi or enugu where I will be kidnap and probably I will be rob,the yorubas will travel to uk,canada us cos those places are better than their region,ok why did u pple travel to SW state when u claim the place is not develop?hatters will continue to hate,I pray nija divide peacefully and see what will becomes of u pplesearch deeply and be sincere to yourself, do you really think that in the event of a Nigeria's disintegration, an Igbo enclave would be retrogressive? dont fool yourself |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by mandarin: 11:06am On Dec 09, 2013 |
chino11: The importers want to receive their foreign goods direct in Onitsha. I support this effort if the port can be made to work and not just this onealone but also Ibaka I have heard so muh about but seen nothing happen and also Warri port, and ports at Igbokoda and Epe as well as Ogun waterside. Lagos will continue to grow irrespective of what happens because factors that determine economic performance favors the city but Nigeria needs a second economic city quick while intra city train should quickly be put in place in LAGOS TO MAKE LIFE BETTER. I think a city like Warri should be worked on to perform. Naija, haa, it is well. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by mandarin: 11:11am On Dec 09, 2013 |
kettykin: The reason for success of Onitsha, Ibaka, delta and Onne are as follows Consumers of imported goods determine where importers will chose to ply his trade and Lagos account for the bulk of middle class consumers in Nigeria. I believe a delibrate government policy can change some things but I look down south at Ibaka if its real ) as the alternative but with Lekki in the offing, Lagos may keep being the real deal for some decades. Onitsha is a seaport and thee is limit to what it can accommodate, economy doesn't work that way, demands determine a whole lots. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 12:13pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Let me answer you just for completeness. Ship to Ship transfers is already a common practice in the shipping industry. Only that it is more popular with liquids and powders. But can be applied to containers as well. The Bill used by customs is that of the mother vessel. The idea of international gazette which am sure you read of in the original article is actually all about designating a customs authority for the port. Hope your questions are answered. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 12:17pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
mandarin:Wrong, Lagos does not account for the bulk of middle class consumers, its population is less than 20 million out of the 150 million. Lagos acts as the transit point for goods reaching the distributed consumers. That goods originate from Lagos does not mean they are consumed in Lagos. The whole idea of Onitsha port is to carve out a portion of those consumers that Lagos currently serves. Which is not a bad idea seeing how congested Lagos is. 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by rafindo(m): 12:28pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
asha 80: have you forgotten a bridge is supposed to pass east west road that crosses the river niger around bayelsa axis that is if a bridge has not already being built?even if it has not being built how high are they going to raise it to accomodate large ocean liners?.dat is the problem i hav with investnow.he makes all his assumption with online feelers.investnow try and make ur research tight proof before selling ur ignorance on platter of overzealousness.their is a brigde connecting the east-west at the patani-mbiama axis of road.the solution is simple |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 12:35pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
KenGali: You see...that is the contradiction there. For practical purposes, let's illustrate this with a hypothesis. Supposing Maersk or Safmarine (with port of origin stating US) has issued Bill oF Lading (BL) to read Apapa Ports as Port of Discharge, the RAR (now PAAR) can only be issued for Apapa Ports area for duty assessment. A custom area outside Apapa ports cannot assess for duty.....so how would Onitsha port Customs area comes in? Right from the PFI (PROFORMA INVOICE) to the final shipping documents...the port of discharge must be stated on all documents. Honestly I still don't know how the STS can work without serious implications. 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 12:45pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
ilugunboy:Trust that STS happens all the time, it is not new. If Onitsha gets the international Gazzette, the bills will read Onitsha Port, since the port will have its own designated customs authority. [size=16pt]A bit of Derailment [/size] Did anyone know that the 2008 Nobel Prize for Literature Winner J. M. G. Le Clézio wrote a novel called [size=16pt]"Onitsha"[/size] Which was based on his childhood life joining his father with his mother at the Colonial Out post in Onitsha. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/887405.Onitsha It will make a good read for those who like reading. You can get a PDF copy from scribed, follow the link below# http://www.scribd.com/doc/26592025/Le-Clezio-J-M-G-Onitsha Sorry guys the copy is not in English, still searching for an English copy. The reviews for the books seem fantastic. It might also be interesting to you to know that quite a lot of shipping went on along the River Niger in the 1950s and 1960s. For one you can follow the trails of this shipping boat called "Onitsha" obviously named after the real Onitsha. http://www.rhiw.com/y_mor/morwyr_llyn/onitsha/onitsha.htm http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=3095 |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Nobody: 12:55pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
KenGali: I hope and pray it comes to fruition, but really at the risk of sounding pessimistic, it will be more expensive. Who bears the cost of transhipment from Ship to Ship? The importer? |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Malawian(m): 1:24pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
honestly this is the first time i am seeing those barges in action. i had always wondered how ships can berth at that river port and then turn around especially with the port situated after the head bridge. honestly, i now believe the project is feasible. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Malawian(m): 1:30pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
ilugunboy: ode. because she is APC like you, she is now "consistent" ? see your oily face like c0nd0m |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by asha80(m): 1:41pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Malawian: honestly this is the first time i am seeing those barges in action. i had always wondered how ships can berth at that river port and then turn around especially with the port situated after the head bridge.seeing them in action?when did you see it? |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by RareDiamond: 2:26pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
ilugunboy: PLEASE KEEP YOUR PESSIMISM TO YOURSELF. ONITSHA AND OGUTA PORTS WOULD WORK OUT FINE AND PROFITABLY BY GOD'S GRACE. SO DON'T WORRY YOURSELF ABOUT US, YOU CAN'T LOVE US MORE THAN OURSELVES !!!! @ KENGALI; ONITSHA AND OGUTA PORTS HAVE BOTH NAVAL AND CUSTOMS BASES WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES TO BOTH PORTS. CRUDE OIL IS TRANSPORTED BY BIG BARGES FROM OGUTA THROUGH THE ADJOINING RIVERS TO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN WHERE THEY ARE TRANSFERRED TO BIG TANKER VESSELS. JULIUS BERGER MOVED THEIR HEAVY EQUIPMENTS VIA THE RIVER NIGER TO ONITSHA PORT WHERE THEY HAVE COMMENCED THEIR SURVEY AND PRE-MOBILISATION ACTIVITIES IN PREPARATION FOR THE 2ND NIGER BRIDGE. I SEE NO LOGICAL REASON FOR OGUTA AND ONITSHA PORT NOT TO WORK PROFITABLY BECAUSE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF BARGES & VESSELS THAT BERTH IN LAGOS ARE TRANS-SHIPPED FROM FERNANDO PO EQUATORIAL GUINEA, GHANA AND BENIN REPUBLIC. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT ANAMBRA SHIPPING ASSOCIATION IS EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT ? THE IMO STATE GOVERNMENT HAVE COMMENCED CONSTRUCTION OF AN INTERNATIONAL MARITIME UNIVERSITY IN OGUTA. KINDLY IGNORE PEOPLE WHO WANTS APC TO WIN SE BUT DON'T WANT SE TO DEVELOP, THAT IS WHY THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO FAIL WOEFULLY IN NIGERIA 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by oneeast1: 2:32pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Kengali is among the finest brains we have on NL.. Am already dubbing your feasibility analysis on the Onitsha Port for onward transmission.. The fact is that GEJ will make Onitsha Port international designation but whether now on in next tenure is what I don't know. I have overheard it muted in the Ministry of Transport. 1 Like |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Malawian(m): 2:56pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
EMMAUGOH: so truth i can attestify to that ..the transformer in my street in nnewi was bought by individuals not fediral govermenti everything that has to do with rural electrification, including tarring of all our village roads were done by the town union. my town is oraukwu in anambra state. |
Re: Importers Urge FG To Make Onitsha Port Cargo Destination by Malawian(m): 2:58pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
asha 80: seeing them in action?when did you see it? what i meant was seeing how barges work as depicted on the attached pictures by one of the posters. |
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